@mediator
Definition of religion and religious leaders? What I've been explaning all along,
then? I also asked you a few questions about morality, guilt and remorse. May
I request that you read my posts again carefully for my definition of religions
and Gods?
Religion is nothing to me. It was an ancient tool to gather people together who
shared some common beliefs. Most of the times, religions were used for political
or military benefits. Yes, religions are large organizations of people with blind faith.
I think it's you who is actually consufed about religions, philosophy, morality,
conscience, faith and guilt. Blind faith comes from an excessive feeling of guilt.
As some Western philosophers argue about the importance of 'Father' in
Christianity, they say it arises from the guilt of killing one's own father. It has
probably to do something with Frued's Oedipus complex.
It cannot be denied that humans are the most intelligent species on Earth.
We conquered the whole World in our early stages of development, defeating
and taming other rival species. This gave birth to a great ego in mankind. That
the man was the future, the chosen one to rule the World. But, ego also gives
birth to guilt. And this is when Gods steped into our lives. We devised them to
satisfy both our ego of supremacy and the resultant guilt.
Earlier gods were more natural, like the Sun god. But slowly, the ego took over
the guilt and gods became more humanlike. You'll notice that gods in all cultures
ride almost all species, excluding humans. Mankind is hailed as the direct descendent
of the supreme gods. The male ego is so strong is Hindus that we started
worshipping our own penis.
Humans have this strong desire to become gods. Egyptian kings claimed they
were direct descendents of the Sun and various other gods. Our own mythology
is full of such stories where gods impregnated women. I can also relate this
with the Amecian perversion of Alien abduction. Humans have very strange
and perverted fantacies. God is the result of such a fantasy where supreme
power and lust unite.
You say that "a person not having religion is like an animal whose sole task is
to eat others and spread violence". I suggest you spend a little more time
understanding the nature, rather than readymade religions. Not all animals are
carnivores, and even those who are ...they do not spread violence. It's the
humans who do, with all their spirituality and religions.
How many animals have you killed or eaten so far? And how many have you
scarficed to please your gods(ego)? Get real. Get to know nature more.
There was never another species as violent and arrogant as us humans.
Have you ever heard of a World War in a jungle, where a species nuked its own?
Read more about human psychology. You'll have your answers for all of your
questions. You'll then know what ego is, and how it drives the humans to
become the most dangerous species on Earth. You'll then understand what
guilt is about.
Do you know how many lives have been taken in the name of gods worldwide?
Have you ever been to a place where innocent animals are scarificed at mass
level to please a psycho god by psycho believers? They do it for their own
entertainment and to satisfy the need for violence. And they do it in the name
of their god. This is your spirituality?
If Vedas were so scientific, why didn't we develop the modern technology a
thousand years ago? Please, rest this case of FUD that is spreading like a
wildfire. Westerners are better scientific people in general. They even stood
against their religion in favor of science and quest. And 'Swami' Ramdev is not
reviving any Veda. He is reviving his future and fortune. He knew how to attract
media and attention and did so successfully. He's probably a billioniare by now.
Religions preach compassion, non-violence, ethics and morality? Wrong!
If it were the way you think it is, there would be no killings, no nuclear bombs,
no animals sacrifices, no murders, no stealings and no hatred.
Wake up! You're living in a dreamworld of Utopia. It doesn't exist.
@Virus
Islam doesn't prohibit violence, terror, revenge or jihad. This type of statements
are being issued by some Muslims to take away the focus on real problems of
Islam. They're spreading FUD, and unfortunately the international media plays
along. The very foundation of Islam is hatred and violence.
led_shankar said:
Religion - is a codified set of rules to follow, that have been pre-decided. It does not leave room for personal insight and development. It aims to homogenise all its folowers. Ultimately, it seeks to prevent spirituality.
Exactly!
mediator's problem is that he cannot tell spirituality from religion. They're
very different things, and as I said before, a real spiritual Sage in the search
for oneself and knowledge is not necessarily religious.
Religions are institutions. And institutionalization is about suppression of individuality.
But I'd like to inform you that these 'old traditions' have not been challenged only by 21st century d00ds. They had been challenged strongly enough by d00ds of the ancient eras too; read about the Carvaks.
