PC for Browsing and Movies for 40K

Hi Guys. Need your suggestions for a build for my friend’s parents.

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Browsing and Movie watching.

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: 40k

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: No

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Windows 10

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans:500GB or 1 TB

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: No. Have a Full HD monitor.

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: Monitor, Speakers, Keyboards and Mouse.

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: In a month.

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: Have not built before but will build on my own.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Bangalore. Open to Online shops.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: The motherboard must have a HDMI port and support 5.1 speakers. Also minimum 8GB of RAM. I thing a Ryzen 3 2200G build will be suitable. Please suggest.

Thanks

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AMD Ryzen 3 2200G-8.7k
Asus Prime B350M-A-6.6k
RAM-*mdcomputers.in/adata-xpg-spectrix-d40-8gb-ddr4-3000mhz-rgb-ax4u300038g16-srs.html -7.2k
WD blue 1TB-3k
Corsair CX450-3k
Corsair carbide series-3k *www.amazon.in/Corsair-Carbide-CC-9011050-WW-Mid-Tower-Gaming/dp/B00I6BJATW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1521727843&sr=8-1&keywords=computer+case&refinements=p_89:Corsair
WD 120GB SSD-3.3k(optional)

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Get Samsung 860 evo 250gb ssd for 6.1k from Buy Online SAMSUNG 860 EVO 2.5" 250GB 3D NAND Internal SATA SSD MZ-76E250BW In India best ssd for its price & warranty,nothing else comes closer.
Get asus prime B350M-Plus,overall better board than 350M-A & better for overclocking too because of VRM heatsinks which are missing in350M-A.
Suggestions for a mid-level gaming rig for 60k

Budget -37.4K

AMD Ryzen 3 2200G -8700,
MSI B350M-Pro VDH -6300,
Crucial Ballistix Elite 8GB DDR4 3000MHz -6,200
Corsair CX 450 -3500,
Antec GX200 -3000,
WD Caviar Blue 1TB -3500,
Samsung 860 EVo 250GB SSD -6200.
Total -37,400.

All prices are taken from mdcomputers.

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it looks like b350 prime plus price has increased I am seeing 9300 on peimeabgb and mdcomputers... This board used to cost ~7700.. So get it only at this price.. Vedant has it at 8k , if you are buying rig next month or so then directly go for b450 boards.. As they will run 2200g out of the box and have better ram support and other improvements.. With b350/a320 boards you need BIOS update so make sure you get that from seller itself otherwise 2200g won't work..

And if not overclocking and not going to put cpu under too much stress constantly an A320 boards might be ok as well saving you some cash.. But don't forget about BIOS update

gta5 said:
it looks like b350 prime plus price has increased I am seeing 9300 on peimeabgb and mdcomputers... This board used to cost ~7700.. So get it only at this price.. Vedant has it at 8k , if you are buying rig next month or so then directly go for b450 boards.. As they will run 2200g out of the box and have better ram support and other improvements.. With b350/a320 boards you need BIOS update so make sure you get that from seller itself otherwise 2200g won't work..

And if not overclocking and not going to put cpu under too much stress constantly an A320 boards might be ok as well saving you some cash.. But don't forget about BIOS update

Any idea of the starting price for B450 boards ? The system is for friend's parents. So no gaming and definitely no overclocking. I'm thinking of getting a A320 and get an SSD with the savings. How is this combo Buy Online | AMD Ryzen 3 2200G with Radeon Vega 8 Graphics + Asrock A320M Pro4 Motherboard | Price in India ? Also What is the price range are the A320 motherboards selling for ?

Minion said:
AMD Ryzen 3 2200G-8.7k
Asus Prime B350M-A-6.6k
RAM-*mdcomputers.in/adata-xpg-spectrix-d40-8gb-ddr4-3000mhz-rgb-ax4u300038g16-srs.html -7.2k
WD blue 1TB-3k
Corsair CX450-3k
Corsair carbide series-3k *www.amazon.in/Corsair-Carbide-CC-9011050-WW-Mid-Tower-Gaming/dp/B00I6BJATW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1521727843&sr=8-1&keywords=computer+case&refinements=p_89:Corsair
WD 120GB SSD-3.3k(optional)

Where are the prices from ?

whitestar_999 said:
Get Samsung 860 evo 250gb ssd for 6.1k from Buy Online SAMSUNG 860 EVO 2.5" 250GB 3D NAND Internal SATA SSD MZ-76E250BW In India best ssd for its price & warranty,nothing else comes closer.
Get asus prime B350M-Plus,overall better board than 350M-A & better for overclocking too because of VRM heatsinks which are missing in350M-A.
Suggestions for a mid-level gaming rig for 60k

That site is owned by Primeabgb right ? How are primeabgb ?I have Never bought from them .

Stormbringer said:
That site is owned by Primeabgb right ? How are primeabgb ?I have Never bought from them .

It's the best store and then comes the mdcomputers

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Stormbringer said:
That site is owned by Primeabgb right ? How are primeabgb ?I have Never bought from them .

Primeabgb(mumbai),mdcomputers(kolkata),vedantcomputer(kolkata),theitdepot(chennai) these all have some of the biggest pc parts ofline shops in their cities & are also authorized dealer of some big brands so you can buy from any of them.

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Stormbringer said:
Any idea of the starting price for B450 boards ? The system is for friend's parents. So no gaming and definitely no overclocking. I'm thinking of getting a A320 and get an SSD with the savings. How is this combo Buy Online | AMD Ryzen 3 2200G with Radeon Vega 8 Graphics + Asrock A320M Pro4 Motherboard | Price in India ? Also What is the price range are the A320 motherboards selling for ?

A320 boards cost ~ 4300
B450 will cost a few hundred more than current b350 ,

I prefer Gigabyte or Asus for good after sales

If it's for parents with browsing and watching movies as only purpose

Why not Pentium G4560 (Rs 4.5k) build then ? Will save you another 4k..

Try not to skimp on SSD however ..

gta5 said:
A320 boards cost ~ 4300
B450 will cost a few hundred more than current b350 ,

I prefer Gigabyte or Asus for good after sales

If it's for parents with browsing and watching movies as only purpose

Why not Pentium G4560 (Rs 4.5k) build then ? Will save you another 4k..

Try not to skimp on SSD however ..

Any particular A320 boards in mind ?

The PC will be for long term usage. Motherboard availability will be higher compared to Intel . Also G4560 lost a wee bit of performance due Spectre patches I believe.

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Performance loss on Intel 7th gen & later processors due to spectre patches is quite subjective & depends a lot on usage scenarios.For a typical browsing multimedia usage I don't think there is any apparent performance loss.

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Stormbringer said:
Where are the prices from ?

md computers

absolutely no need to spend 40k on such a use scenario. get the following
intel pentium g4560 - 4.6k
msi h110m pro-vh - 3.6k
Gskill/Corsair 4GB x 1DDR4 RAM -3.4K
WD blue 1TB-3k
Corsair CX450-3.3k
antec gx200 - 2.8k

total comes at around 20.7k . Save the remaining cash.

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^^SSD is must for much improved overall user experience so skipping on it is not recommended unless one is "absolutely short" on budget.

So I had word with my friend.He is fine with a Pentium G4560 build. Can you guys suggest a Gigabyte or Asus Motherboard. Since they are supposed to have better after sales service compared to MSI. Also 8GB RAM is a must. Please give model info too on the RAM,so I get the correct compatible ones.

^ I don't get it why do say that 8 gigs is must. :chinscratch:

I am using a decade old system. I had 3 gigs of DDR2, watching video on youtube, browsing, general home/office work was smooth. My 2 gig stick gone kaput, with 1GB I could still do pretty much every thing I did with 3 gigs of RAM.

Only time I feel I could use more RAM is when I use Bluestack.

nac said:
^ I don't get it why do say that 8 gigs is must.

I am using a decade old system. I had 3 gigs of DDR2, watching video on youtube, browsing, general home/office work was smooth. My 2 gig stick gone kaput, with 1GB I could still do pretty much every thing I did with 3 gigs of RAM.

Only time I feel I could use more RAM is when I use Bluestack.

My friend wants 8GB so I get them 8GB. Plus his parents use Google Chrome

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Stormbringer said:
So I had word with my friend.He is fine with a Pentium G4560 build. Can you guys suggest a Gigabyte or Asus Motherboard. Since they are supposed to have better after sales service compared to MSI. Also 8GB RAM is a must. Please give model info too on the RAM,so I get the correct compatible ones.

Don't forget samsung ssd & as for ram,unlike Ryzen system,Intel systems have much less issues with ram compatibility so get the cheapest ddr4 ram from corsair/kingston/transcend.

whitestar_999 said:
^^SSD is must for much improved overall user experience so skipping on it is not recommended unless one is "absolutely short" on budget.

yes it is. But my personal view is that under this context spending rs.6000 extra for an ssd is not a great idea! For simple uses like watching multi media content and browsing, a normal config is enough unless of-course one wants to open a 100 of browser tabs with several multi media content playing together etc. But in this case I doubt they would even utilize the full potential of a g4560! In any case they feel the PC is a bit slower than expected, they can always add an ssd later.

Stormbringer said:
So I had word with my friend.He is fine with a Pentium G4560 build. Can you guys suggest a Gigabyte or Asus Motherboard. Since they are supposed to have better after sales service compared to MSI. Also 8GB RAM is a must. Please give model info too on the RAM,so I get the correct compatible ones.

For the motherboard get Asus H110M-D for rs.4.5k .
ASUS MOTHERBOARD H110M-D (INTEL SOCKET 1151/6 GENERATION SERIES CPU/MAX 32GB DDR4-2133MHZ MEMORY)
for the ram, try this Buy Online | G.Skill Ripjaws V F4-2400C15S-8GVR DDR4 8GB Memory | Price in India
contact primeabgb for stock availability.

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rijinpk1 said:
yes it is. But my personal view is that under this context spending rs.6000 extra for an ssd is not a great idea! For simple uses like watching multi media content and browsing, a normal config is enough unless of-course one wants to open a 100 of browser tabs with several multi media content playing together etc. But in this case I doubt they would even utilize the full potential of a g4560! In any case they feel the PC is a bit slower than expected, they can always add an ssd later.

Please correct me if I am wrong but I don't think you have ever used a sdd(well me neither but I have seen enough on others' laptops). What you are describing(aka 100+ tabs with multi media content) is a heavy ram usage scenario & ssd won't help you there(& neither will processor).As for spending 6k extra here again you are not exactly correct.It is 3k extra because 3k is already spent on a 1TB hdd which really is not required for someone not using their system as a download station/data collection which is the case here.On the other hand this extra 3k will give you day & night difference in overall user experience(think of micromax lower end mobile vs iPhone).

whitestar_999 said:
What you are describing(aka 100+ tabs with multi media content) is a heavy ram usage scenario & ssd won't help you there(& neither will processor).As for spending 6k extra here again you are not exactly correct.It is 3k extra because 3k is already spent on a 1TB hdd which really is not required for someone not using their system as a download station/data collection which is the case here.On the other hand this extra 3k will give you day & night difference in overall user experience(think of micromax lower end mobile vs iPhone).

yes it is a high ram usage scenario. What I wanted to convey was that browser stores temporary internet files images,gifs,scripts etc on the hdd and if there are many tabs open and when one wants to open a previously opened tab, it is likely the browser will refresh itself by loading the temporary internet files. In such cases there could be some stuttering in a normal hdd on a webpage with lots of graphic content(and of-course ads). In such cases ssds will be good. but then again I doubt the usage scenario here.
Why 1TB hdd was suggested because it can store a large number of movies and that is one of the use case. If it is likely they don't want to store much number of movies, ssd could be a good option omitting the hdd.
@op is space isn't an issue, then get 860 evo.

rijinpk1 said:
For the motherboard get Asus H110M-D for rs.4.5k .
ASUS MOTHERBOARD H110M-D (INTEL SOCKET 1151/6 GENERATION SERIES CPU/MAX 32GB DDR4-2133MHZ MEMORY)
for the ram, try this Buy Online | G.Skill Ripjaws V F4-2400C15S-8GVR DDR4 8GB Memory | Price in India
contact primeabgb for stock availability.

Thanks. I hope the latest manufactured pieces come with updated BIOS. Any idea how is this Gigabyte - GA-B250M-DS3H motherboard?

For the user's usecase a higher capacity HDD is better. Will ask friend to get an SSD during Black Friday sales.

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B250 chipsets are better compared to H110 which are entry level plus B250 chipsets come with out of box support for 7th gen processors.If your friend is in US then I think he can easily adjust both ssd & hdd as prices their are cheaper compared to here even without sale.

whitestar_999 said:
B250 chipsets are better compared to H110 which are entry level plus B250 chipsets come with out of box support for 7th gen processors.If your friend is in US then I think he can easily adjust both ssd & hdd as prices their are cheaper compared to here even without sale.

Friend is in the US but his parents (who will be using the PC )are in Bangalore. He is not visiting India anytime soon. ASRock B250 MB are available for even cheaper price. But I am unaware of their After Sales Service .

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Don't go for ASRock if after sales service is important,stick to Asus or Gigabyte.

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There is gigabyte b250m d2v available for 4.7k or so.. But it has a dvi port .. Otherwise I think mdcomputers and others update the bios for you if you ask them... Confirm by mailing them .. Then get Asus h110m D

If your plan on buying next month , you can directly go with 8th gen pentium + board ... H310 boards have started appearing in a few countries so we might see them next month here with pentium and more 8th gen processors launch alongside

If you don't need lots of storage then go for Samsung 860 evo 250 gb

Otherwise go for a 1tb hdd + 120gb ssd combo

With samsung 250gb you get more performance and more warranty so it is more vfm.. But if you want to keep cost down you can go with 120gb for 2.8k or so with 1tb hdd

Ssds are back to decent prices again

I'll have to ask my friend if he wants to wait. I'll go with a 1TB HDD for now and then add the SSD after a couple of months. Also , an Optical drive is required since friend's dad still buys DVDs and CDs. I assume their existing still works and can be re-used. If it doesn't , will need a new one. Are LG drives still good these days ?

^^ LG should work well. Also check from asus and lite-on.

Stormbringer said:
I'll have to ask my friend if he wants to wait. I'll go with a 1TB HDD for now and then add the SSD after a couple of months. Also , an Optical drive is required since friend's dad still buys DVDs and CDs. I assume their existing still works and can be re-used. If it doesn't , will need a new one. Are LG drives still good these days ?

DVDs are obsolete. It would be better to move on to better storage options. Please ask his father to not depend on them.

Old habits die hard :emoji_older_man:

rijinpk1 said:
^^ LG should work well. Also check from asus and lite-on.

Noted