There isnt any cheaper Z313
I purchased the speaker last week for rs.1600. and its a good set of speaker. might post a review soon.
ico thanks for the change. i hope this is done every month else the threads become way too big.
For those who need a review of MSI Z68-GD80:-
MSI Z68A-GD80 (B3) LGA1155 Mainboard Review - X-bit labs
. Its good enough for its price i mean good set of punchy speakers but with much lower power. The bass is weak and certainly not for bass lovers but produces clear mids and lows even at high volumes but distorts after....lets say 70% of volume.
I have z313 as well.
Very good for their price.
Logitech z506 all the way. Much better than creative t6100.
All other scores are almost neck and neck except superpi where msi boards perform much better than all gigabyte z68 and p67 boards.When cpu and memory are overclocked, msi dethrones all gigabyte boards. I think people do buy z68 boards to overclock if not like crazy.
So my vote goes to msi z68 boards.
The bios in MSI Z68 is not totally sucks.Its absolutely fine.Not good as ASUS board but it totally depends on personal use.Overclockersclub said:
get a i5-2500k and spend the extra bucks on a good headphones or gfx card, or sound card or cabby...i would have done that...
how is CM Storm Scout compared to 690 II Advanced/Plus? i need to decide before buying! [many friends(in TDF) suggested Scout]
My vote for 800D...
@d3p5kor, u said we can convertfront usb 2.0to 3.0 through an extension cable, how?
Corsair 800D is one of the worse (not worst) air cooling cases out there. The HAF-X beats it on air and even level 10GT may be better (not the original overpriced level 10).However for watercooling it is a good choice.
However, the guy to whom I replied recommended a P-IPS panel, which is not the same as S-IPS.
Hey Vicks I just noticed your post. TFS
Thanks for he PSU upgrade, I just put the lowest cost branded PSU
. Then try to add 2Ghz (Cl10 or lower) memory on Llano setup.
I was astonished by the guru3d article
I am not endorsing this build, or buying this myself
It came to me as the Best Value for Money, which the Mid range gaming segment demands, people can make the most out of their budget by going for this build, which of-course can be improved
And over the heating issue
Cheaper MB's which support cf are available but I selected this particular as there is a lot of space between the two cards avail in this Motherboard
Does this qualify as a suggestion?
One also saves 2.2k over the 6950
@ Jaskanwar Singh
Agreed that 6950 1gb is enough for 1080p gaming currently
But if one can get something better performing than 6950 and that too at a lower cost!!
Why not!?!
he meant 6770 crossfire
@GWL
i use 11.6. didnt knw 11.8 is also out
will update and post results soon.
11.7 is out & 11.8 Beta is out.
I beg to differ
@ Skud
HIS Radeon 6770 ICEQX Turbo Crossfire review
I don't understand why many people mock CF/SLI, seriously it no headache,
ONCE in a while a game gives problem with CF/SLI
Its only through CF/SLI you can unlock true VFM solutions
@JS
I am not suggesting to replace 6950, I only want to discuss it as an Alternative solution
In the end its the buyers choice
May be to play Metro and Crysis 2 DX11, among others at fullest.
, that gave a serious grin on ma face
Off for a day. We've had enough HD 6950 vs GTX 560 Ti wars and seen enough posts of people calling someone a fanboy.
.
,"kiss my arse" ]
^^ yep, HD6770 has twin Frozr ( MSI R6770 Twin Frozr II/OC ) version as well
Look at me. My first post was "help me build a gaming PC". I have stuck on till now and still posttrollactively
There are many more like me.
, aiming for the dozer is going to test my patience
indeed, even my very 1st post was on the similar track, tough i haven't bought anything yet
Tough its highly unlikely anyone buying the exact same config mentioned in this guide it will mainly act as a pathway/idea, needs and budgets differ.
Feedback tough, is essential to keep any community/forum running.
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the hawk price is in kolkata, not India
and also we dont have any online reference to suggest buyers.
wait for G1.Killers for z68. (sniper V2 has only 2 pcie slots). and i will put 2600k.
Maximus doesnt have space left to put sound card when 3 6970 are put
Jaskanwar Singh said:
My rig design included multi-monitor(god will become insolvent over it lol).
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Never have an idea that monitors can be used as speaker stands also.
Only central speakersNever have an idea that monitors can be used as speaker stands also.
Damn you Jas. I had to do some hunting to find the thread
After that I cant even reopen the post so that I can copy-paste it
How to make God an insolvent(although its an invalid statement, because "He" doesnt exist)-
| Core Components |
CPU |Intel Xeon X5690 x2 | $1663 x2
MOBO | EVGA Clasified SR-2 |$599.99
RAM |Corsair CMTX7 x6 |$499 x6
GPU |Zotac AMP!2 GTX 580 3GB x4 | $549.99 x4
PSU |Silverstone ST1500 |$379.99
| Additional Compulsary Parts |
Case | Danger Den Double Wide LDR-29 Custom | $459.99
SSD #1 |Corsair Force GT 240GB x2 RAID 0 |$500-ish x2
SSD #2 |Crucial CT512M4SSD2CCA x4 RAID 0 | $800 x4
ODD |HP BD340i BD-RW Drive |$134.99
RAM Acc |Corsair AFPro x2 |$50 x2
| Cooling System |
CPU WB |EK Supreme HF Full Nickel x2 | $90 x2
GPU WB |EK FC580 GTX+ Acetal+Nickel x4 |$105 x4
MOBO WB |EK FB-SR2 Acetal+ Nickel | $140
Radiators 1 | HWLabs Black Ice GTX560 x3| $200 x3
Radiators 2 |HWLabs Black Ice GTX360 x2 |$120 x2
Pumps |Laing D5 Fixed Speed x4 | $84 x4
Fittings |EK PSC G1/4" 13mm Black x35 |$7 x34
Reservoir |EK Multi-option RES X2 400 Advanced| $60
Pump Acc |EK-D5 Dual Top x2 | $83 x2
GPU Acc 1 |EK-FC 580 GTX Backplate x4 |$30 x4
GPU Acc 2 |EK-FC Bridge QUAD Parallel |$30
Tubing |TYGON-3400-BK-1/2 40 feet | $3.39 x40
Fans 140mm | Bgears B-Blaster x24| $15 x24
Fans 120mm | Scythe Ultra Kaze DFS123812H-3000 x12| $12 x12
| Peripherals |
Monitor |Dell UltraSharp U3011 30" x3 |$1449.99 x3
Mouse |Logitech G700 |$75
Keyboard |Logitech G19 |$175
Speakers | Logitech Z906 | $350
Headphones |Sennheiser HD800 | $1400-ish
Microphone |Zalman Clip-on mic | $20-ish lol
UPS |Some good model over 2kVA | ???
Also, you can see that this setup has 512GB x4 + 240GB x2 of SSD whoop-ass. Gimme the cash to make this setup and I will post some benchies for ya
Hey Vicks I just noticed your post. TFS
Also,Jas, reduce the monitor on the Phenom II setup and add more RAM. any 30k+ setup should contain 4GB RAM now. Llano has weaker GPU and more RAM. why? Dont say onboard GPU becuse you added a dedicated one. Also , the onboard GPU doesnt use much RAM. Speed matters more here.
Another thing you could do to the 35k setup is that change the 6850 to a 6790(6830 if that exists) and add more RAM. Make the 6850 an optional upgrade.
In God's Rig #2 add another 580 3GB. In #1, remove the 6970s and add 2 6990s. make a #3 with 2 590s (when the 3GBx2 variants get released).
BTW EVGA will be releasing its Classified variants of the 570 and 580 in a month or so.
You missed the "OR"4 cards in a single PC?
Yes, corrected.
3x580(specially lightning) would be almost as fast as 2x590 or 2x6990 due to the fact that scaling beyond 3 cards is poor for both ATI and nVidia.
In a price no bar setup 4-way SLI/quad is the right way to go.
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for option 1.
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I can understand those reactions coming from eyes on face...Specially when you spend a lot just behind silly games in parents point of view.....Seriously for the same moment its a very much different feel...
I'm not sure, what the final outcome of this poll, but still suggesting to have 150k as Max..someway...
AMD Eyeinfinity with 6970 2GB CF.......
Component | Make | Price Processor |Intel Core i7 2600k|15900
CPU Cooler |Noctua NH-D14|4800
Motherboard |Asus P8Z68v Pro|13000
RAM |G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM|5400
Graphic Card |MSI R6970 2GB Lightning * 2 Crossfire|45000
SSD |OCZ 60GB Agility 3 SATA III[/B]| 7500
HDD |Seagate 1TB 7200.12|2500
DVD Writer | LG 22X SATA DVD|900
PSU |Corsair TX850 V2| 6800
Case |NZXT Phantom|8500
Monitor |Benq G2220HDL * 3 |7800*3
Mouse |Logitech G500|3500
Keyboard |Logitech G510|5000
Mouse Pad |Razer Goliathus Dragon Age II Edition|900
Sound Card |Asus Xonar DX 7.1|4200
Speakers |Logitech Z-506|4500
UPS | APC 1.1KVA |4300
| Total | 15600
Cost Reducing Components
Component | Make | Price Speakers |Creative T6100|3100 with no Sound card
GPU |MSI HD6950 Twin Frozer III/OC * 2|31000
Case |HAF922|7000
Mouse |Razer DeathAdder|2000
Keyboard |Logitech G110 / Razer Arctosa|3000/2000
Mouse Pad |Razer Goliathus Dragon Age II Edition|900
This way OP can drastically reduce budget margin, without losing much performance..
OPTIONAL Components
Component | Make | Price Monitor |DELL Ultrasharp U2311H * 3|42000
Tri - Monitor Stand |Triple Monitor Stand or Wallmount|8000 / 900*3
Speakers |Creative S750 7.1|30000+
Gamepad |MS X Box360 Wireless|2500
Steering |Logitech G27 Racing Wheel|24500
Lot of good gaming Accessories on Optional Part, based on individual choice.
A good Table to occupy these elite hungry monsters, will be good option....
Thats wat sarath is pointing at..
LOL...finally you realised. I would have missed your earlier post if it wasnt for mega
depskor exposed! lolBuddy, U missed a '0' in the TOTAL
for my stupidity & this one for Sarath, as he got my userid wrong...
^^ I was completed F*cked Up, when i edited that Config, so mistakes are pretty prone to happen. Anyway enjoy : lol
First and the foremost, which cabinet does he have?
He isnt an OCer...he is a wannabe who has messed up notions about PCs.
hey folks! i am an 3d game artist by profession and i need to upgrade my pc.i use to work in softwares like maya, 3ds max, zbrush etc and also i want to play latest games on my new machine.
i dont have much knowledge of computer hardware, with the help of google i have selected this configuration plzz take a look at it and give ur suggestions. My Budget is max 40k and i don't need a LCD because i already have one.
Intel Core i5-760 Processor (8M Cache, 2.80 GHz)
Asus P7H55 Motherboard
corsair 4*2 (8GB) 1333 MHz DDR3 RAM
Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200.12 SATA 3Gbs
Coolermaster eXtreme Power Plus 650W
Palit GeForce GT 430 1024MB DDR3 Graphic Card
"Cooler Master Elite RC 310 RC-310-RKN1-GP Mid Tower Computer Case"
LG Internal DVD Rewriter 24X - GH24
That's it and please suggest me a good ups for this configuration. some of my frnds telling me to go for a 1000va ups for this configuration but i cannot spend more than 2.5k on ups. your suggestions would be highly apreciated.
Thanks!
hey folks! i am an 3d game artist by profession and i need to upgrade my pc.i use to work in softwares like maya, 3ds max, zbrush etc and also i want to play latest games on my new machine.
i dont have much knowledge of computer hardware, with the help of google i have selected this configuration plzz take a look at it and give ur suggestions. My Budget is max 40k and i don't need a LCD because i already have one.
Intel Core i5-760 Processor (8M Cache, 2.80 GHz)
Asus P7H55 Motherboard
corsair 4*2 (8GB) 1333 MHz DDR3 RAM
Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200.12 SATA 3Gbs
Coolermaster eXtreme Power Plus 650W
Palit GeForce GT 430 1024MB DDR3 Graphic Card
"Cooler Master Elite RC 310 RC-310-RKN1-GP Mid Tower Computer Case"
LG Internal DVD Rewriter 24X - GH24
That's it and please suggest me a good ups for this configuration. some of my frnds telling me to go for a 1000va ups for this configuration but i cannot spend more than 2.5k on ups. your suggestions would be highly apreciated.
Thanks!
Zotac Geforce GTX 560 Ti 1GB GDDR5 @12.1K
Now we can expect price drop in MSI cards.
P.S. We need PC Buying Guide- September 2011.
^^ you have transformed it into a gaming rig rather than a HTPC which should capable of decoding HD movies very well and at the same time not so much power consuming device :
Here's my suggestion for a HTPC build
AMD Athlon II X2 255 @ 2.9k
Gigabyte GA-880GM-UD2H @ 4k
G-skill F3-10600CL9S-4GBNT@ 1.1k
Asus BW-12B1LT @ 7.4k
FSP Saga II 500W @ 2k
Silverstone GD04 HTPC Cabinet @ 5.2k
BenQ G2420HD @ 10k
Logitech MK320 @ 1.4k
Logitech Z-506 @ 5k
APC 600VA UPS @ 1.8k
look at this, isn't powercolor HD 6990 LCS so cool at load, amazing temp
Powercolor LCS HD 6990 4GB Review » Page 14 - Testing: Temperatures - Overclockers Club
look at this, isn't powercolor HD 6990 LCS so cool at load, amazing temp
Powercolor LCS HD 6990 4GB Review » Page 14 - Testing: Temperatures - Overclockers Club
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for 1600 Mhz get either P67 or Z68 mobo
alright mate
BTW, what's the price of WD 1TB green - if the prices are same we can go for Seagate 1TB 7200.12 drive for improved disk performance
check this out guys
Asus 9 Series BD mobo prices
Asus M5A97 @ 5.7k
Asus M5A97 PRO @ 6.8k
Asus M5A97 EVO @ 7.1k
Asus SABERTOTH 990FX @ 13k
Asus M5A99X EVO @ 10k
Suitable mobos for upcoming BullDozer configs
TP WDC green 1TB will be 2.7k
green will be power saver, what say? and i dont think we need high disk performance for movies?
very nice. time to update configs with these wherever possible
I can see price of some components remains same there for a prolonged period of time.
DiRT 3- Rally racing is back | Game Blog
oh i see what a tessellation heavy game is deus X -
Screenshots | [H]ard|OCP
1 fps difference in that scene
before jumping into any conclusion I would like to point out something :
GTX 560 Ti HAWK has strong Tessellation performance
*benchmarkreviews.com/images/reviews/video_cards/N560GTX-Ti-Hawk/Unigine_Heaven.jpg
from this review
now coming to 3DMark 11 benchmarks
MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti HAWK 3DMark 11 P4853 @ stock and P5108 when OCed with ~213W power consumption and 65C load temp @ stock speed and priced @ 14k at lynx-india
All benches based on guru3d
MSI R6950 Twin Frozr II OC 2 GB 3DMark 11 P4977 @ stock and P5758 when OCed with ~155W power consumption and 60C load temp and priced @ 14.8k at lynx-india
So which one is better and more future proof - share your views.
So if the difference would have been 10-15fps atleast , you would have been convinced its tess heavy right?
This is what optimization is all about. Read below carefully:
That's why the good performance and besides its based on unreal engine which isn't that much of a tasking engine.
6950 all the way.
*www.techpowerup.com/img/11-09-13/67a.jpg
Seeing the never ending ongoing battle between GTX 560 Ti vs. HD6950 my opinion is to keep GTX 560 Ti and HD6950 2GB Twin Frozr II / HD 6950 2GB Twin Frozr III PE both and put an end to this never ending battle - I think we don't need to baby feed everything in each and every config. Just let the customers decide what they want to between GTX 560 Ti and HD6950 and let's concentrate on other important things
As long as they are not showing in retail Intel can sleep in peace. In any case, they are already very very delayed. And Intel is almost ready with SNB-E with Ivy to follow. Looks like BD is becoming the "Duke Nukem Forever" of Hardware.
, for the amount of resources it uses, the game looks very nice.
Typo in Optional upgrades for 25k -
suggest some ways to reduce from 3d config.
thats real price of 6770
@ jas - but there's no GTX 560 Ti HAWK listed in 50k rig on previous page page or on the front page - there's only HD6950 2GB and HD6950 2GB TF3 PE
[Notice the space between cross and firing]; THQ passed the scaling issue with red faction to Volition, but later responded that the game did not support multi-GPU use )
One GTX570 or GTX580 will do the job. In 100K rig, one graphics card will suffice the need of most of the people. But if you want, you could mention GTX560 X2 or HD6870 X2.
Other reasons: Already explained nicely by the posters above me.
^^ Thanks a lot for the info - they are trying to make TFIII available to every HD6950 buyer
So MSI continues the tradition of using the shorter 6870-sized PCB for the 6950 1gb. Finally MSI website confirms there really exists 1gb version of 6950, that too TFIII!!!
For a single GPU config - going with a ASUS M5A88-M makes more sense IMO
Logitech MK200 is 0.7k and Instead of using Microtek 600VA we should suggest Numeric 600VA for 0.3k more.
For the 25k rig how about Asus M5A78L-M LX @ 2.6k
Why not 7 months back?
^^ simple- he will CF his current HD6950 1GB with a HD6950 1GB TFIII
^^ simple- he will CF his current HD6950 1GB with a HD6950 1GB TFIII
@ Jaskanwar Singh - mobos based on 760G+SB710 can support 125W TDP PII Hexa and quad core cpus but it all depends on the manufacturer.
For instance :
Gigabyte GA-MA78LMT-S2 has no supporting bios version for 125W Hexa core PII cpus and that's why they have written NA beside every Hexa core PII 125W cpus.
MSI 760GM-E51 and Biostar A780L3 Ver. 6.x supports AMD PII Hxa core 125W cpus with bios update.
Now coming to the Asus M5A78L-M LX which though does not supports AMD PII Hxa core 125W cpus but is the only cheapest AM3+ mobo in the market currently available in the market.
Now coming to the which 760G mobo to choose from all of these : People who buy such value based mobos do not usually use a 8-10k - most of them use cpus upto 5-6k with his kind of mobos. Now with the upcoming release of BD cpus current PII Hexa Cores will be more cheaper but BD cpus will have improved performance for sure compared to the current PII cpus - So a quad core BD cpu might outperform ( or be neck to neck ) a current gen P II hexa core cpus at the same price level and in the future current PII cpus will be EOLed and BD cpus will remain mainstream.
Our target PC using here a 760+710 mobo is for those who want to build a rig around 25k now - the Quad core Athlon II X4 will work with any 760G+710 mobo but if the user wants to upgrade later all he might found in the market will be BullDozer cpus and he/she can choose fom many BullDozer 95W cpu models - so it's better to suggest the Asus M5A78L-M LX which have AM3+ socket
@ Tenida - Nice find - most probably the cheapest Z68 mobo from Asus - but MSI and Gigabyte has 1k chepaer Z68 mobo than this
^^ great but it's available @ 8.9k
, DELL IN2030M - 6.9k
vickybat its not updated yet. you can see previous 50k there. compare it.
yeah. 6850 pe is now 10k. but 6970 lightning is 23k as before. and 560ti tfII is 15k!! even 580 tfII is touching 30k.
so i doubt 560 ti hawk to be 14k and 6950 pe to be 16k anymore.
what to do? please tell fast as i have to update front with new configs.
BTW MK200 at 700 is available at smc -
Logitech Media Combo MK200
UPDATE-
a new case - NZXT Source 220
NZXT :: Unique. Unprecendented. Inspired - May the Source 220 Be With You
NZXT :: Unique. Unprecendented. Inspired - Source 220 Product Detail
Maximum PC | NZXT Source 220: A $60 Brushed Aluminum Mid Tower Case? (Update -- Steel Case with Brushed Aluminum Finish)
ANOTHER THING-
even i5 2400 is 10.2k, and other processors are up. DELL ST2220L - 9.6K
this implies complete new rigs again???????
core i5 2400 can be still found for 9.5k here
Primeabgb offers a cool deal everyday
deltapage has a text only ( excel sheet ) version of their products which they update almost daily ( the update date is on the top of the page ) and the price is same there too - and cilus have also posted even lower price of core i5 2400 - so I think the price is correct and updated
but there prices according to 1st oct are still lower!
mentioning the source of price is a very good idea but what about the local prices - there's not everything available online and sometime the websites are not properly updated - that's why most of the online shopss will ask you to confirm the price through mail or phone before making the purchase - some of the major online shops are still miles away from the product/price/stock updating system used on newegg or amazon like websites
Hitachi is reliable HDD brand but availability is a major issue.
Keep NZXT Gamma.
Numeric 600VA UPS and Acer P206HQ/S200HQL is available on Delta Peripherals.
Zeb Bijli and LG DVD RW drive is available on local pc HW shops in Kolkata
Athlon Ii X4 635 is a bit hard to find in online shops but most local shops in major cities have at-least a uqad core Athlon II in stock fpr sure and they must be priced Under ~4.5k
ok so no links?
i think 311 will do better than gamma. it has routing holes like gamma and also supports cards of around 11" compared to around 10" of gamma as mentioned on websites?
i see lot of complaints about lg dvd. time to move to asus.
now tell me what to do of prices? front update is pending
Maximum PC | NZXT Chases Female Gamers with Pink Phantom Case
i meant smc prices buddy.
^^ ok ... got it bro
title changed
of-course we should update rigs with latest prices
The 6950 dirt3 newegg reviews seem excellent. Check it out.
Plus it has dual bios switch. Personally verified.
And mine stays at 71 in deus ex hr at default profile (56% at that load).
Note-currently dont ask me to tinker with the card
Deus Ex is a taxing game? The graphics sure don't look like that, I am yet to play it though, on the other hand Crysis 2 DX11/HdTex is taxing as hell.71c for a tasking game like deusX is ok at stock. And no, i will never push you to to tinker with the card. Yours is pretty powerful at stock and doesn't need overclocking.
Hey and please post some pics jas. Want to see your card.
71c for a tasking game like deusX is ok at stock. And no, i will never push you to to tinker with the card. Yours is pretty powerful at stock and doesn't need overclocking.
Hey and please post some pics jas. Want to see your card.
here's a revised 85k rig - well it went around ~86.6k though
Intel Core i5 2500k @ 11450
CM Hyper 212+ @ 1900
MSI Z68-GD55 @ 8700
Gskill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9S-4GBXL x 2 @ 3200
Sapphire 2x HD6950 1GB x 2 @ 26600
Seagate 500GB @ 2100
LG 22X SATA DVD @ 1100
Seasonic SS-850AT @ 6300
Lian Li Lancool K58W @ 4300
Asus ML238H @ 11000
Razer Cyclosa Gaming Bundle @ 2000
Razer Goliathus Fragged Omega S @ 500
APC 1.1KVA @ 4300
Altec Lancing VS4621 @ 3200
^^ the 85k config looks great but should not we opt for 8GB ram ( though there's no much real advantage going over 6GB for a gaming rig ) as ram modules still are cheap enough and 8GB will be more future proof.
Razer Cyclosa keyboard + Abyssus Mouse is around 2.2k now
Work down on the monitor, how about 8-9k Dell or BenQ monitors?
^The price has gone up again!
Perfectly balanced rig, give the ssd as an option.
almost of every component
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@all
please help to bring it near 20k -
Sub 20k (Best for office work,movies,downloading)
Component | Make | Price Processor |AMD Athlon II X2 250|2750
Motherboard |ASUS M5A78L-M LX|2750
RAM |G-skill F3-10600CL9S-2GBNT|750
HDD |Seagate 500GB 7200.12|2150
DVD Writer |ASUS 24X Sata Black DVD|1150
PSU |FSP Saga II 400W|1900
Case |Zebronics Bijli(w/o psu)|1200
Monitor |Acer P206HQ|5150
Keyboard & Mouse |Logitech MK100|500
UPS |Zebronics 600VA|1100
Speakers |Altec Lansing BXR1221|1000
| Total |20400
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how this looks like
I agree, sidewinder X4 is very VFM.^^ X4 should be a much better choice - mentioned the price only for reference
@ Jas - SeaSonic SS-850AT is 6.3k
Theitdepot - Seasonic 850W PowerSupply (SS-850AT)
so we can easily accommodate a Sidewinder X4 on 100k rig
here you go - it's rs. 10 less than 5k
Theitdepot - AMD Athlon II X4 640 3.0 GHz Processor
^^ thanx jas, that mobo is priced 10.5K at Kolkata
No idea of price, but if 210 is 2100, the 210 elite (only difference is one USB 3 port) can't be more than 2500. And then 220 should settle between 3000-3500.
Err, tg, its NZXT, not CM.
I think we will be taking a lot about these cabbies very soon.
where it's 2.1k ?? - it's 2.4k @ prime now.
thanks for the correction - edited my post
The price of NZXT Source 210 and NZXT Source 210 Elite is 2.4 and 2.9k respectively and there's some little difference between 210 Elite and 210 :
NZXT Source 210 Elite :
NZXT Source 210 :
so with 210 Elite you are getting 1 USB 3.0 port + One top 140mm fan + one additional fan mounting option at front just by paying 500 bucks more which makes NZXT Source 210 Elite more VFM option
We need to recalculate the config prices as HDD Prices has Increased :
Seagate 500GB @ 2.9k
Seagate 1TB @ 3.7k
Seagate 2TB @ 5.1k
these prices are from delta peripherals
Now a 500GB 7200.12RPM 16MB Cache Seagate Drive ( ST3500413AS ) costs $55 on newegg which is 2,751.35 INR and a Seagate 2TB 5900RPM Green HDD price ( ST2000DL003 ) is $100 on newegg which is 5,002.46 INR.
Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARS 2TB costs $120 on newegg which is 6,002.95 INR and Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB 64MB costs $125 on newegg which is 6,253.07 INR.
So it's not only rupee became weaker compared to dollar but HDD manufacturers also have increased the price of HDD - the best price is Seagate drives still costs less and looks like the best VFM option right now
The pc is quite good for office work but you could only play games that are 2 to 3 yrs old with good fps.For newer games you will have to play at lowest possible settings
yesterday and today its 4700
... i donno whats happenin.. is there any sign of price comin down?? 
prices are goin up like anythin here.... the price of 1tb barracuda has went up from 2700 to 3100
and this is the price from the cheapest retailer here....
if its on this hike i can neva buy my 45k pc in the near future
Report says that the Thailand floods will be taking its toll on HDDs in next year too. Got my upgrades in time.
-I think its perfect
The Cooler will definitely help if the person wants to OC a little bit
In the 120k should we include the SSD or give a card costing around Rs.40k for rendering?
AMD FirePro V7800
Or lets say make it optional instead of the current GPU?
I think the Seasonic X 850 should be able to handle it? What do you say?
IS a cooler like Noctua NH-U12P-SE2 necessary in 100k+ rig? I think it will be good
We need to recalculate the config prices as HDD Prices has Increased :
Seagate 500GB @ 2.9k
Seagate 1TB @ 3.7k
Seagate 2TB @ 5.1k
these prices are from delta peripherals
Now a 500GB 7200.12RPM 16MB Cache Seagate Drive ( ST3500413AS ) costs $55 on newegg which is 2,751.35 INR and a Seagate 2TB 5900RPM Green HDD price ( ST2000DL003 ) is $100 on newegg which is 5,002.46 INR.
Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARS 2TB costs $120 on newegg which is 6,002.95 INR and Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB 64MB costs $125 on newegg which is 6,253.07 INR.
So it's not only rupee became weaker compared to dollar but HDD manufacturers also have increased the price of HDD - the best price is Seagate drives still costs less and looks like the best VFM option right now
^ lol...no use as I think most guiz are pirates.
Those who'll be buying Windows and MS Office, would obviously keep a separate budget.
Personally, I use LibreOffice. It's free.
True 90 % in India will use pirated stuff so adding will not make sense.
OpenOffice.org for officeThere are better alternative for everything except MS Office & Windows.
Never seen a net cafe or school with genuine OS....
There are better alternatives for everything except MS Office.There are better alternative for everything except MS Office & Windows.
[OFFTOPIC}d3p5kor said:
^ lol...no use as I think most guiz are pirates.
Those who'll be buying Windows and MS Office, would obviously keep a separate budget.
Personally, I use LibreOffice. It's free.
Me too.
Looks like they are going to suffer a Bulldozer like delay with Kepler.
damn HDD prices
TheITWares - One Stop for all Gizmos!Internal Hard Drives
Internal Hard Drives
so i will need to make some rigs again
err whats there in 650Jaskanwar Singh said:
I dont think a fancy Keyboard-Mouse is needed. Rig looks perfectJaskanwar Singh said:
@ Jaskanwar Singhji: 1 TB HDD Price is 4.5K Now & 500 GB: 3.5 K now.
my friend today gone to lamington road he told me. 
I don't think they're updated price
This site lists a 2 TB HDD @3.8k
Western Digital 2TB SATA 3.5" Internal HDD - Model WD20EARS ― Lynx - The Audio , Electronics And Computer Online Shopping Store In India
another good price- Western Digital 1TB SATA 3.5" HDD Green Desktop - Model WD10EARS ― Lynx - The Audio , Electronics And Computer Online Shopping Store In India
Of course. HDDs for high end configs only.
Not atleast for next 3 months or so?jabber said:
but rigs will go out of budget then
@ Jaskanwar Singhji: 1 TB HDD Price is 4.5K Now & 500 GB: 3.5 K now.
Time for some LiveCD/pen drive based configs.
This is not AMD Bulldozer News and Discussion thread - posts of Extreme Gamer, Skud, d3p5kor, d6bmg and rajnusker moved into here with proper quotes
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/cpu-motherboards/135848-amd-bulldozer-news-discussion-35.html
discuss about BullDozer cpu here :
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/cpu-motherboards/135848-amd-bulldozer-news-discussion.html
post of rajatGod512 regarding OCZ PSu and answer by thetechfreak moved in here
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/power-supply-cabinets-mods/104472-basic-guide-right-power-supply-19.html
@ Jas - We should edit the rig configs with new HDD prices :
500GB HDDs are more than 3.5k and 1TB HDD has reached 6k (WD ) and 5k mark ( Seagate ) - check this out :
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/1516802-post4691.html
Its everywhere online. Visit any hardware or technology site. Or better, google it.
What the hell going on ?
Buy a PC Without HDD ????????????????????
Should have bought the Seagate Green 2tb when I was in Kolkata.
But its a good time to get rid of the junks in our HDDs.
HDD price hike turned our attention towards more efficient use of precious HDD space
But not for long...
I wonder what will be the amount of profit of those shops who stockpiled lots of HDDs.
never heard of such acronym for Bhubaneswar. 
Talking about HDDs, anybody wants this HDD?
Seagate Barracuda 3TB Review; A 1TB / Platter Monster is Unleashed
Seagate's 1TB / Platter Monster for just $180!
In 100K rig, you can add 500GB Hdd because those who are building 100K rig, should not have any problem in increasing the budget by 2-3K more.
To Save some cost we can go with these on 50k rig
Intel DH67VR @ 4.1k
Core i5 2320 @ 9.5k
Hope you finalise a final draft of the configs soon
waiting for it Jaskanwar
Darna Jaroori Hai:-
1TB hard drive price set to rise above £100 | KitGuru
Looks like we are in a bit better position as of now.
Edifer C2 is currently the recommended here, don't know whether they are available in Kolkata.
Logitech Z313, may be.
OT: Good to see you after a long time.
So gotta get a new 2.1 set in about say @2.5K max...
Can u give me some models to chew on? been outta touch lately
how about these
all images are courtesy of their original owner(s)*www.knowyourgadget.com/gallery/2011/05/iBuyPower-Erebus-375x375.jpg
*www.pdfusermanual.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ibuypower-gamer-extreme-966-gaming-desktop-pc.jpg
*www.gadgetfolder.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Mouse-Computer-G-Tune-Masterpiece-Gaming-Desktop.jpg
*www.gadgetgeek.in/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/compaq-presario-desktop.jpg
now make a choice
any source site?
@Tenida
I like the last one most
The SLI one probably wont go down well with CrossFire guys
^^ From where are you getting them??
(Just kidding) Its from google mate Hehehhe
in the 4th PC, is the PSU screwed to the outside?
thanks TP and Tenida. which to put?
^^ Off-topic: topgear, don't you sleep?
@ jaskanwar and everyone
Found a perfect card and in sli mode, it will prove to deliver a killer 3d experience.
Zotac Gtx 560-ti 2gb gddr5 is now available at lynx india at a price of 14.5k.
Pair two of these and the extra 2gb framebuffer will really handle higher resolutions and 3dvision like a breeze. Check here.
I guess its ideal for a 3d rig.
Post your comments guys.
first one on my post or third one on Tenida's post - or else if you have any personal preference you can go with that too
Yes he is 100 % sure price has came down, 2 tdf members has buyed it that price one in Delhi & one in Lamington Road. It's India arrey who has time to update it's website.
Great man
Waiting you to post in the first page soon
@topgear
You mean this?
Seagate 1 TB SATA Desktop 3.5" Internal HDD (1000 GB) - www.deltapage.com
Could not find a cheaper Seagate drive on the site or even on the price list page. Also this seems out of stock
@topgear
You mean this?
Seagate 1 TB SATA Desktop 3.5" Internal HDD (1000 GB) - www.deltapage.com
Could not find a cheaper Seagate drive on the site or even on the price list page. Also this seems out of stock
Yes he is 100 % sure price has came down, 2 tdf members has buyed it that price one in Delhi & one in Lamington Road. It's India arrey who has time to update it's website.
What monitor do you have ?
just expect SI. jan is not far.
no point of this thing now.
Nice mate. Great JobJaskanwar said:
Nice mate. Great Job
Looks like its got hidden among other twits in mine.
u mean by 2gb sli or a single 2gb would suffice....
In chennai, only at one shop...
Off-topic : I was surprised about that shop.. When i inquired about 6950, the shopkeeper said, "U need a good smps to power this GPU, which smps do u have?" I replied, CM silent pro M600.. Then he said "Oh, then it'll be fine"..
So what price did he quote?
I don't even see the point of so many "specialized" rigs on the main page. It'd be good if they could be streamlined.
^^ I know that. 1536/mb/gpu is enough for fullhd 3d atleast. Wrong
I just wanted to know about non-reference 590's but not able to find one yet. MARS II? Just kidding
Have you tried 3d with your 580 3gb sli? I guess they are perfect for 3d at any resolution. No, and I dont have any plans to do so. It is an immature technology that does more eye and brain damage than you know.
next year i do most my gaming on my ps3 at this time so please suggest i thought of amd a6-3650 or anthlon II x4 635
Go for it.
Do it in steps(G110 now & G500 a month later or so) u wont feel it heavy..
OK mate. I got it
]Need help
i have a 10 k budget & i have to repair my pc because the motherboard became faulty so please tell me a cpu-motherboard-ram-gpu combo in the budget i do lots of downloading and multimedia playback and less gaming. i don't want to exceed the budget because i want to buy a Alienware
I think i'm dreaming. Are flipkart guys out of their minds. That said, its really a must must buy as the card is really a beast.
Available in India? If yes, I'll buy one now. The best thing is, they are NOT huge.
Neither expensive and they pretty much pwn Corsair H80 for the price.
Don't think its available, but who knows? May be flipkart will bring the stock.
Amazon don't have this i was thinking of buying it.
Ask Extreme Gamer about purchasing from Amazon.
Another Gtx 560-ti 2gb gddr5 version & this time, its a twin frozr II.
This one is factory overclocked at 880mhz core clock while the zotac's were stock cards.
But price is very high @ 16.2k . Smc prices are higher these days.
Source
core i5 2500k - 11.6K*
You didnt ask "where here" before. But link:
Tirupati
This is the card I have but mine is the A1 variant (i.e. longer warranty).
Tirupati
Identical card (in the former the Crysis 2 sticker is just added on top) but no extras.
If yes, then address please.
Good, I'll give the green light then.
(exams)
I have used 4 tubes of older ones and 1 tube of newer ones, confirmed it with few people. Not possible unless the entire stuff is cost cutting garbage. MX-3 also isn't good from what I heard from good sources. Newer MX2s are more free-flowing and surpsingly has about 48 hour curing time (and still not good enough) for anything to justify Rs. 350 for this.Where did you hear about this?!
Probably a bad batch.
BTW MX-2 has always been a thin fluid, MX-3 was very viscous
I've found the MX-4 to be much better than my AS5/OCZ freeze/CM crap/MX-2.
Gskill?? No service in kolkata, and XMS3 are good but vengeance just looks cool
Only a select useless models, and also no service for Gskill rams not bought from them(bought from SMC/Acro).
You'll be surprised
PhysX can only be run on a nVidia card.
And this link may be helpful for understanding why no CPU PhysX, although the CPU used was a i7 920:-
This is Anant from Indore.. we met at Asus meet in bombay.. earlier i also thought it was on nvidia cards only...
.. Edited.
No, you can't run "PhysX" properly. Physics you can.
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Floods in Thailand. Many production units of Seagate & WD were there and are now not working.
Hey dude, nice to see you in TDF, how's the OC going?tkin - hey dude.. how r u??
and supposedly physx is also capable of running on cpu..
Skud - Experimentation is highly promoted sir!!
went thru that link almost a year back dudeeeeeeeeee...
Does BF3 use Havok? Cause BF3 physics were nice but nothing comes even close to matching Havok(from Red Faction Armageddon), intel havok will pretty much blow everything away(incl. that bulletphysics everyone's so hyped up about).No, you can't run "PhysX" properly. Physics you can.
here's what nVideahh does. Decides to use X87 for PhysX on GPU. CPU makers phased X87 out in favour of SSE 12 years ago. So, CPUs obviously run X87 code slow (+ nVidia forced to only run off a single core) and nVideahhh claims "OMFG OUR GPU PHYSICS I.E. NVIDEAHHH PHYSX RUNS SO PHASHHT ON OVAR CUDA ACCELERATED GHEE-PEE-YOUS
Then with PhysX SDK 3.0 (this year), they start supporting CPUs (+ multiple cores). Guess what, they use SSE instructions for running "PhysX" code on CPU. Why not use X87 again?
Battlefield 3's physics pwns pretty much everything without these marketing gimmicks.
I don't give two sh!ts about what non-sense the marketing of these companies says. As someone who prefers real standards over propreitary sh1te, I'd say let sense prevail over idiocity.
How're things with you??
My exams are up from friday and I'm posting here, guess how am I doing??^tkin - OCing is going fine... !!
tkin - hee hee... Best of luck dude!!!
@Anant, buddy how are you? Remember we also met over the Asus meet-up.
Cilus - did NOT see that... was half asleep already last night while posting...
I rmr all u guys but with ur real names not aliases...
im fine by the way.. howre u??
@Cilus - although i have a feeling ur suryasis - is that right??
Blame the economic situation, no one's interested in buying a PC atm, I guess.
Anyway, can anyone point me to any BD review with CFX?
BTW, if anybody's is thinking the unthinkable and actually planning to get a "high-end" BD, they can't get a better mobo than this at this price:-
Theitdepot - Asus Sabertooth 990FX 32GB DDR3 AMD Motherboard
Price is only 11390, and you get all the goodness of 990fx chipset.
I don't think that's correct - when you go to market you will see many are still buying pcs - if one needs a pc really then he have to get it no matter what
BTW, Great Find there on Asus 990FX Sabertooth - the price is just awesome but only IF we can get a BullDozer 8120 around ~10k
although lynx-india lists ceramique at 300/- they dont actually have it....
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skud thanks for info. i liked blue one most
That's a good APU and out of the box gives very good multimedia performance. Its got a potent gpu better than sandybridge gpu and the cpu is no slouch at all.
This cooler does some serious cooling:-
Phanteks PH-TC14PE Review - Overclockers Club
Comes in four different colors and better than Noctua NH-D14.
*www.overclockersclub.com/vimages/phanteks_ph_tc14pe/9.jpg
Image from Overclockers Club
Don't know if it will ever be available here.
This cooler does some serious cooling:-
Phanteks PH-TC14PE Review - Overclockers Club
Comes in four different colors and better than Noctua NH-D14.
*www.overclockersclub.com/vimages/phanteks_ph_tc14pe/9.jpg
Image from Overclockers Club
Don't know if it will ever be available here.
*i42.tinypic.com/290smz9.jpgBitfenix has arrived, who knows about future?
Not that one, I was thinking when it will be availible on popular stores.
For a really long time now, they also keep every NZXT cabinet imported in india, some tagan stuff, steelseries, skullcandy, JBL, soundmagic headphones and a lot more.
I thought VRMs and phases were interrelated? 8-phase VRM refers to 8-24 MOSFETs on the moobo.
umm...not sure how you summed up that number. Depends on what kind of MOSFETs and its amp you're referring to and depends how they made the board.
^^ ya I saw this & even surprised, surely it's bug
Intel Ivy Bridge 22nm Core i7 3770K (ES) Benchmarks Unveiled
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and maybe use a 2 gb 6950 from the saved money?
2500K is a good alternative to 2600k!!
Skud - Bad alternative..
I just dont understand how is AMD going backwards in performance rather than forward??
and what the heck were their engineers doing for the past 6 years??
You know the benchmarks... 1100T is faster than a higher clocked 6100... to beat that CPU they had to clock 6200 to 3.8GHz..
About 4100/6100 - I dont understand why they exist? 965 beats the 4100.. 1100T beats the 6100. Only 81x0 SKU's perform and that too only in environments where 8 threads can be used - workloads unlikely for any average and even some high end users!!...
I feel K10 is decidedly better than BD... better IPC vs BD and almost as good in mult-ithreaded environments...!!
Out of topic - u going for 2xCFX or 3xCFX?
Deserves a mention if you are buying for running virtual machines and you need AMD-Vi aka IOMMU aka PCI Passthrough.
. If Biostar makes a near ok board for stock usage and when it sells, they decrease the quality dramatically. On top of it, their quality control is a hit or miss. Much better off spending a bit more and getting a decent board overall.
GSkill RipjawsX DDR3-1600 8gb @ 2800 from Prime ABGB. Is the price good? With free shipping going on I might get one.
Buy Gskill RAM in India | Gkill RAM Specification | Gaming RAM
This is feel is a better idea. The Sandy bridge motherboard by ico should be posted there. And couple of threads explaining technologies like Cross fire , ips , etcCilus said:
And hope i can see some changes.