Smartphone in the budget of 12-14K

Xperia Mini/Pro & Live with Walkman. Ace & Wildfire S all have really weak processor. so avoid those.

Defy can also be considered if you can find it...

The small screen on SE Live and the X10 Mini Pro is a real put-off. The original Defy has Android v2.2 no?

you can go for Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo V, can check online if want to buy. (I know u don't wanna buy online, but ... )

k_v said:

The small screen on SE Live and the X10 Mini Pro is a real put-off. The original Defy has Android v2.2 no?

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Live with Walkman have a 3.2" screen. And X10s are dead now. i was talking about Xperia Mini but have an even smaller 3" screen. Defy is another option but its out of stock everywhere (most likely discontinued).

Yes Defy has Android 2.2 & can be updated to Android 2.3/4.0 unofficially.

If you want a proper mobile with a balanced specs, you'll have to sell out 17k or more. Neo V, Defy+, Optimus Black.

Sam said:

Live with Walkman have a 3.2" screen. And X10s are dead now. i was talking about Xperia Mini but have an even smaller 3" screen. Defy is another option but its out of stock everywhere (most likely discontinued).

Yes Defy has Android 2.2 & can be updated to Android 2.3/4.0 unofficially.

If you want a proper mobile with a balanced specs, you'll have to sell out 17k or more. Neo V, Defy+, Optimus Black.

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Yeah i meant the Xperia Mini Pro. The inclusion of X10 was a mistake.
I like the SE Live with Walkman. But, apart from the screen size, is choosing the Galaxy Ace(on which i had my heart set tbh) over the SE Live that big a mistake? Doesn't the Ace have a 800 Mhz proccy as compared to a 1 Ghz one on the SE Live?

Also, apart from Android, are there any other options in this price range? I cannot go beyond 14 or 15k . Thanks.

k_v said:

I like the SE Live with Walkman. But, apart from the screen size, is choosing the Galaxy Ace(on which i had my heart set tbh) over the SE Live that big a mistake?

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i'll sum up a few points where Ace scores & where live with walkman pawns ace:

Ace:
bigger screen.
Bluetooth 3.0

Live with walkman:
lot faster processor & equally better graphics.
512Mb ram (Ace has around 300Mb ram or maybe less)
1Gb internal rom & hence more internal space.
Bravia engine (but normal LED backlit display)
[OFFICIAL] Android 4.0 update in April-May
looks better (Ace looks like a iphone clone which everyone agrees)
same resolution as Ace but smaller screen = better pixel density.
720p video recording (Ace can record at 240p & at 15FPS)
front cam

in short i'll say this about Ace: check post

k_v said:

Doesn't the Ace have a 800 Mhz proccy as compared to a 1 Ghz one on the SE Live?

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800Mhz ARM v6 based processor on Ace vs 1Ghz processor on Live with Walkman. so it is not only slower clock-to-clock but the graphics processor is also very weak.

k_v said:

Also, apart from Android, are there any other options in this price range? I cannot go beyond 14 or 15k . Thanks.

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Nokia Lumia 710 cost a bit over 15k and have bigger display. another option is Wave M which is another crap some Samsung camp. both on software as well as hardware side.

Nokia Lumia 710 - adexmart

a very good option

Sam said:

i'll sum up a few points where Ace scores & where live with walkman pawns ace:

Ace:
bigger screen.
Bluetooth 3.0

Live with walkman:
lot faster processor & equally better graphics.
512Mb ram (Ace has around 300Mb ram or maybe less)
1Gb internal rom & hence more internal space.
Bravia engine (but normal LED backlit display)
[OFFICIAL] Android 4.0 update in April-May
looks better (Ace looks like a iphone clone which everyone agrees)
same resolution as Ace but smaller screen = better pixel density.
720p video recording (Ace can record at 240p & at 15FPS)
front cam

in short i'll say this about Ace: check post



800Mhz ARM v6 based processor on Ace vs 1Ghz processor on Live with Walkman. so it is not only slower clock-to-clock but the graphics processor is also very weak.



Nokia Lumia 710 cost a bit over 15k and have bigger display. another option is Wave M which is another crap some Samsung camp. both on software as well as hardware side.

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Okay. So that pretty much rules every other phone out in favour of the SE Live.
Also, i just watched a review of the Neo V and i have to say it's a nice little phone. But i'm not sure about its battery backup. I will be travelling about 4 hours everyday to get to and return from work during which i will be listening to music and doing some net surfing.
Any comment on it's battery life? If it's worth it, i will try and gather 2k more and get the Neo V.

check this review by fellow forum member: Review: Sony Xperia Neo V.

Just did some ground work here in Mumbai. The Neo V is going for 17.5k, while the Live with walkman was for 13.5k. The Lumia 710(which looked really good) is priced at 15.5k.
The Neo V looks out of budget. So, i would like to know which amongst the Lumia 710 and Live with walkman would be a better buy?

thats a tough call. depends actually what you want. wait for some other to replay on this.

Sam said:

thats a tough call. depends actually what you want. wait for some other to replay on this.

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The Lumia 710 doesn't have a memory expansion slot

I guess i'll just go for SE LWW

k_v said:

The Lumia 710 doesn't have a memory expansion slot

I guess i'll just go for SE LWW

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but it does have 8 gigs of memory + gorilla glass + WP + 1.4ghz + 800X480 res + 3.7" screen
i'd say go for it, it suits most of your needs!

Get either lumia 710 or omnia W.
WP7 is a very nice platform.

Sent from Galaxy S2

As your preferred choice is Samsung Galaxy Ace, I would suggest you to go with the same. Its really nice phone and having all the latest technology. Or otherwise you will get many new models of your preferred brands which suits within your budget. You can go for any of them.

Consider lg optimus hub @ 13k. 3.5" gorilla glass

k_v said:

Just did some ground work here in Mumbai. The Neo V is going for 17.5k, while the Live with walkman was for 13.5k. The Lumia 710(which looked really good) is priced at 15.5k.
The Neo V looks out of budget. So, i would like to know which amongst the Lumia 710 and Live with walkman would be a better buy?

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the lumia 710 is available for Rs14,600 online...

I would recommend the lumia 710, i have been using it for over a month now...the only con i see is the battery life... have reviewed it here.

Lumia 710 or Omnia W is a far better phone the galaxy Ace,optimus net or even NeoV.

Android experience in these low-mid range phone is rather poor.
Galaxy Ace is a very bad phone,the screen is really very poor.

Sent from Galaxy S2

lumina 710 recomendation from me..
available within 15 k... wp7 battery is better than android

omnia w better.. but out of budget..

Soumik said:

lumina 710 recomendation from me..
available within 15 k... wp7 battery is better than android

omnia w better.. but out of budget..

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lumia battery aint good...Omnia W is better in that respect, but Lumia's screen is better...

In real life,lumia 710's battery is far better than most Android phones.


Sent from Galaxy S2

rajan1311 said:

Lumia's screen is better

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And how's that?

omnia w is out of OP's budget.. lets not talk abt it...
among the phones in his range.. lumina 710 has a decent screen, and better battery life.. should go for it...

btw.. am not sure lumina's clear black lcd can stand upto omnia w's super amoled.. :O

sorry.. please dont mind my 'lumina'.. i always say that... sounds better to me

Thanks for the replies guys. The Lumia 710 as suggested by many of you'll, surely is a very nice phone . But the lack of expandable memory is the dealbreaker for me as i carry a lot of music + ebooks with me, for which i will be needing a 32gig card. So, i guess the only phone that fits the bill is the Sony Ericsson Live with Walkman.

And i'm not even thinking about getting the Galaxy Ace. That idea has long vanished!

if you are willing to buy online... Neo V is available for 15.05K in ebay. new one.
its got the same chipset as LWW, just a larger screen...

if not... LWW is good enough buy in your budget

NainO said:

And how's that?

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that's just my view...the blacks look deeper..even the text (smaller text) feels slightly better...till I actually compared the two omnia w and lumia I thought the amoled is way way better...not the case..

Btw according to anandtech its got a much brighter display as well..

Soumik said:

if you are willing to buy online... Neo V is available for 15.05K in ebay. new one.
its got the same chipset as LWW, just a larger screen...

if not... LWW is good enough buy in your budget

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I saw that . But aren't those coming with a Seller's warranty and not a manufacturer's one? Don't know how reliable that is tbh..

I love the Neo V man. I'd sell 1 of my pinkies if it were possible to get that phone

well.. tbh i never bought anything from ebay... but these letsbuy and flipkart have good enough waranty... if its defective u send it back to them.. they replace it and send it back immediately... no sure abt ebay.. should be similar... as the guy is a power seller(15.05 one).
If anyone has exp of buying from ebay, they can share.
Go for Neo v if you can... larger screen is a big bonus...

@OP These Neo V phones which offer seller's warranty are imported models and if the Phone is defective you will have to 'send' your phone to them, and then again you would have no idea in what time are you gonna get it back. I know people to which this happened and although the seller did change their phones it took them 1-1.5 months and a dozen angry phone calls to the seller.
So I suggest you go and check your local shops for the phone.

Get the Moto defy+ if u can extend ur budget.

Huawei U8800 IDEOS X5 for Rs 13k
3.8" screen, 512MB RAM, 4GB Inbuilt, 5 MP Autofocus with flash,
Qualcomm MSM7230 CPU 800 MHz Scorpion with GPU Adreno 205
Runs Cyanogenmod, high probability of getting ICS 4.0

k_v said:

1. Budget? Max budget is 14k

2. Display type and size? Minimum 3.5" . Want as big a screen as possible as i'm gonna do a lot of web surfing.

3. Form Factor? bar, slider, flip? Bar

4. Preferred choice of brand? Samsung, LG, Motorola , Nokia , SE

5. Preferred input method (QWERTY, touchscreen, numpad, touch-n-type). Touchscreen

6. What camera option you want? Please specify need for flash, autofocus, front facing camera. Need a decent cam. Front cam not required. LED Flash a must. Autofocus would be a bonus.

7. Preferred operating system? (Android, Symbian, iOS, Windows Phone etc). Preferably Android.

8. Preferred connectivity options (3G, Wifi etc)Please specify clearly. 3G/Wifi

9. Preferred applications (Flash, Swype, GPS, etc)? Flash , GPS

10. Primary use of handset (multimedia, camera, mails, internet, gaming etc)? Camera , Email, Music and Internet. No gaming!

11. Any specific mobile phones in consideration? Galaxy Ace, Wildfire S

12. Any other info that you want to share Need the following things :


- Good battery life. Phone shouldn't die on me after few hours of music + net surfing
- Good camera
- Fast OS
- Good screen size
- Will not be buying online

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buy lumia 710 for 14.5k frm sulekha..

Or else order Motorola defy from flipkart as soon possilbe.. best fone under 15k

Motorola Defy: Price in India, Reviews, Specification: Flipkart.com

funskar said:

buy lumia 710 for 14.5k frm sulekha..

Or else order Motorola defy from flipkart as soon possilbe.. best fone under 15k

Motorola Defy: Price in India, Reviews, Specification: Flipkart.com

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he said that he wont buy online...

@op, Increase budget a bit and buy nokia lumia 710 for around 15k or buy sony neo for 15.5k.. Or You can check out hard to find moto defy, price should be between 13k to 14k...
No good phone with screen>3.5 inch is available within 14k...

pramudit said:

he said that he wont buy online...

@op, Increase budget a bit and buy nokia lumia 710 for around 15k or buy sony neo for 15.5k.. Or You can check out hard to find moto defy, price should be between 13k to 14k...
No good phone with screen>3.5 inch is available within 14k...

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lo..

there wat problem buying online..
order cash on delivery from flipkart..
n u can find hardly defy in market

funskar said:

n u can find hardly defy in market

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thats why i wrote "hard to find moto defy"....

funskar said:

lo..

there wat problem buying online..
order cash on delivery from flipkart..

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maybe he never bought anything online so he's not comfortable with it...

If you don't mind Symbian, you can try the Nokia 603. It has pretty much every feature you require except flash on the camera. Symbian Belle has come a long way and is very usable now.

The other option for you is the Motorola Fire XT, which packs Android 2.3 and also has an LED flash.

But the Nokia 603 has a much better ClearBack display, you can say it's comparable to SCLCD from Samsung.

Why not the Lumia 710. Its available for 14.5k locally.

pramudit said:

thats why i wrote "hard to find moto defy"....



maybe he never bought anything online so he's not comfortable with it...

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I'm a regular online shopper. But i need to have the feel of the phone i'm planning to get before buying . So i would prefer an 'offline' purchase.

I'm very busy with work at the moment. I have decided to get the Live with Walkman as it offers pretty much everything i require . I will have to make-do with the small screen .

Thanks for all the help

right decision in the end go ahead with it

Have you bought the phone yet? How much does it cost you? I'm planning to buy this phone too, so it would be nice if you let us know what's your take on it ..

nokia6600 said:

Have you bought the phone yet? How much does it cost you? I'm planning to buy this phone too, so it would be nice if you let us know what's your take on it ..

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Sorry , I haven't bought it yet . Been facing serious cash issues at the moment
Will get it by late-Feb.

Am also having the same problem...i can extend my budget to buy Samsung Galaxy R but i heard that its discontinue or out of stock in every shop...and in the meantime Motorola Defy plus price decrease has realy affect me so now i am really confused in buying a new phone.....

^^ same thing happens with me in case of Galaxy R.. its out of stock in many shops. i tried Reliance Digital also.. bt its nt available..

@OP
Why not the Defy +???
The prices have decreased significantly! Available for only 14.8K On Sulekha and 2 days back I saw a deal for 14.5K on eBay WITH manufacturer's warranty!