[Preview + Feedback] Digit December 2007 Special Issue

Apologies for the delay.

This special issue costs Rs 200; don't listen to anyone who tells you otherwise.

The Magazines

Entertainment

The Homecoming Of HD
You can’t turn a corner without tripping over a “get your HDTV cheap” ad, but where’s the content? When do we see our saas-bahu serials in saree-pattern-identifying high definition?

The World’s Craziest Gadgets
Stuff that’ll make you do a double-take and go, “Wha....?”

Trimming The Flab
You compress movies like the dickens, but do you know which codec to use for what type of movie (yes, it matters)? Here’s all you need to know (and a little of what you didn’t, but we put it in anyway) about codecs and the effect they have on your movies

How To
Make Your Own Stop-motion Animation
Those awesome animations in Star Wars? That’s the work of stop-motion animators. If you want to get started on your own, all you need is a webcam, some patience and this handy guide!

Know More About
The Flash Plugin
99 per cent of the world’s wired population has it installed on their PCs, but few really know what makes it tick. Presenting the definitive guide for the YouTube / Flash game / animation junkie!

Tips & Tricks
Premiere Pro And Soundbooth CS3
If you create or edit multimedia content, you scarcely look beyond Adobe’s tools. If you’ve had trouble learning Premiere Pro, we’re here. Also featuring tips for Soundbooth CS3—the tool that takes you from bad sound to good sound in a flash!

Gaming

Let There Be 2008
If 2007 was the year of the gaming platform, 2008 promises to be the year of games (well, for now, anyway). Here’s what to expect on your PC / Xbox 360 / PS3 / Wii in the months that lie ahead!

Strategy Guide
Land more frags in Quake III, become a deadly force in Counter-Strike, race better in NFS: Most Wanted and master Portal

Reviews
Tread the path of good (or evil) in The Witcher, roll on exotic wheels in Project Gotham Racing 4, take on Dark Forces in Hellgate: London, put one through the goal posts in FIFA 08, solve a murder or three in CSI: Hard Evidence, and when you can’t take it any more, kick back for some healthy family fun with Fuzion Frenzy 2. It’s been a busy, busy month for our crack team of reviewers!

How To
Install Game Mods
If you’ve mastered your favourite game, perhaps it’s time to give it a new spin. Here’s how to install the best mods for Quake III, Doom 3, Unreal Tournament 2004, Half-Life 2 and Max Payne 2

Know More About
Gaming Engines
You keep hearing about the latest games being “based on the so-and-so engine,” but what does that mean? Here’s the dirt on what makes games tick—right from the AI to weather, sound and other graphical bells and whistles

Buyer’s Guide
You’ve thought about it, you planned it, you budgeted it, and now you’re finally building your own gaming rig? As is our tradition, we bring you all you need to know before you hit the market for your new graphics card and processing powerhouse

Computing

Go That Extra Mile
All you wanted to know about overclocking—but were afraid to ask. It’s not only about getting more juice from that machine—it’s also just for the sake of it!

Build your own PC
What computer configuration to opt for is an ever-present question with an ever-changing answer. Here are our recommendations for four types of machines, as things stand today in regards to availability and price

Workshop
ATI Catalyst Control Centre And NVIDIA nTune
Unleash hell with your red monster or turbo-charge your green devil

Plan For Retirement
The last thing you think about when you get a new computer is... what you’ll do with the old one! Let’s change that for you... there are several interesting possibilities. Create less e-waste, and also do yourself a favour by putting your retired machine to good use

Know More About
The Task Manager
You know [Ctrl] + [Alt] + [Delete] is special in Windows; it brings up the Task Manager. So what can you use it for?

How To
The USB Key
You can imagine the sheer convenience of being able to lock down a computer using just a USB drive. (It helps that USB drives are even just about the size of a large key.) So go ahead, make a USB lock-and-key for yours!

Personal Tech

Memoirs In Motion
For our annual handycam test, we’ve
decided on individual reviews of a chosen few. Now whether you want a camcorder for show-off value or because you want to pick up a new hobby—go ahead, choose one!

2020: A Love Story
Yet again, we look into the distant future, and see a lot of tech all around us—in the much-hyped
year 2020

Can I Play With Madness?
It could be on your mind right now: “All those media files on my hard disk—just when do I get round to organising them?” Well, there’s no really easy way, but we can give you some excellent pointers

The Inside Story
The workings of a mobile phone are a synergistic effort of several different kinds of components. Find out what’s going on under the keypad while you talk away

Tips & Tricks
We tell you what extra you can do with your Windows Mobile or Symbian S60 phone—tweak things, make everyday tasks easier, and generally take more control

How To
Make Your Own Flash Diffuser
You can control the lighting your camera’s flash provides, for when you’re shooting indoors—use a diffuser. It doesn’t cost anything to build, either. Get ready for better-lit photos!

Connect

Directions
A comprehensive search engine shootout would be highly desirable, but is, sadly, impossible. Here’s our look at how well the major three search engines perform—and also at what apart from these you might, or might not, consider

Child’s Play
You need to know about at least a few good online places where kids can really have fun—it’s not just about keeping them away from the bad places

Safety First
Time has taught us that there are too many, in fact way too many, people out there who don’t follow the basic precautions when it comes to getting online and being there for a while.
The bad news is that bad things can easily happen, and the good news is that it’s easy to prevent it. Find out what and how

Comfortable Control
So well, they aren’t glamorous, but you need to choose well. Here’s a mini-shootout of input devices—we’ve done much of the elimination work for you by choosing only those really worth considering if you want a hand-friendly computing experience

Know More About
Display Interfaces
Whether it’s because you own a device, or because someone comes to you for help, it’s good to know what goes where—in terms of connectors. Here’s about the newer-generation connectors for displays

30 Days With
Second Life
We’ve spoken quite a bit about the “game” called Second Life. Now one of us actually spent a few hours each day for a month in that removed-from-reality atmosphere—here’s the report

A full preview of the DVDs is too huge to post, so I'm attaching an Excel file to this post. If you're interested in only the highlights, visit www.thinkdigit.com.

T

Very good. Excellent work by providing all the issues of fast track in pdf format.

Xcellent wow nice

Where's this months fast track

?

^^what more do u expect for 200bucks.

Mag contents really good this time . DVD contents could have been better. Anyways , I will surely buy this months mag just for mag contents. Good Work Fatbeing.

R

Really good mag.dunno abt dvd coz im on opera mini.how many discs

Magazine contents look awesome.

really nice contents, i will buy as soon as the mag hits Stands

it would good if you attach contents in PNG/GIF format, so that it can be viewed in broswer itself.

Nice.........
But plz make delivery lille fast..last month I got on 13th .

Mag contents are awesome.DVD contents are not bad too..

gary4gar said:
really nice contents, i will buy as soon as the mag hits Stands

it would good if you attach contents in PNG/GIF format, so that it can be viewed in broswer itself.

It'd still be too huge. 5-sheet Excel workbooks tend to be that way

Very good. Excellent work!!!

*www.comments.zingerbugimages.com/Thanks/blue_heart_thanks.gif

for the EXCELLENT contents...

though no FT this month.. it rocks

Very Kool But Where r the movies which are the movies????
is there other dvd of movies??

wow!! the magazine content are simply awesome.can't wait to get my copy!

thanks fatbeing and company

R

excllent dvd contents too.how may discs are there 5?

it's been long since i've seen so many unknown apps on the disc.good work.
kaspersky's regurlar updates would be nice

Excellent

WTF , is it me or there'e nothing for linux except Ubuntu 7.10 in all those DVD's.

Regards,
ray

BTW, which are those 3 movies ?

Thanks.
Three Cheers for Team Digit.
Hip Hip Hurray!!!!!!!!

Gigacore said:
BTW, which are those 3 movies ?

Thats in Excel file. (Entertainment --> Video --> Movies)

Cactuses
Nosferatu
Reign of the fallen

correct me if i m wrong.

oh.. thanks

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 NVIDIA PureVideo Decoder Platinum

, thanks a million

hey is digit providing ubuntu cd editiono or dvd edition in december???????????

DVD

A

good mag and DVD contents especially mag pdf's and UBUNTU DVD...
Looking forward to buy

..
To be frank, i have never missed the december and june editions but last year i was bit disappointed

...

hey i thought UBUNTU DVD is paid version then how come digit giving it free...

I think digit is giving ubuntu cd edition in their digit dvd

Gigacore said:
oh.. thanks

u r Welcome

A

arunks said:
hey i thought UBUNTU DVD is paid version then how come digit giving it free...

I think digit is giving ubuntu cd edition in their digit dvd

^^No i don't think so..Because in the pdf it is specified UBUNTU 7.10(DVD)..
If it's CD, then it's really really bad

it is of £ 3.50 per dvd

*shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=117&osCsid=4bed7710bca618e1641bac4413434591

A

may be fatbeing should reply whether the UBUNTU provided is DVD or CD

....

^^all ubuntu distributions are free and will always be free.the above link you provided is for the people who want to pay for the costs of media and thats it.you can download dvd iso off net for free too.They ship free cds as dvds are costlier.

and its a ubuntu dvd digit is giving.

Excellent contents!! bothe mag and the DVDs. And those who are still complaining, what more can you ask for Rs 200?

@adi007: the ubuntu is in DVD.

Btw, how thick are the magazines?

ok u r right...

S

All Hail to dIGIT this time !

it RoCKS buddy !

Very Nice Edition for year ending
Keep things rocking in the next year

Looking forward for new trends set by digit..................

DVD Contents are above average. However, it really would be nice to know which are trial ware and which are pay and use.

A

Congratulations to team digit on their stupendous work, its a best issue in the history of digit, however media contents could have been better,

I hope some special should be there for new year issue also,

Thanks 4 that 40 GB!!!!!!!!!!

But Dont 4gt 2 give next month Age of Empires 3 Asian dynastics!!!!!!!!

A Special Issue in all terms.
Keep up the great work.
Mag contents as usual ROCK.
Thanks a ton.

A

I hope and wish that a proper care has been taken in replicating and packaging of media.

arunks said:
it is of £ 3.50 per dvd

*shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=117&osCsid=4bed7710bca618e1641bac4413434591

Ubuntu is free to everyone and Digit is providing DVD of that. What Canonical charges is for delivery and Media cost if you order a DVD or CD from them, that is.

Whoa! Virtually Every Antivirus, AntiSpyware, Drivers etc. DVD contents are quiet good though low on developer tools. VS 2008 Express Edition Final All in One DVD would have been of much more use. Anyways, Great content in both DVD and Mag.

Mogambo Khush Hua

does that excel file has all the dvd contents listed??????.....m nt able to c n e thing after ESSENTIALS.......

s3Prosavage said:
does that excel file has all the dvd contents listed??????.....m nt able to c n e thing after ESSENTIALS.......

All things are listed currently & is readable
though i have seen the file in open office

s3Prosavage said:
does that excel file has all the dvd contents listed??????.....m nt able to c n e thing after ESSENTIALS.......

Yup dude! Everything is listed. Each DVD's contents are listed on different tabs.

lolz i dint check da tabs....thx...........

The first time i opened the excel file in Openoffice it crashed.I read it after recovering it.
Good DVD content.
Just pop the DVD after fresh install & start installing.
All softwares in one place.
Thanks Digit.

H

looks good....

now when can i lay hands on my copy?

You impressed even MetalheadGautham, with a metal brain and lead heart who understands no human emotions at all.... concider yourself lucky

Questions:

how thick are the mags?
are the discs in boxes(cases)?
who sells you DL DVDs in India? Can I have some?

is that ubuntu the offitial edition or a customised one as asked for?
why only one distro and no dedicated linux DVD?

why don't the magazines have good looking covers?

MetalheadGautham said:
You impressed even MetalheadGautham, with a metal brain and lead heart who understands no human emotions at all.... concider yourself lucky

Questions:

how thick are the mags?
are the discs in boxes(cases)?
who sells you DL DVDs in India? Can I have some?
is that ubuntu the offitial edition or a customised one as asked for?
why only one distro and no dedicated linux DVD?
why don't the magazines have good looking covers?

1. 40 Pages each
2. No. Pouches.
3. I don't know, actually. All I do is scream, "I need DVDs!" and I get them.
4. The official edition. Even if we were to customise it, you'd end up with the same software, plus Opera.
5. Because.
6. It's a subjective matter. Some like it. You don't. I forgive you.

"I need DVDs!"

edit:^^your siggy stink man :: puke ::

FatBeing said:
1. 40 Pages each
2. No. Pouches.
3. I don't know, actually. All I do is scream, "I need DVDs!" and I get them.
4. The official edition. Even if we were to customise it, you'd end up with the same software, plus Opera.
5. Because.
6. It's a subjective matter. Some like it. You don't. I forgive you.

1. sweet
2. will do
3. thanks for the help

"I NEED DVDs"
4. atlease you could have added some good themes and codecs, mplayer, xine, java, flash player, etc(and opera)
5. samajh gaya

6. all past issues showed celebs, these show cartoons

you could have asked john abraham to pose with a joy for gaming... or sharukh with an N97, iPod for entertainment... dhoni with electronic gloves for personal tech... aishwarya rai with a asus lambourghini for computing... you get my idea...

This is not a too much impressive content.what about the 3 movies.i can just hope that they are not black and white. Who will really listen those free music. The only good thing is Ubuntu DVD. N Mags.

FatBeing said:
1. 40 Pages each
2. No. Pouches.
3. I don't know, actually. All I do is scream, "I need DVDs!" and I get them.
4. The official edition. Even if we were to customise it, you'd end up with the same software, plus Opera.
5. Because.
6. It's a subjective matter. Some like it. You don't. I forgive you.

1. Of which how many pages are ads?
2. Phew, looks like I would have to search the box or plastic pouch pouch or something myself

3. Screaming did not work for me

(so I towed my sorry ass to the shop to get discs)
4. You mean that it can play non open codeced stuff directly, like mp3s.
5. Agree
6. I like the covers.

Didn't read that XLS file of contents of December Mag, but the movies sucked though, never really heard of them !!!
No Anna Kournikova on Cover page this time toooo... disappointing !!

FatBeing said:
1. 40 Pages each
2. No. Pouches.
3. I don't know, actually. All I do is scream, "I need DVDs!" and I get them.
4. The official edition. Even if we were to customise it, you'd end up with the same software, plus Opera.
5. Because.
6. It's a subjective matter. Some like it. You don't. I forgive you.

1. That's cheating. How different is that from a 200 page magazine, which is the usual size of special issues?
2. Does screaming "I need DVD writer" works too?
6. I liked the covers. Better than John Abraham.

MetalheadGautham said:
...you could have asked john abraham to pose with a joy for gaming... or sharukh with an N97, iPod for entertainment... dhoni with electronic gloves for personal tech... aishwarya rai with a asus lambourghini for computing... you get my idea...

You gotta be kidding! This is art. And honestly, I love the covers, they look fabulous. This is way better than some bimbo model on the cover!

@blackpearl: Were you expecting 200 pages per magazine? :wink:

J

Will subscriber getting the same copy?

just 40 pages in each mag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.....even though i dont have n e dvd drive which means all da dvds r useless for me i was plannin to buy da special issue cuz of five mags....m really disappointed...m sure half of the 40 pages in each mag wud be filled by ads.....nw m nt goin to buy.....n those three movies suck!!!!!!

nw dont ban me!!!!!!!!! m jus statin da bitter truth.....

Superbbb.. Its gonna fun this time...

Thanks a lot..

Asfaq said:
@blackpearl: Were you expecting 200 pages per magazine?

No, but when you mentioned "magazines" it should atleast look, feel and even weight like one. They are more like mini magazines that are given away free with the main one. You told us half truth, trying to make us believe you are giving more.

But your little trick could easily backfire.

Let's look at it from a different angle. A 40 page magazine shouldn't cost more than Rs 15 (magazines like Outlook and India Today which are much thicker cost only Rs 10).
So 5 magazines @ Rs 15 costs Rs 75.
5 DVDs @ Rs 10 costs Rs 50.
Rs 50 + Rs 75 = Rs 125
You are selling to us Rs 125 worth of stuff at Rs 200!!

Instead, if you had given a 200 pg mag and 5 DVDs, people would have thought, "Wow!! for only Rs 75 more we are getting a magazine 70pages thicker and 4 extra DVDs! Give me my copy."

Conclusion: Bad marketing trick. :))

^^lol.

@blackbearl:will you please buy me 100 or so dlDVDs at Rs10\DVD?Please please please.

^^right on target. hehe.

blackpearl said:
5 DVDs @ Rs 10 costs Rs 50.
Rs 50 + Rs 75 = Rs 125
You are selling to us Rs 125 worth of stuff at Rs 200!!

Now this is a Special Joke about a Special Edition....
Blackpearl, I dont think that you have ever checked out the price of a DL DVD. A Blank, good, DL DVD costs more than 100 bucks.
So in short you are getting 5 DL DVDs + 40 GB of software + 5 Magazines for 200 bucks

^^U should just write either 5 DL DVDs or 40 GB of software. Its one and the same thing , isn't it ???

~Phenom~ said:
^^U should just write either 5 DL DVDs or 40 GB of software. Its one and the same thing , isn't it ???

Well, I have mentioned the price of blank DVDs as more than Rs.100/- each and Digit is giving 5 DL DVDs with around 40 GB of data on them,so, I just had to change one word in my sentence so that people understand it better, and here it goes:

"So in short you are getting 5 DL DVDs + 40 GB of software + 5 Magazines for 200 bucks"

to

"So in short you are getting 5 DL DVDs with 40 GB of software + 5 Magazines for 200 bucks"

R

Well, guys A BIG THANKS for the awesome December Magazine. Digit ROcks

Each mag is 40 to 50 pages with anywhere from 30 to 40 pages of pure content in each (ie. not counting ads).

Obviously we could have just made one rather thick 200+ page mag, but then it goes againt the theme we had in mind... eg.: If you're into gaming... read the gaming mag.

Each one is a collection of columns, articles, news, etc. based on that topic (Computing, Connect, Entertainment, Gaming, Personal Tech). Anyway, we want to know your opinions, but at least wait till you get the magazines and read them before offering your 2 cents

For those who don't have Excel / OpenOffice

DVD Contents

Computing

Bootable with Ubuntu 7.10 (DVD)

System Tools

Utilities
Ashampoo PowerUp XP Platinum 2
Ultimate Boot CD
NVIDIA PureVideo Decoder Platinum
DAEMON Tools Lite 4.10 X64
DAEMON Tools Lite 4.10 X86
PerfKit (Vista)
PerfKit (XP)
Process Explorer v11.04
Revo Uninstaller
Softlock USB 1.2
Stick 2.6.2.2
USB System Lock
Acronis True Image Home
AutoMate 6.2.2.0
CPUCooL 8.0.6
Diskeeper 2008 Administrator 12.0.757.0
EVEREST Ultimate Edition 4.20.1180 Beta
my.lock
PC System Tweak for Windows 1.2.0.2
Virtual Hard Drive Pro 2.0 Build 07090417

Desktop Enhancements
Fedora Transformation Pack 1.0
FlyakiteOSX
Stardock DeskScapes 1.02
Start++ 0.7.8
VistaMizer 2.0.0
Aston2 Menu Beta 3
NextSTART
SphereXP 1.1.626
WindowBlinds 6

Benchmarking
PCMark Vantage 1.0.0
Cinebench v10
Hotfix for 3DMark 06/05/03 and PCMark 05
PCMark 05
SiSoft Sandra Lite
3DMark 06 Basic
BurnInTest 5.3
PerformanceTest 6.1

Security

Antivirus
Avira AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic
BitDefender Antivirus 2008
eScan Internet Security Suite 9.0.742.1
Kaspersky Anti-Virus 7.0
McAfee VirusScan Plus with SiteAdvisor 2008
NOD32 Antivirus
Norton AntiVirus 2008
Panda Internet Security 2008

Anti-spyware
McAfee Internet Security Suite with SiteAdvisor 2008
Ad-Aware 2007
Hitman Pro 2.7 RC 2 Beta
Online-Armor 2.1.0.23
Sophos Anti-Rootkit 1.3.1
SpyCatcher Express 2007 4.5.2 build 51
Anti-Trojan Shield 2.1.0.14
Browser Hijack Recover 3.0
Spy Emergency 2007 4.0.335
Spy Sweeper 5.5.7.48
Trend Micro Anti-Spyware 3.5
XoftSpySE 4.33
ZoneAlarm Anti-Spyware 7.0.362.000

Firewalls
ZoneAlarm Security Suite 7
PC Tools Firewall Plus Free Edition 3.0.0.36
ZoneAlarm (Windows Vista) 7.1
FortKnox Personal Firewall 2007
Rising Firewall 2007 for Vista 19.28

Essentials

Recommended
.net Framework 2.0
µTorrent 1.7.5
Avast Home Edition 4.7
Avast Update
Comodo Free Firewall
Digit Software Archive 2006 Beta
DirectX Redistributable 9.0c November 2007
Foxit Reader
Free Download Manager 2.5
Irfan View 4.10
Irfan View 4.10 Plugins
K-Lite Mega Codec Pack 3.5.3
Opera 9.24
Spybot Search and Destroy 1.51
Spybot Search and Detection updates
VLC Player 0.8.6c
WinRAR 3.71

Drivers
Asus SoundMAX Audio Driver v5.10.03.5010
ATI Catalyst (Windows Vista) 2900
ATI Catalyst (Windows XP) 2900
ATI Proprietary Linux x86 Display Driver 8.42.3
DriverAgent
CPU-Z
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi series Vista Driver 2.15.0004
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic, Platinum, Fatal1ty and Elite Pro Driver with OpenAL support 2.09.0007
DriverMax
GPU-Z
Intel Application Accelerator
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator Driver for Windows Vista
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator Driver for Windows XP
NVIDIA ForceWare Release 163 (Windows Vista)
NVIDIA ForceWare Release 163 (Windows XP)
NVIDIA nForce 430 v8.26
NVIDIA nForce 8.43
NVIDIA nForce 9.53
Realtek AC97 Sound Drivers (Windows Vista)
Realtek AC97 Sound Drivers (Windows XP)
Realtek HD Sound Drivers (Windows Vista)
Realtek HD Sound Drivers (Windows XP)

Updates
AVG Anti-Virus Definitions
Kaspersky Anti-Virus Update
McAfee SuperDAT
Norton AntiVirus Virus Definitions

Gaming

Big Games

Free
BMW M3 Challenge
Trepidation

Demos
Stranglehold
Crysis Demo
NFS Pro Street Demo
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008
Call of Duty 4

Casual And Retro

Free
Narbacular Drop
Death Illustrated
Marble Arena
CuteGod
HoloRacer (Linux)
JelloCar
Kaboodle
Little Fighter 2
Probed
RetroVaders

Demos
Gish

Extras
Starcraft II Official Trailer
Guitar Hero III: Exclusive Launch Trailer
TimeShift Official Trailer HD

Entertainment

Tools

Audio
Adobe SoundBooth
iTunes 7.4.3.1
JetAudio Basic 7.0.3.3016
MediaMonkey Standard 2.5.5.998
Zortam MP3 Media Studio 7.52
Live 5.0.1

Video
MediaPortal
DVD Shrink
MythTV (Linux)
Aurora Media Workshop 3.3.44.9
Aurora MPEG To DVD Burner 5.1.6.9
Photo DVD Creator 7.11
River Past Crazi Video Pro 2.6.1

Music

Rock And Alternative
Burgundy And Blue by Staggered Crossing
Demo-noid E.P. by Of The I
Electric Ride by NMDV
Just a catwalk from heaven by HYPE
tasteless by fresh body shop

Pop
Andy Blurry by Andy Blurry
Listen by t r y ^ d
Midnight Finger Painter by The Kazoo Funk Orchestra
So Little Time by Jaimina Johnston

Metal And Progressive
Chains of a martyr by Countdown
The Art Of War by Maniax Memori
Jaugernaut/ContraMantra by Jaugernaut
Songs for the Wild-At-Heart by DOUG the Eagle

Jazz
to years two long too day by pharmacopia
secret garden by Moving sand
A night in Istanbul by Birds of fire
Rain by Jampy

Video

Movies
Cactuses
Nosferatu
Reign of the fallen

Machinima
Anachronox: The Movie
BloodSpell

The Scene Season 2
The Scene Episode 2.0
The Scene Episode 2.1
The Scene Episode 2.2
The Scene Episode 2.3
The Scene Episode 2.4
The Scene Episode 2.5
The Scene Episode 2.6
The Scene Episode 2.7
The Scene Episode 2.8
The Scene Episode 2.9
The Scene Episode 2.10
The Scene Episode 2.11
The Scene Episode 2.12
The Scene Episode 2.13
The Scene Episode 2.14
The Scene Episode 2.15
The Scene Episode 2.16
The Scene Episode 2.17
The Scene Episode 2.18
The Scene Episode 2.19

Wallpapers

Cars
Ferrari
The Rest

Vista
Vista Wallpapers 1
Vista Wallpapers 2

Widescreen
Widescreen Wallpapers Set 1
Widescreen Wallpapers Set 2
Widescreen Wallpapers Set 3
Widescreen Wallpapers Set 4
Widescreen Wallpapers Set 5
Widescreen Wallpapers Set 6

Connect

Connect

Browsers
Firefox 2.0.0.9
Internet Explorer 7
Maxthon 2.0.5.7845 / 1.6.3.80
Netscape Navigator 9.0.0.3
Opera 9.24 Windows
Opera 9.50b for Windows
Orkut Cute 9.4.27
Safari 3.0.3 Beta Build 522.15.5
SeaMonkey 1.1.6

Email
ContactGenie Message Class Modifier 1.1.7
Eudora 8.0.0 Beta 1
IncrediMail 5.70 Build 3188 Beta
Microsoft Junk Email Filter for Outlook 2007 September 2007
Mozilla Thunderbird 2.0.0.6
SpamExperts Home 1.2.0.17 Pre-Release
SPAMfighter Standard 6.0.8
Mirramail 2.1.1
My.mail 2.1.5
RoboMail 2.1.0
SuperMailer 4.50.0.0731
The Bat! Professional Edition 3.99.29

Chat
AIM 6.5.4.16 Final
Miranda IM 0.8.0 Build 1 Beta
PalTalkScene 9.2.221
Pidgin (formerly Gaim) 2.2.2
Trillian 3.1.7.0
Windows Live Messenger 8.5.1302.1018
Yahoo! Messenger 9.0.0.797 Beta

IRC / LAN Chat
BRAVIS Pico Edition 1.2.0.20.1612
VooDoo cIRCle 1.1 Beta 29
mIRC 6.31
Network Assistant 4.2.0.2525
Outlook LAN Messenger 4.1.0
X-Chat 2.8.5c

Chat Tools
Manycam 2.1
Mess Patch 8.5.1288.816 - Generation 5
123 Flash Chat Server 6.8.1

Digit Archive
Digit Magazine PDFs - 2001 to 2007
Fast Track PDFs - 2005 to 2007

Save

Bookmark Managers
Link Commander 4.2.2.1051
SV Bookmark 2.9 Build 1162
Ultra Recall Professional 3.2.6
WebSite-Watcher 4.35 Beta 2

File Sharing
Azureus 3.0.3.4
BitComet Beta - 9 November 2007
MP3 Rocket 5.0.2
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WOW... thats really huge content... as i said before this is not a "Mega Issue" This is a "Giga Issue" in digit's histroy!!

Digit Rocks *gigasmilies.googlepages.com/111.gif *gigasmilies.googlepages.com/113.gif

+1 Digit will rock.
Anyone got the issue?

rajivnedungadi said:
Now this is a Special Joke about a Special Edition....
Blackpearl, I dont think that you have ever checked out the price of a DL DVD. A Blank, good, DL DVD costs more than 100 bucks.

The DVDs Digit give aren't blank. These are pressed DVDs manufactured (replicated is the correct word) in bulk so the production cost is very low.

As of 2003, DVDs cost about $1,000 to master and about $0.70 to replicate. Double-sided or dual-layer discs cost about $0.30 more to replicate

*renewmedia.org/joomla/content/view/35/67/lang,en/

That was 2003. Prices have come down a lot during these 4 years. If we consider the ratio of production cost to have remained the same then the replicating cost of DL DVDs are just about 42% more than that of single layer DVDs.

You do the rest of the math yourself.

@Raaabo: How much bandwidth did Digit consume last month?

When will digit dec issue hit the news stands ???

A

look like a Superbbb issue after a long gap...
kudos
"Digit Team" pls arrange for more issues... its soon gonna out of news-stands.
or already out of news-stands

, till 2:30 it's not available at my local news-stand, Kolkata.

L

Which Ultimate Boot CD is there?

ok, seeing that no one ecept an anna kournikova fan is on my side abt the covers, I did some soul searching and realised that the covers did make SOME sence.

and FYKI, moser baer movies in Dual Layer DVDs with box, artwork cost only Rs.34/-. so the dual layer DVDs MUST COST BELOW RS 20 I always hope the movie disc is blank, so that I can enjoy my first blank DVD+DL
I wonder why Boser Baer does not sell them blank, as the stores would be emptied before a few days of launching them. only a fool won't sell something with that much revenue assoiated with it.

too bad you did not give Ultimate Boot CD For Windows ISO, which is made from a windows install.

Now it is really a DIGIT! Our GR8 Magazine!

littledrop said:
Which Ultimate Boot CD is there?

Dunno Exactly But i think it will be
Ver 4.XX-- The latest one.
(One of The Best thing in Dec.s Mega issue)

Check out--> *www.ultimatebootcd.com/
====================================
Purchasing December Digit only For
[Mag,Collec. of PDFs of Fast-tracks,Ubuntu,UBCD,Otherwise Not a big Reason.]

the magazine still hasn't reached the news stand.I'll have to get it from my newspaper vendor.

mag content are great but not dvd contents

dvd contents could be much much better

blackpearl said:
The DVDs Digit give aren't blank. These are pressed DVDs manufactured (replicated is the correct word) in bulk so the production cost is very low.

But not as low as 10 bucks dude....If you want good quality media, you need to pay more

Has any one got the mag? Its not yet arrived in bangalore

^^yea its out on the newsstands.

^^have u got it ???? Its not available here in karnal haryana yet.

I checked out yesterday at 5pm he said it will be available at 7pm but since I am a very lazy bum I asked my newspaper vendor to get it for me,so I'll be getting it tomorrow or even later.

Wow, tats amazing. Just made a trip to the newstand, mag was not available. My newspaper wala should drop it at my door 2moro morning. Thanks for this issue

after a long long time , i will be getting this months issue

. its looks great

can i get this issue here in paris??
can i buy it online??

nik_for_you said:
can i get this issue here in paris??
can i buy it online??

get it mailed to you by someone in India

Is digit is Out????????!!!

Latest Update: Not yet on the stands at Mumbai

A

i will try this evening,but i don't think it will be available here(Hassan,Karnataka) before 6th

utsav said:
^^what more do u expect for 200bucks.

Hey it cost more than 200*1.6 Rs In Nepal..........

I think it will come today evening

No tommorrow!!!!????

A

not yet available

Not in Delhi yet

Update from mumbai: Not available on the new stands as yet! Might come tomorrow but that too is not guaranteed!

Maybe it's just me -- but I feel that it's taking forever to arrive. o.o
Hopefully I'll get it off the newstands tomorrow.

My vendor is commiting for Nxt week here in Rohini, Delhi.

nopes...still cant find it...update from kolkata !

harryneopotter said:
My vendor is commiting for Nxt week here in Rohini, Delhi.

Where are you in Rohini, I mean in which sector?

I am in rohini too

I think it will available today in mumbai :lol:

The_Devil_Himself said:
^^yea its out on the newsstands.

where do u live??

The_Devil_Himself said:
^^yea its out on the newsstands.

Where do u live??

K

...not available yet here in "Dubai"

Not here yet. -.-;
Maybe tomorrow. D:

Not available in Bangalore also...

*gigasmilies.googlepages.com/102.gif

May Be available 2day evening???

^If it's available in Mumbai today evng,then it will reach tomo evng here

A

rubbish not yet available

Its up on the stands at Mumbai

*gigasmilies.googlepages.com/bsod.gifnot available here too*gigasmilies.googlepages.com/bsod.gif

Hey!!Hey!!Hey!!

Digit is available!!!!!
I got my digi at mumbai vileparle 2dy evening!!!!!!

hurry!! gt ur copy now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yay! ^_~
I hope I can get it tomorrow before school. =D

Still not available in Dadar.

Maybe tomorrow.

kumarmohit said:
Where are you in Rohini, I mean in which sector?

I am in rohini too

sec 15 ....... wat bout u ?

not yet available in hauz khas delhi. :-(

harryneopotter said:
sec 15 ....... wat bout u ?

Avantika, Sec 1 that is.

T

Very Very good Content and I mean it.

Has anyone got digit in bangalore?

not available here till now

ELURU a.P *gigasmilies.googlepages.com/43.gif

I am afraid....It it is not available there Till now.....then When wil I Get the mag in Nepal..

S

Got this email today ...

We would like to inform you that the delivery of the Digit Dec 2007 issues has been delayed due to Special issue ( Five Magazines with DVD'S worth Rs.200/- ) . The Delivery would begin from 08th Dec 2007 onwards and you would be receiving the same within the working days. We regret the inconvenience caused to you.

A

^^no problem for me

I am a stand buyer

but it has not yet arrived

I am searching like anything. Not available till now. I hope I get it by tomorrow.

i knew,it is not going to reach jhansi(U.P) b4 8th

all special issues get late.*gigasmilies.googlepages.com/s10.gif

my newspaper vendor is yet to get me a copy.

I got the issue today morning

The 5 DVDs come with some good software. I liked the Windows 2008 Server and Exchange Server 2007 trials.

The magazines are too slim. Ads are okay with me but the contents are too less. Its just almost the same number of pages as a regular issue. A single book would have been better

Unfortunately there is no Fast Track

The December 2006 issue of Fast Track is missing from the PDF.

A

not yet available, it sucks, I have already spent more than 100 bucks for fuel expenses, now the mag will cost me 300 bucks

V

excellent

when will i get the mag*gigasmilies.googlepages.com/actions1.gif*gigasmilies.googlepages.com/bsod.gif*gigasmilies.googlepages.com/12.gif

I got the Mag yesterday.It's great guys.
Thank you Digit for such a great issue.*gigasmilies.googlepages.com/6.gif
But i miss Fastrack.

Subscriber Copy Circulation will start from 8th :-(

i got the mail from Digit today

Nimish I Am Very Disappointed !! About Magazine Contents !

Well DVD are ok ok and uselsess for me .. coz i hv bsnl broadband .. very helpful for others tough ! lets see !! how things go ..!!

And I thought you guys are really giving 5 Magazines !
But its just one Regular Digit magazine cut into 5 pieces !

Digit Magazine is usually 150 Pages
Now guys they are giving 5 magazines each or approximately 45 Pages
So that's 45*5=225 Pages !

and i thought i am getting atleats 100*5 = 500 Pages of superb content

This is initial comments .. have to read the Magazine now !!
Coz for me magazine is more important then the DVD

^Is digit available in bangalore ? I am not getting it in Yelahanka

hey i liked the mags ... small good editorial and very much cut to the categories not too much of info coz we already get most of it

and btw could some 1 tell me the background score used ... i love it

New said:
^Is digit available in bangalore ? I am not getting it in Yelahanka

yes it is.. i think everywhere ! and sold out in many places

^^its still not available in Karnal Haryana

@Akshay
Thanks ...Will go out onceagain*gigasmilies.googlepages.com/77.gif

damn, I am travelling to kerala and tamil nadu. It would have been sold out from the stands by the time i get back from there in january. I most probably will have to pick it up from chennai.

ilugd said:
damn, I am travelling to kerala and tamil nadu. It would have been sold out from the stands by the time i get back from there in january. I most probably will have to pick it up from chennai.

hehe i will get my copy today.

^^i'll get mine tomorrow with newspaper.

I m thinkin to get this one..
My net sucks and i need the DVDs..

^^same here.I am making hardware upgrades too I think i need all the new softwares now.lol.

Just got the magazine... Looks good on the outside.. Should check inside..

{edited...}
nevermind..

thanks for Purevideo

iMav said:
hey i liked the mags ... small good editorial and very much cut to the categories not too much of info coz we already get most of it and btw could some 1 tell me the background score used ... i love it

The song's called Introduction by Andy Blurry. The full album is on the Entertainment DVD

I bought it this evening.But, "personal tech" DVD is not working

Not here yet. :<
I hear it'll arrive on the stands here on the 8th as well, for whoever's looking.

pata nahi yahan karnal haryana mein kab available hogi ???*gigasmilies.googlepages.com/106.gif
*gigasmilies.googlepages.com/45.gif

I bought a copy of chip today, the fourth anniversary special
They too are providing 4 DVDs. But the quality of software is not very good as compared to that of Digit except Ubuntu 7.10. But magazine contentwise chip is better.

I think Pc world has given good content this time..But,not up to the level of digit....

A

got it yesterday late evening, just glanced through the pages, media has to be checked.

T

lol its 7 Dec and its still not in my area. "PUNE" wtf!!!!!

azaad_shri75 said:
got it yesterday late evening, just glanced through the pages, media has to be checked.

Akash Ganga mein bhi digit aa gayi hai...

lolz
rajkot mein digit kab aayegi???

^^lol its 7th and my damn newspaper vendor says he's still to get digit to me inspite of me paid him in advance.

^^same here.

Are!! India Ma Digit available nahi Hai......Then Kathmandu,Nepal AM Digit Kab Available Hoga..........

My Entertainment DVD is unreadable *gigasmilies.googlepages.com/20.gif

i need a replacement.... fatbeing.. please help me *gigasmilies.googlepages.com/63.gif

the news stand waala told me that dont come b4 10th december to buy the mag*gigasmilies.googlepages.com/2.gif and said that zyada masala daaloge to yehi hota hai (late hota hai)*gigasmilies.googlepages.com/24.gif

A

Gigacore said:
My Entertainment DVD is unreadable *gigasmilies.googlepages.com/20.gif

i need a replacement.... fatbeing.. please help me *gigasmilies.googlepages.com/63.gif

yes my entertainment dvd is also unredable system gets hanged whenever tried to acces it.

FATBEING please arrange for a replacement.

Rockstar11 said:
Akash Ganga mein bhi digit aa gayi hai... lolz
rajkot mein digit kab aayegi???

whats the use the entertainment dvd is not working, I bought the issue for it as there is no entertainment in Akash Ganga.

what the hell game dvd is full of demos

Yes!! my entertainment DVD is also not working :sad:

Administratus Rotundus :lol:

need ur help!!

T

All the guys having probs with Entertainment DVD or only some?

A

Not in Hassan,Karnataka

. the shop keeper says it will not available till 10th :shock:

N

^^^ same in vellore,TN...

^^thats ok buddy,the digit articles are great this time and thats the reason I am paying 200 rupees.

And I dunno if it has happened to you guys or not but Success rate of chip DVDs for me is less that 30% but digit DVDs have worked flawlessly till now so no regrets.I am not saying this is true for all but this is what is my experience and I don't know why.Digit+pcworld dvds always work flawlessly for me.

ax3 said:
ok ..... digit ppl ...... whots with u ppl, y do dissappoint us all & that 2 on bumper issue ......

just take a LOOK @ ur RIVAL mag "CHIP" ..... its awesome & disk contents r simply great ...... all that i need .......

*www.chip-india.com/diskcontent.php

sorry 2 QUOTE this ......

lol chip also giving Gutsy,
have you guys formed a cartel or something??

F

oh this is really nice....
waiting 4 this....
when will u reach me, my dear???

If you have problems with the DVDs, write to help at jasubhai dot com for a replacement. Posting on this forum won't get you anything.

adi007 said:
Not in Hassan,Karnataka. the shop keeper says it will not available till 10th

same is told to me by the shopkeeper here in Jhansi (u.p)

Its here in Delhi, Rohini, Avantika. Came 5 hours back. Havent purchased it yet coz no salay I have recieved.

^^wohoo! Then I'll get it tomorrow with my newspaper.Oh damn exams starts on 11th.dammit.

I have been buying digit from the very begining since it started printing under its name. There has been many good & bad experiences since including some which kind of forced me to discontinue subscription & revert back to being an newsstand buyer.

Anyway, I just got the December issue of digit an hour ago, even before reading it I must say - In this issue, the package looks great on the showcase but it is pathetic in work.

The newsstand guy had to spend good 5 minutes with a knife to make it feasible for me to take the package home comfortably. After coming home another few minutes to remove those sticky cello tapes stuck all over each of the 5 sections & dvds. If digit wanted to make a attractive package for display they should have given ad. boards for display than making the whole thing so....

I loved the ribbon.
It looked great like a gift.
Digit is my birthday gift.
I got it on my birthday.

I got Digit Mag in Chennai on 7th newspaper stands......surprised not able to get in cochin on 5th /6 th too....

Did the digit guys send in supplies too late

D

I am not a subscriber to my favorite magazine but since the past 4 years have never missed an issue that hit the newstands. The June and December edition are always special to me. I am bewildered today is 9th and there is no trace of Digit as of yet. As the excitement mounts to get Digit frustration is creeping in. I am from Chandannagore which is about 30 kms. away from Kolkata. Can someone tell me why this abnormal delay?

*www.puretna.com/pic/smilies/thankyou.gif

I liked the content, got it yesterday evening only.

just got the mag now ...
not bad enough..

Can someone tell if the Ubuntu DVD is bootable live cd, or It can be installed in the system.I'm looking for the latter

^^even live cd can be installed in the system

beleive me!lol

Yea the dvd is live(and not alternate) I guess.

The Ubuntu DVD is bootable.
Also it can be installed on the harddisk.

there are two types mate livecd\alternate(alternate can only be installed,just like windows cd).

its both

G

My "personal tech" DVD not working.What to do?

T

Give a mail to support and mail the CD / DVD back. They will give a free replacement.

but what about the courier charges we will spend to to send them the dvd.

So I can Install This Ubuntu,provided in Digit this month, to my SATA hard disk like a normal Linux. Is it?

T

Yes you have to bare the Charges for dispatch.

Linux can be installed in same way on SATA as it is on IDE. All latest distros work fine with SATA Disks

Yes you can install it to your SATA HDD like normal linux.

Tech_Wiz said:
Yes you have to bare the Charges for dispatch.

???

And will there be any problem in Booting to Vista, after installing Ubuntu,which will be installed in different partition of course.

I don't think so there will be any problems for Vista.
It will install GRUB & will give you choice to select any one OS.

hey i too want to buy digit buy from a shopkeeper!! but i hav one thoght! eat if some of the dvds r not workin n if shopkeeper refuses to replace it then wat wil i hav to do??

n yeah r those dvds provided in a case or just in plastic/paper cover. is there any change of gettin corrupt dvd from the shopkeeper!!

^ he wont replace it u hav to send them to DIGIT with ur own cost
u have to take the chance man .....

Any1 wants a PMP for 70,000Rs*gigasmilies.googlepages.com/13.gif

just open page number 35 in personal tech and see the price of the yes ymp45 mp3 player wrongly stated at 70,000Rs and value for money is 3 out of 5*gigasmilies.googlepages.com/24.gif

Just read the tips section, congos goes to all whose tips were featured.

oh crap,I haven't got it yet.

fun2sh said:
hey i too want to buy digit buy from a shopkeeper!! but i hav one thoght! eat if some of the dvds r not workin n if shopkeeper refuses to replace it then wat wil i hav to do??

n yeah r those dvds provided in a case or just in plastic/paper cover. is there any change of gettin corrupt dvd from the shopkeeper!!

Shopkeeper won't replace it.
But you email DIGIT team, they'll replace it,free of cost.
They did it twice to me.

Bought it today.And three dvds were blank.

But maine magazine wale ko dvd waapas dedi hai replacement ke liye.

S

gaurav_indian said:
Bought it today.And three dvds were blank. But maine magazine wale ko dvd waapas dedi hai replacement ke liye.

bhai tumhe hi blank dvds milti hai
mujhe to kabhi nahi mili

Are bhai tumne woh blank dl dvd kyon nayi rakliye each 1 costs 95 each

azzu said:
Are bhai tumne woh blank dl dvd kyon nayi rakliye each 1 costs 95 each

hehe 95 lol kaunse sabzi wale se leta hai tu dl dvd?

A

FatBeing said:
If you have problems with the DVDs, write to help at jasubhai dot com for a replacement. Posting on this forum won't get you anything.

I had written to them they are asking to send the faulty dvd,who will bear the extra cost

, why cant you just arrange for the replacement.

utsav said:
Any1 wants a PMP for 70,000Rs*gigasmilies.googlepages.com/13.gif

just open page number 35 in personal tech and see the price of the yes ymp45 mp3 player wrongly stated at 70,000Rs and value for money is 3 out of 5*gigasmilies.googlepages.com/24.gif

Ya even i was surprised but if you read the conclusion it mentions Rs 6999/- or something.

A

got DIGIT yesterday...
All DVD's working fine

I especially liked the UBUNTU DVD
and all pdf's of Digit and Fasttrack...
Last year they had provided the pdf's for 2 years and each pdf had security restrictions..
That means u cannot copy the text ..
But this time no restrictions...

I will use my own software Presenmaker1.0 to read all the text for me

P

Bought the mag yesterday and gave the media a spin...
Mag's content is not at all worth reading.
Games mag has got reviews of upcoming games- better when compared to the other 4 mags.Same old tips on how to organise your media and what to do with your old pc's...Nothing new in the mag.
3movies...hahah..lol..should learn from digit how waste space by cramming in some worthless stuff.Only movie or videos that's different is SCENE-episodes.

GOOD-UBUNTU DVD+UBCD+1gb winpeck+oxygen office+archives

Rating-2.5/5
2-for the dvd contents(0.5 for the mag)

Nice move digit.
Divided the entire mag into small ones..good..nice to hold and read.
It was very colorful..ya nearly all pages where very attractive and colorful.

And the DVD's are also fine...

But what brings all these xp down is ADS...

i was really started to think whether all the buyers guide article were written by be provider...
All the side pages nearly had big ads..may be thats why it was colorful :-D

And nearly half of the news are read and discussed in forum..especially the iphone- the invention of the year news...

Thanks anyway..
My last digit mag in my life...dec 2007

S

hey i got i dvd blank i.e.,ENTERTAINMENT now wt shld i do. Should i go to shopkeeper i.e, who manage stall of mags 'n' news papers at BUS STOP.
or i hv to send the dvd to digit on my own cost. BTW shopkeeper give a digit then i saw it was containg two same dvds i.e.,COMPUTING dvd.it was placed init twice and total dvd were five. now plz tell me wt to do.why digit take care abt this.'n' this is their special issue. tell me how can i get the right dvd.

I have not received my copy till now...what is digit doing?????????????????

Ok peeps got my copy today(finally!!),all DVDs working perfectly(digit dvds never fail me).mag contents are pretty good(detailed review after reading).

Thanks fatbeing,asfaq,and raarbo & co.

Thats the only thing i have to say about Dec Mag. Nafaratu in Movies section (Worthless) Movie!!!

Digit is going backwards in GP Rate. Are Digit Bosses listening, Mr Ajwani and co.?

Dont worry they wont listen.
I became seeing all those movies...only scene was nice.others are crap.
Sorry to say guys, but by dividing the mag yöü have somehow covered the fact that yöü have reduced the no of pages in total..and in the way increased the no of ad..

I know its difficult without ad's but when ad's over take article and also when they are put right next to some exclusive articles like buyers guide,in gaming mag, it just reduces the credibility of your article and makes us think that were these article specifically tailor made to suite the ad's on the side page..

My humble request..
Enough of all the usual stuff guys , get dirty,..we need articles much more deeper,now yöü have got readers who are well versed with computer terms... So now give them what yöü got...post more like next level of computing ,how they work,etc..
If yöü dont yöü are sure to loose your hardcore fans...now is the time.. And please reduce the ad...too much...

Think...for me dec mag was ok only because of the DVD..mag was horrible.nearly everything was known,no new stuff...

Ok sorry if i was harsh...
This is my feedback.
And to your knowledge i decided not to buy your mag...
125Rs is really out of my budget and content are all known..and i have broadband so really waste of money..

ya mag lacked new stuffs,the NFS Most -Wanted walkthrough was waste of page

arey yaar , sabko magazine mil gayi and I am still waiting.
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Have all the subscribers got the magazine too? :shock:

Am I left to die of nostalgia? I will not tolerate the indignity!

Team Digit, Prepare for whipping!

naveen_reloaded said:
125Rs is really out of my budget and content are all known..and i have broadband so really waste of money..

December issue made us all lighter by Rs.200 not regular Rs.125

S

I too haven't got my copy as yet

i havnot received yet......kahan reh gaya mera issue

I got the Magazine ... but all of the dvd's are not working in my laptop ... My dvd writer is in good condition its reading all the dvds apart from digit dec dvd'd ... same are working in my friend's laptop ..... is any way to get the replacement

(

S

Got this email today from digit

We would like to inform you that the delivery of the copies starts from 14th Dec 2007. Your Copy of Digit will be delivering by Fast Line Courier & Cargo Pvt. Ltd.
You should receive your copy within the next few working days.

W

azaad_shri75 said:
I had written to them they are asking to send the faulty dvd,who will bear the extra cost , why cant you just arrange for the replacement.

Same problem for me too. The Ubuntu 7.10 DVD was faulty. It just didn't load !

Ubuntu was the main reason, I purchased the magazine from newsstand.

SUKHI99 said:
hey i got i dvd blank i.e.,ENTERTAINMENT now wt shld i do. Should i go to shopkeeper i.e, who manage stall of mags 'n' news papers at BUS STOP.
or i hv to send the dvd to digit on my own cost. BTW shopkeeper give a digit then i saw it was containg two same dvds i.e.,COMPUTING dvd.it was placed init twice and total dvd were five. now plz tell me wt to do.why digit take care abt this.'n' this is their special issue. tell me how can i get the right dvd.

My 200 bucks are wasted !!

all my dvds working yippeeee

i too got a blank entertainment dvd .... this is the second time i have got blank cd or dvd from digit .......

^^have you tried writing on it?It may not be blank.

great ! simply awesome.. the content was great and nicely written and compiled.. loved all the things from our very own asfaq, nimish and raaabo.. the DVD content were also good.. all working..

Digit not yet reached the Goan News Stands till date. Whereas PC World is the first to reach before 3rd of every month. Looks like PC World is fast catching up with Digit in every area.......

A poor issue in my view. Mag contents were nowhere near the standard of CHIP. Even PC World gave good contents - as it does always.

Far too many ADs IMO.. also if the idea was to split into 5 small booklets, its a poor and greedy idea to have so many ADs in them.. it stinks folks!

Even my Personal tech DVD is not working (mind you, its the least useful dvd, so I cant be ars** to complain).. thankfully rest all are fine (especially entertainment and ubuntu)

Movies are pathetic to say the least.. cannot think of anyone watching such lame stuff.. Cmon digit, why do u serve us such bummers!?! I expected some good documentaries or animated films atleast..

Overall very disappointed.. I'm not buying until June '08 anniversary issue unless I find something worth my money..

R

I Miss Zero1 awards....

N

phuchungbhutia said:
i too got a blank entertainment dvd .... this is the second time i have got blank cd or dvd from digit .......

me too..

doesn't work in any drive and can't burn on it.everytime i click the drive my tray opens with a msg-Insert a disc.

And the idea of splitting the mag is good but contents were not much.they were good but mag was stuffed with ads.contents of dvds are average.also please have a look at the UI of chip.its much better.

The mag was a total noncens the should mave made it one mag with 155 page or something really digit and ea games r getting flop day by day
ooooooo i forgot to mention ubatu not working

S

Still haven't got my copy

Yippie!!!! Got my copy from newspaper vendor. Little disappointed from the ultra thin 5 Mags and too much ads..

^^finally!!.congrats mate party kab hai?

thanks raaabo and co. for providing previous issues in pdf format,enough to keep me busy for hours!!

When i will get my MAg?????
Although Digit is my fav mag.......But I feel to buy PC Quest coz it reaches on time..........

Digit must either increase their workers.........or they will be loosing their customers..........

REY619 said:
I Miss Zero1 awards....

wht is zero award

The_Devil_Himself said:
^^finally!!.congrats mate party kab hai?

thanks raaabo and co. for providing previous issues in pdf format,enough to keep me busy for hours!!

aaja party ghar pe hi hai, poore mohalla ko invite kiya hua hai, tu bhi aa jaa.

A

Ron said:
wht is zero award

zero1 awards is given by DIGIT every december issue..
The awards are given to each product which they find the best in their respective category..
There are various categories like antivirus,moniter,keyboard etc.....

adi007 said:
zero1 awards is given by DIGIT every december issue..
The awards are given to each product which they find the best in their respective category..
There are various categories like antivirus,moniter,keyboard etc.....

thnks buddy........

M

hey, guyz

i'm a subscriber. i got my copy of the mag yesterday, but it's GAMING DVD is not detected by my PC. all other DVDs work fine. whom shud i complain to????

Mrinal Mohit said:
hey, guyz

i'm a subscriber. i got my copy of the mag yesterday, but it's GAMING DVD is not detected by my PC. all other DVDs work fine. whom shud i complain to????

help@jasubhai.com or call at 40789612/9613/9614

*www.thinkdigit.com/index.php?action=problems

S

sir i buy you Digit this edition is very good, i got 5 DVD, all DVD are good
but sir the "GAMING" DVD not opened in my computer, i have DVD writer, please sir help me what i do.
my email edd is sundor18@yahoo.co.in

This time so many complains abt dvds.evry 2nd post is of a non functional dvd

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I didn't get the "Gaming" Dvd. Instead of it there are two "computing" dvd's. How can i get one ?

Sigh... received the mag yesterday... unfortunately, NONE of the DVDs work.
Mailed to help@jasubhai.com about it but no response yet. BTW, did any one notice that the Customer Service -> Report missing, damaged issues on the website is totally useless... all it does is ask user for his new address.
DIGIT FIX THIS

This month's edition was simply superb!! Where's fast track and "Take a crack" ?

Thanks DIGIT...
but i thing do i need to have QUAKE !!! installed to play Trepidation??

And Plzzz Digit We Subscribers Are Yet To Recieve Our Mag...for Heavens Sake Plzz Spped Up Your Delivery!!
I Wish U

"god Speed"

A

i am fed up
i recieve digit after 15th of almost every month
even my counterparts in south recieve it b4 me

digit, do something abut this

btw- i haven't recieved this months copy as yet

M

did u notice that the cover (on Gaming) says that Team Fortress 2 is reviewed but it's not there in the mag!!! Digit is weird....

THANKS DIGIT

Got The Mag Today!!!!!!!!!

All the DVD"S are working....

But One Qns....How Did digt made the DVD's work just like and OS?

H

Red_Baron said:
Sigh... received the mag yesterday... unfortunately, NONE of the DVDs work.
Mailed to help@jasubhai.com about it but no response yet. BTW, did any one notice that the Customer Service -> Report missing, damaged issues on the website is totally useless... all it does is ask user for his new address.
DIGIT FIX THIS

Welcome to the Jungle

A

It has been quite some time since I got my copy of Digit in the first week of the month. What is team Digit doing about it? Almost every month I get a mail saying it will get delayed. You cant have unexpected problems every month, its just a habit that team Digit has caught and I don't see any hope it'll get corrected. This month's special Digit copy not received. It doesn't take more than a week for a courier to deliver any parsel from Mumbai to Indore.

Great going team DIGIT.

I love the covers. Can I get those illustrations as wallpapers? Can you send me those images please?

Got my copy yesterday!!!

Awesome work guys! The DVDs are great, i wont say that much of the content was useful for me straightaway, but its good to have that great amount of software that i'll use eventually. Special thanks for the Windows Sever 2008 RC and Search Server Express. I wanted to test drive them for a long time but couldnt do so because of my slow connection. And Many many thanks for Ubuntu and Full Coverage of The Scene( i like it very much :-D

). The wallpapers are also awesome, specially the Vista and the widescreen ones

. I liked entertainment and ubuntu dvd very much.

Magazines are a bit low on contents and have quiet good mount of fat (ads

), but whatever is given, its of good quality and the overall feel of the magazine is good. Kudos for this one Guys!!!

Is The Ubuntu Dvd Digit Is Providing In This Issue Has All The Applications Supported By Ubuntu Community , I Mean That All Available Applications
And All Third Party Applications With Officially Supported (the One With Ubuntu Logo)
This Means Complete Repository Set From Packages.ubuntu.com That Is Really Great

^ I dont think so. The Whole repository is quiet huge in size and it wont be feasible for Digit to carry it on DVD,even in future. The ubuntu package that Digit has given this month is the standard DVD iso available at Ubuntu website, which by the way, contains what most user will ever need. Of course only the open source stuff, not the proprietary codecs and all.

MAn 2 of my DVD's personla tech & gaming not working...
1st of all i paid 200 bucks

& now thw dvd's dont work & why did u'll skip on the fast track...
I want my DVD's ..r u listenin team digit?????

Great job on this month. I particularly liked the fact that you provided archives of every single digit eva! [if i'm not wrong]

I really liked the Archive which even includes all the Fast Tracks..great!!! Though the DVD contents otherwise is not good enough...pretty average. Magazines also contains too much of advertisements.

A

I got my replacement entertainment dvd yesterday, however the movies are still un readable, wide screen wallpaer coleection is good.

S

I still haven't got my copy ... Any idea whom to contact ?

azaad_shri75 said:
I got my replacement entertainment dvd yesterday, however the movies are still un readable, wide screen wallpaer coleection is good.

hey how did u get a replacement ....i only get automated replies at help at jasubhai dot com

A

ssk_the_gr8 said:
hey how did u get a replacement ....i only get automated replies at help at jasubhai dot com

I wrote to the same address.

S

My Connect and personal computing DVD damaged. I live in ktm, Nepal. Can i get it replaced?
and where is vistamizer? it is in the excel file? but not in the DVD.

Siddhartha_t69 said:
My Connect and personal computing DVD damaged. I live in ktm, Nepal. Can i get it replaced?
and where is vistamizer? it is in the excel file? but not in the DVD.

U too from KTM.........

Contact Here:
help@jasubhai.com or call at 40789612/9613/9614

*www.thinkdigit.com/index.php?action=problems

Guys....whts is Ultimate Boot CD .......How can i use it

F

The personal tech dvd is not working. In fact the dvd is not opening and the drive is not getting displayed. Kindly let me know if I can use any software to open the files or to replace the DVD by digit.

F.S.Raja

Ron said:
Guys....whts is Ultimate Boot CD .......How can i use it

Better post it in Software section mate

I received Digit Dec07 yesterday...

Its rocking...

Very good dvd contents..

My Entertainment DVD is not readable, it hangs my pc.

Have complained digit through *www.thinkdigit.com/index.php?action=problems .. hope for the early replacement..

Are you a subscriber? if yes then give them an e-mail at help@jasubhai.com. This always solves problems for me.

krups said:
Have complained digit through *www.thinkdigit.com/index.php?action=problems .. hope for the early replacement..

Dude how did you use the page to register your complaint?
All it does is change your postal address.

Guys,
How can i copy the PDf file provided by the digit...........
Some of the issues are PRotected and secured........therefore i am unable to copy the Tack a Crack...................
Pls help me..........

hey they dont reply to my mails...
i am not a subscriber.. is that the reason digit is ignoring me???

Red_Baron said:
Dude how did you use the page to register your complaint?
All it does is change your postal address.

yes that was not place to complain, i mailed my complain @ help@jasubhai.com

S

Ron said:
U too from KTM.........

Contact Here:
help@jasubhai.com or call at 40789612/9613/9614

*www.thinkdigit.com/index.php?action=problems

couldn't get it. 40789612/3/4 kaha ko number ho ? it says "you are not allowed to dial this number" on my NTC mobile.

ani bro can we also subscribe to mag from ktm?

Siddhartha_t69 said:
couldn't get it. 40789612/3/4 kaha ko number ho ? it says "you are not allowed to dial this number" on my NTC mobile.

ani bro can we also subscribe to mag from ktm?

Hey the no is of diigt publication house ......U cannot dial from ktm...........
Yaa.......U can subscribe to mag from KTm.........Just contact them...........
Regrading the damaged Cd......Mail to them....so that they will replace the DVD's.......and hey where do u live......

R

Review of this month's Special mag:
1)Preferred the old format of a single mag. The 5 different mags although good yet leave somewhat much more to desire. And as mentioned numerous times before - cut out the ads.
2) Good stuff in the DVD's. Not impressed by the widescreen wallpaper collection(as I still have a CRT) nor by Ubuntu (I had already requested a version from the shipit.ubuntu.com). However thanks for introducing Andy Blurry and giving one more album by Hype - the band seriously rocks.
3)The editorials in the beginning of each of the 5 mag were top-notch.
Conclusion: Team Digit, Don't touch the 5-different-mag thing again. Continue giving such great DVD's.
And by the way, whatever the shortcomes you guys are the best.
***Keep On Rocking****

A

Ron said:
Guys,
How can i copy the PDf file provided by the digit...........
Some of the issues are PRotected and secured........therefore i am unable to copy the Tack a Crack...................
Pls help me..........

i am using a free pdf software to disable the security....
damn!i don't remenber the name of the software *gigasmilies.googlepages.com/39.gif
will tell the name later...

HELP PLEASE
I have not received the Computing dvd this month, in place of it i have received
two personal tech dvds. i wrote to help@jasubhai about a week ago, but there has been no reply since.

adi007 said:
i am using a free pdf software to disable the security....
damn!i don't remenber the name of the software *gigasmilies.googlepages.com/39.gif
will tell the name later...

hey buddy pls do tell the name .....................when u remember

Ron said:
hey buddy pls do tell the name .....................when u remember

Why don't you start a new thread in te software section m8?

S

Ron said:
Hey the no is of diigt publication house ......U cannot dial from ktm...........
Yaa.......U can subscribe to mag from KTm.........Just contact them...........
Regrading the damaged Cd......Mail to them....so that they will replace the DVD's.......and hey where do u live......

Ya i mailed to them. all i got was an automated reply. nothing else. do they have their office here? how are they gonna replace.

3 out of 5 dvds that came with this month are bad. Means the drive is not reading it. Where do i send them?

A

Ron said:
hey buddy pls do tell the name .....................when u remember

it's free pdf fill tools
*pdfill.com/pdf_tools_free.html

Siddhartha_t69 said:
Ya i mailed to them. all i got was an automated reply. nothing else. do they have their office here? how are they gonna replace.

..as far as i know.......they do not hv their office here...........
U hv to send ur damaged DVD to the publication house located in Mumabai..................so that they will replace ur DVD with a new one.........

mail them in the other ID...................or contcat Raboo.......or any other admin.....

Where do u live in kTm? and how many damaged DVD u hv?

adi007 said:
it's free pdf fill tools
*pdfill.com/pdf_tools_free.html

thnks buddy.....Just downloading it.......

Anindya said:
3 out of 5 dvds that came with this month are bad. Means the drive is not reading it. Where do i send them?

Sorry for this msg. My dvd drive from Liteon had gone capput. The dvds are alright.

wow this time's digit is simply awesome..i love it...

S

Ron said:
..as far as i know.......they do not hv their office here...........
U hv to send ur damaged DVD to the publication house located in Mumabai..................so that they will replace ur DVD with a new one.........

mail them in the other ID...................or contcat Raboo.......or any other admin.....

Where do u live in kTm? and how many damaged DVD u hv?

Seems hectic... I 've got 3 damaged discs.
Patan area. You?

even my entertainment dvd is not working

..... watz the address for sending the damaged dvds for replacement ? ..... do we need to send them by ordinary mail or through courier ?

Siddhartha_t69 said:
Seems hectic... I 've got 3 damaged discs.
Patan area. You?

New road

i wrote a mail to DIGIT about my faulty ENTERTAINMENT DVD 15 days Back.
But no reply!!!!! what 2 do??

Preview Of New year issue?

i need this december issue...was busy with my xams....anyway of getting it.....its already out of stock at many places

In the Bazaar section of the "Personal Technology" mag,the price of YES YMP45 is stated as 6499/-, while to the right side of it(under contact address),it is stated as 70k. So,which one's right?

70k

Please start preview of January issue

@trublu - Offcourse Rs.7k is right. :))

Cool G5 said:
@trublu - Offcourse Rs.7k is right.

there were 2 options:- 6499/- or 70k.Where did 7k come from?

gyz it is 2 january. naturally you wud not be posting a Preview now

Post the january disc contents!

L

*thinkdigit.com/

read the january contents pdf

Digit December 2007 Special Issue out of stock

?
Has noone seen this: *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77253 ?

Damn, I was in kerala and tamil nadu, the last whole month. Couldn't pick up a copy. Have asked the book stall guy to get a copy. Keeping my fingers crossed.