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Slim Black Phone with atleast 8Mp camera and Notification LED

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maverick121 Original post #1
Apr 3, 2015 at 6:35 PM
Im currently using samsung grand 2.Im planning to sell this and get myself a slim phone(No Samsung,just because of the poor design/lack of innovation in design)

I was first going for devices under 10000RS but like the lenovo a9000,zenphone 2 but zenphone 2 is large and a9000 does not have a notificaton led.I loved the sony design but while buying grand 2 i chose it because of the price and the UI.
But the bloatware is making the phone slow and i don like the design anymore.

I just went out today and laid my hands on the Z3(black) the phone looks stunning, like the notification led too.But the price is too high.I could manage by selling my grand 2 and putting in the extra.But i keep thinking im i wasting this much money?im just a casual gamer on the phone and 8mp camera is more than enough for me.

So please throw some light
SaiyanGoku
Apr 3, 2015 at 6:39 PM
Lenovo A9000? :confused:

You need to fill *www.digit.in/forum/buying-advice/134349-questionnaire-mobile-phone-purchase-queries.html
You want a bloatware free, slim phone with minimum 8 MP camera under 10k then Yureka is your best option.
M
Apr 3, 2015 at 9:45 PM
[MENTION=145143]SaiyanGoku[/MENTION]
It was lenovo A6000.YU yureka will be hard to hold in 1 hand plus i dont like its looks,does it have a led notification?


1. Budget? Can extend up to get z3,if its really worth it.
2. Display type and size? Maximum 5.2,i find grand 2 to hard to put in my jeans and use with 1 hand.
3. Dual sim? Will be good, but no necessary
4. Preferred choice of brand? No samsung,No HTC
5. What camera option you want (flash, front facing camera)? 8x min -good quality that match grand 2
6. Preferred operating system? (Android, iOS, Windows Phone, etc)? Android
7. Preferred connectivity options (3G, 4G ready)? 4g will be good not necesary
8. Primary use of handset (multimedia, camera, internet, gaming etc)?
Mails,Browsing,Video,Music
9. Any specific mobile phones in consideration? Z3 but will be it a waste of HARD earned money?
SaiyanGoku
Apr 4, 2015 at 12:49 AM
Yes it has a LED Notification light, I haven't tinkered with its colour settings though.
omega44-xt
Apr 4, 2015 at 12:57 AM
OK, I guess you need a good looking lag free smartphone which should perform at par or better than Grand 2........

Check these:
Huawei Honor 6 H60-L04 vs Lenovo Vibe X2 4G vs Samsung Galaxy Alpha vs HTC One M8 Eye: Compare Mobiles: Flipkart.com
M
Apr 4, 2015 at 8:42 AM
OK, I guess you need a good looking lag free smartphone which should perform at par or better than Grand 2........

Check these:
Huawei Honor 6 H60-L04 vs Lenovo Vibe X2 4G vs Samsung Galaxy Alpha vs HTC One M8 Eye: Compare Mobiles: Flipkart.com

Thanks but Honor 6& Lenovo Vibe Costs 18,000 i dont want to spent this much on new brands in the mobile market.
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amit.tiger12 #7
Apr 4, 2015 at 9:14 AM
^ wait for new nexus in October :D
omega44-xt
Apr 4, 2015 at 9:36 AM
Thanks but Honor 6& Lenovo Vibe Costs 18,000 i dont want to spent this much on new brands in the mobile market.

Really ??
There are many people here who even buy phones from brands like Xiaomi & Oneplus, which are new compared to Huawei & Lenovo

Huawei & Lenovo are good....... If you want a phone from big brands then i guess you must get a Galaxy S4...... There are no good 5" offerings from Sony, HTC, Motorola or LG at sub 20k

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^ wait for new nexus in October :D

Considering the price of Nexus 6, I personally have lost faith in Nexus lineup...... Nexus 4 & 5 were priced well, whereas Nexus 6 is over priced, better get a LG G3 and save upto 10k
M
Apr 4, 2015 at 9:48 AM
Really ??
There are many people here who even buy phones from brands like Xiaomi & Oneplus, which are new compared to Huawei & Lenovo

Huawei & Lenovo are good....... If you want a phone from big brands then i guess you must get a Galaxy S4...... There are no good 5" offerings from Sony, HTC, Motorola or LG at sub 20k

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Considering the price of Nexus 6, I personally have lost faith in Nexus lineup...... Nexus 4 & 5 were priced well, whereas Nexus 6 is over priced, better get a LG G3 and save upto 10k

What do you think about Z3 ? is it worth the price? Will there be a price drop sooner? I really love its design.
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amit.tiger12 #10
Apr 4, 2015 at 9:53 AM
^ I think, new nexus will be nexus 5 (2015) version and made by LG (official news), and definitely coming at low price comparing with nexus 6.
and there is another nexus with low cost rumor suggest.
omega44-xt
Apr 4, 2015 at 1:11 PM
^ I think, new nexus will be nexus 5 (2015) version and made by LG (official news), and definitely coming at low price comparing with nexus 6.
and there is another nexus with low cost rumor suggest.

Let's see..... We will know when it launches

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What do you think about Z3 ? is it worth the price? Will there be a price drop sooner? I really love its design.

Z3 is available at around 35k

According to me its a good phone. It is worth its price, but if you don't need such a high end phone, there is no point in buying it......
There are many cheaper phones which will easily fulfill your requirements

There will price drop after a month or so when Z4 launches, till then no price cuts
It recently got the price cut to 35k from 40k
M
Apr 4, 2015 at 1:28 PM
I really love the xperia looks and if i can manage to get 10k for my grand 2 i will go with xperia z3(if i can get it for 35k)I had got grand 2 for 24k ( with reliance extended warranty).so 35-10=25k .. will it be worth it?

And what will be price of z4.. like it be around 50 k right?
ashs1
ashs1 #13
Apr 4, 2015 at 1:35 PM
Yeah.. Expect z4 to be easily >45k( thanks to Sony's ridiculous pricing policy)

Why not considering z1 compact or moto x? Its cheaper, smaller and can handle most apps easily.
ithehappy
ithehappy #14
Apr 4, 2015 at 4:34 PM
If you are asking whether Z3 is worth 35k or not, then yes, it is worth it. I don't suggest it though. And you have ruled out Sammy and HTC already, so that's probably the only flagship left.

Always remember one thing, you will get what you pay for.
$hadow
$hadow #15
Apr 4, 2015 at 5:13 PM
Sony is investing more in z3 promotion so no z4 show up soon is imminent.
anirbandd
anirbandd #16
Apr 4, 2015 at 7:12 PM
Using Asus Zenfone5 since yesterday and I'm smitten by it.

UI is awesome and will get lollipop update in April. That means really soon.

Buttery smooth and great camera. With notification led.
M
Apr 4, 2015 at 10:17 PM
Let's see..... We will know when it launches

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Z3 is available at around 35k

According to me its a good phone. It is worth its price, but if you don't need such a high end phone, there is no point in buying it......
There are many cheaper phones which will easily fulfill your requirements

There will price drop after a month or so when Z4 launches, till then no price cuts
It recently got the price cut to 35k from 40k

Is 35K, a good price to get this,will prices go down any sooner?
How many years will it be future proof?

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Sony is investing more in z3 promotion so no z4 show up soon is imminent.

What is your opinion about z3?
K
Apr 4, 2015 at 10:38 PM
Avoid Z3.
Screen self-cracking issues and overheating.
ithehappy
ithehappy #20
Apr 5, 2015 at 2:35 AM
Is 35K, a good price to get this,will prices go down any sooner?
How many years will it be future proof?

Prices will keep going down, at some point it will decrease at a very slow pace when it reaches a stable point before going out of production, if you wait another month you should be able to get it at 32k or something like that.

No such thing as future proof, and if you want a technical answer then it's already outdated cause SD801 is two iterations behind, as 805 and 810 is already out there (if QC only is taken into account) and 330 is already outdated as 430 is there.

But still you should be able to play those graphically intensive games for at least one and a half year or something.
$hadow
$hadow #21
Apr 5, 2015 at 1:14 PM
Is 35K, a good price to get this,will prices go down any sooner?
How many years will it be future proof?

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What is your opinion about z3?
Personally I love Z3. But I made a vow to never suggest anyone due to the overheating and self cracking issue unless sony fix it. And along that Z4 show up is still not clear but since the major events are almost over I am betting for a IFA launch. And for similar specs one plus one is better any day. Nearly same specs just left the camera res out.
M
Apr 5, 2015 at 1:24 PM
Personally I love Z3. But I made a vow to never suggest anyone due to the overheating and self cracking issue unless sony fix it. And along that Z4 show up is still not clear but since the major events are almost over I am betting for a IFA launch. And for similar specs one plus one is better any day. Nearly same specs just left the camera res out.

What makes you say the overheating leads to cracking? Do you have any evidences other than random rare forum posts?
$hadow
$hadow #23
Apr 5, 2015 at 1:27 PM
What makes you say the overheating leads to cracking? Do you have any evidences other than random rare forum posts?

Personally I love Z3. But I made a vow to never suggest anyone due to the overheating and self cracking issue unless sony fix it. And along that Z4 show up is still not clear but since the major events are almost over I am betting for a IFA launch. And for similar specs one plus one is better any day. Nearly same specs just left the camera res out.

I never said one thing lead to another. I said these are two different issues, And for research purpose just do a simple google search on this topic. This is a big issue with Sony for many generations now.
M
Apr 5, 2015 at 2:13 PM
I never said one thing lead to another. I said these are two different issues, And for research purpose just do a simple google search on this topic. This is a big issue with Sony for many generations now.

I just Used Google.The overheating problem occurs when shooting 4K Videos which is normal for all phones samsung,lg

See this icecube test *www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXsyK5YCid8

See this heat test for Z3 *www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyHMVDKLJbk

LG is the worst in overheating.Who need 4K anyway?
omega44-xt
Apr 5, 2015 at 2:47 PM
Is 35K, a good price to get this,will prices go down any sooner?
How many years will it be future proof?

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What is your opinion about z3?

There might be a price drop after a month

I have a Nexus 4, which has 2.5 years old hardware. It had flagship level CPU+GPU at that time. When I bought it 2 years ago, Snapdragon 600 was at the top. Even now I would say that each and every game runs in my phone smoothly.

I tried playing Asphalt 8 at high graphics setting, it works smoothly with some minor lags sometimes(rarely noticable)

So my guess is for next 2 years, Snapdragon 801 is good enough.........
My N4's S4 Pro is still better than Snapdragon 410, maybe equivalent to S615

I'm myself planning to upgrade to Z3 Compact this summer
M
Apr 5, 2015 at 4:31 PM
There might be a price drop after a month

I have a Nexus 4, which has 2.5 years old hardware. It had flagship level CPU+GPU at that time. When I bought it 2 years ago, Snapdragon 600 was at the top. Even now I would say that each and every game runs in my phone smoothly.

I tried playing Asphalt 8 at high graphics setting, it works smoothly with some minor lags sometimes(rarely noticable)

So my guess is for next 2 years, Snapdragon 801 is good enough.........
My N4's S4 Pro is still better than Snapdragon 410, maybe equivalent to S615

I'm myself planning to upgrade to Z3 Compact this summer

What is your openion about the self cracking and temperature issue posted above?
SaiyanGoku
Apr 5, 2015 at 5:59 PM
Nope SD615 is superior because of 64-bit architecture, ARMv8 instruction set and LPDDR3 800 MHz ram support (compared to 533 MHz LPDDR2 in S4 pro)
omega44-xt
Apr 5, 2015 at 6:43 PM
Nope SD615 is superior because of 64-bit architecture, ARMv8 instruction set and LPDDR3 800 MHz ram support (compared to 533 MHz LPDDR2 in S4 pro)

Good to know...... What about GPU ?? Adreno 405 should be better than 320
SaiyanGoku
Apr 5, 2015 at 6:48 PM
Good to know...... What about GPU ?? Adreno 405 should be better than 320
Adreno 320 supports maximum 1080p resolution while Adreno 405 supports 2560x1600.

Gaming performance is comparable. I played Nova 3 without any lags or stuttering on both 320 and 405.
omega44-xt
Apr 5, 2015 at 6:51 PM
What is your openion about the self cracking and temperature issue posted above?

Same problems were posted in internet for Nexus 4 also

When I play Clash of clans with my data pack, my phone gets really hot..... But still no throttling or cracks due to it

There is definately self cracking issue, but its rare. Those who get it does post it in forums, but there are many others who don't have it
My uncle has Xperia Z, which is 1.5 years old, still no cracks. One of my friend has Z1, his phone is also working fine.

I would say, if you want to buy it, get it. Its a good phone for 35k

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Adreno 320 supports maximum 1080p resolution while Adreno 405 supports 2560x1600.

Gaming performance is comparable. I played Nova 3 without any lags on both 320 and 405.

Good, so Yureka can be considered a better phone than N4 is all respects, except size ........ Planning to get it for my dad & Z3 Compact for myself :p
SaiyanGoku
Apr 5, 2015 at 8:30 PM
Good, so Yureka can be considered a better phone than N4 is all respects, except size ........ Planning to get it for my dad & Z3 Compact for myself :p
Definitely. (I have an Optimus G myself)
$hadow
$hadow #32
Apr 6, 2015 at 10:09 PM
I just Used Google.The overheating problem occurs when shooting 4K Videos which is normal for all phones samsung,lg

See this icecube test *www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXsyK5YCid8

See this heat test for Z3 *www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyHMVDKLJbk

LG is the worst in overheating.Who need 4K anyway?

I speak from a real life experience. My cousin has Z2 got self cracked in front of me.
M
Apr 6, 2015 at 10:29 PM
I speak from a real life experience. My cousin has Z2 got self cracked in front of me.

Well i speak with evidence and not taking into account rare cases.

Well the post above says about some real life experiences.
$hadow
$hadow #34
Apr 6, 2015 at 10:43 PM
Well i speak with evidence and not taking into account rare cases.

Well the post above says about some real life experiences.

Good for you than but I still won't suggest it to anyone.
anirbandd
anirbandd #35
Apr 13, 2015 at 11:38 AM
Top end 4K cameras using is movie shooting have water cooling. Thats to cool down the sensor. Because of very very high rate of data transfer from the sensor for high quality 4K.

4K on phones are just pure gimmick. Where the hell would someone watch that 4K vid? The market penetration for 4K displays is very low.
$hadow
$hadow #36
Apr 13, 2015 at 3:44 PM
Top end 4K cameras using is movie shooting have water cooling. Thats to cool down the sensor. Because of very very high rate of data transfer from the sensor for high quality 4K.

4K on phones are just pure gimmick. Where the hell would someone watch that 4K vid? The market penetration for 4K displays is very low.

But still there is certainly some increase when compared to last year in terms of 4k