PC For Strict Gaming within 36k.

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1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans:As the title says,gaming and gaming alone.Which include- GTA IV with Icenhancer 2.1/forthcoming 2.5,Max Payne 3,Crysis 1 with mods(maybe 2 if it does not have origin),L.A.Noire,Shift 2 Unleashed,Mafia II,plus others like GTA 5.

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans:36 Thousand Rupees. No.

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans:Yes.Mildly at first until I can afford a better GPU(See config below.)

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans:Microsoft Windows 8 System builder 64-bit (Current).

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans:If possible,would like to swap the Hard drive from my current configuration of 500 GB internal and 1 TB external.Is it possible?

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans:No,I plan on using the monitor I currently have (HP with 1600x900 resolution.)

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans:Except for the Processor,Motherboard,RAM and PSU,everything (Not much is left

)--Mouse,Keyboard,Monitor,Speakers,Headset,Steering Wheel,Cabinet (Generic HP),Hard disk,GPU (AMD Radeon HD 6850).

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans:After about a week or if better deals are on the horizon,after March,when PC prices supposedly drop (?).

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans:No.Assembler.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans:Will buy online from COD Shops or from Nehru Place in Delhi.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: Proposed Configuration:
AMD FX 8350 @ 12507 (Flipkart)
Corsair XMS3 8GB DDR3 RAM x2 @ 5700 (Nehru place)
Corsair TX 850 V2 @ 8500 (Flipkart)
Gigabyte GA 880GM USB3L @5163 (Flipkart)
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO @2191 (Flipkart)
Total - 34061 (Plus I do not know the cost which it will take to get it assembled ).
-Will not upgrade for at least 3 years,even better 4 years.

The rig you've mentioned has many problems:

Corsair XMS3 8GB DDR3 RAM x2 @ 5700 (Nehru place) 16 GB is overkill for gaming, even 4 Gb is enough. Go for >4 GB only if you can afford and >=16 GB only when doing serious work (not gaming)
Corsair TX 850 V2 @ 8500 (Flipkart) 850 W PSU is mother of overkills for this config. A 600 W psu is also more than enough.

My suggesstion:

fx 8350 (11000)
Asus M5A97 (6900)
G.Skill sniper (prices of ripjawsX have increased. sniper is just ripjawsx with smaller heat spreader) 4 GB 1600 MHz (1700)
Corsair GS500 (4000)
Sapphire hd7850 (14000)

total: 37600

you can use your older HDD if it's a SATA drive.

M

I should have added -- I won't be upgrading at all in the next 3 years,except in the event something goes bad....,I already have 4 GB of DDR2 Ram and use/will use my PC for photo and Video editing ,but on very few instances,when the mood seizes me.

As for the PSU (haha,mother of overkills

),I know it's a bit over the top but I read that the more powerful a PSU is, (forgive me if it sounds stupid

),lesser are the chances of it BSOD-ing due to lack of power,which my current PC does...So,is the TX 750 a more sensible option?

And coming to the GPU,one thing is final,I want it to be more than 1GB in the VRAM department,for GTA IV with Ice runs out of VRAM in my Current config...an hd 7850 2Gb costs 16k,which is a bit of a turn off at the current moment.

Thanks for replying.

moltenskull said:
I should have added -- I won't be upgrading at all in the next 3 years,except in the event something goes bad....,I already have 4 GB of DDR2 Ram and use/will use my PC for photo and Video editing ,but on very few instances,when the mood seizes me. As for the PSU (haha,mother of overkills ),I know it's a bit over the top but I read that the more powerful a PSU is, (forgive me if it sounds stupid ),lesser are the chances of it BSOD-ing due to lack of power,which my current PC does...So,is the TX 750 a more sensible option?

And coming to the GPU,one thing is final,I want it to be more than 1GB in the VRAM department,for GTA IV with Ice runs out of VRAM in my Current config...an hd 7850 2Gb costs 16k,which is a bit of a turn off at the current moment. Thanks for replying.

The config I've mentioned (even with cpu overclocked to 5 GHz) will consuke about 420 W MAX, so a 500 W psu is more than sufficient.

You'r DDR2 ram is of no use in new motherboards, better keep it with you and sell it after 70-80 years to earn some grands

BSOD's may occur due to lack of power, but with a 500 W PSU (and that being Corsair), you are completely safe.

Asus HD7850 2 GB is available for 14k at mdcomputers. Don't let just afew ks spoil a good config, as you won't be upgrading for much time.

M

Alright alright,I get your drift.

Sorry for being a :noob:

about PSUs and well,about the rest of the config too

.And I did not mean that I would use the DDR2 RAM that I have currently...I meant that I already have 4GB and want something better than that which will last for some time to come...

chinscratch: do you think a museum will pay a good price for that DDR2 RAM within the next 70-80 years? :rofl:

)

Ok,so tone down the PSU?Check.But what is unchecked is the GPU,I have an HD 6850 and plan to upgrade when HD 8k series is launched for waiting at least two generations seems okay,(I think),but of course ,I am open to better suggestions.

If you Plan on getting a new GPU later then get this -
I5 3570K @ 14K
ASUS P8Z77 M PRO @ 10.5K Gskill RipJAWSx or Sniper 8 GB @ 3K
Corsair 650TX V2 @ 6k
Total @ 33.5k.
Save some cash now and get a Powerful GPU later when 8xxx Series Arrive ...
If you want you can get Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Evo @ 2k.

Sainatarajan said:
If you Plan on getting a new GPU later then get this -
I5 3570K @ 14K
ASUS P8Z77 M PRO @ 10.5K Gskill RipJAWSx or Sniper 8 GB @ 3K
Corsair 650TX V2 @ 6k
Total @ 33.5k.
Save some cash now and get a Powerful GPU later when 8xxx Series Arrive ...
If you want you can get Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Evo @ 2k.

I would suggest fx 8350. Seeing the trends in game engines, more and more newer games scale good on multiple cores. Also, a good z77 mobo would cost more. OP can get FX 8350 (it's not **** in gaming) and get a better gpu.

moltenskull said:
Alright alright,I get your drift. Sorry for being a about PSUs and well,about the rest of the config too .And I did not mean that I would use the DDR2 RAM that I have currently...I meant that I already have 4GB and want something better than that which will last for some time to come... chinscratch: do you think a museum will pay a good price for that DDR2 RAM within the next 70-80 years? )

Ok,so tone down the PSU?Check.But what is unchecked is the GPU,I have an HD 6850 and plan to upgrade when HD 8k series is launched for waiting at least two generations seems okay,(I think),but of course ,I am open to better suggestions.

> You can always add more ram later, it would be heavy on your pocket.

> IDK about 8xxxx series, but if you want to get a GOU now, then I've already mentioned hd7850 in the config.

> I dont think some museum will buy it, but an individual collector may buy it

I'm relying on it for my MSI 8400GS

harshilsharma63 said:
I would suggest fx 8350. Seeing the trends in game engines, more and more newer games scale good on multiple cores. Also, a good z77 mobo would cost more. OP can get FX 8350 (it's not **** in gaming) and get a better gpu.

> You can always add more ram later, it would be heavy on your pocket.

> IDK about 8xxxx series, but if you want to get a GOU now, then I've already mentioned hd7850 in the config.

> I dont think some museum will buy it, but an individual collector may buy it I'm relying on it for my MSI 8400GS

+1 for FX-8350. You'll save some money on CPU + Mobo with AMD for comparable perfromance, which can be used for upgrading your GPU later.

AMD stock cooler are much better and will support mild OC too.

moltenskull said:
1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans:As the title says,gaming and gaming alone.Which include- GTA IV with Icenhancer 2.1/forthcoming 2.5,Max Payne 3,Crysis 1 with mods(maybe 2 if it does not have origin),L.A.Noire,Shift 2 Unleashed,Mafia II,plus others like GTA 5.

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans:36 Thousand Rupees. No.

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans:Yes.Mildly at first until I can afford a better GPU(See config below.)

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans:Microsoft Windows 8 System builder 64-bit (Current).

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans:If possible,would like to swap the Hard drive from my current configuration of 500 GB internal and 1 TB external.Is it possible?

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans:No,I plan on using the monitor I currently have (HP with 1600x900 resolution.)

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans:Except for the Processor,Motherboard,RAM and PSU,everything (Not much is left )--Mouse,Keyboard,Monitor,Speakers,Headset,Steering Wheel,Cabinet (Generic HP),Hard disk,GPU (AMD Radeon HD 6850).

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans:After about a week or if better deals are on the horizon,after March,when PC prices supposedly drop (?).

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans:No.Assembler.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans:Will buy online from COD Shops or from Nehru Place in Delhi.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: Proposed Configuration:
AMD FX 8350 @ 12507 (Flipkart)
Corsair XMS3 8GB DDR3 RAM x2 @ 5700 (Nehru place)
Corsair TX 850 V2 @ 8500 (Flipkart)
Gigabyte GA 880GM USB3L @5163 (Flipkart)
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO @2191 (Flipkart)
Total - 34061 (Plus I do not know the cost which it will take to get it assembled ).
-Will not upgrade for at least 3 years,even better 4 years.

consider this config:

AMD FX 8350 -11000,
Corsair Vengeance 4GB 1600MHz -1500,
Corsair GS600 -4500,
Asus M5A97 R2.0 -6000,
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo -2200,
Asus HD7770 1GB -8000,
NZXT Source 210 Elite -2900.
TOTAL -36,100.

M

My new rig is finally assembled and breathing.It is as follows-

AMD FX 8350 Black Edition.
Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO.
Sapphire AMD Radeon HD 6850.
16 Gb G.Skill RipJawsX.
ASRock 970 Extreme 4.
Cooler Master HAF 912.
Corsair TX 850 V2UK.
Genius Speed Wheel 5.
Windows 8 System Builder 64 Bit.
500GB Seagate Internal HDD + 1TB External HDD.

Thanks for the help,everyone!

moltenskull said:
My new rig is finally assembled and breathing.It is as follows-

AMD FX 8350 Black Edition.
Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVo.
Sapphire AMD Radeon HD 6850.
16 Gb G.Skill RipJawsX.
ASRock 970 Extreme 4.
Cooler Master HAF 912.
Corsair TX 850 V2UK.
Genius Speed Wheel 5.
Windows 8 System Builder 64 Bit.
500GB Seagate Internal HDD + 1TB External HDD.

Thanks for the help,everyone!

> Why 16 GB ram?

> Why HD 6850?

> Why AsRock?

> Why TX850 v2?

:facepalm:

M

Hahaha Before you :facepalm:

,let me explain.

>-1) 16Gb RAM was something I was adamant on,because I had heard that GTA IV +ICEnhancer 2.1 + car packs needs as much RAM as you can lay your hands on.But I did not have enough to go for a new GPU for sufficient VRAM (read GTX 660 Ti,most probably),so RAM was cheaper.

>-2)I wrote earlier that I would go for the HD 8*** Series (Or GTX 760 for that matter) because I would at least wait for two Generations of GPUs before Upgrading.And that is what I am going to do.

>-3)Why Asrock is something that I can't answer because I do not have much experience in Motherboards.I just went for something that had Ok specifications and was Ok-ish in pricing.

>-4)TX 750 V2 was out of stock on Flipkart and I prefer that website.

Hope now you will not :facepalm:

.

I know the first point is Dumb.

moltenskull said:
Hahaha Before you ,let me explain.

>-1) 16Gb RAM was something I was adamant on,because I had heard that GTA IV +ICEnhancer 2.1 + car packs needs as much RAM as you can lay your hands on.But I did not have enough to go for a new GPU for sufficient VRAM (read GTX 660 Ti,most probably),so RAM was cheaper.

>-2)I wrote earlier that I would go for the HD 8*** Series (Or GTX 760 for that matter) because I would at least wait for two Generations of GPUs before Upgrading.And that is what I am going to do.

>-3)Why Asrock is something that I can't answer because I do not have much experience in Motherboards.I just went for something that had Ok specifications and was Ok-ish in pricing.

>-4)TX 750 V2 was out of stock on Flipkart and I prefer that website.

Hope now you will not .

I know the first point is Dumb.

You spend probably 7k for running GTA IV +ICEnhancer 2.1 + car packs? If you are theist, then god be with you.

M

I did write that GTA IV+ICe 2.1+car packs was going to be my first priority,but they are not my Only priority.I also wrote- ,I already have 4 GB of DDR2 Ram and use/will use my PC for photo and Video editing ,but on very few instances,when the mood seizes me. I do not want my system hanging due to lack of RAM,as I have been doing both quite frequently now and which my previous system was ,unfortunately doing on more than a couple of occasions.I was also going to try Crysis 1 with Mods and 2 maybe as well,with mods.Plus I also wrote-

-Will not upgrade for at least 3 years,even better 4 years.

I don't think 16Gb RAM will look out of place 2 years from now.

How much did you pay for hd 6850?

How much did you pay for hd 6850?

moltenskull said:
I did write that GTA IV+ICe 2.1+car packs was going to be my first priority,but they are not my Only priority.I also wrote- ,I already have 4 GB of DDR2 Ram and use/will use my PC for photo and Video editing ,but on very few instances,when the mood seizes me. I do not want my system hanging due to lack of RAM,as I have been doing both quite frequently now and which my previous system was ,unfortunately doing on more than a couple of occasions.I was also going to try Crysis 1 with Mods and 2 maybe as well,with mods.Plus I also wrote-

-Will not upgrade for at least 3 years,even better 4 years.

I don't think 16Gb RAM will look out of place 2 years from now.

Good luck.

M

rijinpk1,I had bought it in 2011 for around 10k.

If you did not buy HD 6850 now , its Okay. But 1 thing is that 16 GB RAM is completely waste for gaming whatever the game is......
8 GB would have been a perfect one. Congratz on your new build.

M

Thank you,Sainatrajan for congratulating me for my new build.

I understand that 16GB is excessive for gaming.My line of thinking while buying it was based on a comment in a tech article I had read.Even though I have forgotten where the article was from,but I do remember the exact words that said - '' 8GB seems to be the average for a PC gamer nowadays ''. I thought to myself - If 8 GB is required to play a game with mods at a constant 60FPS in the present time,maybe future games with mods would require more RAM.And since I was getting a product worth 9043 Rs. for 6783 Rs. from Flipkart,which is cheaper than Corsair Vengeance DDR3 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) PC RAM (CMZ8GX3M2A2133C11R) on Flipkart (6820 Rs.),I thought-Why Not?

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where in the world did you get that 16 gb ram for rs.6783? thats not possible

M

G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) PC RAM (F3-12800CL10D-16GBXL)

This is what I have currently got.From Flipkart. Why is it not possible?

I know it is showing Rs.9043 now.But I got it for Rs.6783.

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thats a steal buddy....congrats on ur new purchases and when u upgrade ur gpu with a 8xxx series card,I bet it would be a killer rig....cheers happy gaming

M

Thank you so much,Dikart4!

Cheers!

R

moltenskull said:
My new rig is finally assembled and breathing.It is as follows-

AMD FX 8350 Black Edition.
Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO.
Sapphire AMD Radeon HD 6850.
16 Gb G.Skill RipJawsX.
ASRock 970 Extreme 4.
Cooler Master HAF 912.
Corsair TX 850 V2UK.
Genius Speed Wheel 5.
Windows 8 System Builder 64 Bit.
500GB Seagate Internal HDD + 1TB External HDD.

Thanks for the help,everyone!

M

For Everyone who is :facepalm:

-ing -- What do I do with my PC now that I have bought it? Do I throw it out of the window ? Is that what you people want?

It is a good config with plenty to power killer graphic cards. Congrats on purchase, but motherboard should have been better. Also i suspect you will ever use half of that ram purchased.

M

Thanks a lot,rijinpk1!

I am planning on getting a better GPU ,but yes,I really had no idea about the Motherboard.What are the problems faced when using ASRock?My first computer (previous one) had a generic MSI Motherboard,so it really did not give me many options of exploring,tuning and tweaking.And I already wrote that 16GB RAM is excess and I acknowledge it.Anyway,thanks again for congratulating me for my new rig.

You will find difficulty in servicing mobo when required. Until then no problem ;-)

You will find difficulty in servicing mobo when required. Until then no problem ;-)

Risspartan117 said:

Instead of facepalming , try to suggest something or just wish OP on his new purchase.....

The After Sales Service of Asrock MOBO's is not that good.

R

Sainatarajan said:
The After Sales Service of Asrock MOBO's is not that good.

Thank you

harshilsharma63 said:
> Why 16 GB ram?

> Why HD 6850?

> Why AsRock?

> Why TX850 v2?

These are my reasons. I'm not trying to argue and since you've already made your PC, I congratulate you and wish you luck. But just try to invest in a good card soon.