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Plz help. (buying mp3 player)

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susmita.lisa
susmita.lisa Original post #1
Jan 8, 2008 at 1:14 PM
Any body help me here?
i hav rs.7000/-. any body tell me which mp3 player is best for me in over all conditon in my budget.
nvidia
nvidia #2
Jan 8, 2008 at 1:15 PM
Re: Plz help.

iPod is the best.
But if you can also consider other company players also:)

P.S. : This is in the wrong section. Next time you start a thread, please give a proper title to it.:)
enticer86
Jan 8, 2008 at 1:24 PM
Re: Plz help.

Well i got the iPod nano Video edition, 4GB; and I highly recommend that.
nvidia
nvidia #4
Jan 8, 2008 at 1:25 PM
Re: Plz help.

^^Hey how much did you pay for it?
ravi_9793
Jan 8, 2008 at 1:30 PM
Re: Plz help.

I think Microsoft Zune (flash one)..is still to come in India.
In that case U can buy ipod.
susmita.lisa
Jan 8, 2008 at 1:38 PM
Re: Plz help.

But i want better pic quality and sound in this price.is creative zen is good?:confused:
ravi_9793
Jan 8, 2008 at 1:44 PM
Re: Plz help.

But i want better pic quality and sound in this price.is creative zen is good?:confused:

I think creative ZEN is hard disk based MP3 player.....
Never buy a hard disk based player..always prefer a flash based player.
desiibond
Jan 8, 2008 at 2:14 PM
Try the following:

1) Creative Zen V Plus
2) Sandisk Sansa e280R
3) ipod nano

I prefer Creative Zen V Plus as it comes with voice recorder, FM and many other features that ipod nano does not have and there is no audible change in quality between ipod nano and zev V Plus.

If you are going to buy nano, make sure you are getting the 3rd gen which has a 2" widescreen for video playback.

I think creative ZEN is hard disk based MP3 player.....
Never buy a hard disk based player..always prefer a flash based player.

FYI, Creative has far better line up than Apple.

They have flash, HDD based models, widescreen HDD models and also an all new 32Gb flash based Creative Zen.

*us.creative.com/products/welcome.asp?category=213&WT.cg_n=Campaigns&WT.mc_id=8860

They have a line up of 12 different mp3 players from 40$ Creative Zen Stone to 350$ 32Gb flash based Creative Zen.
utsav
utsav #10
Jan 8, 2008 at 2:20 PM
I-pod 4gb.best u wil get at ur budget
kumarmohit
Jan 8, 2008 at 2:23 PM
@ ravi Creative Zen is a flash based player. Do not confuse it with the Zen Vision series. And it is a lot better than Nano.
nvidia
nvidia #13
Jan 8, 2008 at 2:29 PM
^^Cool! thanks @enticer86
The_Devil_Himself
Jan 8, 2008 at 2:41 PM
Re: Plz help.

I think creative ZEN is hard disk based MP3 player.....
Never buy a hard disk based player..always prefer a flash based player.

yea sure cos moving parts are damage prone,but flash based PMPs can have max.16gb,So if you want a higher capacity PMP then you will have to choose hard disk based.

Indiatimes is selling Zune version 1's 30gb at 8k with 1 year importers warranty(I wonder what is it).Best bang for buck in this price range.

iPods sucks at not having radio receiver whihc is IMO must in here.
enticer86
enticer86 #15
Jan 8, 2008 at 2:43 PM
^^Cool! thanks @enticer86

Thats ok buddy... If u are getting it imported pls tel ur relatives NOT TO DECLARE the iPod in the customs at US- u can save abt 7% of customs :-D
Also,one pair per person is exempt in Indian Customs Act too. Am saying this because my relatives paid Customs duty :-(
desiibond
desiibond #16
Jan 8, 2008 at 2:48 PM
Re: Plz help.

yea sure cos moving parts are damage prone,but flash based PMPs can have max.16gb,So if you want a higher capacity PMP then you will have to choose hard disk based.

Indiatimes is selling Zune version 1's 30gb at 8k with 1 year importers warranty(I wonder what is it).Best bang for buck in this price range.

iPods sucks at not having radio receiver whihc is IMO must in here.

^^^ 32Gb flash players are already out in the market. From sandisk can Creative.
The_Devil_Himself
Jan 8, 2008 at 2:56 PM
^^costs?Even 16gbs are damn costly.Thanks for the info though,dint know this.
keith_j_snyder2
Jan 8, 2008 at 3:35 PM
Hehe...Mp3 players are waste of money.....buy a good brand NOKIA, SE, MOTO etc. and put a 1 GB - 2 GB card and listen to ur favr8 music and enjoy ur cell phone!
The_Devil_Himself
Jan 8, 2008 at 3:38 PM
^^loo,you noob.I would rather get a iPod touch+nokia 1100+A sony dedicated camera instead of grossly overpriced N95.

Do you think the sound quality of any cell-phone even come close to PMPs?
desiibond
desiibond #20
Jan 8, 2008 at 4:00 PM
^^costs?Even 16gbs are damn costly.Thanks for the info though,dint know this.

nope. not any more.

Creative zen 32gb player costs $350, which means around 14k.
16Gb player costs around $199, which means around 8k, which is worth every penny
Though you can get an 80gig HDD version for $350, flash memory has it's own advantages like speed, life, ruggedness.

So, it's a worthy buy for $350. :)

but if you are getting it from US, the best deal will be

Archos 604/wifi

actual price is $450 but is available for $200 in some stores

4.3" wide touchscreen screen
30Gb HDD
Plays mp3/mp4/wma/wma drm/wav audio
plays avi, mpeg2/4, h.264, wmv video
wifi enabled
opera browser included
5hr video playback.
16 hr audio playback

Hehe...Mp3 players are waste of money.....buy a good brand NOKIA, SE, MOTO etc. and put a 1 GB - 2 GB card and listen to ur favr8 music and enjoy ur cell phone!

I think you cannot differenciate between the quality of playback. Feel sorry for you.
enticer86
enticer86 #21
Jan 8, 2008 at 5:08 PM
^^loo,you noob.I would rather get a iPod touch+nokia 1100+A sony dedicated camera instead of grossly overpriced N95.

Do you think the sound quality of any cell-phone even come close to PMPs?


I agree with you too...
Dunno how ppl can b so arrogant not to note the difference in sound quality!
desiibond
desiibond #22
Jan 8, 2008 at 5:22 PM
^^^Those are people who listen to music and not feel it. They even can't differenciate 64kbps quality audio and 256kbps quality audio. All that they can find is whether sound is coming or not, stereo or not. Can't blame them for this. Not everyone can feel the music.

I know a friend who can't differenciate between EP-630 and ipod stock earphones. He also cannot differenciate audio quality between ipod and w700i.
enticer86
enticer86 #23
Jan 8, 2008 at 5:40 PM
Bhai yaad mat dila, i keep telling myself to buy EP-630 but since the Planet M in next to Bajaj Capital, i end up investing in mutual funds :-(
desiibond
desiibond #24
Jan 8, 2008 at 6:13 PM
^^^haha. okay.
A
apacheman #26
Jan 9, 2008 at 2:49 AM
ipod touch
keith_j_snyder2
Jan 9, 2008 at 10:21 AM
^^loo,you noob.I would rather get a iPod touch+nokia 1100+A sony dedicated camera instead of grossly overpriced N95.

Do you think the sound quality of any cell-phone even come close to PMPs?

I was just messing but

Does N95 Comes in 8000/- or your so called I POD+N1100+Sony DEDICATED CAM!

I can wear thongs and move around the city if this comes in 8000/-.

nope. not any more.

Creative zen 32gb player costs $350, which means around 14k.
16Gb player costs around $199, which means around 8k, which is worth every penny
Though you can get an 80gig HDD version for $350, flash memory has it's own advantages like speed, life, ruggedness.

So, it's a worthy buy for $350. :)

but if you are getting it from US, the best deal will be

Archos 604/wifi

actual price is $450 but is available for $200 in some stores

4.3" wide touchscreen screen
30Gb HDD
Plays mp3/mp4/wma/wma drm/wav audio
plays avi, mpeg2/4, h.264, wmv video
wifi enabled
opera browser included
5hr video playback.
16 hr audio playback



I think you cannot differenciate between the quality of playback. Feel sorry for you.


Good for u to feel soory for others, really i appreciate the effort!

But have u ever listened to the BLUETOOTH headset from MOTOROLA? They sound awesome and the BOSE headphones with N95?




Though i understand that sound quality can't be compared but then also u can barely differentiate the sound quality of an I-Pod or a high end cell phone. The only thing that matters is headphone.
desiibond
desiibond #29
Jan 9, 2008 at 10:33 AM
LOL. You have to get a Bose headphone to get good sound in N95. hahaha.

So, you agree that you have to get a 29k phone (for 8gig space) and 10k headphones to make a cellphone sound like mp3 player.

For 40k, I can get

1) 32Gb Zen, flash based player from Creative. (Rs. 15k)
2) Canon IXUS 70 (Rs. 13k)
3) Motorokr E6 (Rs.11k)
4) Creative EP-630. (Rs. 1k)

And enjoy top notch music and video quality, amazing photos using IXUS, incredible smartphone and superb earphones.

On the other hand with N95, I get sluggish and fat cell phone with grossly overpriced headphones. Doesn't make sense. Still Creative Zen with EP-630 will sound better than a 10k headphone on N95.
ring_wraith
Jan 9, 2008 at 10:39 AM
If you can get the Zen, it pwns the ipod nano.
keith_j_snyder2
Jan 9, 2008 at 10:54 AM
LOL. You have to get a Bose headphone to get good sound in N95. hahaha.

So, you agree that you have to get a 29k phone (for 8gig space) and 10k headphones to make a cellphone sound like mp3 player.

For 40k, I can get

1) 32Gb Zen, flash based player from Creative. (Rs. 15k)
2) Canon IXUS 70 (Rs. 13k)
3) Motorokr E6 (Rs.11k)
4) Creative EP-630. (Rs. 1k)

And enjoy top notch music and video quality, amazing photos using IXUS, incredible smartphone and superb earphones.

On the other hand with N95, I get sluggish and fat cell phone with grossly overpriced headphones. Doesn't make sense. Still Creative Zen with EP-630 will sound better than a 10k headphone on N95.
have u read the first post? If not please read it below:


Any body help me here?
i hav rs.7000/-. any body tell me which mp3 player is best for me in over all conditon in my budget.

This conclude that the person needs an MP3 player for INR 7000, my bad is i mentioned INR 8000/- well sorry for that.

I gave the suggestion which was not for u! Urs was for 8000/- for an I-Pod, N1100 and a dedicated SONY DIGI CAM!

But it was for the sound quality not for price!

U can get a SE W200i and the cable comes with that has an attachment for any headphone so u can use an EP-630. This setup will cost 5100 for cell phone 1 GB card for 1100/- and EP-630 for 1000/-
Total = 7200/-!

Dude i have a I-POD 160 GB and a W200i and a cable from W200i, i hooked the cable with I-POD stock headphones and played the same song ripped at 128KBPS and barely there was a difference into their sound quality!
desiibond
desiibond #32
Jan 9, 2008 at 12:05 PM
^^^ That is why I felt sorry for you that you can't notice difference between a player with dedicated audio chip and a phone that can play music.

Either your ears can't feel the difference or the song that you selected is of worst quality. 128kbps doesn't mean that it's top notch.
keith_j_snyder2
Jan 9, 2008 at 12:14 PM
Well i don't think that 128 Kbps is a bad quality?
Though that might be a possibility that my ears are not god enough but that u can ask the Computer Empire guys because it took me 45 minutes to pick my ATP3 over Creative 4.1 and several other speakers!
desiibond
desiibond #34
Jan 9, 2008 at 12:22 PM
^^^ You gave the proof yourself. It takes 5 minutes to choose between ATP3 and creative 4.1.

clarity of any song depends on how you rip it and not by the bitrate. You can rip a song from cassette to 128kbps but the quality sucks.

moreover you get a cellphone with pathetic display with a gig card for 7k, music from which feels like too much low freq. sounds and say it's as good as ipod. How sad.

Music player's quality can be recognized by checking how balanced sound the player generate's and not how much bass the player sends out.

and because of the 7k budget, I recommended Zen V Plus which is a great player and is lot lot better than an ipod nano.
keith_j_snyder2
Jan 9, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Dude there is not much difference between these Mp3 players and the normal cell phone.
The actual difference will be if they are having a 5.1 or a 7.1 channel card which i guess no MP3 player has got.

Just try my option:
Use same song..ok choose ur quality 320Kbps and play it on I-POD or whatever and play it on Walkmam series Cell phone!
Then post ur reply!
Its easy to say some noob like me but try to be little practical!

Do this thing and also give it a try!
desiibond
desiibond #36
Jan 9, 2008 at 12:40 PM
^^^LOL.

Did I say that I never tested walkman phone?

I said that after checking the same song ,a 256kbps AAC quality audio ripped using iTunes and tried it on my ipod nano and on W700i.

W700i sucked when it came to giving balanced audio.

Song I tested:

Kylie Minogue : Ultimate Kylie disc 2 : Can't Get You Out of My Head.

now, for gods sake, stop saying that only difference is between 5.1 and 2.1 and not between DAP and Phone (that can just play music). Already got tired of hearing that.
keith_j_snyder2
Jan 9, 2008 at 12:48 PM
Have u used the same headphone with them?
desiibond
desiibond #38
Jan 9, 2008 at 1:24 PM
Yes. same headphones. Connected EP-630 to the W700i's headphone connector.
Please spare us. You can't find any difference in sound doesn't mean that others should not.

IMHO, W200i is the worst walkman phone that I ever saw. Pathetic display, pathetic headphones, pathetic sound quality. Forget about ipod or Zen. Motorola L7 looks, feels and works lot better than this bullshit phone.

You can't find difference between mp3 player and W200i.
It took 45 minutes for you to decide ATP3 or crappy 4.1 speakers.
Doesn't this feel anything to you. Please do not recommend anything related to audio to others. Coz you don't know how to find difference in quality of audio playback.

See,

In one of the thread running on philips players, one person said:

i got SA3xx series gogear video audio player 1gb...
sound quality is awesme...bundle it with ep630 n u wnt regret.
compared with ipod..ipod is a little more loud n treble is more..
still gogear is an excellent choice i love it..battery life is excellent.


Now that's called finding out the difference in music playback. So, please please please stop saying W200i and mp3 players produce same music quality.
keith_j_snyder2
Jan 9, 2008 at 2:21 PM
Pardon me DESIIBOND.
I appologize for my answer and questions.
All i was giving my suggestion, i didn't knew that i m gonna bruise someone that much that someone gonna get pains.
If i can do anything for u just say the word.
U are the sound GOD and i am a cheap A** speaker!
Anything u say shall be the final words!
If that makes u happy enough!!!
desiibond
desiibond #40
Jan 9, 2008 at 2:35 PM
Thanks. You finally got it right :)
royal
royal #41
Jan 9, 2008 at 3:36 PM
nobody mentioned iRiver :confused:
desiibond
desiibond #42
Jan 9, 2008 at 3:38 PM
^^^ yes. I never tried iRiver and used players from creative and apple. I felt Creative are the better ones and I suggested the same.

Not much brand mark in India for iRiver. That is why I think it didn't come in discussion.
royal
royal #43
Jan 9, 2008 at 3:42 PM
desiibond715021 said:
Not much brand mark in India for iRiver.

Yeah that's true, I guess. :( But it sure is an iPod killer. :rolleyes:

Even Cowon is good.
desiibond
desiibond #44
Jan 9, 2008 at 3:46 PM
Yes. there are much better players compared to ipod like Cowon, Archos, Toshiba Gigabeat, Creative. Lot more features, better music quality but only Creative has good support and product infra in India apart from Apple.

Reason for ipod's success is it's ease-of-use, itunes+ipod ecosystem and brand value.