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OnePlus 9 blues, and is Samsung S20FE a better (low-cost) alternative?

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vishnov
vishnov Original post #1
Mar 24, 2021 at 10:55 AM
With the OnePlus 9, I was finally hoping to upgrade my 4 years old Samsung C7 Pro. But apparently, don't see it happening. Honestly, I don't see it worth almost 50k of my money. Pro is good, but again way out of my budget.

So friends, if I want to buy a mobile today, should I go with S20FE? The processor is an issue but I love the overall package. Good camera, IP68 rating, latest hardware etc. Or is there an alternative that I should consider?

Also, are there going to be any good mobile launches in the next one or two months worth waiting for? Please advice.

My preferences:
Budget - 35-45k
Display type and size - Super AMOLED or OLED. Size no bar.
Dual sim - Yes
Preferred connectivity options - Should have support for more 5G bands. Will be using the phone for 3 years at least.
The primary use of handset - Camera, multimedia, casual browsing. No gaming.
RumbaMon19
Mar 24, 2021 at 11:15 AM
With the OnePlus 9, I was finally hoping to upgrade my 4 years old Samsung C7 Pro. But apparently, don't see it happening. Honestly, I don't see it worth almost 50k of my money. Pro is good, but again way out of my budget.

So friends, if I want to buy a mobile today, should I go with S20FE? The processor is an issue but I love the overall package. Good camera, IP68 rating, latest hardware etc. Or is there an alternative that I should consider?

Also, are there going to be any good mobile launches in the next one or two months worth waiting for? Please advice.

My preferences:
Budget - 35-45k
Display type and size - Super AMOLED or OLED. Size no bar.
Dual sim - Yes
Preferred connectivity options - Should have support for more 5G bands. Will be using the phone for 3 years at least.
The primary use of handset - Camera, multimedia, casual browsing. No gaming.

You can go with S20FE. As you are not going to game, the processor is not an issue for you, as it will last long enough. If you can wait more than 6 months, galaxy S21FE is also coming soon.

Edit:- Just remember that while setting up the phone for first time, follow guide to remove adware etc. and it will be all good.
vishnov
vishnov #3
Mar 24, 2021 at 11:19 AM
You can go with S20FE. As you are not going to game, the processor is not an issue for you, as it will last long enough. If you can wait more than 6 months, galaxy S21FE is also coming soon.

Edit:- Just remember that while setting up the phone for first time, follow guide to remove adware etc. and it will be all good.
I've heard that the heating issue is notorious on this device thanks to the Exynos processor. I mean, how bad is it? Does it really affect day to day tasks and battery life?

Also, where can I find the guide to remove adware? As a Samsung user, it's pretty intrusive and irritating.

Thanks for the reply :)
RumbaMon19
Mar 24, 2021 at 11:41 AM
I've heard that the heating issue is notorious on this device thanks to the Exynos processor. I mean, how bad is it? Does it really affect day to day tasks and battery life?

Also, where can I find the guide to remove adware? As a Samsung user, it's pretty intrusive and irritating.

Thanks for the reply :)


As for the heating issue, it should not be there when using for day to day task. It is only while gaming or other cpu extensive task when it heats.

For removing ads, I prefer this tutorial


Although the net is full of them...

Also you may consider OnePlus 8T @42k if that suits your needs.

Samsung has better after sales as compared to OnePlus. Also Samsung's ui is great.
vidhubhushan
Mar 24, 2021 at 8:34 PM
With the OnePlus 9, I was finally hoping to upgrade my 4 years old Samsung C7 Pro. But apparently, don't see it happening. Honestly, I don't see it worth almost 50k of my money. Pro is good, but again way out of my budget.

So friends, if I want to buy a mobile today, should I go with S20FE? The processor is an issue but I love the overall package. Good camera, IP68 rating, latest hardware etc. Or is there an alternative that I should consider?

Also, are there going to be any good mobile launches in the next one or two months worth waiting for? Please advice.

My preferences:
Budget - 35-45k
Display type and size - Super AMOLED or OLED. Size no bar.
Dual sim - Yes
Preferred connectivity options - Should have support for more 5G bands. Will be using the phone for 3 years at least.
The primary use of handset - Camera, multimedia, casual browsing. No gaming.

S20FE Indian variant is only 4G.
vishnov
vishnov #6
Mar 25, 2021 at 9:32 AM
S20FE Indian variant is only 4G.
I know, that's another bummer. Thinking of getting it from some other country. However, have you seen/used this phone in person? How is good or bad is it?
vishnov
vishnov #7
Mar 25, 2021 at 9:35 AM
As for the heating issue, it should not be there when using for day to day task. It is only while gaming or other cpu extensive task when it heats.

For removing ads, I prefer this tutorial


Although the net is full of them...

Also you may consider OnePlus 8T @42k if that suits your needs.

Samsung has better after sales as compared to OnePlus. Also Samsung's ui is great.
I'm assuming OP8T is a better overall phone compared to OP9. Hardware and support might be limited since its officially an old generation phone. I'll think about it.

And thanks for the video. Much help.
vishnov
vishnov #8
Mar 25, 2021 at 3:32 PM
Samsung is launching S20 FE 5G Snapdragon Version next week in India. Guess I got lucky.

*telecom.economictimes.indiatimes.c...-of-galaxy-s20-fe-in-india-next-week/81685350
SaiyanGoku
Mar 25, 2021 at 4:06 PM
Samsung is launching S20 FE 5G Snapdragon Version next week in India. Guess I got lucky.

*telecom.economictimes.indiatimes.c...-of-galaxy-s20-fe-in-india-next-week/81685350
In terms of SoC, it would be 2-3 generations behind (888, 870, 865+, 865) and 6 months late. I won't run behind 5G until 2023 to say the least.
RumbaMon19
Mar 25, 2021 at 4:37 PM
In terms of SoC, it would be 2-3 generations behind (888, 870, 865+, 865) and 6 months late. I won't run behind 5G until 2023 to say the least.
It is just one gen behind. SD 888 and 870 are same gen, out of which sd 888 is flagship chip.

865 is not that old, He is not even going to game on that phone, so I don't think 865 is a bad choice. It can easily drive next 4-5 years on 865.

As far as 5G is concerned, it is not coming any soon so buying a smartphone specifically for 5G is not at all a good choice.

Even if it rolls out by the end of year, it will take minimum 1.5yr to rollout to each and every tier-1 and tier-2 city.

But still, he should consider S20 Fe 5G as it is still better than 4G variant.
SaiyanGoku
Mar 25, 2021 at 4:47 PM
SD 888 and 870 are same gen, out of which sd 888 is flagship chip.
My bad, got confused. Didn't think Qualcomm would pull a Oneplus and launch two "flagships" simultaneously.
865 is not that old, He is not even going to game on that phone, so I don't think 865 is a bad choice. It can easily drive next 4-5 years on 865.
That he can surely do. My SD820 OP3 is still working okay and I don't plan to change it unless I can find a phone with custom rom support, 3.5mm jack, 1080p OLED screen and main camera with OIS.
omega44-xt
Mar 25, 2021 at 11:09 PM
Samsung is launching S20 FE 5G Snapdragon Version next week in India. Guess I got lucky.

*telecom.economictimes.indiatimes.c...-of-galaxy-s20-fe-in-india-next-week/81685350
Damn, that's nice. My usual recommendation was to go for 8T for performance & gaming vs S20FE for a good exp in general with top class cameras (same as primary & ultrawide S21/S21+).

IF S20 FE 5G is under 50k, I'll recommend it over even S21+ because of Exynos. Also, it will be enough to kill OP9 for most people. OP9 lacks OIS in the main sensor, so won't match S20 FE for cameras.
RumbaMon19
Mar 26, 2021 at 8:39 AM
Damn, that's nice. My usual recommendation was to go for 8T for performance & gaming vs S20FE for a good exp in general with top class cameras (same as primary & ultrawide S21/S21+).

IF S20 FE 5G is under 50k, I'll recommend it over even S21+ because of Exynos. Also, it will be enough to kill OP9 for most people. OP9 lacks OIS in the main sensor, so won't match S20 FE for cameras.

Yupp. Samsung should have done this before, 5G variant was already a hit in that category.
vidhubhushan
Mar 26, 2021 at 9:09 AM
it appears S20 FE 5G India launch is the reason samsung didn't launch A525G in India and don't have any 5G model of A72.
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chetansha #15
Mar 26, 2021 at 11:23 AM
S20 fe 23500 on croma
This ia 8/256 variant
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vidhubhushan
Mar 26, 2021 at 8:02 PM
Likely pricing error. Someone I know placed the order, let's see if he gets it.

i have seen a lot of posts on twitter of people who have bought it for even less than 24000. it is till priced at around 36000 on amazon.
omega44-xt
Mar 27, 2021 at 9:20 AM
i have seen a lot of posts on twitter of people who have bought it for even less than 24000. it is till priced at around 36000 on amazon.
Yes, some HDFC card offer over that price on croma. Not sure if that price was seen somewhere else.
vishnov
vishnov #22
Mar 27, 2021 at 2:36 PM
In terms of SoC, it would be 2-3 generations behind (888, 870, 865+, 865) and 6 months late. I won't run behind 5G until 2023 to say the least.
I am not crazy about 5G (yet) but the S865 chipset. Either way 5G a good addition considering the price tag.

Another thing I noticed, OP9 supports only 2 bands of 5G in India. Such a shame.
vishnov
vishnov #23
Mar 27, 2021 at 2:38 PM
It is just one gen behind. SD 888 and 870 are same gen, out of which sd 888 is flagship chip.

865 is not that old, He is not even going to game on that phone, so I don't think 865 is a bad choice. It can easily drive next 4-5 years on 865.

As far as 5G is concerned, it is not coming any soon so buying a smartphone specifically for 5G is not at all a good choice.

Even if it rolls out by the end of year, it will take minimum 1.5yr to rollout to each and every tier-1 and tier-2 city.

But still, he should consider S20 Fe 5G as it is still better than 4G variant.
I'm going for the 5G variant mostly because of the chipset. Exynos variant ends up being a hot potato.
vishnov
vishnov #24
Mar 27, 2021 at 2:41 PM
Damn, that's nice. My usual recommendation was to go for 8T for performance & gaming vs S20FE for a good exp in general with top class cameras (same as primary & ultrawide S21/S21+).

IF S20 FE 5G is under 50k, I'll recommend it over even S21+ because of Exynos. Also, it will be enough to kill OP9 for most people. OP9 lacks OIS in the main sensor, so won't match S20 FE for cameras.
OP9 even lacks IP68 rating, supports only 2 bands of 5G in India (which is pathetic), and gimmicky camera. Moreover, Samsung has promised 3 years of android upgrade. So it'll certainly receive Android 13. Good move imo.
vishnov
vishnov #26
Mar 27, 2021 at 2:43 PM
i have seen a lot of posts on twitter of people who have bought it for even less than 24000. it is till priced at around 36000 on amazon.
I'm assuming it's the Exynos version.
vidhubhushan
Mar 27, 2021 at 5:37 PM
Another thing I noticed, OP9 supports only 2 bands of 5G in India. Such a shame.
considering the price, it is insanely overpriced and offers only 2 bands. looks like op people feel us Indian customers are super idiots.
RumbaMon19
Mar 27, 2021 at 6:26 PM
considering the price, it is insanely overpriced and offers only 2 bands. looks like op people feel us Indian customers are super idiots.

That brand is soon going to be doomed. Its no longer what it used to be. It has now joined the trail of oppo vivo. In future, op devices might ship with color OS as it is already doing in china. its no longer stock, Has got a lot of display, software issues. Even the founder has left the country. He has left china and gone to sweden, also got a citiznship there. Maybe because of the fear of CCP. (You know what I mean...)
omega44-xt
Mar 28, 2021 at 10:07 PM
OP9 even lacks IP68 rating, supports only 2 bands of 5G in India (which is pathetic), and gimmicky camera. Moreover, Samsung has promised 3 years of android upgrade. So it'll certainly receive Android 13. Good move imo.
OP was doing 3 years of updates before Samsung. Considering 8T & 9 series launched with 11, they will go till 14, most likely.
vishnov
vishnov #32
Mar 30, 2021 at 7:22 PM
That brand is soon going to be doomed. Its no longer what it used to be. It has now joined the trail of oppo vivo. In future, op devices might ship with color OS as it is already doing in china. its no longer stock, Has got a lot of display, software issues. Even the founder has left the country. He has left china and gone to sweden, also got a citiznship there. Maybe because of the fear of CCP. (You know what I mean...)
Started off as a flagship killer, ended up becoming one. That too overpriced one. OP is not going to be the same again.
vishnov
vishnov #33
Mar 30, 2021 at 7:24 PM
OP was doing 3 years of updates before Samsung. Considering 8T & 9 series launched with 11, they will go till 14, most likely.
Another reason to go with Samsung. OnePlus had its own fan base, now they have killed it. And Samsung is stepping up. In the end, an average consumer is getting everything he's looking for in a mid-range flagship.
RumbaMon19
Mar 30, 2021 at 8:41 PM
Started off as a flagship killer, ended up becoming one. That too overpriced one. OP is not going to be the same again.

Also, OnePlus had terrible after sales. Samsung has better after sales and is cheaper....
RumbaMon19
Mar 31, 2021 at 1:24 PM
In which city?

No, not in that way. It does have a service centre within 20KM. To me. But this happened with my friend.

He gave his phone for screen replacement, as there was a crack on screen. The mobo and battery were all ok. OnePlus took his device for 1 week, didn't do anything. Later when he contacted them, they said the device will be repaired in another week's time.

After 5 days he receives a call from OnePlus that his phone also needs a change in motherboard, he asked what was the problem with mobo,. To which the guy knew nothing. He told him that he will contact later regarding mobo.

They forced him to get its mobo also changed. He after trying several times, decided to cancel repair. Instead got the screen repaired by third party, for cheaper. And like before there was no issue in mobo.

It happened with op 6

If you see r/OnePlus and r/android, you will find many such cases, India and abroad, where people are forced in this trap.

Samsung has rather a much faster and better service. They have higher number of service centres.