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Saw something similar at a friend's office.
Good catch but are you sure about i5 8400 because recently saw this:
Surely interesting.
yes, I think it's because of multiple dies in there. The simple "pea drop in the middle" thermal paste strategy isn't working I guess.
Yes, that can be the reason. I've tried the line, X, dot and spread method on my laptop's CPU and GPU. Spread has been the most effective till now and RTX 2060 has a larger die compared to the 9750H.
also with GPUs and Laptop CPUs we almost never have the "heat spreader" like we do on desktop CPUs. So, sufficial thermal paste is critical.
Exactly & this is especially important for a country like India where majority of the region experience 40C+ temp for months. I think it is better to get a good aftermarket cooler for those doing some serious gaming/workstation stuff on ryzen 3rd gen processors unless some review can prove that stock coolers are good enough.
Overheating depends on your usage scenario & local climate. For most people it is just a matter of running these processors at 60C instead of 50C so not much difference(just an example).
I saw but still I am a bit confused. What does max power/heat here indicates when expressed in % terms. e.g. Does 100% means max power per unit of heat is same but 194% means max power is almost 2 times per unit of heat?
I thought 106% is like (1.06unit of max power(of processor/1 unit of heat dissipated)*100
They are not over-heating, neither have heating issues.
Looking forward to your results.
I had ordered it 2 months ago but haven't installed it because of laziness.
I got B350 mobo in oct 2018, ryzen 1200 in feb 2019, ddr4 ram in mar 2019 & still not able to assemble because of various real life issues.
I think hyper 212 is not much better than Stealth,right?
You bought Prism separately?
Yes from a member who is using R9 3900X.
Found this according to which Deepcool Gammaxx 200T(available for ~1.9k on mdcomputers) is a much better option than stealth, better than spire & just a bit behind prism. Hyper 212 3k+ price seems overpriced as per this.
Yes, just looked at 3600. It has Wraith Stealth and should have had Wraith Spire (at the minimum).
What do these people use then?
Custom LCs and mostly NZXT or Corsair 240 RADS probably because these are what I am seeing mostly in reddit subreddits like pcmasterrace etc I mean showoff sections.
Builders with high-end configs mostly buy third-party coolers.
Usually Intel had lower prices for i5 compared to R5, lets see how its priced in India. Even for same price, R5 3600 is the better choice though.
Wait, I'm gonna need whatever you had before posting this
These are on NH-U12S. Intel stock heat sinks are like or even worse than wraith stealth.
An i5 10400 will not compete with R5 3600 as it will be priced higher. 10400F will likely be priced the same as R5 3600, both lack iGPU.
But majority of rooms in NCR in summer season will have temps around 30-31.
Then why do people say that the cooler is ok & better than what Intel provides? People don't say that the cooler is good & even say that a cheap CM Hyper 212 does a better job, but say that it's good enough. Even in Reddit, a lot of people build PC with that box cooler.
Many do own R5 3600, it is just a great value for money CPU now. I'm talking about such people as the inclusion of box cooler is considered a big advantage for AMD against Intel K/KF CPUs even if they are priced the same. I have seen many pair it with even something like RTX 2070S for 1440p gaming, surely does the job well.
SMB protocol is basically used for network file sharing especially with other systems running different versions of windows.
If you are indeed downloading the correct version of patch for your win 10 version then probably it is already installed in some auto update you missed or some win 10 update in Apr.
That looks nice. How much ever you bash Intel, their 14nm is surely refined. Say even a refined 10nm will help them compete with Ryzen rather than getting beaten down like they are now.
Meanwhile, India wastes its time in #boycott Tanishq and Zomato.
Now the trend is #boycott Love Jihad.
By any chance here do you mean Indian culture is to blame?
Culture is not a living entity, it is always Indians to blame not Indian culture.
I was just joking with @ico . Don't you remember this dialog? It was quite famous back then on this forum.
Yeah now I remember.
LOL.
Yes. Specifically India's "boycott"/"sampoorna bahishkaar" culture.
After their announcement I expected the i5 11400 & 11400F to be great value considering 10400 is a great value. Seems that is true, esp because of the high R5 3600 price & lack of R5 5600/5500.
9K sounds good for this. The direct competitor R5 3500 is costlier. But all comes down to overall cost, how much is mobo? Or you already have a mobo.
Yes, 9k is great. As mentioned earlier, what about mobo?
I think few seller have i5 11400 for 17k & 11500 for 19.5k, still not easily available as 10th gen. Try small sellers. The i5 10400F is 13k with some sellers, not bad IMO. Don't forget that B560 mobos are rare as well for 11th gen.
Better get iGPU i5 11400 for a similar price. The iGPU will be handy, esp now.
Intel 12th gen (for ease of saying) won't use the current socket.
You are wrong, in a way. If Intel faces another 10nm delay, then it can happen that some low powered laptop CPUs will again be 10nm, like is the case since 10th gen. We will get another 14nm++++++ high performance 12th gen CPUs for desktop & gaming laptops. But we will surely get a new gen of CPUs.
from where are they buying? Are they getting warranty?
The i5 10600K has iGPU but i5 10600KF doesn't.
Considering 5800X is 38k+, I think this will be 30k+, if it even launches here. Who knows what will happen.
Yes. Even i7 10700K has fallen down to 30k, if only B460 mobos had XMP support, I could have recommended 10700K. I need to see some B560 VRM tests to see if it can take the load of a 150W+ CPU (when CPU's power limit is removed).
The iGPU was something nice to have, till last year. But now its important. Not sure how you put cost to it, but I put more priority to it nowadays while recommending others.
It's because you can atleast have the system running while we wait for gpu stocks
Obviously, that's the main reason.
The i5 11600K doesn't seem as good of a deal as 11400 or even 11500. For 6 core CPU, R5 5600X is still better & much more efficient.
Yes. Intel's CPU is much more competitive now compared to 10th gen & competition is always better. Lower tier i5 & i7 are the main CPUs that will be mainstream.
The i5 11400F is a better value for money CPU over R5 5600X as it's usually 18-20k vs 5600X's 26-28k. But 5600X will run ok with stock cooler & give close to full performance but i5 11400F will run fine at 65W & if you unlock its power limits for full performance, you will need a better cooler as it draws ~120W at full CPU load.
I wont use the stock cooler, i have always felt an after market air cooler is an essential part of a build, in terms of performance as well as aesthetics. Have my eye on the GTE V2 but i may splurge on a ARCTIC Freezer 34 Esports Duo if i feel like it
Nice, was expected. AMD stop trying to compete under $300. R5 5600G wasn't a good attempt as well. So i5 11400F & the old i3 10105F or even i5 10400F got a new life with XMP support with B560. If AMD doesn't compete, Intel will stop trying as well in future. Bad for consumers.
Considering AMD's prices, wouldn't have mattered. The i5 10400F & 11400F would have been better for those building gaming rigs.