PC World does not list Vista in top 100 products of the year

PC World today released their list of the top 100 products for the year 2007. The list being an annual feature by a highly reputed magazine, PC World, came as a shocker for Vista supporters as it did not mention Microsoft's most expensive desktop operating system, Windows Vista, in it.

The startling fact is that the list does include Apple Mac OS X 10.4 "Tiger" and Canonical Ubuntu 7.04 on 9th and 16th positions respectively. Both the products are considered by experts as close competitors of Microsoft Windows Vista.

The "Product of the Year" crown went to Google Apps Premier Edition, followed by Intel Core 2 Duo and Nintendo Wii on 2nd and 3rd spots respectively. Some other products worth mentioning at various positions are

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[b]Product				Rank[/b]

Parallels Desktop		6th
Adobe Premiere Elements 3	10th
Apple TV			11th
Apple iPod (80GB)		26th
Yahoo Mail Beta			27th
Google Gmail			31st
Google YouTube			34th
Mozilla Firefox 2		35th
Microsoft Office 2007		56th
Apple iTunes			61st
Adobe CS3			72nd
Meebo				74th
VMWare Player			77th
Apple MacBook Pro		82nd
ZoneAlarm IS Suite		85th
SanDisk Sansa Connect		86th
Windows Media Player 11		91st
Audacity			93rd

Source: The 100 Best Products of 2007
In Pictures: The Top 20 Products of the Year

I am Lovin it...

Rotfl :d

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

Thanks for a good time, eddie!

I never knew those PC World dudes knew their stuff the right way and I am really glad to know that Ubuntu has made such an impact. An open source operating system grabbing the sixteenth position in the face of stiff and hostile competition from a behemoth the size of Microsoft is absolutely refreshing stuff. Hope they keep improving by leaps and bounds!

I am thrilled to know my notebook made its way onto a list that does not feature any other computer.

Microsoft Office deserved a place, that's for sure. Parallels Desktop is an awesome product.

And then, of course, we have the king - Mac OS X itself. These guys know something is good when they see it.

The countdown for gx_saurav to jump into the thread with lame excuses begins now...

You are ready to listen just lame excuses? I am a step forward...I am waiting for some of them to come in and challenge the credibility of PC World. Now that would be really funny

Mozilla Firefox 2 at 35th Rank...

Certainly not justified from my view, this 2.0 has tons of Problem

really it doesnt serve most of the reason to swicthing to FF... eats a tons of RAM / Page File, slugish at times... the 1.5 showed us some real dreams where, 2.0 destroy all of those

Go GX... tell the world that PC World is a biased, unworthy, magazine in the pocket of Apple, Inc....[you see, we read your mind now.... you have become quite a bit predictable]

My, my! What do we have here! This guy seems to have made quite a reputation for himself.

aryayush said:
I am thrilled to know my notebook made its way onto a list that does not feature any other computer.

Correction: There are other computers on that list too, but I am still pretty jazzed up about seeing my (intelligent) choice on a top hundred list.

Oh, and I loved this one:
"Quick: Name a good Vista feature that goes beyond what's in Tiger. Yeah, we can't either."

:lol:

So true. I can't either...

Choto Cheeta said:
Mozilla Firefox 2 at 35th Rank...

The product is actually forcing web developers to stop tweaking their websites only for IE. It is forcing them to code according to standards. It is forcing Microsoft to "think" about their browser again. It brought actual competition in the world of Internet Browsers and made the world realise that browsers other than Internet Explorer do exist. Mozilla has been awarded the "World Information Society Award, 2007" because of Firefox...35th Rank is the least it should have got

2.0 destroy all of those

I wouldn't show you any more dreams but I can assure you that Mozilla people realise the problem and are working actively to solve them. They are doing some serious overhaul in performance area and things should improve with Firefox 3.

yeah....thats an opensource development program, and its sure here to get mature and brilliant every minute,
am sure fox 3 is gonna rock....

by the way am using fox 2 without any probs.

Indyan said:
ROFL
Even Audacity is there!

Ah...you noticed

I specifically put it there to highlight the severity of the Vista situation

Eddie said:
The product is actually forcing web developers to stop tweaking their websites only for IE. It is forcing them to code according to standards. It is forcing Microsoft to "think" about their browser again. It brought actual competition in the world of Internet Browsers and made the world realise that browsers other than Internet Explorer do exist.

the product which did all these are FF 1.5, certainly if FF 2.0 would have came to the market before 1.5, we wouldnt have seen so much of shifting users to FF

Eddie said:
I wouldn't show you any more dreams but I can assure you that Mozilla people realise the problem and are working actively to solve them. They are doing some serious overhaul in performance area and things should improve with Firefox 3.

U didnt,

and yes, it doesnt matter, whether its FF or IE or Opera is delivering, as to me i will use which works good with me, i am not bound to use a software which is not performing for me, so, yes offcourse, if 3.0 again gives the performance like 1.5

sure, i will make switch again

Indyan said:
Crap list. Fx v2 is there but not Opera

Yeah their v9 (Beta) was was on 49th position last year but they have not included it this year. I don't see why they should though. I mean most of the Opera releases this year were stability or bug fixes one...isn't it? (I could be wrong)

Yeah, Speed Dial does not count for much.

If they had released a native Cocoa version for the Mac, then we are talking significant changes. They should at least take a cue from Mozilla who is actively trying to listen to Mac users and change their browser according to demand. That is they way to go.

hmm.. so how we are gonna Call our Mr. Vista now :lol:

Indyan said:
Opera v9 was released on June 20, 2006. Firefox v2 was released on October 24, 2006.

Just an image -
*img57.imageshack.us/img57/3992/microsoftvistafp9.jpg

true

Waah!!! mazaa aa gaya . No Vista in the list. And I think the list is quite justified. Almost all products deserved their places.
Me too using FF 2.0 without any problems . Good to see many OSS there.

S

Quite a few of the products were released before 2007 right? Paint.NET, GMail, YouTube, Firefox v2, Picasa, Kaspersky AV, iTunes, WMP11, Audacity are a few software that were released in 2006 or before... How come they are present in the list? I think even a few hardware mentioned above were released before 2007, but I dont have time to check right now...

Even though I am a big fan of PC World mag, I think the listing is done poorly... Besides, we are not yet half way into the year, whats the point of this list?

Arun

Firefox is the best browser for you-know-what.

All I would say is that "This is absolute rubbish act from PCWORLD". Lol! Truly they have their clocks set wrong releasing reviews of 2007 even before the half-way mark of the year. :))

Moreover why is iTunes featuring in the list? iTunes is no different from the release 2006.

sakumar79 said:
Quite a few of the products were released before 2007 right?

The list is done from the middle of 2006 to 2007 and since the list is released in the year 2007...it is "for 2007". The logic is simple. They did the same last year as well...where they released the list in mid 2006 and called it "for 2006".

@mail2and: If fact, I don't know what. I'm serious.

S

Ok, eddie, so it is from mid 2006 to mid 2007... Now, tell me, if GMail was initiated in 2005, how come it figures in the list? In my list of software (Paint.NET, GMail, YouTube, Firefox v2, Picasa, Kaspersky AV, iTunes, WMP11, Audacity), many of these are pre-mid-2006. Youtube started in early 2006, Paint.Net and Audacity started in 2004, Kaspersky AV is ages old, and was popular more than a year ago. If you are going to talk about specific features that made it enter the top 100 list this year, there should be a mention of what feature it is... Therefore, I reiterate my statement that this list is badly made...

Arun

sakumar79 said:
Ok, eddie, so it is from mid 2006 to mid 2007...
..................
there should be a mention of what feature it is...

My dear friend...things improve between the period and that is what PC World recognizes. It is not about something being invented in that year...it is about how it evolved in that period and how it made people actually take a notice of it with some solid features. Also, if they start mentioning new features of every product then it will not be a list...it will be a thesis

S

You mean to say GMail started getting noticed only in mid 2006? And Audacity, Picasa, Kaspersky? Come on, these products are popular for more than a year now... May be Paint.NET and Youtube gained popularity recently, but the other products mentioned just above have been very popular for quite some time... Can you tell me what new features in the last year that Audacity, Kaspersky, Picasa, etc have brought that make it stand out from its previous version?

Arun

goobimama said:
@mail2and: If fact, I don't know what. I'm serious.

It's the other thing you love, apart from drinking.

sakumar79 said:
Can you tell me what new features in the last year that Audacity, Kaspersky, Picasa, etc have brought that make it stand out from its previous version?

1) Audacity
2) For Kaspersky: I could not get through virus.gr website because it is under maintenance or I would have linked you to their bi-annual tests showing Kaspersky's supremacy in Antivirus arena. It is the obvious choice from Antivirus field.
3) Google Picasa made its Linux version usable on the platform and Linux users could also use the excellent program. Also, I don't think there is any other cross-platform product in Picasa's category which is as good for doing what it does.

I have already said that explaining each and every program would become a thesis and not a list

~Phenom~ said:
Me too using FF 2.0 without any problems

Same here , Firefox working perfectly

mail2and said:
It's the other thing you love, apart from drinking.

I think I know exactly what he is talking about. But isn't Safari supposed to be the best one for that?

It's the other thing you love, apart from drinking.

You guys have tagged me as a drunk huh! WTF! I don't drink every day. Not every week. Just once in a while at a session or something... I'm a health freak. Have like a plate full of salad before my meal, drink at least four litres of water everyday and have a juice instead of a pepsi whenever possible...

And as for the other thing, I'm still not too sure to say it out loud. But hey! There's this feature in Safari that's totally not relevant to this topic. Its called Private browsing! It doesn't save cookies, sessions, and history links during that session!

goobimama said:
You guys have tagged me as a drunk huh! WTF! I don't drink every day. Not every week. Just once in a while at a session or something... I'm a health freak. Have like a plate full of salad before my meal, drink at least four litres of water everyday and have a juice instead of a pepsi whenever possible...

Yeah, we totally believe that dude. Absolutely.

goobimama said:
And as for the other thing, I'm still not too sure to say it out loud. But hey! There's this feature in Safari that's totally not relevant to this topic. Its called Private browsing! It doesn't save cookies, sessions, and history links during that session!

Umm... that's what I was talking about. mail2and knows about it though. He flaunted it once in one thread if my memory serves me well.

Fake Steve Jobs (FSJ):

PC World does me a solid

And lists OS X as #9 on its Top 100 list of the best products of 2007. This is PC World, mind you. Money quote: "Quick: Name a good Vista feature that goes beyond what's in Tiger. Yeah, we can't either." Much love, PC World. I take back all those bad things I said about you.

LOL! I love this guy. :lol:

goobimama said:
You guys have tagged me as a drunk huh! WTF! I don't drink every day. Not every week. Just once in a while at a session or something... I'm a health freak. Have like a plate full of salad before my meal, drink at least four litres of water everyday and have a juice instead of a pepsi whenever possible...

And as for the other thing, I'm still not too sure to say it out loud. But hey! There's this feature in Safari that's totally not relevant to this topic. Its called Private browsing! It doesn't save cookies, sessions, and history links during that session!

Yeah, but Safari is not cross platform.

That session does stretch a bit too long, doesn't it? :lol:

Off topic : Arya, u still didn't read my reply to your sig, did U

S

@Eddie:
1. Have you gone through the Audacity changelog? There is nothing special about the changes to warrant entry into the list... There are much better products for sound editing and being free is too thin a reason to make it into the list.
2. Sure, KAV is good, but it is not the best. There is no such thing as the best and if you look at av comparison sites, you will see that Avira, BitDefender, NOD32, etc.. offer similar and occasionally better performance compared to KAV... Now, if they had Check Point ZAISS (no. 85) at no.55 and KAV at 85, it would have atleast made some sense...
3. Picasa being made available for Linux is reason to enter the list? Picasa is a very ordinary (not excellent) photo organizer, with the only special feature about it being that it can export your photos to Picasaweb... There is no reason to send it into this list...

Heres another item... Youtube has been in the limelight for more than a year (see last years list if you want to confirm). So, what new features has it added? And if new features are not a criterion, then Opera should be in the list because it is definitely better than bare Firefox (after all, if we talk about Firefox, it should be the product Firefox by Mozilla and not including all its extensions... The extension feature is great and should be considered, but Firefox+extensions should not be considered).

One more rant: Did you notice the game in the list (not gaming console/rig/hardware).. Thats Guitar Hero 2 for you at no. 33... Now, this is mind-boggling... If the list had to include games, why not something better, like the Legend of Zelda or the Warcraft series? Last year also, it appears that its prequel Guitar Hero made it to the list as the only game... Could it be that the authors have certain preset notions?

@Aryayush: Not to start a flame war in here, but since you quote "Name a good Vista feature that goes beyond what's in Tiger. Yeah, we can't either"... Heres one for you: I can install Vista on any computer that I assemble as long it has the required System Specs and be within my legal rights... Tell me how to do that with the Mac. BTW, theres more that I can do with Vista than with Mac (though I use XP only right now), such as gaming, having variety of apps (both free and paid) of my choice (and dont start with parallels or crossover - they cost extra)...

Arun

sakumar, u got a point thre

1) To run Windows on Mac, you need to buy it for atleast Rs 4000 (XP Home)

2) To run it on parallel, you will need to buy Parallels or VMWare + Windows XP.