PC Configuration HELP

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans:GAMEs -COD MW3 , Battlefield 3 , COD black ops 2 ,
Watching 720p movies

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: 20k

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans:NO

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans:Windows 7

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans:Not required using old hardrive

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans:nope i have 17"Acer Max resolution 1440*900

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans:Monitor,Keyboard,Mouse Speakers,HARD DRIVE,DVD ROM,UPS,graphics card

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans:this month

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans:built before

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans

referably Online Local shops will do (Bangalore)

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans:i prefer an AMD system

Component Make Price
CPU AMD Phenom 960T 6960
Motherboard Gigabyte MGA-970A-UD3 6600
RAM G.Skill Value 4GB DDR3 1150
Case NZXT Source 210 Elite 2400
PSU SeaSonic S12II 520 3770
Total 20880

The board I mentioned support serious OC'ing. If you're not planning to OC, then get a cheaper 880 chipset based board.

If you think about Intel option, then here is my suggestion...

Processor i5 - 2320 10500
Motherboard Gigabyte H61M- 3250
RAM G-skill F3-10600CL9S-4GBNT(4Gx1) 1100
PSU Corsair CX 430 V2 2300
Case Zebronics Bijli(w/o psu) 1200
total 18350
Optional Intel - DH67BL 5200

@ Rigod
OP doesnt need a 520 W PSU.

RiGOD said:
Component Make Price
CPU AMD Phenom 960T 6960
Motherboard Gigabyte MGA-970A-UD3 6600
RAM G.Skill Value 4GB DDR3 1150
Case NZXT Source 210 Elite 2400
PSU SeaSonic S12II 520 3770
Total 20880

The board I mentioned support serious OC'ing. If you're not planning to OC, then get a cheaper 880 chipset based board.

Go with this. +1

I would prefer a case with usb 3.0 slots

Also i was thinking about buying the AMD FX 4100
I have read many bad reviews about it on the Internet but many people have said that its good for Mid range gaming PC
I could pair that with an ASUS M5A78L-M LX mobo
Is this a good combination

B

Try these-

processor-i5 2400..11k
mobo-gigabyte h61m..3.3k
ram-corsair value 4gb ddr3..1.2k
psu-corsair cx430..2.3k
caby-cm elite 430..2.6k

total -20400..

A balanced config for you with ur 6670..satisfies all ur needs..

Bodhisatwa said:
Try these-

processor-i5 2400..11k
mobo-gigabyte h61m..3.3k
ram-corsair value 4gb ddr3..1.2k
psu-corsair cx430..2.3k
caby-cm elite 430..2.6k

total -20400..

A balanced config for you with ur 6670..satisfies all ur needs..

+1^^^^^^

J

Forget about the fx4100. its crap(well,comparatively that is)

Thank you Everybody i will be finalizing the Config in 1 day
Thanks for all your valuable suggestions.

Guys my final rig
Processor-AMD 3 GHz AM3 Phenom II 960T Rs.6975
Mobo-Biostar A880GZ Rs.3450
Ram-G.Skill RipjawsX 2 GB RAM *2 Rs.1662
Cabinet-Cooler Master Elite 430 Black Mid Tower Cabinet Rs.3340
PSU-Cooler Master Extreme Power Plus 500W PSU Rs.3508

Total Rs.18917
Thank you all !!

You should have listened to the experts here. Is there any post here where people have suggested you CM Extreme series PSU? No. The reason is CM Extreme Series is known as Time bomb to reviewers and you have spent 3.3K for that.
Same goes for the Ram, you should go with a single 4 GB stick.

Carlon - -buy seasonic 520W its for about the same price and much much better..........

also check if that biostar- supports -dual power plane or not else youre gng to have a 960T at 800MHz...

CarlonSamuels said:
Guys my final rig
Processor-AMD 3 GHz AM3 Phenom II 960T Rs.6975
Mobo-Biostar A880GZ Rs.3450
Ram-G.Skill RipjawsX 2 GB RAM *2 Rs.1662
Cabinet-Cooler Master Elite 430 Black Mid Tower Cabinet Rs.3340
PSU-Cooler Master Extreme Power Plus 500W PSU Rs.3508

Total Rs.18917
Thank you all !!

Bold ones are bad choices.

Your mobo can't run 960T, seriously!
Due to lack of power phases

D6bmg, it is not like that. It can run easily 960T if it is not overclocked or moderately overclocked. 960T is a 95W CPU and the mobo does has support for 125W CPU.

But the choice of the PSU is really bad, considering OP has spent more than 3K over it.

B

for ram,buy corsair vengeance 4gb 1600mhz or gskill ripjaws x 4gb 1600mhz . . .both about 1.6k. ..
and avoid that mobo. . .
for psu,i think corsair cx430 would b enough fr you. .
and why buy a 4.3k caby when u can get cm 310 elite at a much less price!

Ok so i will be buying a 4GB stick of RAM suggest a different mobo under Rs.3500
I cant change the Cabinet its already been bought.
What about the CM Extreme Power plus i didn't understand (NEWBIE ALERT)

im pretty sure the Biostar A880GZ can run the phenom II perfectly.

^^Get the Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H. The PSU is just pathetic and you're putting your newly bought core components at a risk of getting blown off. Shell ot another couple of hundred bucks and grab the SeaSonic S12 II 520.

Flipkart: Corsair CMPSU-500CXV2UK 500 Watts PSU: Psu What about this one?
And are you seriously telling me i have to change the mobo and this will 100% not work with a stock Phenom II x4 960t

Reply asap

^^That's a good PSU, but this one is way better.

The current board is okay as long as you're not planning for heavy OC'ing.

RiGOD - 880GM-D2H > so 3 phase power supply to CPU core?? This is 1 board that atleast competes with Biostar A880GZ if it not outright beats it!!!

Carlon - buy the seasonic psu.... and up your budget for mobo.... u can think bout 78LMT-S2P rev 3.1 as ur cpu is 95W... although to be very honest this motherboard is just bad for that 960T. If you cant up ur budget for ur mobo u shud probably delay buying in my opinion..... unless ur ok with a 5second computer...

No no no Seasonic PSU is way above my budget
And as i have written above ill not be OC'ing at all so should i use this mobo
And anyway this is just a PC i expect to last about 1.5 years il be upgrading the whole thing after that

No icannot buy the Seasonic PSU
ill not be OC'ing at all
Should i use this mobo?
i only expect this rig to last 1.5 years ill be upgrading the whole thing after that

CarlonSamuels said:
And anyway this is just a PC i expect to last about 15 years il be upgrading the whole thing after that

The height of expectation.

RiGOD said:
The height of expectation.

haha bro small mistake it is 1.5 years

Carlon - buy Cooler Master GX 450 its better & cheaper than Corsair CX500 .... and is for 3.4k so in ur budget...

@mobo - should you use which mobo?

@ lionking
Who the hell are you . You are suggesting to get cooler master PSU.
@ OP
Listen to experts in this forum.
@ lionking and OP read this Thoroughly .
=> www.thinkdigit.com/forum/power-supp...89-power-supply-blacklist-thread-newbies.html

Sainatarajan said:
@ lionking
Who the hell are you . You are suggesting to get cooler master PSU.
@ OP
Listen to experts in this forum.
@ lionking and OP read this Thoroughly .
=> www.thinkdigit.com/forum/power-supp...89-power-supply-blacklist-thread-newbies.html

Please, before assaulting anybody over their recommendations, get your facts right first. Cooler Master Extreme Power series are blacklisted, not the GX series. The GX series has a great positive response from users all over the world.
Cooler Master GX450 and GX550 are OK, but above them we don't recommend anything.

Now seeing OP's requirements. He has an HD6670 lying around. This card does not require any external power from PSU. Now, judging by your configuration which RiGOD suggested, you will be great to go with a Corsair CX430V2. No need for 500W PSUs as your PC won't even utilise nearly 75% of the Power which can be delivered by it. Get Corsair CX430V2 for 2.4k.

Sainatarajan said:
@ lionking
Who the hell are you . You are suggesting to get cooler master PSU.

Ahem ahem. Next time when you contradict someone try to use fair language.

T

afaik CM GX450 is 80+ Bronze Certified and it comes with a 5 Year Warranty. So its a decent choice.

Yes that is all ok but please advice about the mobo will the Biostar A880GZ run the Phenom II x4 960t ?

Also temme whether it is sensible for me to buy an ATX mobo

Guys temme fast i have to finalize and buy
Corsair CMPSU-500CXV2UK PSU Rs.3623 (Sorry cant buy Seasonic)
Biostar A880GZ Rs.3450 (If you want me to change please give me valid reasons)
G.Skill RipjawsX 4 GB RAM Rs.1500 ||NOT CHANGING||
AMD Phenom II 960T Rs.6956 ||NOT CHANGING||
Cooler Master Elite 430 Black Mid Tower Cabinet Rs.3210 ||NOT CHANGING||

T

If you are not going to OC then go with it no issues. Also That board is not bad. You can do moderate OC on it also.

You are still going for the CX500 PSU? I already cleared the air in my last post that you do not need that much power. Save 1.4k and get CX430v2.

Ok bro thanks a lot than that is final. And i ok i will be buying the CX430 thank you guys

Guys still didn't buy last moment i got 10k extra,now budget is 30k max plz give new configs

Fast !!

Total Rs.30k

Get the HD6850 atleast. Save some bucks on the case and motherboard.

B

agreed wid rigod..

Yes now im going with Sapphire AMD/ATI HD 7750 1 GB GDDR5 Graphics Card | Graphics Card | Flipkart.com
no mobo change because that is the cheapest ATX mobo available
and yes im not finalised on buying that case will looks for cheaper alterantives.

B

Go for cm elite 310

i would like to but i seriously don't want to cut down the amazing looks in CM elite 430 but then again the CM series don't really have any Cable Management so i might go for a case like the NZXT Lexa S which i won't have to change in the long run and what about the GFX is it a good one

B

betr to go for 6850. .else kep 6770. .

no 6670 gave it to my cousin.{NOOB ALERT}are u telling me that the 6850 is better than the 7750?
Im on a tight budget bro
i don't think i can buy 6850
because this is for sub-7k and 6850 is for 10k is it worth it im a complete noob here plzz help

If yes i should buy a HD 6850 then which brand do yuo suggest?

B

I told 6770. . .nt a bad choice on a tight budget. .costs around 6.5k. . .6850 costs 9.5k. . .7750 is nt worth its price. ..

no ut my budget has increased no temme which of the three i should buy ie.6770,6850 or 7750 .And also specify which brand will be the best.

^^HD6850. Sapphire/MSI.

What about the 6790 its also in my budget

CarlonSamuels said:
What about the 6790 its also in my budget

Get 6850.

6850>6790.

Get 6850, much better choice as compared to 6790..

Bro 6850 is out of my budget im asking whether standalone 6790 is a good card or should i go with a 6770 or 7750

^^I'd say 6770. Of course the 6790 performs better, but consumes more power than the 6850.

CarlonSamuels said:
Bro 6850 is out of my budget im asking whether standalone 6790 is a good card or should i go with a 6770 or 7750

Then go for 7770. It is almost equivalent to 6850 with superior power consuming rate (lower) than that of 6850.

Yes thank you very much

d6bmg said:
Then go for 7750. It is almost equivalent to 6850 with superior power consuming rate (lower) than that of 6850.

You must have meant 7770 right? Coz 7750 falls in the league of 6770 and performs close to it, nowhere near 6850. Even the 7770 doesn't perform much better than 6850.

So final any changes required?

Additional NZXT Lexa S sub 4k

Or should i just go with a 6770

B

I would say 6770. . .spend d extra bucks on cpu. . .else keep d current cpu. . .

k ill go with the 6770

and the processor should i go with a 1075T they are almost the same price

B

Yup...

Note-600W PSU is for future upgrades

Component Make Price
CPU AMD Phenom II 960T 6960
Motherboard ASUS M5A88-M 5120
RAM G.Skill RipjawsX 4GB DDR3 1530
GPU MSI Radeon HD6850 8850
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B3ST 1135
HDD WD Caviar Blue 500 GB 4270
PSU SeaSonic S12 II 520 3770
Total 31635

>Compromise on the HDD if you wanna go for a 600w PSU. Get the GS series.

whats wrong with the 1075T ?
Otherwise amazing Config

I really wanna go with an ATX mobo because i am planning to crossfireX or SLI later
250 GB HDD is more than enough for me.can you suggest a config keeping this in mind and not crossing 31k

^^If you're seriously planning for a XFire then Biostar TA990FXE + HD6850 + SeaSonic SS-750JS is the one to go for.

Okay.

B

The 1075t config is perfect.

RiGOD said:
You must have meant 7770 right? Coz 7750 falls in the league of 6770 and performs close to it, nowhere near 6850. Even the 7770 doesn't perform much better than 6850.

Yeah, I was suggesting about HD7770. It was a typo.

Note-600W PSU is for future upgrades

Okay then im going with this config
If my budget allows i might go for a HD 6850

Although after going through some comparison list, I can see 6850 & 7770 are of same league. And sometimes 6850 beats 7770. Besides power consumption of 7770 is higher than 6850.
Considering this facts I'm forced to change my suggestion from HD7770 to HD6850.

@OP: Go with the last suggestion given by RiGOD. Just the right config for you.

Yes, I'm talking about this:

RiGOD said:
Component Make Price
CPU AMD Phenom II 960T 6960
Motherboard ASUS M5A88-M 5120
RAM G.Skill RipjawsX 4GB DDR3 1530
GPU MSI Radeon HD6850 8850
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B3ST 1135
HDD WD Caviar Blue 500 GB 4270
PSU SeaSonic S12 II 520 3770
Total 31635

If you can extend your budget by another 400/- buy Corsair GS600 @4.1K instead of Seasonic S12II 520.

CarlonSamuels said:
Component | Make | Price
Processor|AMD Phenom X6 1075T|Rs.7420
Motherboard|ASUS M5A97|Rs.6245
Graphics|ATI Radeon HD 6770|Rs.6678
RAM|G.Skill RipjawsX 4 GB|Rs.1662
PSU|Corsair CMPSU-600|Rs.4235
Optical Drive|Asus DRW-24B3ST |Rs.1135
HDD|WD Caviar Blue 250 GB |Rs.3753
|Total|Rs.31128

Note-600W PSU is for future upgrades

Okay then im going with this config
If my budget allows i might go for a HD 6850

I should remind you that HD 6770 is not a good gaming GPU.

Yes i know thats why i mentioned that i may buy a HD 6850 and as for the 6770 i wont be playing any games on HD or ultra so it should suffice
and about the processor should i go with the Phenom II X4 960T BE or Phenom X6 1075T

Because i might OC the 3 GHz processors to 3.3 or 3.5 GHz

So what would you suggest between a 6770 or 7750 ?
As i don't think ill be buying the HD 6850

V

originally posted by d6bmg
Besides power consumption of 7770 is higher than 6850.

NO.Power consumption of hd7770 is lower than hd6850 but hd6850 provides a bit better performance than hd7770.

Yes we can debate about it later please answer my query

V

As you are not going to overclock consider this

Extra cores would come handy in some heavily muti-threaded tasks,so go with 1075t.Both the processors have same base clock but max turbo clock of 1075t is 3.5GHz while its 3.4GHz for 960t.960t has a lower tdp of 95W whereas 1075t has a tdp of 125W.
Btw,you cannot go wrong with either of them.

hd7750 has lower power consumption but hd6770 offers a bit better performance.An overclocked 7750 would perform same or better than 6770 though.
So make your choice.

Okay then i will go with the 1075T and i think ill go with the 6770 Graphics OC it just a little bit and later on i can invest a 6850 or the 7000 series if and when my pocket allows

ANd guys i might be OC'ung the processor to about 3.6-3.8GHz could anyone suggest a good cooler >2k
I'm thinking about the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Cooler | Cooler | Flipkart.com

But flipkart doesn't say if its compatible with Phenom II X6 processors or with an AM3+ socket and idea if it will fit?

Actually on Flipkart no cooler suposedly supports X6 processor

1075T is a little bit better than 960T.
About cooler Hyper 212 EVO is the best choice as ~2K cooler.
Although I don't think you will need any aftermarket cooler either with 1075T or 960T. Stock coolers are good.

CarlonSamuels said:
So what would you suggest between a 6770 or 7750 ?
As i don't think ill be buying the HD 6850

Then? 7750 will get my vote.

^^At stock speeds an after market cooler is not necessary, but if you're thinking of OC'ing get one for sure, coz 960T comes with Athlon's cooler.

okay ill buy a 7750 then and im going with the 1075T so i wont buy an after market cooler

B

thats okay..

Before ordering these components my brother gave me another Config tell me if it give me greater performance than my AMD RiG

This or this

Bacause i have seen many reviews that say OC'ed 1075T performs better than i7

Only suggest the i5 rig if there will be a massive difference in the performance.
As the AMD RiG will give me more flexibility to upgrade the computer.

V

Well,talking about the i5 rig you posted,it is simply not a good idea to pair an unlocked processor with a h61 or h67 motherboard as you wont be overclock the processor.For overclocking i5 2500k you need a z68/z77 or p67 motherboard.

Now talking about the possible intel 2nd Gen i5 configs:
For overclocking:
i5 2500k + z77/z68/p67motherboard

If not overclocking:
(1)Recommended:i5 2400/i52320/i52500 + h67/h77 motherboard
(2)If on tight budget:i5 2400/i52320 + h61 motherboard

If you want to go with and i5 config and overclock then you have to get these at minimum:
1 i5 2500k :12.5k
2 biostar z68@7.2k /intel z68 @8k
3 cm hyper 212 evo cpu-cooler at 2.1k

If you have the extra money then get an i5 2500k config or else stick to the previous config.

Okay ill stick with the previous config and buy a HD 6850 rather than an 7750

CarlonSamuels said:
Before ordering these components my brother gave me another Config tell me if it give me greater performance than my AMD RiG

Component | Make | Price
Processor|Intel Core i5-2500k|Rs. 12879
Motherboard|Gigabyte GA-H61M-D2H|Rs. 3180
GFX|ATI Radeon HD 7750|Rs. 7791
HDD|Seagate Momentus 250 GB |Rs. 3591
Optical Drive|LG GH24NS71|Rs. 972
RAM|G.Skill RipjawsX 4 GB|Rs. 1662
PSU|Corsair CMPSU-600|Rs. 4325
| Total | Rs. 34310

Pairing 2500K with a cheap H61 makes no sense at all.

Thank you ill go with the AMD RiG then,i can later upgrade to 2nd Gen FX processor,that is,if they are good

^^With better IPC and power management features Piledriver series will perform better than FX series for sure.

Exactly Piledriver is a successor of the Bulldozer right?

A

Yes. Also look at the Gigabyte Ga-970-UD3 over the Asus motherboard since the gigabyte board has 8+2 phase vrm while the asus board has 4+2 phase vrm. Vrms are essential if you are overclocking.

Thanks Arjun but i will not be OC'ing more than 3.6 GHz and the Asus should suffice for me

A

Get the M5A88-M then.

I want an ATX mobo with Dual PCi-e x16 slots

A

M5A97 doesnt have dual pci x16. it has x16-x4

and the M5A97 is the cheapest AM3+ ATX mobo with UBS 3.0 ,SLI/CrossfireX support and 4 Memory Slots.

Nope it has 2 generation 2.0 PCIe x16 slots,my friend is using it to SLI two GT 520 's

T

CarlonSamuels said:
and the M5A97 is the cheapest AM3+ ATX mobo with UBS 3.0 ,SLI/CrossfireX support and 4 Memory Slots.

Nope it has 2 generation 2.0 PCIe x16 slots,my friend is using it to crossfire two GT 520 's

Crossfiring an Nvidia card ! WTH ! I'm sure you meant SLI. And he has SLIed gt 520, for what, watching HD movies, HUH ! SLI is good when you use 2 high end cards like gtx 680, gtx 670 or 2 mid range cards like gtx 560ti.
You should think over getting a good single gpu instead of a SLI setup with 2 entry level gpus.

Typo sorry i meant SLI

No i am not going to SLI two GT 520's i said my friend has done it.
I only said it because Arjun had said it does not have 2 PCIe x16 slots

T

I think you are talking about the M5A97 Pro motherboard. Because, AFAIK, M5A97 supports only xfire at x4 speeds.

ASUS M5A97 Motherboard | Motherboard | Flipkart.com

I am talking about this one Flpikart shows two PCie x16 slots but picture shows x4

yes x16 slot with x4 speed

T

It'll support Xfire only, no SLI. Go for gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 @ 6.6K. It has better feature set.

But mind it that the Gigabyte motherboard will also not support SLI, only CF.

Are there any limitations to performance if i CF with one x16 slot and one
x4 slots

Check this post. It should clear the air.

CarlonSamuels said:
Are there any limitations to performance if i CF with one x16 slot and one
x4 slots

Ya, you can. AMD Crossfire is supported @ X16-X4 setup but Nvidia SLI isn't. For that you need minimum X8-X8 configuration. So bare minimum is 990X chipset based AMD motherboards.

X16-x4 Imo is not worth it.

Then go for ASUS ROG series boards otherwise be gone with a single high performing card

CarlonSamuels said:
Are there any limitations to performance if i CF with one x16 slot and one
x4 slots

If you don't have plans to run corssfireX setup, then buy any board having 16X-8X slots.

Asrock 990FX Extreme 3 is available at 8.5K in Primeabgb. That one is a good option if you want to go for Multi-GPU setting.

No i will go with a Biostar TA990FXE which will give me two PCIe X16 slots