S5 or M8? · DIGIT-ARC

Okay, buying one coming Tuesday or Wednesday. Now which one would you get? By S5 I obviously don't mean the sh!t Exynos one.

This is how I sorted out positives and negatives for both,

S5:

+ Better camera. I am not even going to the comparison with M8.
+ Better size, and overall grip. M8 is slippery.
+ Hardware buttons.
+ IP67 certification, this might come handy, might not, should not be a deciding factor.
+ 15 grams lighter!
+ USB 3.0? Hmm

- Plastic. Uff

However with far superior build quality than S4!
- Far lesser custom support from XDA! No one likes Samsung!
- Meaningless features and bloats!

M8:

+ Build quality and materials. Comparing plastic with Aluminium is meaningless.
+ Those boom speakers. I will never use them for multimedia purpose but having it for calls is great.
+ Better custom support.
+ UI is much much faster and responsive than TW.

- Undeniably the camera. However I don't use camera much at all.
- On screen buttons, hate the idea!
- Have heard ASS of hTC India is poor!

Which one would you pick? Remember, the S5 is Snapdragon, not Exynos.

The link to the S5,

*www.ebay.in/itm/Promotion-Brand-Ne...t=IN_Mobile_Phones&hash=item258e305baf&_uhb=1

I like it too, but was comparing the camera, and it indeed is really poor. I mean the photos look like coming from a 2010 flagship device, which is utterly disappointing to say the least.

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Can I give a different suggestion to get the One plus One if u wanna get a value for money phone without sacrificing performance...

You need to wait though...

No no you can't :lol:

No seriously though, I would rather die before buying anything labelled with Cyanogen, also I only believe in brands who are already reputed rather than upcoming might be reputable brand. Please don't take any offence, but that's my POV.

So I am going for the M8 then I guess? It's quite clear that Sense is WAY ahead in terms of speed and smoothness but that camera is still haunting me, though it shouldn't as I won't be using the camera much!

what about Z2

None..Z2 is much better
But among M8 and S5 ... M8 is better

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Just avoid crapsung

Well snapdragon version ain't kis when compared to any other brand phone. But if you are importing one why not get the Google Play edition oh HTC one.

Neither, keep using your S4 and upgrade to LG G3 at the end of the year..
Why do you wanna ditch your S4 ? I know vibration is really bad but what other reasons ?

Nerevarine said:
Neither, keep using your S4 and upgrade to LG G3 at the end of the year..
Why do you wanna ditch your S4 ? I know vibration is really bad but what other reasons ?

Dude I have sold my S4, it's been a week since then. Vibration issue I will have on S5 too, if I get it that is. But the main concern is build quality. This topic would not even have been created if S5 had same crappy build quality like S4.

M8 is great, but I am seeing too much of these issues, and it's scaring me. I won't have any warranty, so need to make sure fully before buying, so that I won't face any hassles in future. It doesn't seem like hTC's quality control is great. However a lot of users have denied having these problems, so !!!

*forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2694656

*forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2741916

The two main reasons of getting the M8 are, 1- Premium build with durability, and 2- Lovely support from XDA, and Sense is better than TW, that much is proved.

I am not considering the Z2 because of two reasons, 1- I don't believe glass can be durable, nor I like it. 2- It's ridiculously priced, however it will cool off after few days.

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I just don't understand how Moto X beats an S4, M7 in performance! Why would I pay double when the performance is slightly better, in some case slightly even worse? Unbelievable optimization has been done on the X! Jeez!

K

whatthefrak said:
Dude I have sold my S4, it's been a week since then. Vibration issue I will have on S5 too, if I get it that is. But the main concern is build quality. This topic would not even have been created if S5 had same crappy build quality like S4.

M8 is great, but I am seeing too much of these issues, and it's scaring me. I won't have any warranty, so need to make sure fully before buying, so that I won't face any hassles in future. It doesn't seem like hTC's quality control is great. However a lot of users have denied having these problems, so !!!

*forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2694656

*forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2741916

The two main reasons of getting the M8 are, 1- Premium build with durability, and 2- Lovely support from XDA, and Sense is better than TW, that much is proved.

I am not considering the Z2 because of two reasons, 1- I don't believe glass can be durable, nor I like it. 2- It's ridiculously priced, however it will cool off after few days.

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I just don't understand how Moto X beats an S4, M7 in performance! Why would I pay double when the performance is slightly better, in some case slightly even worse? Unbelievable optimization has been done on the X! Jeez!

Why don't you wait for Moto X+1 ( New name

) Its gonna get announced on May 13 According to rumors alongside with Moto E. So you better wait for it.

Lol. After all this I bought a hTC One M7! I was going for the Moto X, but no root ability on 4.4.2 made it a deal breaker. That's it. I have officially stepped down from the nonsense of over hyped spec phone. God knows why I didn't see those YouTube videos before!

Why M7 ? M8 could have been better.

101gamzer said:
Why M7 ? M8 could have been better.

And so does the price difference. There ain't that much of a difference if you let alone the processor.

whatthefrak said:
+ Better custom support.

I think it is the other way around for HTC phones since they are notorious for locked bootloaders. Unless they decided to ship the M8 with an unlocked boot loader.

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Samsung phones are relatively much easier to root and flash.

DeSmOnD dAvId said:
I think it is the other way around for HTC phones since they are notorious for locked bootloaders. Unless they decided to ship the M8 with an unlocked boot loader.

Samsung phones are relatively much easier to root and flash.

Yes, I agree, Samsung root process is way better than any other brand. Just install Odin, and that's practically it. However it's meaningless to just root the phone and then do nothing else. I mean if there is no good kernel or ROM to flash what's the point of rooting at first place? With S4 that was the case, I mean with the Exynos version. Snapdragon one had way better support though.

hTC's rooting process is complicated than Samsung's but geeky nerds like me will make it easy, cause if you do one thing again and again then regardless of it's toughness it will seem easy

Please close this topic now dear mods, it has no purpose for me any more.

Why does Samsung never sell the good stuff here ? when Nexus S launched, they gave us the crap S-LCD version instead of the AMOLEd one
Galaxy note 2, they gave us the crappier version, and s5 they gave us the exynos.. What are we to them ? :lol:

I am having a bad time. Got my M7 today, and found this is a dented, scratched and even slightly cracked phone, which seller sold as like new. Claimed for a refund, don't know what's gonna happen

^^Where dija buy from?

whatthefrak said:
I am having a bad time. Got my M7 today, and found this is a dented, scratched and even slightly cracked phone, which seller sold as like new. Claimed for a refund, don't know what's gonna happen

Purchased from Ebay?

Never buy from ebay.

Yeah, eBay, this particular one, *www.ebay.in/itm/111203403091?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

I've filed the claim without any photos, do you guys think I need to upload photos? Don't have a camera at this moment.

u bought used product, obviously they will try to hide the facts by saying "like new" and "only used for 5 days" etc..
Too bad for you man, you should have bought a new one or atleast an imported one without warranty

Obviously? I'll rather suffer with cancer rather than mentioning a product like new when it's not even half acceptable. Yea that was used, but that arsehole had good feedback, besides I've asked before buying whether there was any scratch or not, and he said, No.
WOW

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Just look at the bezel, a crack below speaker grill, dent everywhere. I'm not even going to the deep scratches on the display! What a shame.

Waiting period won't be as short as that of Flipkart, but wait n see.......

Avoid buying used products from eBay. You can always buy new products from there, considering seller has good feedback

Good seller feedback is always important when buying such things

tat guy has 100% feedback.

whatthefrak said:
Obviously? I'll rather suffer with cancer rather than mentioning a product like new when it's not even half acceptable.

No offense, but thats a pretty silly/idiotic thing to say.. :blink:

ashs1 said:
No offense, but thats a pretty silly/idiotic thing to say..

Maybe to you. No wonder about non-transparent, unprofessional and sh!t mentality of Indians

That arsehole's feedback was great, that's why I bought the item

whatthefrak said:
Maybe to you. No wonder about non-transparent, unprofessional and sh!t mentality of Indians

That arsehole's feedback was great, that's why I bought the item

You should've asked for pictures at least before buying.

My point is, nothing is certain when buying a used product.. Sellers can hide simple facts like this and you can do nothing later on, as they didnt break any said rules.. You may contact ebay regarding this and if you are lucky, you may get a refund .. Be sure to screw that guy's feedback though

.jRay. said:
You should've asked for pictures at least before buying.

Should have, but didn't. However asked the seller repeatedly about the phone's condition.

Nerevarine said:
My point is, nothing is certain when buying a used product.. Sellers can hide simple facts like this and you can do nothing later on, as they didnt break any said rules.. You may contact ebay regarding this and if you are lucky, you may get a refund .. Be sure to screw that guy's feedback though

Lucky? I believe I will get a refund. What I won't get back though is my irritation, all this wasted time. These things should be much more faster than what it is, I mean it's pointless to give the seller a whole ****ing week to respond.

K

OMG ^ ,
Ive just bought Nexus 7 2013 refurbished version from Ebay :O
Fingers crossed

Nah, I'm just having a bad luck at this moment. I'm sure you'll receive a nifty product.

R

congrats but z2 was available on flipkart for 44k if you had waited a month like i suggested you could have gotten it for 39k

though i like M7 design much better than M8 ..

but i hate Htc when it comes to software as they lock the bootloader and 1 can't even root without unlocking bootloader . and relocking bootloader is not possible in most cases..
personal experience

that means either give up on warranty or forget root

at least in sony and samsung , 1 can easily root without unlocking the bootloader and avail the warranty by unrooting ..

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obviously the s5. your issue as far as vibration is more of a personal choice and as far as build goes my 15 month old s3 is doing fine even with a 400 rs cover.

S5 trumps with it's screen, camera, removable cover, dust and water resistant and people may find TW features gimmicky but you can't blame sammy for trying to incorporate features which others cannot even think of.

I saw z2 today at croma it's great looking phone but little bigger than these two. i personally will buy it when the prices comes down.

I would have got the Z2 actually, price wasn't a matter. But it is way too big for me. I am even finding the M7 big. Done with big phones. Z1C will be my next phone.

[MENTION=128082]Don_1[/MENTION]: I have thought about making the S5 move multiple times. It indeed has a gorgeous display, camera is great too, but I personally have no need for a great camera. I have given up on vibration too, all these recent smartphones are crap, however M7 has stronger vibration than S4. But after using Sense for just 48 hours, it's no way back for me to TW. Sorry Samsung, I don't need those features, none of them.

R

whatthefrak said:
I would have got the Z2 actually, price wasn't a matter. But it is way too big for me. I am even finding the M7 big. Done with big phones. Z1C will be my next phone.

[MENTION=128082]Don_1[/MENTION]: I have thought about making the S5 move multiple times. It indeed has a gorgeous display, camera is great too, but I personally have no need for a great camera. I have given up on vibration too, all these recent smartphones are crap, however M7 has stronger vibration than S4. But after using Sense for just 48 hours, it's no way back for me to TW. Sorry Samsung, I don't need those features, none of them.

thats an excellent decision to go for z1 compact . the best part is the screen is IPS itself and of same class as z2 much better than z1 . plus its cheap , camera , performance , looks everything is great

the only problem you might face is coming down from S4 to z1c it will feel quite small to you .. but only a matter of few days ..

then you'll get adjusted ..but go and have an actual experience in the showroom or croma first before buying..

Yeah I know mate. I don't think it will be a huge issue, I mean I am already using the M7, which is 4.7" instead of 5" of my S4, but haven't had that much problem. Of course it's slightly small, but nothing to a point where I am getting disturbed by it. The problem about the Z1C is the low kinda volume on earpiece though, have read lots of comments about that. However there is a volume boosting mod, so that should do the job. Nah mate, I am not going to try it in a store again though, don't have the time or interest.

It's crazy how I am coming down on screen size, had Note 2 with it's monstrous 5.5" display, sold it for it's huge size, then S4, 5", now M7, 4.7", and now Z1C, 4.3". Hmm

R

whatthefrak said:
The problem about the Z1C is the low kinda volume on earpiece though, have read lots of comments about that. However there is a volume boosting mod, so that should do the job.
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That is not a Z1 C problem .. That is the problem of EVERY Sony Phone launched in and after 2012

The output Quality is fine but sony guys Cap the volume levels in all sony phones from Xperia tipo to Xperia Z2 . They do this because of some stupid LAW in Europe and don't bother to fix it for other consumers..

There are 2 famous methods which require root.. only 1 of them will work with the phone so head to Xda and see if it works on Z1 C

I completely rejected buying a Sony phone in 2012 only due to this 1 issue.. Plus 1 issue that i find most irritating is the Onscreen Buttons they just take too much of real estate and they don't hide automatically when say for example playing a game where Screen real estate is too much important atleast in smaller screens ..
ofcourse fixable after rooting and now there is an App for that as well

I love the on screen buttons. They look classy on the device.

$hadow said:
I love the on screen buttons. They look classy on the device.

And take up valuable screen estate

ZTR said:
And take up valuable screen estate

You can hide them after rooting. Or resize.

rish said:
That is not a Z1 C problem .. That is the problem of EVERY Sony Phone launched in and after 2012

The output Quality is fine but sony guys Cap the volume levels in all sony phones from Xperia tipo to Xperia Z2 . They do this because of some stupid LAW in Europe and don't bother to fix it for other consumers..

There are 2 famous methods which require root.. only 1 of them will work with the phone so head to Xda and see if it works on Z1 C

I completely rejected buying a Sony phone in 2012 only due to this 1 issue.. Plus 1 issue that i find most irritating is the Onscreen Buttons they just take too much of real estate and they don't hide automatically when say for example playing a game where Screen real estate is too much important atleast in smaller screens ..
ofcourse fixable after rooting and now there is an App for that as well

WOW! Seems like Sony hasn't learnt any lesson or still arrogant! When I was a long time user of SE the same problem was there, on every handset other then Xperia X1, and I've used 19 SE sets. The worst was the W and K series handsets especially. **** Europe and their law, this ain't Europe!

Anyway this mod should work fine.

About the on screen buttons I hate them, a great way to waste screen real estate. However thanks to root and the GMD app.

^K series were not worst, and even calling them average would be dishonest. They were much much better than the competition that time. Remember the legendary K750i ?

R

whatthefrak said:
WOW! Seems like Sony hasn't learnt any lesson or still arrogant! When I was a long time user of SE the same problem was there, on every handset other then Xperia X1, and I've used 19 SE sets. The worst was the W and K series handsets especially. **** Europe and their law, this ain't Europe!

Anyway this mod should work fine.

About the on screen buttons I hate them, a great way to waste screen real estate. However thanks to root and the GMD app.

good old SE days .. K series was best in cybershot photography .. the competition used to be intense in between Nokia vs SE . K750i was a masterpiece in camera .. you still can't get a 2mp camera as good as that one..

Nokia N95 was the rockstar though.. FU microsoft :evil:

in earpiece music quality live with walkman was great.. dam'n after writing about it my memories remind me of this awesome awesome awesome Song and ad made by sony. do listen to it

*www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvkRPTQc0PY

everytime i listen to it wish it had a full version

now they focus on the loudspeaker with xloud which are awesome by the way.. but not made for folks like us who love Earphones..

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and regarding onscreen buttons whenever i think about it makes me wanna kill the guy who implemented this..

waste of screen + waste of bezels space..

Probably the second worst decision made in android history, the first one being the Removal of App2Sd feature in android 4.1 and later.. and they are going more crazy with android 4.4 with SD card restriction

rooting is there but why piss the customer off with trouble of DIY ? why does he has to decide between either pick warranty ( in most cases bootloader needs to be unlocked to get root) or pick the old features that made what android is today

Manufacturers should give us the option between the two like Oneplus one lol

dashing.sujay said:
^K series were not worst, and even calling them average would be dishonest. They were much much better than the competition that time. Remember the legendary K750i ?

Well not all K series, but some of them were pretty average. But yes K750i was AWESOME. It was a legendary phone indeed.

rish said:
good old SE days .. K series was best in cybershot photography .. the competition used to be intense in between Nokia vs SE . K750i was a masterpiece in camera .. you still can't get a 2mp camera as good as that one..

Nokia N95 was the rockstar though.. FU microsoft

in earpiece music quality live with walkman was great.. dam'n after writing about it my memories remind me of this awesome awesome awesome Song and ad made by sony. do listen to it

*www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvkRPTQc0PY

everytime i listen to it wish it had a full version

now they focus on the loudspeaker with xloud which are awesome by the way.. but not made for folks like us who love Earphones..

Oh mate, you made me nostalgic. The day I purchased the K750i was one of the most exciting days for me, still is. I just kept taking photos of everything. What a phone it was. However it lasted just 21 days, why? Cause the K790i was released and I sold the K750i at less than half price and got the K790i. Xenon flash, Burst mode, uff. Still remember how the SE India website was advertising it with those birds flying around and the phone was taking a burst shot of that. I gave it to my cousin later, who is still using it, it's been more than seven years. And I felt so glad when I went to see Casio Royale and saw Daniel Craig using the same white version of it. That was some feeling which I can't express.
About W series phones, my favourite was the W850i, loved it. And for build quality the W990i was my favourite. However I hated the move from Mega Bass to Clear Bass. Cause that time I didn't know that that was a good move.

But overall my favourite SE was P1i. That was a phone I kept coming back. Next should be Xperia X1. And the poorest one would be W580i, didn't like it that much, however used it for pretty long.

N95 was another jewel. To be honest it was a perfect phone from all angle. Awesome call quality, great stereo speakers, brilliant screen, unique media button slider, and I think the camera was great too. Have to say Nokia always knew how to make a phone like a phone, and that time I was a Nokia hater, cause I used to see everyone use Nokia and I felt disgusted by that. No one even cared to look at any other handset other than Nokia.

rish said:
and regarding onscreen buttons whenever i think about it makes me wanna kill the guy who implemented this..

waste of screen + waste of bezels space..

Probably the second worst decision made in android history, the first one being the Removal of App2Sd feature in android 4.1 and later.. and they are going more crazy with android 4.4 with SD card restriction

rooting is there but why piss the customer off with trouble of DIY ? why does he has to decide between either pick warranty ( in most cases bootloader needs to be unlocked to get root) or pick the old features that made what android is today

Yeah. ****ing pathetic decision. On screen buttons, my arse.

It feels great that I am coming back to Sony after such a long plasticky time

And just wish me best of luck for the eBay refund and that it goes smoothly, so that I can get the Z1C ASAP.

Why don't u consider Apple 5s then

amjath said:
Why don't u consider Apple 5s then

One reason is iOS, and the main reason is I don't consider a fragile thing as a mobile phone, not even remotely.

Besides I've used iP 5S for one week. Don't want go back to that same brilliant experience

then g3 is what u need to look after

It'll be the 9th day tomorrow since I've filed the complaint, yet eBay keeps saying 'we'll revert back soon to you with an update'. Lovely

whatthefrak said:
It'll be the 9th day tomorrow since I've filed the complaint, yet eBay keeps saying 'we'll revert back soon to you with an update'. Lovely

If u use public/government bank for transaction it will take time, if it is private it will be quicker.

amjath said:
If u use public/government bank for transaction it will take time, if it is private it will be quicker.

I'm talking about the refund mate. I just need a confirmation that I will get it, then they can take time.

I don't use PSU banks for online transactions ever.

whatthefrak said:
I'm talking about the refund mate. I just need a confirmation that I will get it, then they can take time.

I don't use PSU banks for online transactions ever.

Don't worry u will get it soon. They might be negotiating with the seller

amjath said:
Don't worry u will get it soon. They might be negotiating with the seller

I just hope they are and everything goes smooth.

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why no Nexus 5?

I think I'm starting to get an idea of drawbacks of metal build. With S4 I could get a GPS lock in less than thirty seconds, with M7 it's taking almost 3 minutes to get a lock, and even when I get a lock it's not picking half satellites as S4 would have picked. Hmm!

K

whatthefrak said:
I think I'm starting to get an idea of drawbacks of metal build. With S4 I could get a GPS lock in less than thirty seconds, with M7 it's taking almost 3 minutes to get a lock, and even when I get a lock it's not picking half satellites as S4 would have picked. Hmm!

Not it does not depend on that metal or plastic build!
If that would be the case the 5C and 5S would see a substantial GPS difference!

It might be a software glitch!

I don't believe it's a software glitch! I am on stock ROM, so if the glitch is there it's HTC's problem one way or another.

However it could be a less capable hardware too.

whatthefrak said:
I don't believe it's a software glitch! I am on stock ROM, so if the glitch is there it's HTC's problem one way or another.

However it could be a less capable hardware too.

U r right metal blocks signals

*www.laptopgpsworld.com/4117-what-can-interfere-gps-signal

amjath said:
U r right metal blocks signals

*www.laptopgpsworld.com/4117-what-can-interfere-gps-signal

Well I think I am. One is definitely slower than S4.

*www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-A8QcS5YV8

From 2:10 to 5:18

K

whatthefrak said:
I don't believe it's a software glitch! I am on stock ROM, so if the glitch is there it's HTC's problem one way or another.

However it could be a less capable hardware too.

Then build issues surely!
I think you should discuss in XDA!
They have very beautiful support system out there for One!

Learning things more and more. The NAND on M7 is garbage. Enough of hTC nonsense. Unbelievable! I will never curse Samsung any more

.jRay. said:
You can hide them after rooting. Or resize.

Even without rooting on KitKat

use Power toggles and trigger immersive mode in ANY app.

@op if you love rooting and modding then you should have gone for Nexus 5. "Official modders phone" :lol:

N5 is first when it comes to ROMs, Kernel, Tweaks and other OS.

whatthefrak said:
Learning things more and more. The NAND on M7 is garbage. Enough of hTC nonsense. Unbelievable! I will never curse Samsung any more

What do you mean by NAND? Nandroid backup? Or NAND storage?

NAND storage. For no reason it keeps deleting my downloaded files, WTF is this nuisance!

No, I am not interested in heavy modding. I just use a custom and stable kernel, with Xposed and Gravity box that's all, from personal experience I have understood that there are no ROM as stable as stock ROM.

whatthefrak said:
Okay, buying one coming Tuesday or Wednesday. Now which one would you get? By S5 I obviously don't mean the sh!t Exynos one.

This is how I sorted out positives and negatives for both,

S5:

+ Better camera. I am not even going to the comparison with M8.
+ Better size, and overall grip. M8 is slippery.
+ Hardware buttons.
+ IP67 certification, this might come handy, might not, should not be a deciding factor.
+ 15 grams lighter!
+ USB 3.0? Hmm

- Plastic. Uff However with far superior build quality than S4!
- Far lesser custom support from XDA! No one likes Samsung!
- Meaningless features and bloats!

M8:

+ Build quality and materials. Comparing plastic with Aluminium is meaningless.
+ Those boom speakers. I will never use them for multimedia purpose but having it for calls is great.
+ Better custom support.
+ UI is much much faster and responsive than TW.

- Undeniably the camera. However I don't use camera much at all.
- On screen buttons, hate the idea!
- Have heard ASS of hTC India is poor!

Which one would you pick? Remember, the S5 is Snapdragon, not Exynos.

The link to the S5,

*www.ebay.in/itm/Promotion-Brand-Ne...t=IN_Mobile_Phones&hash=item258e305baf&_uhb=1

In case you are eying the M8---
Dont forget that you have to pay Rs 10,000 more for an inferior camera, Micromax-class After Sales Service,poor design decisions (the on screen buttons was a big mistake) and association with a Chinese brand that cant even compare to its countrymen Lenovo or Huawei in terms of brand quality. Slapping an aluminium body on the face wont make it classy. Remember what our parents said- "its not whats outside, but inside, that matters"

oh wait, i think thats a quote from a Disney movie..

The only thing that makes the M8 worth owning is that it reinforces the fact that no matter how many times you screw up and break down, if you have a successful daddy, you will hold some worth in this world.
Its a lesson in reality. Daddy "HTC One" uses Apple technique to convince the dumber demographic of fandroids to spend wads of cash on it, which helps pay for the spoilt useless children like the HTC Desire series. Fandroids be like "hmmm, bap to accha aadmi hai, beta bhi accha hoga" (Its called the Bachhan Paradigm).
... But hey cant blame Chinese Dad, since Korean Dad Galaxy S2 did the same for its crappy children and pushed the Samsung parivaar to the #1 Family position in the mobile world..

Wait, wat am i saying.. gotta get off the internet...

Well I learned the hard way. No metal phones for me. They are a signal blocker. If I even let the GPS issue go, the normal phone signal receive capability is way poorer than a plastic phone. I was in my friend's home yesterday and I saw one bar (and some times no signal at all) and asked him hey is it normal that somehow signal gets block in your room? He said don't know man, then took his S4 and see that it was steady at 3 or 4 bars (4 is full here).

So that's done, decided. I don't know whether I am getting the S5 or not, but I ain't getting any metal phones that's for sure.

I can get the XZ1C as I thought I would. But the display might seem really small to me. I can get the Z2 but still don't like those huge bezels and it's the largest 5.2" display! God knows what will I buy!

Why dont you get G2 lol?
It has good display,dev support,camera etc in short everything is good

K

Whatthefrak there is no perfect phone available over the market at any price range.. You need to adapt some of the flaws.. All you need to do is select the one which cater your need.

ztr said:
why dont you get g2 lol?
It has good display,dev support,camera etc in short everything is good

B u i l d Q u a l i t y

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kalam_gohab said:
Whatthefrak there is no perfect phone available over the market at any price range.. You need to adapt some of the flaws.. All you need to do is select the one which cater your need.

Absolutely.

whatthefrak said:
B u i l d Q u a l i t y

Then wait for G3 which has a better build

Or you can wait for the plastic HTC M8

K

Yeah better idea.. Plastic HTC m8 is HTC one m8 Ace

R

buy this

HTC One (E8) announced with Snapdragon 801, plastic body - GSMArena.com news

no ultrapixel

price is 450 $ in china .. so even it is 500-550 $ here .. it is still great

good job htc if you can come up with that price here..