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Need suggestion for a friend

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run?
Ans: Internet surfing, watching movie clips (full HD n untouched .ts too), occasionally online social games like farmville

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: INR25000 (lesser the better)

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: No

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: WinXP n Win 7 professional / ultimate

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: planning to buy a 2TB hdd. will use one 160GB samsung sata drive also

6. Do you want to buy a monitor?
Ans: already have a 20inch Dell in2020M

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: 2 160GB samsung HDDs, 1 ASUS DVD writer

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: in a month

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: i have built one and will do it for him

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Lucknow and yes to both

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: this will be used for quite some time like 1-3 years. person is a simple user, no overclocking will be done. he will use a wireless router / wired modem with a broadband connection. simple keyboard n mouse only. also simple cabinet only with a cooling fan.

later, he plans to get a 5.1 speaker set. he has seen a iball wooden set and it interested in that. any ideas about that?

Intel G2020 - rs 3800

Gigabyte B75 -D3H - rs 4200

Corsair Valueselect 1333mhz 4gb ram - rs 2400

Antec vp 450p psu - rs 2800

Nzxt Gamma cabinet - rs 2300

WD Red Sata 2TB - rs 7300

Logitech Mk200 keyboard & mouse - rs 700

Total - rs 23,500

For that configuration and if you do not plan to add a GPU above an HD7750 get the Antec BP300P SMPS/PSU for Rs 1850 and a normal large generic cabinet or for a bit of a quality get the Antec NSK4400 - Rs 1300 ,since your PC wont generate much or low heat theres no need to get an expensive cabinet in this case or configuration. But do not get cheap local PSU as it will damage your comuter sooner or later.

Intel G2020 Rs 3725
Gigabyte GA-H61M-DS2/ASUS P8H61-M LX R2.0 - Rs 3100/2900
Corsair Value Select 1333 Mhz 4GB - Rs 2600
Toshiba/Seagate 2TB - Rs 6000
Antec NSK4400 - Rs 1300
Antec BP300P SMPS for Rs 1850
Keyboard and Mouse Logitech Generic - Rs 550

Total - Rs 18,825

Thats all you need basically.With the money saved get a good 5.1 from Edifier/Creative,its much better than an iball Tarang or the wood one you are reffering to.

ASHISH65 said:
Nzxt Gamma cabinet - rs 2300

He can go a for a simple cabinet, and can spend that money on VFM 5.1 speaker.

isn't i3 cpu better than g2020?

what about h67 mbs?

if not needed, then a graphics card will not be taken.

vidhubhushan said:
isn't i3 cpu better than g2020?

what about h67 mbs?

if not needed, then a graphics card will not be taken.

I3 is faster than g2020 in games and multitasking work.In Normal usage like browsing,playing videos.. they both perform similar.

You can go with either H61 or b75 mobo. Extra features of B75 is hdmi port and Usb3.

Intel Hd 2000 inbuilt gpu is more than enough to play Hd 720p and 1080p content.

External gpu is not needed

i3 3220 (7300)
Gigabyte B75M DH3 (4200)
Kingston HyperX Blu 1600 MHz 4 GB (2600)
WD Blue 1 TB (4200)
Antec VP450P (2600)
NZXT Gamma (2300)
2 120 mm case fans (700)

total: ~24k

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Processor	Intel Pentium G2020
Motherboard	GA-B75M-D3H
RAM	G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3 4 GB (F3-12800CL9S-4GBXL)
HDD	Western Digital 1TB (WD10EZEX)
SMPS	Seasonic S12 II 430W

KB + Mouse	Logitec combo wireless
Standard Cabinet

The Incinerator said:
For that configuration and if you do not plan to add a GPU above an HD7750 get the Antec BP300P SMPS/PSU for Rs 1850 and a normal large generic cabinet or for a bit of a quality get the Antec NSK4400 - Rs 1300

But Antec NSK4400 has a SMPS inside (*www.antecindia.co.in/product.php?id=NzA0MzA1) Correct me ....

URPradhan said:
Processor Intel Pentium G2020
Motherboard GA-B75M-D3H
RAM G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3 4 GB (F3-12800CL9S-4GBXL)
HDD Western Digital 1TB (WD10EZEX)
SMPS Seasonic S12 II 430W
KB + Mouse Logitec combo wireless
Standard Cabinet

But Antec NSK4400 has a SMPS inside (Antec - NSK 4400) Correct me ....

Why are you going with G2020 when you can accommodate i3 3220 in your budget?

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harshilsharma63 said:
Why are you going with G2020 when you can accommodate i3 3220 in your budget?

Coz there is no SUBSTANTIAL gain for the diff price we will pay for i3. For 7-8K I'll suggest AMD Fx 6300 6 core 14 MB cache processor not the crap i3/i5. And OP has asked 'would be better if less than 25k'

URPradhan said:
the crap i3/i5.

They are not crap.

@harshil op need 2tb hd,not 1tb

multitasking is done a lot by him so i3 is preferred.

is this b75 board better than h67? hdmi + usb3 is good as he may opt for a better monitor as this one is some 2 years old. suggestions for monitor also please (not included in the budget).

vidhubhushan said:
multitasking is done a lot by him so i3 is preferred.

is this b75 board better than h67? hdmi + usb3 is good as he may opt for a better monitor as this one is some 2 years old. suggestions for monitor also please (not included in the budget).

Yes, the b75 board is better than h67. B75 chipset is tailor-made for Ivy-Bridge

For Monitor - Dell s2240l ips led @rs 8800

vidhubhushan said:
multitasking is done a lot by him so i3 is preferred.

Can you tell us what type of multitasking he does ? which application he use ?

URPradhan said:
Processor Intel Pentium G2020
Motherboard GA-B75M-D3H
RAM G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3 4 GB (F3-12800CL9S-4GBXL)
HDD Western Digital 1TB (WD10EZEX)
SMPS Seasonic S12 II 430W
KB + Mouse Logitec combo wireless
Standard Cabinet

But Antec NSK4400 has a SMPS inside (Antec - NSK 4400) Correct me ....

At Rs 1300 you wont get SMPS and moreover you dont need a 1600MHZ RAM with a G2020,its waste since it cant utilize the bandwidth!

ASHISH65 said:
For Monitor - Dell s2240l ips led @rs 8800

Can you tell us what type of multitasking he does ? which application he use ?

any suggestions in 23 or 24 inches?

he usually opens winamp, excel, chrome, & firefox. at times word also. his info is spread across excel and word and he uses two browsers for different things with multiple tabs open (specially in chrome multiple tabs of facebook)

The Incinerator said:
At Rs 1300 you wont get SMPS and moreover you dont need a 1600MHZ RAM with a G2020,its waste since it cant utilize the bandwidth!

i too was thinking of 1333mhz one.

harshilsharma63 said:
Yes, the b75 board is better than h67. B75 chipset is tailor-made for Ivy-Bridge

that is good then. ty for the info. ivy bridge is the latest one or is it the second now? i think 4th gen processors are out.

we do not have seasonic in Lucknow

can we go for corsair?

vidhubhushan said:
any suggestions in 23 or 24 inches?

dell s2440l for 13.8k

that is good then. ty for the info. ivy bridge is the latest one or is it the second now? i think 4th gen processors are out.

we do not have seasonic in Lucknow can we go for corsair?

4th gen i3/penitum is not released in india. only i5/i7 is released.
get antec vp450p if you think on adding new components in near future(gpu,hdds etc.) else get antec bp300p.

from the suggestions i have concluded:

Processor : i3 3220 (7300)
Motherboard : Gigabyte B75M DH3 (4200)
RAM : Corsair Value Select 1333 Mhz 4GB - Rs 2600
Cabinet : Antec NSK4400 - Rs 1300
or
NZXT Gamma (2300)
PSU : antec vp450p

Keyboard & Mouse : Simple Logitech or Pleomax (i am using them for the last 1 1/2 years without any problem)

2 120 mm case fans (700)

Monitor : Dell s2240l ips led @rs 8800 or dell s2440l for 13.8k (depends upon the user choice and his budget)

Hope this is ok.

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> 1600MHz ram for future proof, to upgrade ur processor+MB in future. I know th extra bandwidth will not be used by g2020 but its good to have a good ram

> for monitor, I have done some research in 22-24" category with better color accuracy. And I finally zeroed with AOC i2369vm AH-IPS panel 23" monitor around 13k

> If I'll buy a processor worth 7k budget, I'll definitely buy AMD Fx 6300 6 core 14MB cache. It will surpass any i3/i5 with same or higher price.

> B75 chipset is better and if you want HDMI+USB3 then go for it

vidhubhushan said:
any suggestions in 23 or 24 inches?

he usually opens winamp, excel, chrome, & firefox. at times word also. his info is spread across excel and word and he uses two browsers for different things with multiple tabs open (specially in chrome multiple tabs of facebook)

There is no need of i3 for it.g2020 can easily handle it

ASHISH65 said:
There is no need of i3 for it.g2020 can easily handle it

Buddy, will your say that even next year or maybe 2-3 years later, when G2020 will struggle to run the then apps? If OP can get i3 3220 in his budget, then what's the problem?

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harshilsharma63 said:
If OP can get i3 3220 in his budget, then what's the problem?

If OP can spend 7k+ for processor then why not AMD Fx6300 6 core 14 MB cache ?

URPradhan said:
If OP can spend 7k+ for processor then why not AMD Fx6300 6 core 14 MB cache ?

The i3 has an IGP.

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hari1 said:
The i3 has an IGP.

Then we can go for AMD based AGP solutions rather than high priced+low performance Intel CPUs.

URPradhan said:
Then we can go for AMD based AGP solutions rather than high priced+low performance Intel CPUs.

Wut?

harshilsharma63 said:
Buddy, will your say that even next year or maybe 2-3 years later, when G2020 will struggle to run the then apps? If OP can get i3 3220 in his budget, then what's the problem?

i too feel i3 as this pc will be used for at least 2-3 years without any MB / processor upgrade.

URPradhan said:
If OP can spend 7k+ for processor then why not AMD Fx6300 6 core 14 MB cache ?

is it better? i and my friend both are slightly biased towards intel and have not used any amd till date. he may go for it if it is better than i3.

hari1 said:
The i3 has an IGP.

integrated graphics?

URPradhan said:
> 1600MHz ram for future proof, to upgrade ur processor+MB in future. I know th extra bandwidth will not be used by g2020 but its good to have a good ram

> for monitor, I have done some research in 22-24" category with better color accuracy. And I finally zeroed with AOC i2369vm AH-IPS panel 23" monitor around 13k

> If I'll buy a processor worth 7k budget, I'll definitely buy AMD Fx 6300 6 core 14MB cache. It will surpass any i3/i5 with same or higher price.

not dell s2440l?

when MB / processor is upgraded, he will get higher speed ram then. btw, he is not gonna use any overclocking any time soon (next 2-3 years

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for amd, same question as asked above.

TYVM for the suggestions friends.

vidhubhushan said:
i too feel i3 as this pc will be used for at least 2-3 years without any MB / processor upgrade.

1.is it better? i and my friend both are slightly biased towards intel and have not used any amd till date. he may go for it if it is better than i3.

2.integrated graphics?

not dell s2440l?

when MB / processor is upgraded, he will get higher speed ram then. btw, he is not gonna use any overclocking any time soon (next 2-3 years )

for amd, same question as asked above.

TYVM for the suggestions friends.

1.No.FX-6300 will require a discrete GPU(1-2k extra),also it is a wee bit expensive than the i3.And you will be forced to buy the Asus M5A97 R2.0 EVO(8-9k) for "Overclocking" to make your pc "future-proof"
2. Integrated Graphics Processor

URPradhan said:
Then we can go for AMD based AGP solutions rather than high priced+low performance Intel CPUs.

oh man why you think i3 and i5 have low performance

who said you that ?

CommanderShawnzer said:
1.No.FX-6300 will require a discrete GPU(1-2k extra),also it is a wee bit expensive than the i3.And you will be forced to buy the Asus M5A97 R2.0 EVO(8-9k) for "Overclocking" to make your pc "future-proof"
2. Integrated Graphics Processor

tyvm buddy. no overclocking will be done so that is out. i3 is fixed then.

CommanderShawnzer said:
1.No.FX-6300 will require a discrete GPU(1-2k extra),also it is a wee bit expensive than the i3.And you will be forced to buy the Asus M5A97 R2.0 EVO(8-9k) for "Overclocking" to make your pc "future-proof"

cheaper boards like gigabyte ga-78mlt usb3 has onboard graphics(which i think is faster than intel igp afaik) can be paired with fx 6300.so he may not need to go with a dedicated gpu.

^ I can play ALL games at low to medium settings including GTA 4, GRID 2, ME 1,2,3 and even Crysis 2 ran well except a few explosion scenes. ANd this is on i3 2100, with HD2000. HD3000 is much faster.

harshilsharma63 said:
^ I can play ALL games at low to medium settings including GTA 4, GRID 2, ME 1,2,3 and even Crysis 2 ran well except a few explosion scenes. ANd this is on i3 2100, with HD2000. HD3000 is much faster.

it will be. how ever i dont really know the performance of intel hd3000 over amd ati hd 3000 or viceversa.

Gigabyte ga-78mlt usb3 mobo need bios flash am3+ before putting fx 6300

Stick with intel

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ASHISH65 said:
oh man why you think i3 and i5 have low performance who said you that ?

I did not say Intel i3/i5 processors are of low performance, rather said, for the same price or even lower price one can have much much better AMD solution than Intel. Its everything about money honey. AMD is always value for money which respects your HARD EARNED money well than Intel.

ASHISH65 said:
Gigabyte ga-78mlt usb3 mobo need bios flash am3+ before putting fx 6300

Stick with intel

should be working as that processor is listed as being compatible from the F3 BIOS revision, which was released in October last year. so I would now expect this or a later revision to be included on any boards shipping now.

URPradhan said:
I did not say Intel i3/i5 processors are of low performance, rather said, for the same price or even lower price one can have much much better AMD solution than Intel. Its everything about money honey. AMD is always value for money which respects your HARD EARNED money well than Intel.

not in every price segment. athlon IIx2 will not be able to beat pentium g2020.