Non-Gaming, Home multimedia PC for Rs 20k w/o monitor

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Hi Friends

Please suggest me a non-gaming home multimedia PC with some extra computing power around Rs 20,000 without monitor as I have already decided for AOC i2369vm (Rs 12K) monitor and I'll spend another 20k for other components. Please suggest a configuration which is really value-for-money and getting max out of it.

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Watching FullHD, 1080p blueray quality movies,video encoding to convert my raw dSLR videos to MP4 format (HandBreak), some image editing (GIMP), development (Eclipse IDE)

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: Rs 20,000/- without monitor

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: No, Do not want to experiment and happy with stock speed

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Windows7 and Linux Mint

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: 1TB

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: No,Rs 20k does not include monitor as I have decided for AOC i2369vm for Rs 12k separately

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: I have APC UPS, Creative 2.1 speakers

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: Within 1 week

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: No, I ve not done the experiment as its a free service offered to me earlier

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Hyderabad, yes open to buy online IFF not available in city

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: Please suggest a value-for-money NON-GAMING home entertainment PC with extra computing power for some video encoding and development work

Core i3 - Rs 7200
Gigabyte B75- Rs 4400
Corsair Value Select 4 GB - Rs 2350
Seagate Barracuda 1TB - 4200
Antec NSK4400 - Rs 1350
Antec VP300P - Rs 1800

The other better option is the FX6300 but then with a good stable M5A97 you would have to add a GPU and that would increase the cost by Rs3K over all.

fx 6300- 7.3k
gigabyte ga -78lmt usb3 - 4k
kingston hyper X blue 4gb 1600 mhz - 2.6k
wd blue 1 tb - 4k
asus odd - 1k
antec bp300p - 1.8k
local cabby - 0.7k
logitech k/b and mouse - 0.7k
this is the minimum you should get. handbrake is a fully multithreaded application where an fx 6300 will shine.

EDIT:
one question
why do you want to go fo AOC i2369vm? any specific reasons?

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The Incinerator said:
Core i3 - Rs 7200
Gigabyte B75- Rs 4400
Corsair Value Select 4 GB - Rs 2350
Seagate Barracuda 1TB - 4200
Antec NSK4400 - Rs 1350
Antec VP300P - Rs 1800

The other better option is the FX6300 but then with a good stable M5A97 you would have to add a GPU and that would increase the cost by Rs3K over all.

Thank you for your suggestion.
But when you say i3 its really confuse me, can you please be specific which i3. either 3rd gen or 4th gen and then which model, etc.
Same for MB. Gigabyte B75 chipset has atleast 3-4 models, which model you are referring to ?

I'm ready for AMD solution and little inclined towards fx6300, but really AMD makes it really confusing for a buyer to get a compatible board and GPU. Can you plz suggest a good standard (no highend) MB for it. Also as I DONOT GAME on PC, please also suggest a simple GPU for it.

Could you please confirm if Antec VP300p can load the AMD config with an addition PCI card ?

rijinpk1 said:
EDIT:
one question
why do you want to go fo AOC i2369vm? any specific reasons?

Yes, I wanted a 23-24" AH-IPS ONLY monitor with better color accuracy having a HDMI port. And after some online research I have zeroed on it with the help of www.pcmonitors.info, www.tftcentral.com and www.prad.de

Do you know any other better model than this within this price range ?

The Incinerator said:
Core i3 - Rs 7200
Gigabyte B75- Rs 4400
Corsair Value Select 4 GB - Rs 2350
Seagate Barracuda 1TB - 4200
Antec NSK4400 - Rs 1350
Antec VP300P - Rs 1800

The other better option is the FX6300 but then with a good stable M5A97 you would have to add a GPU and that would increase the cost by Rs3K over all.

> You should have specified which i3 you are referring to.

> I think the ram you are referring to is a 1333 MHz one. One can inverts 200 more for a 1600 MHz ram.

Some modifications (and specifications) to The Incinerator's config:

i3 3220 (7200)
Gigabyte B75M DH3 (4500)
Kingston HyperX Blu 1600 MHz 4 GB (2500)
WD Blue 1 TB (4200)
Antec VP450P (2600)
local cabinet (1000)

total: ~21k

i think this monitor is ah-ips Compare before you buy - LG 22 22EA53VQ LED Monitor Price in India | Compare LG 22EA53VQ Prices,Reviews & Ratings - Junglee.com

fx 6300 will be a better option than a core i3 3220

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rijinpk1 said:
i think this monitor is ah-ips Compare before you buy - LG 22 22EA53VQ LED Monitor Price in India | Compare LG 22EA53VQ Prices,Reviews & Ratings - Junglee.com

fx 6300 will be a better option than a core i3 3220

As per PC Monitors - Expert Advice on Computer Monitors even though LG makes the AH-IPS panel and used in all LG, AOC, Dell; LG lacks in other aspects of the monitor and even though other manufacturers use LG panel they shine against LG !!! Sounds awkward ? Google it in detail.

The complete review is here *pcmonitors.info/reviews/aoc-i2369vm

Look no where, just buy that AOC display its great with impressive accuracy across the band.

Secondly dont buy a cheap Rs 1000 local cabinet just spend Rs 350 more and get the Antec. Its a no brainer.
With the AMD FX 6300 and a entry level GPU like GT210 for Rs1850 and a couple of PCI cards you dont need more than a 300 watter. In full force you wont cross 245 watts! And that Antec has headroom of 50 watts more.So you are safe.But if you have upgrades in mind like better GPU then get the Antec VP450P.

@ Harshil any pointer where we can find the Kingston Hyper Blue 4GB for Rs 2500?

And the Antec VP450P for Rs 2600?

The Incinerator said:
Look no where, just buy that AOC display its great with impressive accuracy across the band.

Secondly dont buy a cheap Rs 1000 local cabinet just spend Rs 350 more and get the Antec. Its a no brainer.
With the AMD FX 6300 and a entry level GPU like GT210 for Rs1850 and a couple of PCI cards you dont need more than a 300 watter. In full force you wont cross 245 watts! And that Antec has headroom of 50 watts more.So you are safe.But if you have upgrades in mind like better GPU then get the Antec VP450P.

@ Harshil any pointer where we can find the Kingston Hyper Blue 4GB for Rs 2500?

And the Antec VP450P for Rs 2600?

Here: Kingston HyperX Blu DDR3 4 GB PC RAM (KHX1600C9D3B1/4G) - Kingston: Flipkart.com

Its 2538 to be exact.

Torlling

Unbelievable price and that too at Flipkart!

The Incinerator said:
Unbelievable price and that too at Flipkart!

RAM is always cheapest at FK. Even the local prices are higher than FK when it comes to RAM.

It was at onetime.....then the FK guys did increase the price in between ,now back to square one...good.

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The Incinerator said:
Look no where, just buy that AOC display its great with impressive accuracy across the band.

Secondly dont buy a cheap Rs 1000 local cabinet just spend Rs 350 more and get the Antec. Its a no brainer.
With the AMD FX 6300 and a entry level GPU like GT210 for Rs1850 and a couple of PCI cards you dont need more than a 300 watter. In full force you wont cross 245 watts! And that Antec has headroom of 50 watts more.So you are safe.But if you have upgrades in mind like better GPU then get the Antec VP450P.

@ Harshil any pointer where we can find the Kingston Hyper Blue 4GB for Rs 2500?

And the Antec VP450P for Rs 2600?

For AMD fx6300, could you please suggest me a standard (not highend) compatible MB and a basic graphics card with the model name ?

URPradhan said:
For AMD fx6300, could you please suggest me a standard (not highend) compatible MB and a basic graphics card with the model name ?

Gigabyte 970A-DS3 @5.5K

zotac gt 210 @ 1.8k

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ASHISH65 said:
Gigabyte 970A-DS3 @5.5K

zotac gt 210 @ 1.8k

Thank you ASHISH, but do not you think 5.5k for a MB is too high? Or Is it the basic minimum price for a fx6300 compatible standard MB?

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^It is always better to buy good motherboard.

URPradhan said:
Thank you ASHISH, but do not you think 5.5k for a MB is too high? Or Is it the basic minimum price for a fx6300 compatible standard MB?

gigabyte ga -78lmt usb3 - 4k is supported. also it has igpu unlike Gigabyte 970A-DS3. but anyway, you should go with 970 chipset based mobo as it has better stability and is fully compatible with fx series cpus.

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URPradhan said:
The complete review is here AOC i2369Vm Review - PC Monitors

Hi,
Is this monitor (AOC i2369vm) available in the market? I am NOT able to find one in Hyderabad. Please let me know if anyone knows AOC dealer details or online link to buy this monitor.

Thanks
bprithvi

Get it online from Prime abgb or It Depot Or It Wares etc etc

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The Incinerator said:
Get it online from Prime abgb or It Depot Or It Wares etc etc

Its not available in ANY online store, at least I could not find it.

Now here is the good news that, TODAY I got my monitor from Hyderabad after waiting for so long and making constant followup with the AOC distributor here in Hyderabad.

I've come from a 17" LG CRT and the first thing came to me is WOH!!!!
It's really amazing to see the monitor in action with ultra bright IPS panel with superb viewing angle. Note that I have bought only the monitor today and will buy the PC next week and I have attached the monitor to my laptop DP (Display Port).

AOC has given each every cable of your choice to connect.
1. VGA cable
2. HDMI cable
3. HDMI/MHL cable
4. Display Port cable
5. An 3.5 audio jack
6. the driver CD

So, no need to hunt for cable

I'll do a review of it and will update.

NOTE: If you want the dealer/distributor/retailer numbers plz PM me as I do not any ones mobile number.

harshilsharma63 said:
Here: Kingston HyperX Blu DDR3 4 GB PC RAM (KHX1600C9D3B1/4G) - Kingston: Flipkart.com

Its 2538 to be exact.

1. Is this 1.65v RAM is better than 1.5v Corsair Vengeance ?
2. Socket 1155 supports 1.5v RAM and will it work on Gigabyte B75md3h ?

URPradhan said:
Its not available in ANY online store, at least I could not find it.

Now here is the good news that, TODAY I got my dream monitor from Hyderabad after waiting for so long and making constant followup with the AOC distributor here in Hyderabad.

I've come from a 17" LG CRT and the first thing came to me is WOH!!!!
Its really amazing to see the monitor in action with ultra bright IPS panel with superb viewing angle. Noet that I have just bought only the monitor today and will the PC next week and I have attached the monitor to my laptop DP (Display Port).

AOC has given each every cable of your choice to connect.
1. VGA cable
2. HDMI cable
3. HDMI/MHL cable
4. Display Port cable
5. An 3.5 audio jack
6. the driver CD

So, no need to hunt for cable

I'll do a review of it and will update.

NOTE: If you want the dealer/distributor/retailer numbers plz PM me as I do not any ones mobile number.

1. Is this 1.65v RAM is better than 1.5v Corsair Vengeance ?
2. Socket 1155 supports 1.5v RAM and will it work on Gigabyte B75md3h ?

Thia is a 1.5 V ram tested for voltages upto 1.65 V. You can safely use it i your system.

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harshilsharma63 said:
Thia is a 1.5 V ram tested for voltages upto 1.65 V. You can safely use it i your system.

After the compatibility confirmation, Can you please tell me which one should be better than other among, Kingston Hyperx, Corsair Vengeance and G.Skill RasberyX ?

Use 1.5v RAM only or you may damage your mobo. It makes no difference in real world performance

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Which one ...

1. Kingston HyperX Blu DDR3 4 GB PC RAM (KHX1600C9D3B1/4G) - Kingston: Flipkart.com

2. G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3 4 GB (1 x 4 GB) PC RAM (F3-12800CL9S-4GBXL) - G.Skill: Flipkart.com

3. Corsair Vengeance DDR3 4 GB (1 x 4 GB) PC RAM (CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9) - Corsair: Flipkart.com

Cas Latencies are 9 for all.They are almost same. No when you factor in Overclocking its best to choose the which has the lowest of stock voltages IMHO and in most cases.

URPradhan said:
G.Skill RasberyX ?

it is ripjaws

ASHISH65 said:
it is ripjaws

marvelousprashant said:
Use 1.5v RAM only or you may damage your mobo. It makes no difference in real world performance

most mobo today comes with ram voltage support from 1.2 v to 1.8v. So using 1.65v ram does not damage your mobo or ram slots unless he uses extreme clocks and timings

URPradhan said:
Which one ...

1. Kingston HyperX Blu DDR3 4 GB PC RAM (KHX1600C9D3B1/4G) - Kingston: Flipkart.com

2. G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3 4 GB (1 x 4 GB) PC RAM (F3-12800CL9S-4GBXL) - G.Skill: Flipkart.com

3. Corsair Vengeance DDR3 4 GB (1 x 4 GB) PC RAM (CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9) - Corsair: Flipkart.com

corsair for best service. or gskill or kingston for extra juice from the ram modules.(both overclocks well than vengeance.)

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I had been to a local computer hardware market CTC in Hyderabad and the sellers told me the standard cabinets under Rs 1,000/- will not support the Antech v450p like SMPS as they are very heavy and I have to buy a branded cabinet of at least Rs 2,500/- !!!

I surprise, why they said like this ? Are they trying to sell a stock from their warehouse or saying the genuine. Also they do not know any model about Antec NSK4400 and told me Antec cabinets starts from Rs 2,000/- !!!

None of the stores also have G.Skill rams and told me what is G.Skill, you will not get it in Hyderabad ! Really ? Then G.Skill have very poor marketing in HYD

Get Kingston hyperX blue or vengeance. Both are very good.

What does it mean cabinet doesn't support psu. Thats bs. I think many members here are from hyderabad and they will help you

URPradhan said:
I had been to a local computer hardware market CTC in Hyderabad and the sellers told me the standard cabinets under Rs 1,000/- will not support the Antech v450p like SMPS as they are very heavy and I have to buy a branded cabinet of at least Rs 2,500/- !!!

I surprise, why they said like this ? Are they trying to sell a stock from their warehouse or saying the genuine. Also they do not know any model about Antec NSK4400 and told me Antec cabinets starts from Rs 2,000/- !!!

None of the stores also have G.Skill rams and told me what is G.Skill, you will not get it in Hyderabad ! Really ? Then G.Skill have very poor marketing in HYD

> The cabinet will support that PSU. I am also using Corsair CX430V in a local cabinet.

> For ram, you can go with corsair value select too or may buy online.

marvelousprashant said:
Get Kingston hyperX blue or vengeance. Both are very good.

What does it mean cabinet doesn't support psu. Thats bs. I think many members here are from hyderabad and they will help you

Thats not BS. What the shopkeeper meant is that in local cabinets the PSU is top mounted which can cause cause the thin cabinet body to bend by the weight of the heavy PSU. Its completely legit, though vp450p or cx aren't that heavy.

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harshilsharma63 said:
> Thats not BS. What the shopkeeper meant is that in local cabinets the PSU is top mounted which can cause cause the thin cabinet body to bend by the weight of the heavy PSU. Its completely legit, though vp450p or cx aren't that heavy.

I also suspect same, but a desi strong cabinet will do the job well.