Please suggest a Mobile Phone in the range of 20K ?

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Hi Guys,

Looking for a Mobile Phone in the range of 20K dont know much about the processor that I need, but I can tell you guys about the features that it needs to have and they are 120Hz Display, Super Amoled Screen, 8GB of RAM, Good Camera to be able to shoot low light photos also decently. If it comes with a wireless charging nothing like it. Quad Speakers if Possible. Not too Bulky, light weight and good looking body

Any names that come to your mind on the top ?

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Please fill this questionnaire

*geek.digit.in/community/threads/questionnaire-for-mobile-phone-purchase-queries.134349/

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Prajyot said:
Please fill this questionnaire

*geek.digit.in/community/threads/questionnaire-for-mobile-phone-purchase-queries.134349/

Except for OS and Processor I have included almost all the information. I think that should be enough to get a recommendation.

vishk said:
Except for OS and Processor I have included almost all the information. I think that should be enough to get a recommendation.

Hey. The questionnaire helps members to understand your requirements easily and quickly since it's in a pre-defined format and maintains objectivity. Members don't have the time or patience to read paragraphs. So don't be surprised if you don't get much response when questionnaire is missing.

vishk said:
Except for OS and Processor I have included almost all the information. I think that should be enough to get a recommendation.

Get a phone which has custom rom and gcam support.

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SaiyanGoku said:
Get a phone which has custom rom and gcam support.

Like ? Any examples ?

Define light weight? Give a number, like under 180g or 200g, etc.

Realme 9 pro+ has the best cam in budget phones, was a great deal under 20k in last sale, might drop to close to 20k in any upcoming sale, like during Christmas/New Year, can't say for sure. Need some work with cleaning bloat & removing unnecessary notifications. Poor custom ROM support, not sure if you even need to worry about it, because many power users like me don't go into the hassle of rooting & custom ROMs these days. Costs 25k now.

Moto G82 5G is a good phone overall with no bloatware, but camera is not as good as 9 pro+. Is 20k now. If you are using an old inferior phone, this will be an upgrade for sure. Only problem is very slow android OS updates from Moto. Realme is faster than them.

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omega44-xt said:
Define light weight? Give a number, like under 180g or 200g, etc.

Realme 9 pro+ has the best cam in budget phones, was a great deal under 20k in last sale, might drop to close to 20k in any upcoming sale, like during Christmas/New Year, can't say for sure. Need some work with cleaning bloat & removing unnecessary notifications. Poor custom ROM support, not sure if you even need to worry about it, because many power users like me don't go into the hassle of rooting & custom ROMs these days. Costs 25k now.

Moto G82 5G is a good phone overall with no bloatware, but camera is not as good as 9 pro+. Is 20k now. If you are using an old inferior phone, this will be an upgrade for sure. Only problem is very slow android OS updates from Moto. Realme is faster than them.

Hey Thanks for the suggestion. One question does it makes sense to get into any OnePlus Phone series ? Lower end one's ?

vishk said:
Hey Thanks for the suggestion. One question does it makes sense to get into any OnePlus Phone series ? Lower end one's ?

No

OS has a lot of bugs as well. Oxygen OS is based off oppo's UI & oppo one is apparently more stable. So better off getting Realme or iQoo instead of Oneplus. IMO Samsung's One UI is the best UI but they don't have great value phones these days. Like M53 is expensive & need a bit lower price, 22k would be ok. A33 5G & A53 5G would have been ok if they had Dimensity 800 & 900 respectively instead of Exynos.

Source: My friend has OP 9 pro & father has OP Nord. Both upgraded OS to android 12 against my judgement. Have some random issues here & there, like UI crashing, then recovering, sometimes can't accept/reject incoming call, & some other small ones which randomly occur.

I think there will be a sale on friday.

On Samsung official website there are some upcoming offers.

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omega44-xt said:
No

OS has a lot of bugs as well. Oxygen OS is based off oppo's UI & oppo one is apparently more stable. So better off getting Realme or iQoo instead of Oneplus. IMO Samsung's One UI is the best UI but they don't have great value phones these days. Like M53 is expensive & need a bit lower price, 22k would be ok. A33 5G & A53 5G would have been ok if they had Dimensity 800 & 900 respectively instead of Exynos.

Source: My friend has OP 9 pro & father has OP Nord. Both upgraded OS to android 12 against my judgement. Have some random issues here & there, like UI crashing, then recovering, sometimes can't accept/reject incoming call, & some other small ones which randomly occur.

How about Redmi Note 11 Pro+ ?

vishk said:
How about Redmi Note 11 Pro+ ?

Will prefer Moto G82. Those 108MP cams aren't as great as the number suggests. Surely that Redmi charges very fast.

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omega44-xt said:
Will prefer Moto G82. Those 108MP cams aren't as great as the number suggests. Surely that Redmi charges very fast.

Exactly which one in Samsung were you suggesting ?

vishk said:
Exactly which one in Samsung were you suggesting ?

None

Read again, my suggestions were Realme 9 pro+ & Moto G82. Samsung ones are not that good + expensive, expensive wouldn't have been an issue if hardware was at least decent. M53 is ok if you really want Samsung, but instead of spending 25k on that, try to find old stock of A52s for 28k. You are going over budget for sure. Stay away from A33, M33 & A53 because of Exynos.

Samsung s20 fe is available at 30K on Amazon. what are your thoughts on this @omega44-xt

khalil1210 said:
Samsung s20 fe is available at 30K on Amazon. what are your thoughts on this @omega44-xt

Still a solid phone with 2nd best rear camera setup under 40k, most likely just behind 6a. It has a good telephoto cam as well, that too with OIS. Main cons are software updates (android 13 is last) & selfie cam.

Selfie cam is average for price, even some cheaper phones have a better one. Primary rear cam performs similar to iQoo 9 & slightly superior to OP 9 pro in low light when I compared. Compared to iQoo 9, other rear cams seemed better to me. OP 9 pro has superior ultrawide.

Performance is still great. Battery life is inferior to budget phones, I get 5hr SOT on a full day usage, mostly on WiFi, with some usage on 4G.

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omega44-xt said:
None

Read again, my suggestions were Realme 9 pro+ & Moto G82. Samsung ones are not that good + expensive, expensive wouldn't have been an issue if hardware was at least decent. M53 is ok if you really want Samsung, but instead of spending 25k on that, try to find old stock of A52s for 28k. You are going over budget for sure. Stay away from A33, M33 & A53 because of Exynos.

I just came back to report the Realme 9 Pro+ you suggested does not have 120HZ display where as the Samsung M53 has it. isn't that a game changer ?

vishk said:
I just came back to report the Realme 9 Pro+ you suggested does not have 120HZ display where as the Samsung M53 has it. isn't that a game changer ?

Get a G82 and be free from bloated UI (from Realme, Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, Oneplus). M53 is not worth it IMO.

Just Don't Buy Realme :neutral:

vishk said:
I just came back to report the Realme 9 Pro+ you suggested does not have 120HZ display where as the Samsung M53 has it. isn't that a game changer ?

Definitely no. 60Hz to 90Hz is a big jump, but 90Hz to 120Hz is not as big of a jump & so on. Also, jumping from 60Hz to 120Hz is a noticeable jump, but 120Hz to 240Hz is not.

This is because of response time, which is: 1 / refresh rate.
60Hz = 16.67ms
90Hz = 11.11 ms
120Hz = 8.33 ms

Unless you are already using 120/144Hz panel on phones, 90Hz or heck even 60Hz is fine for most people.

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James_Bond said:
Just Don't Buy Realme

And the reason being ?

vishk said:
And the reason being ?

UI & Functionalities

You Cannot Lock More Than 5 Apps
Only Clone Selected Apps Ex: Zomato, Swiggy, Whatsapp Etc. (Pre Defined By Realme)
App Lock Issue: If you locked an app by App Lock for example GPay - So if payment collect notification arrives, It'll not show, Only notification with lock icon and app type will show up, so you'll be notified that Gpay some notification but from who or for what nothing will show up, also if you click on it it'll take to you direct into app not that particular task. (I reported this to realme and found people already pissed off by this issue from past 2 years, reported and got nothing, mean no update) this happens on both case scenarios locked & unlocked phone both cases

Saying all this, because I purchased Realme X7 MAX 5G 12/256 to break Mi/Redmi Fever, and now stuck with all these issues, the issues I reported are not available in Redmi/Mi/Xiaomi Phones

James_Bond said:
UI & Functionalities

You Cannot Lock More Than 5 Apps

Only Clone Selected Apps Ex: Zomato, Swiggy, Whatsapp Etc. (Pre Defined By Realme)

App Lock Issue: If you locked an app by App Lock for example GPay - So if payment collect notification arrives, It'll not show, Only notification with lock icon and app type will show up, so you'll be notified that Gpay some notification but from who or for what nothing will show up, also if you click on it it'll take to you direct into app not that particular task. (I reported this to realme and found people already pissed off by this issue from past 2 years, reported and got nothing, mean no update) this happens on both case scenarios locked & unlocked phone both cases

1 is a feature limitation but stock android entirely lacks this feature. Samsung has a secure folder where you can just install whatever you want, but will be in a different space or kind of like user profile.

2 - ok-ish IMO

3 - GPay & many bank apps do ask for authorisation, including ability to use fingerprint. Don't see why they need to be used with app lock.

I use a 3rd party app for app lock as I don't want to keep apps in a separate space like secure folder. Try AppLock from SpSoft, has ads in free version. I use a custom DNS which actually makes some ad spots look blank (not as effective as methods used post rooting or running a VPN with adblocker).

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Exactly almost one and half years back when I had asked for suggestions on a budget phone almost in the same range with the same features, I was overwhelmingly suggested Redmi Note 10 Pro Max surprisingly none of you guys are ever saying a word about Redmi Note 11 Pro Plus ? is it not a good choice ? sleek body, 1200 NITS Peak Brightness (Almost what iPhone offer) 120 Hz Super Amoled Display. Comes with Android 11 out of the box but I am sure you can upgrade it ?

Can this phone not be amongst the shortlisted list of phones for me ?

vishk said:
Exactly almost one and half years back when I had asked for suggestions on a budget phone almost in the same range with the same features, I was overwhelmingly suggested Redmi Note 10 Pro Max surprisingly none of you guys are ever saying a word about Redmi Note 11 Pro Plus ? is it not a good choice ? sleek body, 1200 NITS Peak Brightness (Almost what iPhone offer) 120 Hz Super Amoled Display. Comes with Android 11 out of the box but I am sure you can upgrade it ?

Can this phone not be amongst the shortlisted list of phones for me ?

Xiaomi & Moto are considered worst among big companies for android updates. So a phone running android 11 out of box is not good. They give like 1 OS update to sub 20k phones, I think. Xiaomi provides MIUI updates w/o android OS bump up but is slow in terms of update release cycle.

So android 11 phone now, not so good. Xiaomi is many times not having the best VFM phone for a price segment, surely better than Samsung A series, oppo or vivo phones. Many times it is Realme, iQoo or Moto.

So I will stick to my recommendations. You can do your research & if you like that phone, buy it. Some people might want a super fast charging.

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omega44-xt said:
Xiaomi & Moto are considered worst among big companies for android updates. So a phone running android 11 out of box is not good. They give like 1 OS update to sub 20k phones, I think. Xiaomi provides MIUI updates w/o android OS bump up but is slow in terms of update release cycle.

So android 11 phone now, not so good. Xiaomi is many times not having the best VFM phone for a price segment, surely better than Samsung A series, oppo or vivo phones. Many times it is Realme, iQoo or Moto.

So I will stick to my recommendations. You can do your research & if you like that phone, buy it. Some people might want a super fast charging.

I have just checked with MI India for e.g. Redmi Note 11 Pro which out of the box comes only with Android 11 will get 2 years of Android Software Update.

I am really liking the Redmi Note 11 Pro Phone.

So it is only for the Android Software which Xiaomi does not offer for more years is the resson why you are not suggesting that model is it ?

vishk said:
I have just checked with MI India for e.g. Redmi Note 11 Pro which out of the box comes only with Android 11 will get 2 years of Android Software Update.

I am really like the Redmi Note 11 Pro Phone.

So it is only for the Android Software which Xiaomi does not offer for more years is the resson why you are not suggesting that model is it ?

Compare Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro+ 5G vs. Motorola Moto G82 vs. Realme 9 Pro+ - GSMArena.com

Compare specs. The only USP of Redmi is super fast charging, that's all. Cameras should stack up like Redmi ~ Moto < Realme (don't think 108MP means great camera). Performance is similar. Moto has advantage of stock android IMO, not bloatware or unnecessary nagwares via push notifications (stock is great for majority of users IMO). Other 2 run android 12 out of box & claim to give 2 OS updates as well. IP53 on Redmi is nice to have, but I'll prefer lighter & smaller phones, which other 2 are (usually such phones just save money by not getting it certified).

Again, as I mentioned earlier, if you need super fast charging, get that Redmi. But my recommendation still will be other two. Watch some youtube reviews as well, read reviews of GSMArena, they will soon have G82 review, that endurance number looks great.