PC build under 25k budget

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I want to build a pc under a budget of 25k. For the time being, i will not be gaming and will use it for basic things like web browsing and all.

But in future, i will plan to add a graphic card to it (within 10k to 15k budget) to make it good for gaming as well. So, the current build should be capable of getting the best from such graphic card.

Keeping this into consideration, please suggest a quality build which i can use for 6-7 yrs or more.

As i dont have plan for GPU as of now, the cpu should have integrated graphics.

I already have monitor, mouse and keyboard and not planning to change it as of now.

For the components, please suggest some good online dealers as well.

Thanks!

TSolanki said:
So, the current build should be capable of getting the best from such graphic card.

New 25k budget build won't be good enough for adding a 10-15k GPU. A 40k build can accommodate a R3 3300X.

I thought you don't have budget until I read you already have a monitor.
But still this suggestion gonna overshoot your budget by few thousands. And skipping HDD in favour of SSD.
i3 10100 + H410 + 8GB RAM + 450w Bronze rated PSU + 250GB SSD + Generic cabinet

This is little better wrt to cpu and igpu and costs little more, about 30k
4350G + A520 + 8GB RAM + 450w Bronze rated PSU + 250GB SSD + Generic cabinet

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Will the above configuration suggested by you be good enough for the graphic card in 10-15k range ? It will be good if you can suggest a graphic card too for that.

Also, i am little bit confused between the processors i3 10100 and 4350g.

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nac said:
I thought you don't have budget until I read you already have a monitor.
But still this suggestion gonna overshoot your budget by few thousands. And skipping HDD in favour of SSD.
i3 10100 + H410 + 8GB RAM + 450w Bronze rated PSU + 250GB SSD + Generic cabinet

This is little better wrt to cpu and igpu and costs little more, about 30k
4350G + A520 + 8GB RAM + 450w Bronze rated PSU + 250GB SSD + Generic cabinet

Will the above configuration suggested by you be good enough for the graphic card in 10-15k range ? It will be good if you can suggest a graphic card too for that.

Also, i am little bit confused between the processors i3 10100 and 4350g.

please help with the below things as well:
- ram model, frequency and cas latency.
- PSU model number
- Mobo model number
- does the processor come with heat sink cooler?

Yeah, they are good enough for a 15k GPU.
Which one you think you're gonna go, AMD or Intel? And BTW, when you're planning to buy?
- If you with AMD, for higher frequency as much as your budget allows. At least 3200mhz. If Intel, get at least 2666mhz.
- Corsair CX450 or CV450 or CM MWE Bronze v2. Here mostly suggest to get corsair, but you have very small budget.
- Yes, CPU comes with cooler.

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nac said:
Yeah, they are good enough for a 15k GPU.
Which one you think you're gonna go, AMD or Intel? And BTW, when you're planning to buy?
- If you with AMD, for higher frequency as much as your budget allows. At least 3200mhz. If Intel, get at least 2666mhz.
- Corsair CX450 or CV450 or CM MWE Bronze v2. Here mostly suggest to get corsair, but you have very small budget.
- Yes, CPU comes with cooler.

No plan for GPU as of now. Just concerned about if the current build will accomodate that or not. We can shortlist that later.

With which processor (intel or AMD) should i go? Don't have much idea about it. If you can suggest which one is better, that will be helpful. Mainly it should be good for long run, easy to upgrade (processor upgrade) with the same setup.

TSolanki said:
No plan for GPU as of now.
We can shortlist that later.

With which processor (intel or AMD) should i go? Don't have much idea about it. If you can suggest which one is better, that will be helpful.
Mainly it should be good for long run, easy to upgrade (processor upgrade) with the same setup.

Yeah, I got that from the original post.
Of course, when you thinking of buying one, post a new thread for that.

That depends, whether you're ready to spend more or not. The AMD is better and also pricier.
Whatever you pick, it will be good for long run. What kinda upgrade you're talking about? If you're thinking about top of the line CPU, the base model board wouldn't be advised.

You better fill the questionnaire.

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nac said:
i3 10100 + H410 + 8GB RAM + 450w Bronze rated PSU + 250GB SSD + Generic cabinet

Good to go with i3 10100 as of now. Please help with model number and brands for the below :

- mobo (which brand to buy and model no.)
- ram ( model number and brand)
- SSD (model number and brand)

PSU : corsair cx450 i have finalised.
HDD : i have seagate 500gb hdd from old build, will be using that too along with sdd.

Get at least i3 10100 based rig as suggested earlier.

CPU - Intel i3 10100 - 9.9k

Mobo - MSI H410M Pro-VH - 5.6k (it has M.2 SSD slot)

RAM - 1x8GB DDR4 2666+MHz - 2.3k*

GPU - Integrated

SSD - Kingston A400 120GB 2.5″ - 1.8k

HDD - WD/Seagate 1TB 7200RPM - 3.2k

PSU - Corsair CX550/CM MWE 550 or other 80+ Bronze - 4.5k

Cabinet - Corsair SPEC 05 or other mid tower ATX - 3k

Total - 30.3k

*Get 2666MHz RAM but sometimes higher freq RAM is cheaper. Say a 3000MHz RAM will underclock & run at 2666.

Check primeabgb, mdcomputers, theitdepot, vedant computers, onlyssd (online stores as well) for PC parts at a good price, sometimes even amazon.

- mobo (which brand to buy and model no.) - ASUS H410M E
- ram ( model number and brand) - Any popular brand is fine. Hyper X, Corsari Vengeance, G Skill, Adata 2666mhz or higher.
- SSD (model number and brand) - Crucial MX500 250GB

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I have finalised below components. Please suggest if anything to be changed:

- CPU : intel I3 10100

- RAM : ADATA XPG D10 series 8gb (8gbx1) 3000MHz DDR4

- Mobo : ASUS PRIME H410M-E

- SSD : i got some suggestion to choose 500gb M2, so shortlisted "Silicon Power P34A60 512 GB NVME M.2 PCIE SSD"

- PSU : Corsair CX450

- Cabinet : ANTEC NX210 ARGB ATX Mid tower cabinet with tampered glass side panel

TSolanki said:
I have finalised below components. Please suggest if anything to be changed:

- CPU : intel I3 10100

- RAM : ADATA XPG D10 series 8gb (8gbx1) 3000MHz DDR4

- Mobo : ASUS PRIME H410M-E

- SSD : i got some suggestion to choose 500gb M2, so shortlisted "Silicon Power P34A60 512 GB NVME M.2 PCIE SSD"

- PSU : Corsair CX450

- Cabinet : ANTEC NX210 ARGB ATX Mid tower cabinet with tampered glass side panel

Intel CPUs with budget mobos don't run at more than 2666MHz freq for RAM. So get that cheap Crucial 8GB 2666MHz stick for 2.3k from amazon.

For budget H410s, make sure it has M.2 slot.

For how much are you getting that SP NVMe? Kingston A2000 500GB goes for 5k & is a great value or WD SN550.

CX450 is sufficient for up to 120W GPUs in general, like GTX 1660S. But 500-550W will allow for even 150-180W GPUs to run without issues (in case you decide to get a second hand one or if the successor of 1660S uses more power & you decide to get that). I don't think 15k GPUs will use 150W or more anytime soon though.

For how much are you getting that Antec cabinet? 4 fans are great to have with its only con being lack of meshed front. but your PC isn't high end, so should be fine. It's fine for 3.5k or so, but better options present at 4.5-5k, like MSI MAG Forge 100M. Deepcool Mattrexx 55 Mesh with 4 fans cost 5.5k or 3.5k w/o fans.

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omega44-xt said:
Intel CPUs with budget mobos don't run at more than 2666MHz freq for RAM. So get that cheap Crucial 8GB 2666MHz stick for 2.3k from amazon.

For budget H410s, make sure it has M.2 slot.

For how much are you getting that SP NVMe? Kingston A2000 500GB goes for 5k & is a great value or WD SN550.

CX450 is sufficient for up to 120W GPUs in general, like GTX 1660S. But 500-550W will allow for even 150-180W GPUs to run without issues (in case you decide to get a second hand one or if the successor of 1660S uses more power & you decide to get that). I don't think 15k GPUs will use 150W or more anytime soon though.

For how much are you getting that Antec cabinet? 4 fans are great to have with its only con being lack of meshed front. but your PC isn't high end, so should be fine. It's fine for 3.5k or so, but better options present at 4.5-5k, like MSI MAG Forge 100M. Deepcool Mattrexx 55 Mesh with 4 fans cost 5.5k or 3.5k w/o fans.

- getting this adata ddr4 3000MHz ram @2400rs. should i go with 2666 MHz within same price range?

- ASUS 410M E mobo has M.2 slot (1 x M Key 2242, 2260, 2280 (PCIe 3.0 x2, SATA III)). Will 3x4 PCIe SSD compatible for this mobo?
Also, will this mobo support M.2 NVME SSD or not?

- SP NVME i am getting for 5k. Should i go with kingston as u suggested within same price range?

- Planning for only 10k-15k budget gpu in future. So CX450 seems fine. Any benefit of getting 550w?

- Antec cabinet for 3650 rs. Suggest if good to go with the others u suggested.

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I have one doubt, whether ASUS 410M E mobo support M.2 NVME SSD or not? It has M.2 slot (1 x M Key 2242, 2260, 2280 (PCIe 3.0 x2, SATA III)). Also, Will 3x4 PCIe SSD compatible for this mobo?

TSolanki said:
- getting this adata ddr4 3000MHz ram @2400rs. should i go with 2666 MHz within same price range?

- ASUS 410M E mobo has M.2 slot (1 x M Key 2242, 2260, 2280 (PCIe 3.0 x2, SATA III)). Will 3x4 PCIe SSD compatible for this mobo?
Also, will this mobo support M.2 NVME SSD or not?

- SP NVME i am getting for 5k. Should i go with kingston as u suggested within same price range?

- Planning for only 10k-15k budget gpu in future. So CX450 seems fine. Any benefit of getting 550w?

- Antec cabinet for 3650 rs. Suggest if good to go with the others u suggested.

No point getting 3000MHz as you can't use 3000MHz freq nor can you change timings (most likely).

PCIe 3.0 x4 SSDs won't run at full speed, but only top end ones like Samsung 970 Evo, Adata SX8200Pro, WD Black etc. The bandwidth should be sufficient for slower NVMes like A2000, SN550 or even the SP one.

550W just gives more headroom, as I mentioned earlier. That's it, otherwise CX450 is great.

3.6k is fine for that Antec one but some sellers were selling it for 3.5k.

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Will it be good choice to take "MSI H410M PRO-VH mATX Motherboard" Rather than ASUS H410M?
MSI got M.2 3.0x4 NVME ssd support i think.
Also, read somewhere that we need to make sure that BIOS should support nvme for os installation.
Will this MSI mobo fulfill these things?

TSolanki said:
Will it be good choice to take "MSI H410M PRO-VH mATX Motherboard" Rather than ASUS H410M?
MSI got M.2 3.0x4 NVME ssd support i think.
Also, read somewhere that we need to make sure that BIOS should support nvme for os installation.
Will this MSI mobo fulfill these things?

That MSI one was mentioned in my initial response.

Not sure about BIOS support stuff, search more about it. Usually, that's not the case.

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Shortlisting MSI H410M PRO-VH mATX Motherboard. As suggested earlier, "Kingston 500GB A2000 M.2 2280 Nvme Internal SSD PCIe Up to 2000MB/S (SA2000M8/500G)" will be compatible with this mobo. Correct?

Also, Shortlisted some RAMs with 2666Mhz, please suggest which is good to consider :

Crucial Basics 8GB DDR4 1.2v 2666Mhz CL19 UDIMM RAM for 2265/-

HyperX Fury 8GB 2666MHz DDR4 CL16 DIMM 1Rx8 Black XMP Desktop Memory (HX426C16FB3/8) for 2748/-

ADATA XPG GAMMIX D10 Memory DDR4 RAM 2666MHz for Desktop (8 GB) for 2808/-

TSolanki said:
Shortlisting MSI H410M PRO-VH mATX Motherboard. As suggested earlier, "Kingston 500GB A2000 M.2 2280 Nvme Internal SSD PCIe Up to 2000MB/S (SA2000M8/500G)" will be compatible with this mobo. Correct?

Also, Shortlisted some RAMs with 2666Mhz, please suggest which is good to consider :

Crucial Basics 8GB DDR4 1.2v 2666Mhz CL19 UDIMM RAM for 2265/-

HyperX Fury 8GB 2666MHz DDR4 CL16 DIMM 1Rx8 Black XMP Desktop Memory (HX426C16FB3/8) for 2748/-

ADATA XPG GAMMIX D10 Memory DDR4 RAM 2666MHz for Desktop (8 GB) for 2808/-

Yes, A2000 should work.

CL16 vs CL19 gives a small performance jump, but at most 2-3%. Dual channel RAM (2 sticks) provides a bigger performance jump, so add another stick later & you should be good.

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omega44-xt said:
CL16 vs CL19 gives a small performance jump, but at most 2-3%. Dual channel RAM (2 sticks) provides a bigger performance jump, so add another stick later & you should be good.

Just few more questions :
- if i am getting good deal for 3000MHz RAM, is there any issue if i use it rather than 2666MHz? I don't have much knowledge about it.

- not able to find corsair cx series. Is it fine to go with corsair CV series or CM MWE 550 or any other good option you have to suggest?

TSolanki said:
Just few more questions :
- if i am getting good deal for 3000MHz RAM, is there any issue if i use it rather than 2666MHz? I don't have much knowledge about it.

- not able to find corsair cx series. Is it fine to go with corsair CV series or CM MWE 550 or any other good option you have to suggest?

Unless 3000MHz is cheaper than 2666MHz, it is a waste of money for you.

Yes, for a low end system CV450 or MWE 450 80+ bronze will suffice.

Looks like you've have gone well over your budget.

Yeah, you can very well pick higher frequency RAM if you're getting good deal.
If you can't find CX, yeah you can go for CV or MWE Bronze V2. General consensus is that Corsair is better than CM. But I picked up MWE Bronze V2 last week, for my iGPU build because wanted to spend as little as possible and also it is in Tier C low priority units and CV is in Tier D and costs more.
CM has this DC to DC while CV is not (though I don't understand much about DC-DC + LLC vs group regulated units. Google if you want to know more about this).
Case with 4 fans for 3.5k looks like a very good deal. :thumbs:

*www.amazon.in/dp/B07J2WBKXF?tag=thuttu-21&ascsubtag=808969

CRUCIAL P1 500GB 3D NAND NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (CT500P1SSD8)

Rs 4650

mitraark said:
*www.amazon.in/dp/B07J2WBKXF?tag=thuttu-21&ascsubtag=808969

CRUCIAL P1 500GB 3D NAND NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (CT500P1SSD8)

Rs 4650

Avoid IMO, better pay 350 extra for this, much better SSD:
*www.amazon.in/Kingston-Internal-20...words=a2000&qid=1606195580&s=computers&sr=1-1

In most cases surely you don't see a difference between QLC & TLC SSDs, but as soon as you copy files, you will think why you didn't pay a bit extra for TLC. I own an Intel 660p & HP EX920, when I bought 660p, TLC drives were just 1.2k or so extra for 1TB units, I do think sometimes that I should have spent that extra money for TLC.

For 25k you cant get a gaming pc even without graphics card So i wont suggest buying descrete graphics card.For office pc its fine.

omega44-xt said:
Get at least i3 10100 based rig as suggested earlier.

CPU - Intel i3 10100 - 9.9k

Mobo - MSI H410M Pro-VH - 5.6k (it has M.2 SSD slot)

RAM - 1x8GB DDR4 2666+MHz - 2.3k*

GPU - Integrated

SSD - Kingston A400 120GB 2.5″ - 1.8k

HDD - WD/Seagate 1TB 7200RPM - 3.2k

PSU - Corsair CX550/CM MWE 550 or other 80+ Bronze - 4.5k

Cabinet - Corsair SPEC 05 or other mid tower ATX - 3k

Total - 30.3k

*Get 2666MHz RAM but sometimes higher freq RAM is cheaper. Say a 3000MHz RAM will underclock & run at 2666.

Check primeabgb, mdcomputers, theitdepot, vedant computers, onlyssd (online stores as well) for PC parts at a good price, sometimes even amazon.

Would this be a good build for an office desktop? (Word, Excel, PDF, browsing, video-conferencing, printing, collating scanned docs etc).

Can I replace the above suggestions with the following?
1. Corsair CV450 instead of CX450 (or an even cheaper alternative?)
2. Kingston 250GB A2000 M.2 2280 Nvme Internal SSD PCIe. No separate HDD. I am planning to get a SATA SSD later if need arises.
3. Which 2666 Mhz ram to choose from? Is there any order of priority amongst the Crucial, HyperX and Adata discussed above?
4. Cabinet - Are there any well known slim cabinets? Or is it prudent to get the Corsair one for better airflow and build quality? Again, the idea here is to get the bare minimum cabinet which would safely house these components without any heating issues.

My idea is to build a desktop that may run for a few years without requiring any major upgrades. I am not particular about a good looking ram module, cabinets with glass panel, or a very powerful PSU, unless it is a necessity.

Is the BenQ-GW2283 (Black) a good monitor? Or is there a better alternative for about 7,000?

Didn't want to start a new thread as most of the information was already available here.

Thank you.

coruscant said:
Can I replace the above suggestions with the following?
1. Corsair CV450 instead of CX450 (or an even cheaper alternative?)
2. Kingston 250GB A2000 M.2 2280 Nvme Internal SSD PCIe. No separate HDD. I am planning to get a SATA SSD later if need arises.
3. Which 2666 Mhz ram to choose from? Is there any order of priority amongst the Crucial, HyperX and Adata discussed above?
4. Cabinet - Are there any well known slim cabinets? Or is it prudent to get the Corsair one for better airflow and build quality? Again, the idea here is to get the bare minimum cabinet which would safely house these components without any heating issues.

1 Yeah, if you can go for CV450 or MWE Bronze 450 V2
2 You mean you're going for A2000 NVME and don't want HDD? Yeah, sure you can go.
3 There is no priority here. Any popular brand will do. Since the price of higher frequency costs the same, you can go for that.
4 Mostly slim cabinets are not available and the ones available are pricey and it's hard source PSU for such cabinets. If budget is an issue, you can go for generic cabinet.

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coruscant said:
3. Which 2666 Mhz ram to choose from? Is there any order of priority amongst the Crucial, HyperX and Adata discussed above?

Prefer crucial basic models as they are cheapest on amazon/other sites & also because no point in going with ram models with heat spreaders/higher frequency with a non-overclocking intel system.

coruscant said:
My idea is to build a desktop that may run for a few years without requiring any major upgrades. I am not particular about a good looking ram module, cabinets with glass panel, or a very powerful PSU, unless it is a necessity.

For this make sure to get a good psu & if you are sure to never go above 1650 equivalent cards then you can get a psu which is in tier C of linustechtips psu tier list:

*linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

coruscant said:
Would this be a good build for an office desktop? (Word, Excel, PDF, browsing, video-conferencing, printing, collating scanned docs etc).

Can I replace the above suggestions with the following?
1. Corsair CV450 instead of CX450 (or an even cheaper alternative?)
2. Kingston 250GB A2000 M.2 2280 Nvme Internal SSD PCIe. No separate HDD. I am planning to get a SATA SSD later if need arises.
3. Which 2666 Mhz ram to choose from? Is there any order of priority amongst the Crucial, HyperX and Adata discussed above?
4. Cabinet - Are there any well known slim cabinets? Or is it prudent to get the Corsair one for better airflow and build quality? Again, the idea here is to get the bare minimum cabinet which would safely house these components without any heating issues.

My idea is to build a desktop that may run for a few years without requiring any major upgrades. I am not particular about a good looking ram module, cabinets with glass panel, or a very powerful PSU, unless it is a necessity.

Is the BenQ-GW2283 (Black) a good monitor? Or is there a better alternative for about 7,000?

Didn't want to start a new thread as most of the information was already available here.

Thank you.

1. Yes. Don't go below 80+ bronze rated PSUs. There are some cheap 80+ bronze 450W ones for 3.5k as well.

2. A2000 is a good NVMe drive. You can't add a 2nd M.2 SSD, so be careful. IMO get A400 120GB now & get a decent capacity M.2 later (clone OS to it when you do so), but your call.

3. Get the cheapest from a reputed company, that's it. Currently, amazon has Crucial one for 2.3k.

4. Micro ATX cabinets are the smallest I'd recommend, like Cooler Master Q300L at 4.5k. Mobo I suggested is micro ATX, not ATX.

That BenQ one is good enough for the price.

For normal tasks, the rig I suggested will last you long, can even put a budget GPU to play games.

Thank you Omega, whitestar and nac for the quick responses.

I'll go for the CV450, Crucial RAM, and the BenQ monitor. That Cooler Master cabinet is beautiful, but a bit overpriced (for me) for this pc build. I think I will go with the Corsair Carbide 100R CC or the Zebronics Zeb-Mars.

I am thinking of keeping the A2000 256GB M.2 one for now, and then add an additional 1TB SATA III HD (if I find a good deal on Cybermonday). I suppose a M.2 SSD and a SATA SSD can co-exist? (Sorry, I have very little knowledge about desktop computers having predominantly used laptops for the past decade).

Also, given the use case for this build, should I alternatively think of a Ryzen 3 3200G + MSI A320M-A Pro Max? It saves about 4k on the processor/mobo combo.

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coruscant said:
I think I will go with the Corsair Carbide 100R CC or the Zebronics Zeb-Mars.

Corsair 100R has a very annoying issue which is rarely mentioned in reviews & which I found out only after buying it. The space between its right side panel(the side that is usually always closed) & hdd cage is not much so in case of multiple hdd/ssd in cage & a psu like corsair CX450/550/650 etc which have sata power connectors daisy chained in a thick sleeved wire it becomes very difficult to close the side panel after connecting all the sata power connectors.

coruscant said:
I am thinking of keeping the A2000 256GB M.2 one for now, and then add an additional 1TB SATA III HD (if I find a good deal on Cybermonday). I suppose a M.2 SSD and a SATA SSD can co-exist? (Sorry, I have very little knowledge about desktop computers having predominantly used laptops for the past decade).

It is not USA so forget about black friday/cyber monday deals here. M.2 is a form factor while interface can be sata as well as NVMe(usually referred to as pcie x2/x4 ssd). A M.2 sata ssd is just your typical 2.5" sata ssd without its external casing so in all mobos 1/2 sata ports share lane with M.2 sata ssd port & installing M.2 sata ssd in that port disables 1/2 sata ports(that is also why it is recommended to use regular 2.5" sata ssd instead of M.2 sata ssd because they are basically same but M.2 sata ssd waste an extra sata port). M.2 NVMe ssd uses pcie lanes instead of sata lanes so its install has no effect on sata ports.

whitestar_999 said:
Corsair 100R has a very annoying issue which is rarely mentioned in reviews & which I found out only after buying it. The space between its right side panel(the side that is usually always closed) & hdd cage is not much so in case of multiple hdd/ssd in cage & a psu like corsair CX450/550/650 etc which have sata power connectors daisy chained in a thick sleeved wire it becomes very difficult to close the side panel after connecting all the sata power connectors.

It is not USA so forget about black friday/cyber monday deals here. M.2 is a form factor while interface can be sata as well as NVMe(usually referred to as pcie x2/x4 ssd). A M.2 sata ssd is just your typical 2.5" sata ssd without its external casing so in all mobos 1/2 sata ports share lane with M.2 sata ssd port & installing M.2 sata ssd in that port disables 1/2 sata ports(that is also why it is recommended to use regular 2.5" sata ssd instead of M.2 sata ssd because they are basically same but M.2 sata ssd waste an extra sata port). M.2 NVMe ssd uses pcie lanes instead of sata lanes so its install has no effect on sata ports.

Thank you. And yes, I am planning to have someone in the US get a SSD as there were some good deals for BF, which is likely to recur for Cyber Monday. Going by your explanation, I gather that I can use the A2000 256 GB M.2 NVMe SSD and add another SATA III SSD without any issues.

coruscant said:
Thank you Omega, whitestar and nac for the quick responses.

I'll go for the CV450, Crucial RAM, and the BenQ monitor. That Cooler Master cabinet is beautiful, but a bit overpriced (for me) for this pc build. I think I will go with the Corsair Carbide 100R CC or the Zebronics Zeb-Mars.

I am thinking of keeping the A2000 256GB M.2 one for now, and then add an additional 1TB SATA III HD (if I find a good deal on Cybermonday). I suppose a M.2 SSD and a SATA SSD can co-exist? (Sorry, I have very little knowledge about desktop computers having predominantly used laptops for the past decade).

Also, given the use case for this build, should I alternatively think of a Ryzen 3 3200G + MSI A320M-A Pro Max? It saves about 4k on the processor/mobo combo.

Yes, SATA & M.2 NVMes can co-exist. Just make sure of your mobo limitations. Some mobo disables a few SATA ports when M.2 slot is in use.

IF buying from US, maybe get an NVMe from there. I have seen WD SN550 1TB for $95. Better than QLC drives like Intel 660p/Crucial P1.

That i3 10100 is a better CPU but for office work, R3 3200G will suffice as well. Make sure those cheap mobos have at least a PCIe 3.0 x2 M.2 slot (if not x4).

Thank you! Any suggestions for a UPS?

coruscant said:
Thank you! Any suggestions for a UPS?

Any 600Va one will do. APC has one for under 3k. I use a Zebronics one that I bought for 2k ( I don't intend to use it for more than 1.5 years though). You can change the battery for like 800-900 when its weak.

omega44-xt said:
Any 600Va one will do. APC has one for under 3k. I use a Zebronics one that I bought for 2k ( I don't intend to use it for more than 1.5 years though). You can change the battery for like 800-900 when its weak.

Thanks a lot! I have finalised the following and should be placing the order today or tomorrow.

Intel i3-10100
MSI H410M Pro-VH
Crucial Basics 8GB DDR4 1.2v 2666Mhz
Kingston M.2 250 GB
Corsair CV450
Benq – GW2283 (Black) With speaker
Dell K/B & Mouse combo

Only left to make up my mind on the cabinet and motherboard.

Should I go for the Gigabyte B460M HD Gaming motherboard instead of the H410m (price difference is about 1500 more)? Wondering if paying for a premium motherboard makes sense from a longevity perspective (though anything could go wrong with components).

For the cabinet, I am confused between the Q300L / Deepcool Matrexx 30 / Silverstone Fara R1. The first two seem to have a smaller footprint than the Corsair / Antec gaming ones that retail for about 3000 odd.

coruscant said:
Wondering if paying for a premium motherboard makes sense from a longevity perspective (though anything could go wrong with components).

Go for it. May be you can change your processor to something like i5-10500 a couple of years down the line.

coruscant said:
Should I go for the Gigabyte B460M HD Gaming motherboard instead of the H410m (price difference is about 1500 more)? Wondering if paying for a premium motherboard makes sense from a longevity perspective (though anything could go wrong with components).

For the cabinet, I am confused between the Q300L / Deepcool Matrexx 30 / Silverstone Fara R1. The first two seem to have a smaller footprint than the Corsair / Antec gaming ones that retail for about 3000 odd.

B460 is better, but good B460 mobo cost near 10k. Not worth it for basic usage/office rig IMO.

Mattrexx 30 is 3.1k at vedant, so a good choice for cheap IMO. Remember that these support micro ATX mobos, not ATX ones. Don't change mobo to ATX size one by mistake.

omega44-xt said:
B460 is better, but good B460 mobo cost near 10k. Not worth it for basic usage/office rig IMO.

Mattrexx 30 is 3.1k at vedant, so a good choice for cheap IMO. Remember that these support micro ATX mobos, not ATX ones. Don't change mobo to ATX size one by mistake.

Just checked - both the Gigabyte B460M Gaming HD (approx. 7k) and the MSI H410M Pro-VH (approx. 5500-6,000) are micro ATX board. Thank you again for the cabinet suggestion.

coruscant said:
For the cabinet, I am confused between the Q300L / Deepcool Matrexx 30 / Silverstone Fara R1. The first two seem to have a smaller footprint than the Corsair / Antec gaming ones that retail for about 3000 odd.

Silverstone Fara R1 made it to best budget case suggestion by Gamernexus. Checkout his article/video Best case 2020, just dropped few days ago.
He didn't find Q500L good, so pretty much the same will apply to Q300L as well I guess as both are pretty much the same.
But hey! For a simple build like this, any will do.

Pulled the trigger on this today.

Core i3-10100
MSI H410-M Pro-VH
Crucial Basics 8GB DDR4 2666 MHz
Kingston A2000 M.2 256 GB
Cooler Master MWE450 Bronze V2
Deepcool Matrexx 30
Benq - GW2283
Logitech Keyboard/Mouse MK 220

Last minute change to Cooler Master over Corsair based on that PSU rating list (though the CM may have a coil whine issue).

Though I had made up my mind about getting the Silverstone Fara R1, however Vedant Computers dropped the price of the Deepcool Matrexx 30 to 2500 today (from 3122) and therefore decided to go with this.

Once again, thank you @omega44-xt , @nac and @whitestar_999 for your inputs. And sorry about hijacking this 25k pc build thread.

whitestar_999 said:
Corsair 100R has a very annoying issue which is rarely mentioned in reviews & which I found out only after buying it. The space between its right side panel(the side that is usually always closed) & hdd cage is not much so in case of multiple hdd/ssd in cage & a psu like corsair CX450/550/650 etc which have sata power connectors daisy chained in a thick sleeved wire it becomes very difficult to close the side panel after connecting all the sata power connectors.

It is not USA so forget about black friday/cyber monday deals here. M.2 is a form factor while interface can be sata as well as NVMe(usually referred to as pcie x2/x4 ssd). A M.2 sata ssd is just your typical 2.5" sata ssd without its external casing so in all mobos 1/2 sata ports share lane with M.2 sata ssd port & installing M.2 sata ssd in that port disables 1/2 sata ports(that is also why it is recommended to use regular 2.5" sata ssd instead of M.2 sata ssd because they are basically same but M.2 sata ssd waste an extra sata port). M.2 NVMe ssd uses pcie lanes instead of sata lanes so its install has no effect on sata ports.

I went through the Motherboard Manual, and using a M.2 NVMe ssd would disable only one sata port (SATA4). This is what it says:

"4x SATA 6Gb/s ports*
∙∙ 1x M.2 slot (Key M)
▪▪M2_1 supports up to PCIe 3.0 x4 and SATA 6Gb/s, 2242/ 2260/ 2280 storage devices*

* SATA4 will be unavailable when installing M.2 SATA SSD in the M.2 slot."

coruscant said:
Pulled the trigger on this today.

Core i3-10100
MSI H410-M Pro-VH
Crucial Basics 8GB DDR4 2666 MHz
Kingston A2000 M.2 256 GB
Cooler Master MWE450 Bronze V2
Deepcool Matrexx 30
Benq - GW2283
Logitech Keyboard/Mouse MK 220

Last minute change to Cooler Master over Corsair based on that PSU rating list (though the CM may have a coil whine issue).

Though I had made up my mind about getting the Silverstone Fara R1, however Vedant Computers dropped the price of the Deepcool Matrexx 30 to 2500 today (from 3122) and therefore decided to go with this.

Once again, thank you @omega44-xt , @nac and @whitestar_999 for your inputs. And sorry about hijacking this 25k pc build thread.

Great, congrats. Total price? If possible, individual breakdown.

Total cost was 36,906/-

Core i3-10100 - 9.9k
MSI H410-M Pro-VH - 5.6k
Crucial Basics 8GB DDR4 2666 MHz - 2.3k (Amazon)
Kingston A2000 M.2 256 GB - 3,450 (3,250 @ Vedant et al, didn't remember to negotiate)
Cooler Master MWE450 Bronze V2 - 2,750
Deepcool Matrexx 30 - 3142 (2500 + 642 shipping. Funny story that the price was at 3123/- earlier and after I ordered everything from MD computers, the Cabinet's price dropped to 2500. It was then between paying 3142 for Deepcool, or 3999 for Fara R1, and decided to go with the m-atx cabinet)
Benq - GW2283 - 7.8k
Logitech Keyboard/Mouse MK 220 - 1338

MD computers offered free shipping to Delhi, but charged a convenience fee of Rs.600 odd on their website. This still worked out cheaper than Vedant's (2000k shipping charges for the entire build) and Prime ABGB's (1.3k shipping charges).

On a side note, I found MD computers' service to be very good (responded with an e-mail quotation, quick to answer calls etc). I can't say the same for Vedant who didn't bother to respond to my e-mail at all and just said everything is on the website when I messaged them.

coruscant said:
Total cost was 36,906/-

Core i3-10100 - 9.9k
MSI H410-M Pro-VH - 5.6k
Crucial Basics 8GB DDR4 2666 MHz - 2.3k (Amazon)
Kingston A2000 M.2 256 GB - 3,450 (3,250 @ Vedant et al, didn't remember to negotiate)
Cooler Master MWE450 Bronze V2 - 2,750
Deepcool Matrexx 30 - 3142 (2500 + 642 shipping. Funny story that the price was at 3123/- earlier and after I ordered everything from MD computers, the Cabinet's price dropped to 2500. It was then between paying 3142 for Deepcool, or 3999 for Fara R1, and decided to go with the m-atx cabinet)
Benq - GW2283 - 7.8k
Logitech Keyboard/Mouse MK 220 - 1338

MD computers offered free shipping to Delhi, but charged a convenience fee of Rs.600 odd on their website. This still worked out cheaper than Vedant's (2000k shipping charges for the entire build) and Prime ABGB's (1.3k shipping charges).

On a side note, I found MD computers' service to be very good (responded with an e-mail quotation, quick to answer calls etc). I can't say the same for Vedant who didn't bother to respond to my e-mail at all and just said everything is on the website when I messaged them.

Good prices

W

coruscant said:
I went through the Motherboard Manual, and using a M.2 NVMe ssd would disable only one sata port (SATA4). This is what it says:

"4x SATA 6Gb/s ports*
∙∙ 1x M.2 slot (Key M)
▪▪M2_1 supports up to PCIe 3.0 x4 and SATA 6Gb/s, 2242/ 2260/ 2280 storage devices*

* SATA4 will be unavailable when installing M.2 SATA SSD in the M.2 slot."

On mobos with 6 sata ports it is usually the case that 2 sata ports are disabled when using a m.2 sata ssd, I guess for 4 ports it is expected that only 1 sata port is disabled else that will leave only 2 sata ports enabled.