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Samsung M series

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meetdilip
meetdilip Original post #1
Feb 22, 2019 at 5:08 PM
The so called Redmi killer from Samsung. What does the reviews say about the M series ?
B
Feb 22, 2019 at 6:59 PM
Looks nice for starters except that notch. The reviews are also good but unfortunately most of them are paid or sponsored.
Zangetsu
Feb 22, 2019 at 7:27 PM
M30 looks more promising as of now
meetdilip
Feb 23, 2019 at 12:21 PM
How is the camera ? Display seems good.
omega44-xt
Feb 25, 2019 at 9:56 PM
M20 has decent display even though TFT, comparable to IPS from Xiaomi, Asus, etc but the camera is inferior to RN6P & Asus Max Pro M2. Still, as an overall package, it is good for normal usage, gamers should get Asus Max Pro M2. Battery life is the highlight of M20.

Considering its Samsung, its a good choice for people like my parents who don't trust Chinese brands easily. Earlier J series was absolute shit compared to Chinese offerings.
omega44-xt
Feb 25, 2019 at 9:58 PM
Looks nice for starters except that notch. The reviews are also good but unfortunately most of them are paid or sponsored.
I'd prefer than notch on S10 rather than camera cut out which makes the notification bar wider.
J
jenikid #11
Feb 27, 2019 at 2:50 PM
When is the release date?
thetechfreak
Feb 28, 2019 at 12:35 AM
The New M20 actually looks decent specs and pricing wise. Actually considering it as my next phone. Let's see.
B
Mar 1, 2019 at 12:59 AM
The New M20 actually looks decent specs and pricing wise. Actually considering it as my next phone. Let's see.
Their A series is also released today, do check it out before buying one. Samsung will F themselves with so many releases.
omega44-xt
Mar 1, 2019 at 1:29 AM
Their A series is also released today, do check it out before buying one. Samsung will F themselves with so many releases.
They are following Xiaomi's approach. The 2-3k difference is decent enough for some upgrades over the inferior model. That being said A30 at 17k doesn't seem worth buying when you have M30 at 15k & A50 at 20k.
meetdilip
meetdilip #16
Mar 1, 2019 at 10:27 AM
How is the Exynos processor in M20 and M30 ?
B
Mar 1, 2019 at 11:41 PM
They are following Xiaomi's approach. The 2-3k difference is decent enough for some upgrades over the inferior model. That being said A30 at 17k doesn't seem worth buying when you have M30 at 15k & A50 at 20k.
M, A series have a total of 6 phones as of now. Xiaomi does not release these many.
Zangetsu
Zangetsu #18
Mar 2, 2019 at 2:12 PM
Lets see how the under 20k M series performs now, as the old sub 20k phones were laggy
omega44-xt
Mar 2, 2019 at 8:30 PM
M, A series have a total of 6 phones as of now. Xiaomi does not release these many.
They have Redmi 6a, 6, 6 Pro, Y2, Note, Note Pro(s) & Mi A2, all between 6-15k. They have more than 6 different models in a 10k price band.
omega44-xt
Mar 2, 2019 at 8:31 PM
How is the Exynos processor in M20 and M30 ?
Somewhere between S625 & S636, so good enough for normal tasks, gamers should get S660 powered phones under 15k like Asus Pro M2, RN7 or RN7 Pro.
quicky008
quicky008 #21
Mar 2, 2019 at 9:25 PM
is the exynos 7904 better than the sd 625 that was featured in many popular phones such as redmi note 5?
Zangetsu
Zangetsu #22
Mar 2, 2019 at 10:31 PM
is the exynos 7904 better than the sd 625 that was featured in many popular phones such as redmi note 5?
Yes, 625 is outdated and cannot match 7904.

But SD675 nails the competition here
quicky008
quicky008 #23
Mar 2, 2019 at 10:33 PM
if that's the case it shouldn't be too bad,how does it hold up when it comes to gaming?do these chipsets overheat while running cpu-intensive apps?
Zangetsu
Zangetsu #24
Mar 2, 2019 at 10:39 PM
if that's the case it shouldn't be too bad,how does it hold up when it comes to gaming?do these chipsets overheat while running cpu-intensive apps?
You can play graphic intensive games on this such as PUBG, Asphalt etc.
quicky008
quicky008 #25
Mar 2, 2019 at 10:57 PM
were some reviewers on youtube exaggerating when they said 7904 is not suitable for gaming?
Zangetsu
Zangetsu #26
Mar 3, 2019 at 12:10 AM
were some reviewers on youtube exaggerating when they said 7904 is not suitable for gaming?
I think they mean not for HEAVY gamers, which is true
omega44-xt
Mar 3, 2019 at 8:20 AM
if that's the case it shouldn't be too bad,how does it hold up when it comes to gaming?do these chipsets overheat while running cpu-intensive apps?
Most phones have decent thermals nowadays. Every phone will heat up if you use it for gaming for an extended duration, like 30min+.
B
Mar 3, 2019 at 2:44 PM
were some reviewers on youtube exaggerating when they said 7904 is not suitable for gaming?
Don't trust YT reviews, most of them are sponsored.
quicky008
quicky008 #29
Mar 3, 2019 at 6:52 PM
^can you specify some channels that upload sponsored vids? afaik there's one by the name of technical guruji (or some other such nonsense) who posts favourable reviews even for phones that dont deserve it-clearly,he does it for money.

How about others like c4etech,geekyranjit and so on?Are those guys trustworthy?Posting unboxing and review videos of popular handsets has clearly worked out very well for them,as is evidenced by their luxurious and opulent liftestyles(a couple of months back that ranjit fellow was flaunting a 4k samsung tv which he proudly proclaimed that he had purchased for 4 lakhs or thereabouts!).I think their lavish income results from the huge sponsorships they receive from phone manufacturers,as well as the revenue generated from youtube.
Zangetsu
Zangetsu #30
Mar 3, 2019 at 7:15 PM
Instead of finding sponsored reviewers, just gather enough data from all the reviews and then apply your conscience whether to buy or not.
Bcoz in the end you will be the consumer getting the benefit from the device.

And buying a phone is not complicated.All you need is the priority points to be full-filled and thats it.
quicky008
quicky008 #31
Mar 3, 2019 at 7:38 PM
i wanted to know who those sponsored reviewers were so that i could avoid their channels-i have a clear aversion to such biased content.

although companies like xiaomi and asus offer more features,i was thinking of buying a samsung phone as they tend to have better cameras and more vibrant displays.In particular,i find the m30 rather alluring with its good feature set and reasonable price point,but was a bit worried when some reviewers claimed that its not suited for gaming even for casual gamers who only play titles like pubg,asphalt etc occasionally.

in the past many samsung phones were plagued by laggy uis and poor battery life,but i suppose thats no longer an issue as their recent offerings have improved upon these factors considerably.
Zangetsu
Zangetsu #32
Mar 3, 2019 at 8:33 PM
Shadow Fight 3 and PUBG (Extreme settings) testing
omega44-xt
Mar 3, 2019 at 8:59 PM
^can you specify some channels that upload sponsored vids? afaik there's one by the name of technical guruji (or some other such nonsense) who posts favourable reviews even for phones that dont deserve it-clearly,he does it for money.

How about others like c4etech,geekyranjit and so on?Are those guys trustworthy?Posting unboxing and review videos of popular handsets has clearly worked out very well for them,as is evidenced by their luxurious and opulent liftestyles(a couple of months back that ranjit fellow was flaunting a 4k samsung tv which he proudly proclaimed that he had purchased for 4 lakhs or thereabouts!).I think their lavish income results from the huge sponsorships they receive from phone manufacturers,as well as the revenue generated from youtube.
Watch multiple reviews. I watch Geekyranjit & C4ETech mostly, but sometimes iGyaan as well. I found them to be good. I didn't like Technical Guruji, even though he has a lot of subscribers. Amit Bhawani is good as well. I would say getting paid for good reviews is not a good thing for both company & the reviewer as if can blow back hard if link is established.

Unrelated - I feel Dave Lee is getting paid as some of his laptop reviews contradict what others say. Best example is Alienware m15, which most people at reddit & other small YouTubers say heats a lot but can be controlled by undervolting but Dave Lee said it had good thermals. Same with notebookcheck. I feel Alienware paid both of them.
omega44-xt
Mar 3, 2019 at 9:07 PM
i wanted to know who those sponsored reviewers were so that i could avoid their channels-i have a clear aversion to such biased content.

although companies like xiaomi and asus offer more features,i was thinking of buying a samsung phone as they tend to have better cameras and more vibrant displays.In particular,i find the m30 rather alluring with its good feature set and reasonable price point,but was a bit worried when some reviewers claimed that its not suited for gaming even for casual gamers who only play titles like pubg,asphalt etc occasionally.

in the past many samsung phones were plagued by laggy uis and poor battery life,but i suppose thats no longer an issue as their recent offerings have improved upon these factors considerably.

There has been S636 under 15k for almost a year now & Samsung releases phones with SoC weaker than that when S660 is available under 15k, even S675 now. So obviously its not good for heavy games now, doesn't matter if you play it for 5 mins or 1 hr. The phones needs a good CPU & GPU to render the game properly without frame drops & that Exynos isn't powerful enough in 2019 for heavy games. PUBG & Asphalt are considered graphics intensive games.

According to reviews camera of M20 is a bit inferior to RN6P, M2, etc, but the gap isn't too big to have a day & night difference. M30 definitely has a great screen & is a decent choice for people who won't game (or play just casual games like temple run, angry birds, etc). But I think Geekyranjit said that M20 has some stutters here & there, which if due to low power SoC, will be present in M30. RN7P might have the best camera & performance under 15k but I would still suggest people Asus Pro M2 if they don't have gaming & photography as top priorities.
B
Mar 3, 2019 at 9:20 PM
^can you specify some channels that upload sponsored vids? afaik there's one by the name of technical guruji (or some other such nonsense) who posts favourable reviews even for phones that dont deserve it-clearly,he does it for money.

How about others like c4etech,geekyranjit and so on?Are those guys trustworthy?Posting unboxing and review videos of popular handsets has clearly worked out very well for them,as is evidenced by their luxurious and opulent liftestyles(a couple of months back that ranjit fellow was flaunting a 4k samsung tv which he proudly proclaimed that he had purchased for 4 lakhs or thereabouts!).I think their lavish income results from the huge sponsorships they receive from phone manufacturers,as well as the revenue generated from youtube.

i wanted to know who those sponsored reviewers were so that i could avoid their channels-i have a clear aversion to such biased content.

although companies like xiaomi and asus offer more features,i was thinking of buying a samsung phone as they tend to have better cameras and more vibrant displays.In particular,i find the m30 rather alluring with its good feature set and reasonable price point,but was a bit worried when some reviewers claimed that its not suited for gaming even for casual gamers who only play titles like pubg,asphalt etc occasionally.

in the past many samsung phones were plagued by laggy uis and poor battery life,but i suppose thats no longer an issue as their recent offerings have improved upon these factors considerably.
This is the problem you can't say which is a paid video, end of the line. From personal experience being a Samsung user all my life, you can bet on the SE/One ui, it is dope. Once you use it, you won't even switch to stock.
Shadow Fight 3 and PUBG (Extreme settings) testing
I can bet her background is commerce or arts with no deep knowledge of the tech world. She is getting reviews because a she's a girl and b because of her makeup. No offence to her though.
omega44-xt
Mar 3, 2019 at 10:26 PM
This is the problem you can't say which is a paid video, end of the line. From personal experience being a Samsung user all my life, you can bet on the SE/One ui, it is dope. Once you use it, you won't even switch to stock.

I can bet her background is commerce or arts with no deep knowledge of the tech world. She is getting reviews because a she's a girl and b because of her makeup. No offence to her though.
Checking multiple reviews help to spot a paid review, if any, like in case of Alienware m15. Also, user reviews especially from knowledgable people, like in reddit, helps. I doubt there will be good reviews for Indian mid-rangers in reddit or xda. Some phones do have it, not all. People at xda will avoid Samsung due to Exynos & it isn't the best specs at all, which many android enthusiasts love for some reason, sometimes leading to overkill specs like display resolution (!440p & 4K) & RAM (anything over 6GB), which are useless for most people.

Pretty face for public front does help. Even GSMArena seems to be doing it. Looks definitely helped iJustine IMO.
B
Mar 3, 2019 at 10:31 PM
Checking multiple reviews help to spot a paid review, if any, like in case of Alienware m15. Also, user reviews especially from knowledgable people, like in reddit, helps. I doubt there will be good reviews for Indian mid-rangers in reddit or xda. Some phones do have it, not all. People at xda will avoid Samsung due to Exynos & it isn't the best specs at all, which many android enthusiasts love for some reason, sometimes leading to overkill specs like display resolution (!440p & 4K) & RAM (anything over 6GB), which are useless for most people.

Pretty face for public front does help. Even GSMArena seems to be doing it. Looks definitely helped iJustine IMO.

I trust the specs and reviews/comments by members in forums like here at tdf. I would choose replies of you guys over ijustine or that makeup girl, only for phones/laptops ;)
Zangetsu
Zangetsu #38
Mar 4, 2019 at 12:26 AM
I prefer Linus Tech Tips and he talks more about knowledge and gives good reviews :)

Ijustine is already a Rich lady in youtube. (if you watch her collection of tech gadgets, then u will say meh...wastage of money).

Seems like we are diverting from the main Topic...back to Topic now.

If you ask me to pickup between Redmi Note 7 Pro & M30 then I will pick M30
bcoz of two specific reasons:
1. Super AMOLED
2. Bigger Battery

I am pretty sure that M30 will give good battery backup when compared with Note 7 Pro.

But if you want Excellent design + Awesome Camera + Gaming performance then Note 7 pro.
quicky008
quicky008 #39
Mar 4, 2019 at 5:30 AM
^true,but ads in UI is still a major deterrent for buying that phone.
quicky008
quicky008 #41
Mar 4, 2019 at 5:36 AM
I was watching a review video of the note 7 pro recently,couldn't help noticing that the colors on its display looked really rather dull and washed out.Does it have a regular TFT panel or an IPS lcd?

Is it true that amoled/superamoled screens tend to wear out faster than normal tft/ips displays due to screen burn-in issues?
B
Mar 4, 2019 at 5:37 AM
I was watching a review video of the note 7 pro recently,couldn't help noticing that the colors on its display looked really rather dull and washed out.Does it have a regular TFT panel or an IPS lcd?

Is it true that amoled/superamoled screens tend to wear out faster than regular displays due to screen burn-in issues?

About your second question, if they are from Samsung or LG then you can sleep without worrying.
omega44-xt
Mar 4, 2019 at 10:05 PM
I was watching a review video of the note 7 pro recently,couldn't help noticing that the colors on its display looked really rather dull and washed out.Does it have a regular TFT panel or an IPS lcd?

Is it true that amoled/superamoled screens tend to wear out faster than normal tft/ips displays due to screen burn-in issues?
I used an RN4 few years ago when I was using a Sony Z3C & I thought it was a good display. I don't think Xiaomi drastically reduced the quality of its IPS LCDs. If you are regularly using a phone with much superior display (especially AMOLED), RN7P should look not so good to you.

There was a Galaxy S2 in my home for almost 4 years & I didn't observe any burn in back then. But burn in was an issue Samsung was aware of that's why they were hesitant of implementing on-screen navigation buttons. AMOLEDs are much better now, especially ones from Samsung. LG is another big supplier.
Zangetsu
Zangetsu #44
Mar 8, 2019 at 4:42 PM
Good review
SaiyanGoku
Mar 22, 2019 at 11:14 PM
I'd give credit to Samdung for trying so hard and gotten so far. But in the end, it doesn't even matter. Xiaomi/Redmi bamboozled them again.
mikael_schiffer
Apr 20, 2019 at 12:03 AM
^can you specify some channels that upload sponsored vids? afaik there's one by the name of technical guruji (or some other such nonsense) who posts favourable reviews even for phones that dont deserve it-clearly,he does it for money.

How about others like c4etech,geekyranjit and so on?Are those guys trustworthy?Posting unboxing and review videos of popular handsets has clearly worked out very well for them,as is evidenced by their luxurious and opulent liftestyles(a couple of months back that ranjit fellow was flaunting a 4k samsung tv which he proudly proclaimed that he had purchased for 4 lakhs or thereabouts!).I think their lavish income results from the huge sponsorships they receive from phone manufacturers,as well as the revenue generated from youtube.
TECHNICAL GURUJI is not a reviewer. He never claims to be one. All he does is hands-on. He never says dont buy this or dont buy that.
R
Apr 20, 2019 at 12:27 PM
The New M30 actually looks decent specs and pricing wise on my router login panel. Actually considering it as my next phone. Let's see what happens.