Sharing info regarding reliability of laptop

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One thing i have noticed since past that brands like sony vaio, dell are more concerned about reliability of laptop than just putting in the best possible GPU in the laptop.

Eg: In previous sony vaio EB series it had underclocked hd5650 GPU unlike other brands, even in current CB series, it has gone for lower clocked HD6630m instead of HD6650m.

I have noticed that higher the clock speed-> more the heat produced-> reduces the life of laptop.

On the contrary, i have noticed brand like HP, is more concerned about attracting the customers than reliability of laptop.
It puts in the best possible GPU (high clocked) at low price to attract customers.
Eg: dv6-6121 with 6770m( high clock speed) . It doesnt have cooling system which can cool down this beast.
Hence more heat produced-> less reliability.

I have posted this information because I have seen people recommending HP laptop all the way than other brands just falling for its specs without thinking about reliability.

Even people who buy laptop for gaming should look at specs as well as reliability.

I have posted this here as i feel its an advice regarding buying a laptop.

Note: This is just my opinion. I am not supporting any brand nor opposing any brand.
Heat is one of the causes that reduces the life of laptop.

Yeah, but lower performance -> Lower heat, but lower lifespan too. This laptop will be slower and be outdated sooner and become a piece a **** earlier.
Secondly if you can afford a 50k laptop, you should not skimp on a decent cooler which will cost 2-3% of the total price of the laptop.

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Just having slower clocked gfx card doesnt make laptop outdated, remember it can be overclocked easily.

Laptop is not ONLY a gaming machine, its used for other purposes as well.

adnan87 said:
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Just having slower clocked gfx card doesnt make laptop outdated, remember it can be overclocked easily.

Laptop is not ONLY a gaming machine, its used for other purposes as well.

And people mostly recommend the HP for gaming. Sony Viao with the 1080p screen is what I would recommend for movies/internet etc.

And remember the faster GFX can be overclocked easily too.

Also,

adnan87 said:
I have noticed that higher the clock speed-> more the heat produced-> reduces the life of laptop.

wouldn't OCing the GPU reduce the life of the laptop

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If its only for gaming and nothing else, xbox or PS3 is the way to go.

I don't recommend overclocking bro, i said its posible :wink:

overclocking a faster gfx card will make laptop an oven :))

adnan87 said:
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If its only for gaming and nothing else, xbox or PS3 is the way to go.
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agreed.
But usually its not gaming and nothng else. its MOSTLY gaming and something else.. so..

adnan87 said:
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If its only for gaming and nothing else, xbox or PS3 is the way to go.

I don't recommend overclocking bro, i said its posible

overclocking a faster gfx card will make laptop an oven

Ugh what? Xbox and PS3 gaming is no where near PC gaming. And you don't have to game all the time on a gaming laptop.

And have you seen the HP thread? Many owners are running the 6770M OCed. And look at US based forums, people are running 6970M with OC.

dude we know that and thats why pc gaming is suffering, support it ,pc helps u with all kinds of stuffs...most of us go for vfm...except like some1 who has a plasma screens and AC in all rooms ,with 2-3 sedans (i mean really rich kind,add examples if u want..

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support PC gaming or wont live long..!!! PEACE..

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@ ishu gupta

Don't compare indian climatic conditions with US, weather is cool over there so there wont be any prob in o'clocking the gfx card,its not the same here especially in summer.

Am not against PC gaming, i do game a lot on PC :wink:

Nothing is wrong with pc gaming,but gaming in laptop is not very wise!

adnan87 said:
@ ishu gupta

Don't compare indian climatic conditions with US, weather is cool over there so there wont be any prob in o'clocking the gfx card,its not the same here especially in summer.

Am not against PC gaming, i do game a lot on PC

HP thread. In this forum. In INDIA. People with OCed 6770M.

red dragon said:
Nothing is wrong with pc gaming,but gaming in laptop is not very wise!

Razer Blade say Hi.

Reliability maybe, but that doesn't hide the fact that Sony has inferior hardware in comparison to HP. (viewpoint is speed here)

But yes if the laptop heats up too much it is not going to be very usable but I don't think HP laptops heat up a lot during the initial year, after which it requires cleaning up.

^^How many hp laptops have you used son?

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Ishu Gupta said:
HP thread. In this forum. In INDIA. People with OCed 6770M.

Great. go ahead. Using laptop as oven :))

Sarath said:
Reliability maybe, but that doesn't hide the fact that Sony has inferior hardware in comparison to HP. (viewpoint is speed here)

What's the use of having the best hardware which wont fetch you in the log run.

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Great. go ahead. Using laptop as oven

That's exaggeration. Shall we take your word or the ones who own it?

To add the owners of that system are also concerned about heating problem, but then again the system doesnt heat up the way you are presenting it.

and why dont you just a get 2 k worth cooler..i'm sure the ones who are getting 54 k system can manage 2 k cooler too

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What's the use of having the best hardware which wont fetch you in the log run.

again exaggeration, have you gone through the reviews? If not why dont you spend some time going through reviews?

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Check the below thread, its regarding dv6 series with 4650gfx card. Just see what they say about laptop in the beginning when its brand new, then check the end part, after 2 years.

Forums.Chip.in • View topic - All info on HP dv6-1110ax / dv6 1211ax/ dv6 2005 ax

adnan87 said:
Great. go ahead. Using laptop as oven

Make me an omelete with a DV6 and then we can talk further.

red dragon said:
^^How many hp laptops have you used son?

I work for HP ;-)

not really :))

Ishu Gupta said:
Make me an omelete with a DV6 and then we can talk further.

Lol...you are pushing it.

adnan87 said:
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Check the below thread, its regarding dv6 series with 4650gfx card. Just see what they say about laptop in the beginning when its brand new, then check the end part, after 2 years.

Forums.Chip.in • View topic - All info on HP dv6-1110ax / dv6 1211ax/ dv6 2005 ax

After reading that thread in that stupid forum I bought the dv6 in 2009,I have never made such a mistake with gadgets.
It is seriously a 3rd class laptop(that forum is even worse,even the mods are retards)

aryan24 said:
That's exaggeration. Shall we take your word or the ones who own it?

To add the owners of that system are also concerned about heating problem, but then again the system doesnt heat up the way you are presenting it.

and why dont you just a get 2 k worth cooler..i'm sure the ones who are getting 54 k system can manage 2 k cooler too

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What's the use of having the best hardware which wont fetch you in the log run.

again exaggeration, have you gone through the reviews? If not why dont you spend some time going through reviews?

The owners here own them for 3/4 months,the magic begins after one year.
What reviews are you talking about?cnet Asia?Find something from little better sites.
Laptop cooler is not really a viable solution for many people,the laptop itself is too bulky heavy to the point of being fugly.
Why not ask people who have used dv6 for a year or more?

^DV6 for 2 years (mine)
Friend got another DV6 a little above an year back
Two more friends got a DV6 6 months back
The latest addition in july is another DV6.

So its not some one off story I am talking about. When I say friend, they are also rommies since we all used to share an apartment. So it was pretty much always (mis)used by all.

Dv6 has served us well. My lappy does get hot after an hour of usage.

All of your friends bought dv6,did not they?All of them are perfectly fine,aint they?
Then why give 2/3 examples?You could have given 30 such and made your point much stronger.

red dragon said:
All of your friends bought dv6,did not they?All of them are perfectly fine,aint they?
Then why give 2/3 examples?You could have given 30 such and made your point much stronger.

If someone calls HP good, he is lying / is ignorant / is too young,
if someone calls HP bad, he is a smart costumer.

I like it

Fact is you are paying 10k extra for a slower machine if you go for Dell. Ofcourse that 10k will go somewhere (Better customer care people).

So do I!

red dragon said:
The owners here own them for 3/4 months,the magic begins after one year.
What reviews are you talking about?cnet Asia?Find something from little better sites.
Laptop cooler is not really a viable solution for many people,the laptop itself is too bulky heavy to the point of being fugly.
Why not ask people who have used dv6 for a year or more?

Why do you think someone wont spend a little money and apply thermal paste again after 18 months oh intense use. It is not HP's fault is users can't take care of their laptops

Replace TIM in a laptop? :shock:

People should just use coolsense. Its pretty good from what I've heard.

red dragon said:
All of your friends bought dv6,did not they?All of them are perfectly fine,aint they?
Then why give 2/3 examples?You could have given 30 such and made your point much stronger.

What is this? :wink:

Ishu Gupta said:
If someone calls HP good, he is lying / is ignorant / is too young,
if someone calls HP bad, he is a smart costumer.

I like it

Fact is you are paying 10k extra for a slower machine if you go for Dell. Ofcourse that 10k will go somewhere (Better customer care people).

Haha. After this I think my reply isn't needed. :))

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The owners here own them for 3/4 months,the magic begins after one year.
What reviews are you talking about?cnet Asia?Find something from little better sites.

lol no lappy is lasting forever, not even your mac pros..and if you really want your system to last then better start taking care of it.

Coming to reviews, I asked you hp bashing guys to google a bit, why shall I when I'm already convinced that they make decent stuff, the thread is about convincing that hp is not a good brand.

so right there ball is in your court.

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Why not ask people who have used dv6 for a year or more?

Here right in this thread you can find there are people who are using it for more than a year without any problems.

spectacles? eh

Dont get so much worked up buddy!That too for those dv series laptops.
HP will be very happy to know that even they can have such a rabid fan base.