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Pranav19 Original post #1
Jul 4, 2012 at 8:34 AM
Hi I have currently intel core2duo e4400 2ghz cpu 1gb ram and 1gb nvidia 210 graphics card. I recently started using windows 7 from xp so wanted to upgrade ram. After installing another 1gb the monitor does not display anything though the comp starts. What could be the problem ? The comp starts with single ram, i even tried interchaging the ram in slots still problem persists. The PC is woring fine with 1 gb ram albit slowly. What should i do ?
CyberKID
Jul 4, 2012 at 10:03 AM
have u tried running the system with using both RAM sticks, 1 stick at a time? This could possibly help you figuring out whether your RAM sticks are good or have gone kaput.
Maybe there's a problem with the RAM slot itself(if everything else is ok).
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Jul 4, 2012 at 11:03 AM
Ya tried running it with both sticks individually. Both are good. Also tried both slots.
sling-shot
Jul 4, 2012 at 11:18 AM
RAMs are supposed to have incompatibility if not matched perfectly.

1. Are they both the same frequency?
2. Are they both from the same manufacturer?
3. There is some specification called timing or something.

Please check these. The symptoms you describe suggest incompatibility.
Siddharth_1
Jul 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM
^^sling shot, this doesnt matter. I used 2 diferent types of ram in my old pc, ie. 1 x 512mb 400mhz(transcend) + 1 x 2gb 800mhz(kingston)
CyberKID
Jul 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM
^ sling-shot's right. There might be some incompatibility. Check the RAM sticks individually using CPU-Z (Memory and SPD tabs). Even if the manufacturers aren't the same, the frequencies should match. RAM (CAS Latency) timings are not much of a hurdle unless you're using a high end overclocker's stick and another a somewhat value stick (you can also change the CAS Latency timings in BIOS in most motherboards.

@Siddharth_1: Strange! haven't heard of this. Possibly your mobo supports both DDR and DDR2 RAM's.
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Jul 4, 2012 at 12:05 PM
I had returned the new stick since it was not working. So i should check my present ram n buy another of same manufacturer and frequency ?
CyberKID
Jul 4, 2012 at 12:19 PM
manufacturer doesn't matter a lot. check for the RAM type (DDR2 or DDR3) and frequency.
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Jul 4, 2012 at 12:43 PM
Ok . I will check when i get home and reply. It isnt some problem of mobo or anything else? Sorry i am i a noob in hardware matters
Zangetsu
Zangetsu #10
Jul 4, 2012 at 1:36 PM
Ok . I will check when i get home and reply. It isnt some problem of mobo or anything else? Sorry i am i a noob in hardware matters

if its a problem of RAM slot then no RAM will work on those slots.
sometime it happens that a single slot is faulty.

if both slots r working fine then use another RAM module :cool:
CyberKID
CyberKID #11
Jul 4, 2012 at 1:59 PM
Ok . I will check when i get home and reply. It isnt some problem of mobo or anything else? Sorry i am i a noob in hardware matters

Can't deny a possibility of a problem with the mobo itself. No need to be sorry, no one's born geek!:)
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Pranav19 #12
Jul 4, 2012 at 1:59 PM
No both the ram were working in both slots i tried all combinations but they were not working together.
Zangetsu
Zangetsu #13
Jul 4, 2012 at 2:50 PM
No both the ram were working in both slots i tried all combinations but they were not working together.

Then the clock timings are not synced in both
CyberKID
CyberKID #14
Jul 4, 2012 at 2:59 PM
Seems to be a mismatched frequency problem
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Pranav19 #15
Jul 4, 2012 at 5:37 PM
Ok i downloaded cpu-z my current ram is
ddr2
single channel
dram frequency 333mhz
cycle time 15 clocks
CyberKID
CyberKID #16
Jul 4, 2012 at 5:43 PM
please post the cpu-z screen shots (Memory+SPD).
Seems to me like DDR2 667 Mhz (PC2-5300). Can't be sure unless cross checked with Max Bandwidth (which shows the Module Name and Frequency) under SPD tab of CPU-Z.
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Pranav19 #17
Jul 4, 2012 at 5:55 PM
*i.imgur.com/pkeoe.png

*i.imgur.com/TAYGL.png
here are screenshots

How to upload photos ? lnik from dropbox not working ?. Here is direct link to the folder *www.dropbox.com/sh/mhdjgp6qazpzsza/bZAYrcTG9a
CyberKID
CyberKID #18
Jul 4, 2012 at 6:07 PM
^ use imgur.com

Confirmed! it's the PC2-5300. Try getting yourself a DDR-2 667 MHz stick. Alternatively to be on the safer side, try getting a stick from one of your friends if possible, to check before buying one.
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Pranav19 #19
Jul 4, 2012 at 6:11 PM
OK Thanks a lot.
CyberKID
CyberKID #20
Jul 4, 2012 at 6:12 PM
Glad to be of help
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Pranav19 #21
Jul 4, 2012 at 8:59 PM
Can you tell me how much RAM i can put 1GB or will 2 GB stick be compatible. other minor upgrade which can be done
also which one i should go for ?
*www.flipkart.com/evm-ddr2-1-gb-pc-...AZ7Q&ref=535ef81a-2fba-4a2a-8691-ef498ed8bef0

*www.flipkart.com/transcend-ddr2-66...5EER&ref=535ef81a-2fba-4a2a-8691-ef498ed8bef0
Zangetsu
Zangetsu #22
Jul 5, 2012 at 10:54 AM
Can you tell me how much RAM i can put 1GB or will 2 GB stick be compatible. other minor upgrade which can be done
also which one i should go for ?

that depends on your motherboard support.

read the mobo manual or check online by finding the mobo model no & brand :cool:
Siddharth_1
Jul 5, 2012 at 11:14 AM
But then how did 2 ram sticks of diff. frequencies(400 and 800mhz) sizes(512mb and 2gb) and from diff. manufacturers(ram from diff. manufacturers not working together makes no sense) worked fine i my pc???
Zangetsu
Zangetsu #24
Jul 5, 2012 at 11:20 AM
But then how did 2 ram sticks of diff. frequencies(400 and 800mhz) sizes(512mb and 2gb) and from diff. manufacturers(ram from diff. manufacturers not working together makes no sense) worked fine i my pc???

the RAM timings shud match no matter the frequency is 400 or 800Mhz.
in your case the 800Mhz RAM is working at lower frequency of 400Mhz :cool:
CyberKID
CyberKID #25
Jul 5, 2012 at 11:32 AM
Instead of EVM (never heard of that!) go in for a Kingston one or stick to Transcend. Flipkart's got the 667 MHz Transcend sticks. Try comparing prices with that in the local market. I've found that Flipkart have prices about Rs. 100 or so higher than the local market. Better put in 2GB to be safe for atleast another year. Your system has a 32 bit OS, and 3GB will suffice. I think your system will support almost 8GB of RAM as your PC has an ATX mobo (as evident from the CPU-Z screenshots-your current RAM is in Slot #3)

the RAM timings shud match no matter the frequency is 400 or 800Mhz.
in your case the 800Mhz RAM is working at lower frequency of 400Mhz :cool:

Guys! lets not fight over different RAM's working together.
Timings doesn't matter a lot, until and unless you're an extreme overclocker. The RAM's are capable of operating at different frequencies way up till the maximum RAM frequency. The RAM sticks are required to operate at different CAS Latency timings as laid down in the specifications given by JEDEC (Joint Electron Devices Engineering Council), and the RAM sticks change their CAS timings according to their operating frequency.
sling-shot
Jul 5, 2012 at 8:15 PM
In an ideal world they should. But in the real world there have been many reports of problems related to these things. And the OP has already explained his situation.

So there is no harm in playing safe and getting exact matches.
d6bmg
d6bmg #27
Jul 5, 2012 at 11:27 PM
If there are more than one channel present in the board, RAM modules having different timing can be used. Otherwise, if two modules having different timings (not speed) is being used in a same channel, PC won't start at all.
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Pranav19 #28
Jul 6, 2012 at 12:11 AM
What is timing of module ?
CyberKID
CyberKID #29
Jul 6, 2012 at 11:54 AM
Memory timings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia should explain it to you better than anyone
d6bmg
d6bmg #30
Jul 6, 2012 at 1:01 PM
What is timing of module ?

In your case, the existing module is of CL5 (i.e. having the timing 5-5-5-15) and with the memory speed of 666MHz.

P.S. See the Wikipedia link.
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Pranav19 #31
Jul 6, 2012 at 5:32 PM
ok.. But on flipkart they show only CAS latency as seen my cas latecy is 3-4-5. So would this ram be ok for me Transcend DDR2 1 GB PC RAM (JM667QLU-1G) | Ram | Flipkart.com .
or any other ?
Thanks
CyberKID
CyberKID #32
Jul 6, 2012 at 6:47 PM
absolutely fine!
d6bmg
d6bmg #33
Jul 7, 2012 at 12:51 AM
ok.. But on flipkart they show only CAS latency as seen my cas latecy is 3-4-5. So would this ram be ok for me Transcend DDR2 1 GB PC RAM (JM667QLU-1G) | Ram | Flipkart.com .
or any other ?
Thanks

Yes. It will. ;)
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Pranav19 #34
Jul 19, 2012 at 9:30 PM
Hey guys sorry for late. Couldn't buy the ram immediately. Got 2gb Ram from flipkart today. Its smaller in size than earlier one so it cant be locked.. Had problem installing for some time but got it right in the end.. Now pc working fine.. Thanks..
d6bmg
d6bmg #35
Jul 20, 2012 at 1:03 AM
Size is actually same. ;)
And congrats on your purchase.
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Pranav19 #36
Jul 20, 2012 at 1:43 AM
the length is same but the width was almost half..
CyberKID
CyberKID #38
Jul 20, 2012 at 7:25 AM
^^heatsink.err..... the memory chips have become smaller

BTW, congrats for the purchase Pranav19.
d6bmg
d6bmg #39
Jul 21, 2012 at 1:58 AM
^^heatsink.err..... the memory chips have become smaller

BTW, congrats for the purchase Pranav19.

A bit OT: can the same be said for DDR2 RAM modules? :unsure:
CyberKID
CyberKID #40
Jul 21, 2012 at 10:12 AM
^ may be this might hold true for DDR2 memory chips as well. We all know that its the enthusiast RAM modules which feature heatsinks, and the value ram's are better off without heatsinks. I haven't played with DDR2, so can't say for sure. Given that the length can't be reduced, manufacturers might have reduced the height to save on some costs.