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Sad But True: Battlefield is Too Hardcore to Overthrow Call of Duty

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vickybat
vickybat Original post #1
Jul 31, 2011 at 1:16 AM
The title says it all. I guess i don't have much to comment on this. So better read it guys:

Source
skeletor
Jul 31, 2011 at 3:37 AM
CoD stagnated long time ago. Sorry to use the word, but Activision is whoring the shite out of the franchise. EA will soon follow the suit for Battlefield as EA are morons too.
vickybat
Jul 31, 2011 at 10:10 AM
EA knows exactly what they are doing and even has the right formula to overthrow the mighty COD franchise. What they are doing is right cause they know that their product is capable of making serious money. If they find big success with BF3 mantra, then i guess there is no harm in pushing it in further iterations of the franchise.

Other publishers are finding a fu**ing hard time to catch up with these two heavyweights.
gameranand
Jul 31, 2011 at 10:37 AM
Its possible even in this year that EA can overthrow COD. Why simply because there is much more hype for BF3 than COD and thats something if not everything.
jayantr7
Jul 31, 2011 at 12:05 PM
COD made this much hype just because there was no title to compare with the COD franchise. Now EA has Battlefield! Let's see if BF3 can overthrow COD:MW3.
gameranand
Jul 31, 2011 at 12:16 PM
COD made this much hype just because there was no title to compare with the COD franchise. Now EA has Battlefield! Let's see if BF3 can overthrow COD:MW3.
No you can't say that. It had competition they didn't performed as well as COD did. It had MOH series and Battlefield series as competitors its now when EA is serious about best FPS crown and are doing everything to get it.
Gtb93
Gtb93 #7
Jul 31, 2011 at 12:48 PM
There's this big hype over all this.
But mark my words, I'm sure MW3 will perform better than BF3. Overall sales, I mean :p
Time and time, BF, was always spoken highly of, but never delivered. Ofcourse, a better engine, eye-jizzing graphics, but yet, COD somehow has the upper hand.
Especially with Makarov yet to die, and the amazing Multiplayer, that mw3 will have, I'm sure it will outshine BF
Faun
Faun #8
Jul 31, 2011 at 1:10 PM
stupid article
skeletor
Jul 31, 2011 at 7:25 PM
EA knows exactly what they are doing and even has the right formula to overthrow the mighty COD franchise. What they are doing is right cause they know that their product is capable of making serious money. If they find big success with BF3 mantra, then i guess there is no harm in pushing it in further iterations of the franchise.

Other developers are finding a fu**ing hard time to catch up with these two heavyweights.
publishers. :neutral:

Just don't forget Dragon Age II - average and rushed game. That's what happens when publisher (EA) puts so much pressure on the developer (BioWare). Result = you get an average game after a masterpiece.

Obviously if these rags (EA and Activision) will take-over every developer out there, others will find a hard time catching up.
Time and time, BF, was always spoken highly of, but never delivered. Ofcourse, a better engine, eye-jizzing graphics, but yet, COD somehow has the upper hand.
Hype + marketing employed by publishers. Nothing else and hooplah among retards. An average game like CoD:BO sells the most. Just tells you 99% of gheymerz don't have a perspective.
T
Jul 31, 2011 at 7:49 PM
It's at times like these that you wish you were just an indie development company , with no pressure from the publisher to release your games. Result? You get pure awesomeness.
gameranand
Jul 31, 2011 at 8:19 PM
publishers. :neutral:

Just don't forget Dragon Age II - average and rushed game. That's what happens when publisher (EA) puts so much pressure on the developer (BioWare). Result = you get an average game after a masterpiece.

Obviously if these rags (EA and Activision) will take-over every developer out there, others will find a hard time catching up.

Hype + marketing employed by publishers. Nothing else and hooplah among retards. An average game like CoD:BO sells the most. Just tells you 99% of gheymerz don't have a perspective.
100% true ico. DAO was such a nice game and then came DA2 just after some months when Bioware stopped making DLC for DAO. And we are here with the result.

Similarly COD BO is a poorly optimized game ans worst in COD series but with biggest sales. I mean WTF ???
J
Joker #12
Jul 31, 2011 at 8:33 PM
yup..i share gameranand and ICO's sentiments here. activision & ea are all about making money. they dont really care about you as a consumer.

*www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=EA

*www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=activision

also have a look at how EA destroyed nfs.
Faun
Faun #13
Jul 31, 2011 at 9:40 PM
Time and time, BF, was always spoken highly of, but never delivered. Ofcourse, a better engine, eye-jizzing graphics, but yet, COD somehow has the upper hand.

The wut ?
vickybat
vickybat #16
Aug 1, 2011 at 12:15 PM
publishers. :neutral::

Thanks for correcting. Post edited.:smile:

Just don't forget Dragon Age II - average and rushed game. That's what happens when publisher (EA) puts so much pressure on the developer (BioWare). Result = you get an average game after a masterpiece.

Apart from a few, sequels are always like that. After tasting success with a particular franchise, the publisher forces the developers to bring out a sequel in a limited time frame. So the end result like you said isn't good enough.

But this does not happen always. Eg - The mass effect series by the same developer i.e BIOWARE. Me2 was a lot improved Me1 and really build upon its predecessor. Was a huge hit and the upcoming Me3 is also building a lot of hype and i guess will again repeat the same success story.

Another developer NAUGHTYDOG did the same with its uncharted series. The first game was a hit and showed the world the real power of ps3.
But the 2nd game i.e uncharted 2 met critical acclaim winning unanimous multiple game of the year awards. .



Obviously if these rags (EA and Activision) will take-over every developer out there, others will find a hard time catching up.

Hype + marketing employed by publishers. Nothing else and hooplah among retards. An average game like CoD:BO sells the most. Just tells you 99% of gheymerz don't have a perspective.

Well COD-BO is not an average game by any means. The COD franchise is build as such that lets a player get involved in the game's many scripted dramatic events ( cut scenes) that are thrilling to watch for most gamers. Now you don't like COD and that's totally your personal opinion.

But i don't think that the million COD players who bought the game and enjoyed it are retards by any means. You see, now it even has broken some world records. Devs will always need the right recipe no matter how smart they are. Infinityward and treyarch seems to have acquired the same.

Battlefield 3 looks strong , features amazing graphics, physics and gameplay. Multiplayer looks promising too. Now if it packs a decent enough story, then it will be a worthy opponent to the cod franchise. Many big developers couldn't dethrone COD and i don't think they were smart enough and had the right recipe either.
Zangetsu
Zangetsu #17
Aug 1, 2011 at 1:23 PM
COD MW was the best in overall COD series & MW2 after it...

BF3 will be a treat to all gamers
xtremevicky
Aug 1, 2011 at 2:14 PM
I loved MW 2 . Havent played Battlefield but the demo did not impress me much .

Lets see !
J
Joker #19
Aug 1, 2011 at 5:33 PM
Well COD-BO is not an average game by any means.
tl;dr.

Call of Duty: Black Ops for PC Reviews, Ratings, Credits, and More at Metacritic

see the user score..totally average. and dont comment if u havent played it. i have played it...it is average. so is crysis 2 except for the gfx. bo has neither. ;)

*arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/04/infinity-ward-staff-sues-activision-for-500-million.ars

infinity ward doesnt have their old devs any more. some lead devs were fired and some have left.
skeletor
skeletor #20
Aug 1, 2011 at 7:40 PM
Well COD-BO is not an average game by any means. The COD franchise is build as such that lets a player get involved in the game's many scripted dramatic events ( cut scenes) that are thrilling to watch for most gamers. Now you don't like COD and that's totally your personal opinion.

But i don't think that the million COD players who bought the game and enjoyed it are retards by any means. You see, now it even has broken some world records. Devs will always need the right recipe no matter how smart they are. Infinityward and treyarch seems to have acquired the same.
Haven't said that I dislike CoD (the fanchise). It's only that I like good games. Glitches, regressed graphics + multi-player and a console port is not what you buy for $60. (Black Ops - not an opinion, but a FACKT)

*i.imgur.com/k8F8Y.png
gameranand
Aug 1, 2011 at 8:18 PM
But this does not happen always. Eg - The mass effect series by the same developer i.e BIOWARE. Me2 was a lot improved Me1 and really build upon its predecessor. Was a huge hit and the upcoming Me3 is also building a lot of hype and i guess will again repeat the same success story.
Do you know how much time Bioware got for ME and ME2???
Development of ME started in 2005 and they released it in Nov 2007.
Deveopment of ME2 started after ME of course as there is just one DLC for ME and quite honestly it was hyped or anything at all and it was just a Deja-Vu. ME2 released in Mar 2010.
Now ME3's development nearly started with ME2 release as Bioware already previously said that it will be trilogy and even if they started after DLCs then also they got more than a year complete right.

What about DA2??? Just some months??

Well COD-BO is not an average game by any means. The COD franchise is build as such that lets a player get involved in the game's many scripted dramatic events ( cut scenes) that are thrilling to watch for most gamers. Now you don't like COD and that's totally your personal opinion.

But i don't think that the million COD players who bought the game and enjoyed it are retards by any means. You see, now it even has broken some world records. Devs will always need the right recipe no matter how smart they are. Infinityward and treyarch seems to have acquired the same.
tl;dr.

Call of Duty: Black Ops for PC Reviews, Ratings, Credits, and More at Metacritic

see the user score..totally average. and dont comment if u havent played it. i have played it...it is average. so is crysis 2 except for the gfx. bo has neither. ;)

Infinity Ward staff sues Activision for up to $500 million

infinity ward doesnt have their old devs any more. some lead devs were fired and some have left.

Haven't said that I dislike CoD (the fanchise). It's only that I like good games. Glitches, regressed graphics + multi-player and a console port is not what you buy for $60. (Black Ops - not an opinion, but a FACKT)

*i.imgur.com/k8F8Y.png
I agree with ico and Joker on this one. I played this game its less than average for me quite honestly.
Zangetsu
Zangetsu #22
Aug 1, 2011 at 9:06 PM
Black Ops has only good graphics & a mediocre story...but is buggy
asingh
asingh #23
Aug 1, 2011 at 9:16 PM
Black OPs was a lame game, riding on the success of the series.
vickybat
vickybat #24
Aug 1, 2011 at 11:24 PM
Guys cool down. Its just a discussion.:grin:

@ ico

Well you are commenting on the multiplayer part. I have never played black ops multiplayer , so can't comment. But the single player experience was quite good especially the vietnam section and when you get to play as dimitri from call of duty world at war.

I found the story cool and not bad at all. The game was short as with all cod games but it wasn't bad.

But what do you think about the other devs i.e infinityward? Mw and mw2 were both great titles and i guess mw3 will live upto its name. Check out the E3 gameplay footage.

@ joker

Errr, i have played black-ops. Here's the proof:

*i52.tinypic.com/6is1mq.jpg

You can see the cod-bo icons.
vickybat
vickybat #26
Aug 2, 2011 at 12:12 AM
^^ Then what's that screen shot for? What does it signify? I didn't get it actually.

Is it a voting system or no. of players count?
skeletor
skeletor #27
Aug 2, 2011 at 12:25 AM
Number of players count. Steam is the exclusive platform to play CoD:MW2 and BO if you own the game.

Also note, the article you have posted here is all talking about the multi-player part. That's what people buy FPS games for.
vickybat
vickybat #28
Aug 2, 2011 at 12:32 AM
^^ Ok got it.
sygeek
sygeek #29
Aug 2, 2011 at 3:28 AM
*i.imgur.com/3hgOD.jpg