Smartphone needed · DIGIT-ARC

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I need a smartphone for heavy web browsing, downloading. It should have a bright display which does not turn black in Sunlight & has very good call quality. I currently own an iPhone 4. As much I love the design & build quality of the phone & the impressive Apple ecosystem, I hate it for its slow, laggy performance particularly Whatsapp,Facebook, few other apps & especially "Slide to Answer" function stops working sometimes rendering the phone useless! Also, AntennaGate is a different matter.
Storage: I need good internal storage of atleast 16 GB if not 32/64 GB.
Now the most imp part:budget. I'm one of those people who don't believe in shelling massive amounts of ₹ at one go just for a darn phone so I will go no more than ₹20,000, at max ₹25,000 if the phone is too freaking awesome. This after selling off my iPhone 4.
Brand: Manufacturers should be genuine manufacturers like LG/SAMSUNG/ASUS/APPLE/HTC/MOTOROLA/NOKIA.
Display: Atleast 4", HD Resolution with bright in Sunlight.
Models in mind:
1. Moto X( not impressive camera & just 16 Gigs with no sd card support),
2. HTC desire 816G (just 8 gigs of storage), 3. Lumia 1020 (24k at fk, windows phone

, and the fact that it was available for 20k on TBBD makes me nervous)

Nexus 5

Use OTG for more storage

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If I need to install more apps but don't have storage then? 32GB model comes at over ₹30k

how much can my iPhone 4 8GB under warranty sell?

I don't know why z1 and z1c priced the same. Z1c on deals.
Confirmed lollipop support too

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Considering iPhone 4S 32GB version, will run only iOS 7 & not 8.

theterminator said:
Considering iPhone 4S 32GB version, will run only iOS 7 & not 8.

Umm iPhone 4s does support iOS 8
iOS 8 compatible devices: iPhone 4s or later needed | BGR

^ but iOS 8 causes freezing issues in older phones don't know about ios 8.1

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thetechfreak said:
Umm iPhone 4s does support iOS 8
iOS 8 compatible devices: iPhone 4s or later needed | BGR

amjath said:
^ but iOS 8 causes freezing issues in older phones don't know about ios 8.1

yep ios 8 is pathetic on ipad 4 and lower and iphone 5 and lower

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theterminator said:
I need a smartphone for heavy web browsing, downloading. It should have a bright display which does not turn black in Sunlight & has very good call quality. I currently own an iPhone 4. As much I love the design & build quality of the phone & the impressive Apple ecosystem, I hate it for its slow, laggy performance particularly Whatsapp,Facebook, few other apps & especially "Slide to Answer" function stops working sometimes rendering the phone useless! Also, AntennaGate is a different matter.
Storage: I need good internal storage of atleast 16 GB if not 32/64 GB.
Now the most imp part:budget. I'm one of those people who don't believe in shelling massive amounts of ₹ at one go just for a darn phone so I will go no more than ₹20,000, at max ₹25,000 if the phone is too freaking awesome. This after selling off my iPhone 4.
Brand: Manufacturers should be genuine manufacturers like LG/SAMSUNG/ASUS/APPLE/HTC/MOTOROLA/NOKIA.
Display: Atleast 4", HD Resolution with bright in Sunlight.
Models in mind:
1. Moto X( not impressive camera & just 16 Gigs with no sd card support),
2. HTC desire 816G (just 8 gigs of storage), 3. Lumia 1020 (24k at fk, windows phone , and the fact that it was available for 20k on TBBD makes me nervous)

Lumia 1020 is amazing if you like it
otherwise even Lumia 830 is worth checking out-sd card slot,10mp pureview sensor etc

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theterminator said:
Considering iPhone 4S 32GB version, will run only iOS 7 & not 8.

dont get iphone 4s now,its a waste trust me
instead opt for a Lumia or an android

+1 to moto x

Anything.

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kkn13 said:
yep ios 8 is pathetic on ipad 4 and lower and iphone 5 and lower

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Lumia 1020 is amazing if you like it
otherwise even Lumia 830 is worth checking out-sd card slot,10mp pureview sensor etc

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dont get iphone 4s now,its a waste trust me
instead opt for a Lumia or an android

If i'll run ios 7 will it be a waste then also?
iPhone build quality & apple software is very user friendly with ease of use. There are drawbacks also & pretty irritating ones like Slide to Answer doesn't work. Slide to unlock stops responding. These are holding me back to buy iphone.
About Android: I have owned cheap android devices till now & had very frustrating experiences. My timeline is: (starting from left)
Galaxy Y-->>Xperia E dual-->>Galaxy Ace Duos
All were crap devices that didn't perform well in even basic mobile operations like call/text & they made me look blind when taking them out in sunlight rendering them unusable. This made me fed up with android that ₹ 8000-9000 is a joke to these companies.
Ultimately, I guess no phone is perfect for me & all are in a revolutionary stages.
When qHD was under budget then HD came, when HD was under budget then Full HD , when full HD is under budget then Ultra HD came

typing this from my 'cheap' android device spice uno. I have become a fan of the new android. it has come a long way. super smooth and fast like my iPad mini.

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srkmish said:
typing this from my 'cheap' android device spice uno. I have become a fan of the new android. it has come a long way. super smooth and fast like my iPad mini.

will see for how long

what call text problems u had with ur cheap androids?
i still have my galaxy y duos and galaxy s duos lying around and they are pretty good for basic phone tasks.

srkmish said:
typing this from my 'cheap' android device spice uno. I have become a fan of the new android. it has come a long way. super smooth and fast like my iPad mini.

LOL. Then see what happens with 5.0.

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theterminator said:
If i'll run ios 7 will it be a waste then also?
iPhone build quality & apple software is very user friendly with ease of use. There are drawbacks also & pretty irritating ones like Slide to Answer doesn't work. Slide to unlock stops responding. These are holding me back to buy iphone.
About Android: I have owned cheap android devices till now & had very frustrating experiences. My timeline is: (starting from left)
Galaxy Y-->>Xperia E dual-->>Galaxy Ace Duos
All were crap devices that didn't perform well in even basic mobile operations like call/text & they made me look blind when taking them out in sunlight rendering them unusable. This made me fed up with android that ₹ 8000-9000 is a joke to these companies.
Ultimately, I guess no phone is perfect for me & all are in a revolutionary stages.
When qHD was under budget then HD came, when HD was under budget then Full HD , when full HD is under budget then Ultra HD came

Those phones are pathetic what more you can expect.You are comparing them to iphone which cost lot more.

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Minion said:
Those phones are pathetic what more you can expect.You are comparing them to iphone which cost lot more.

But in even iphone when there's an urgent call & your iphone won't accept it just because of a stupid software anomaly makes it unjustifying for its cost

theterminator said:
will see for how long

I rode Karbonn A5 for more than a year until it died in a washing machine accident. And my lenovo a369i is still rocking since a year. It costs 3.7k and do everything an iphone can do and more. Its a myth that cheap androids dont last long.

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srkmish said:
I rode Karbonn A5 for more than a year until it died in a washing machine accident. And my lenovo a369i is still rocking since a year. It costs 3.7k and do everything an iphone can do and more. Its a myth that cheap androids dont last long.

I mentioned my experiences above. I've probably found out that 8GB internal memory is not enough for me forget 4GB that most products of Indian brands offer. Sd card will extend memory but still installing an app will take some space in internal memory even though I've set install to sd card. Hence, I'm in need of atleast 16GB if not 32/64GB.

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Dude you have very less options in that screen size.

On higher end you can go with Xperia Z3 Compact.
Killer phone and VFM if you get around 30 k on Ebay!

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theterminator said:
But in even iphone when there's an urgent call & your iphone won't accept it just because of a stupid software anomaly makes it unjustifying for its cost

Yeah that is why most people here hate iphone.

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theterminator said:
I mentioned my experiences above. I've probably found out that 8GB internal memory is not enough for me forget 4GB that most products of Indian brands offer. Sd card will extend memory but still installing an app will take some space in internal memory even though I've set install to sd card. Hence, I'm in need of atleast 16GB if not 32/64GB.

huawie honour 6 fulfills all your criteria.

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Minion said:
huawie honour 6 fulfills all your criteria.

Will it be bright in sunlight also? I see members not much concerned about this feature.

theterminator said:
Will it be bright in sunlight also? I see members not much concerned about this feature.

Negative
AnandTech | Huawei Honor 6 Review

It's third in max brightness.

If you are a big fan of custom ROM support, then future support is questionable

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Yes,Read full review here
AnandTech | Huawei Honor 6 Review

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amjath said:
Negative
AnandTech | Huawei Honor 6 Review

It's third in max brightness.

If you are a big fan of custom ROM support, then future support is questionable

HTC One E8 and Iphone 5S both cost much more than Huwaie honour 6.

Yes you can get 1 honour 6 + holly in that price :lol:

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amjath said:
Negative
AnandTech | Huawei Honor 6 Review

It's third in max brightness.

If you are a big fan of custom ROM support, then future support is questionable

Nah! I don't think I'll play with custom ROMs as they appear to be complicated for me now. But I wish I don't need to install any custom ROM for a long time like in iOS everything is good. I plan on using my next phone for 2 yrs. Though this phone is priced at 20k but few days ago it was available at ₹5,000 off

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theterminator said:
If i'll run ios 7 will it be a waste then also?
iPhone build quality & apple software is very user friendly with ease of use. There are drawbacks also & pretty irritating ones like Slide to Answer doesn't work. Slide to unlock stops responding. These are holding me back to buy iphone.
About Android: I have owned cheap android devices till now & had very frustrating experiences. My timeline is: (starting from left)
Galaxy Y-->>Xperia E dual-->>Galaxy Ace Duos
All were crap devices that didn't perform well in even basic mobile operations like call/text & they made me look blind when taking them out in sunlight rendering them unusable. This made me fed up with android that ₹ 8000-9000 is a joke to these companies.
Ultimately, I guess no phone is perfect for me & all are in a revolutionary stages.
When qHD was under budget then HD came, when HD was under budget then Full HD , when full HD is under budget then Ultra HD came

ios 7 and 8 ruined older devices totally
i wouldnt suggest getting an iphone 4 or 4s now
i suggest you have a look at the Lumia series or the Nexus series
but one apple fan to another,the Lumia series is equally well built etc and is app design etc is similiar to ios in alot of ways making the transition very user friendly etc
You should have a look at Lumia 730,1020,830 im sure you will love them

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kkn13 said:
1020,830 im sure you will love them

1020 at 20k on TBBD was a steal...i'm mad i missed it coz i purchased AMD HD 7770 & other products all worth 25k+ ...mum wud've kicked me out if i purchased that too :mrgreen:

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Lumias have sunlight readability and clearback display which is excellent to read even in sunlight
avoid huwaei etc ,itll be a drastic step down from an iphone
even if someone would have said nexus or Moto X etc i would still have agreed,but its not worth giving up an iphone for huwaei etc,might as well get a Lumia,Moto X or Nexus,though i think youll prefer the Lumia series more

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theterminator said:
1020 at 20k on TBBD was a steal...i'm mad i missed it coz i purchased AMD HD 7770 & other products all worth 25k+ ...mum wud've kicked me out if i purchased that too

its still there for 27k
*www.flipkart.com/nokia-lumia-1020/p/itmeyfpjufdt9phq?pid=MOBDZKH69HGSZX9N&otracker=from-search&srno=t_1&query=1020&ref=9b7b8338-44d5-4b19-9ff6-250c5bd63e0e

or even 730
*www.flipkart.com/nokia-lumia-730/p/itmeygfe2jwdfj82?pid=MOBEYGFCGYQ7HBUQ&otracker=from-search&srno=t_4&query=730&ref=c7b8c92e-0e5c-4150-a934-8d9723a900ba
(ps-dont go by flipkarts image for the 730 its misleading and badly photoshopped-lacks the windows keys etc,see on google images or something)

even 830 is great if you have the budget -
*www.flipkart.com/nokia-lumia-830/p/itmeyz8gxzmg5zeh?pid=MOBEYZ8FX3YC7RST&otracker=from-search&srno=t_3&query=lumia+830&ref=b0903810-9994-4584-9fe1-4dadb209dad3

Yeah ios 8 and 7 ruined older devices. While Android is caring for phones with weaker specs to run smooth with 4.4, apple is less concerned. Another negative for the overhyped apple and ios.

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android caring for weaker specs,not really,most androids dont even recieve a single OTA or custom ROM
plus theres always bloat issues etc
ios 7 was still faster on the iphone 4 than android 4.4 on the moto g or moto e as well atleast from what ive noticed from my friends phones
apple and ios arent overhyped the way people think it is,they still have a great OS
im using ios 6.1.3 Jailbroken on my ipad 2 and ipad 4s,my ipad 3 is on ios 8
its still one of the best tablets out there,though frankly i dont like iphones and agree iphones are overhyped
why get an iphone for 50k when you can get a decent Windows Phone or even a decent stock android phone + an ipad + a nexus 7 and have a better experience on the whole

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kkn13 said:
im using ios 6.1.3 Jailbroken on my ipad 2 and ipad 4s,my ipad 3 is on ios 8

I want to try iOS 6 on my iPhone 4, will downgrading be worth it?

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theterminator said:
I want to try iOS 6 on my iPhone 4, will downgrading be worth it?

yep for speed etc any day
just keep in mind some of the newer apps require ios 7/ios 8 otherwise ios 6 is very much usable etc and has most apps available still

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checked out Blackberry Z3 at local big bazar. Pathetic phone, disastrous camera, a decent display though being qHD, but not able to go back/home with buttons was a bummer, it only accepts gestures. I opened up camera & wanted to go back but couldn't find out so asked the sales guy ....even he wasn't able to figure out how to go back :mrgreen:

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^^yeah right
just because you cant use gestures etc doesnt make it a pathetic phone :facepalm:

this is why people who havent owned/tried/given BB10 a fair shot shouldnt mislead and generalise
i suggest you try it out properly instead of going by specs on paper and without understanding gestures which frankly are very simple
i never knew sales guys were smart enough to operate stuff properly,most of them dont know anything
if theres any bummer,its the complexity of home,back buttons etc,gestures are the future-Blackberry,Apple and Micorosoft have adopted this approach and are successful

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kkn13 said:
^^yeah right
just because you cant use gestures etc doesnt make it a pathetic phone
this is why people who havent owned/tried/given BB10 a fair shot shouldnt mislead and generalise
i suggest you try it out properly instead of going by specs on paper and without understanding gestures which frankly are very simple
i never knew sales guys were smart enough to operate stuff properly,most of them dont know anything
if theres any bummer,its the complexity of home,back buttons etc,gestures are the future-Blackberry,Apple and Micorosoft have adopted this approach and are successful

There are some things which YOU KNOW you don't like it & for me the ABSENCE of back/Home Hard buttons OR even soft ones IS A BUMMER. Have you even seen its Camera? IT IS PATHETIC! If I went for specs on paper then I wouldn't had purchased iPhone 4 in 2014 in the first place.
You don't put a sales guy who doesn't know how to operate what he's selling :facepalm:

Blackberry,Apple and Micorosoft have adopted this approach and are successful

FYI there's a Home button in Apple iPhones (excluding the back buttons on the softwares), a Back/Home dedicated button on Lumias

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theterminator said:
There are some things which YOU KNOW you don't like it & for me the ABSENCE of back/Home Hard buttons OR even soft ones IS A BUMMER. Have you even seen its Camera? IT IS PATHETIC! If I went for specs on paper then I wouldn't had purchased iPhone 4 in 2014 in the first place.
You don't put a sales guy who doesn't know how to operate what he's selling

FYI there's a Home button in Apple iPhones (excluding the back buttons on the softwares), a Back/Home dedicated button on Lumias

except that ios and windows phone also operate in a defined way using those keys,android is a mess with the keys
whether you like it or not BB10 has hit the nail on the head,maybe people like you need to stop randomly critisising and first give it a proper try
as for your sales person arguement,just give that up,if they were that smart,they would have had better jobs etc,very few actually know what they are selling instead of repeating lines which they are trained to say
i can say android is a bummer too then because of the confusing launchers system etc and those annoying pop ups for default program
once youve used the competition,you know whats lacking and whats not
do you own a BB10 or windows phone etc?or are you just giving your first opinion as a verdict?
i own devices from all 4- BB Z10,ipad ,Lumia 720,820 and Nexus 5 and 7
so i pretty much have a good understanding of all 4 from a consumers perspective
buying an iphone 4 in 2014 is a bad idea,its not properly optimised for ios 7+
if you dont own a BB10,havent used one properly or are just touting stuff off the internet,dont post negative stuff

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What I own is written in my signature. In addition I've also used BB Curve for few months & by god it was a PITA using it. As I said there are somethings which you know you don't like it the moment you have put your hands on it & BB Z3 is surely one of them. How many times will I have to mention you that I don't like NOT having buttons/keys in a phone?
What exactly are you referring to when you say MS, Apple have successfully adopted this approach?

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kkn13 said:
as for your sales person arguement,just give that up,if they were that smart,they would have had better jobs etc,very few actually know what they are selling instead of repeating lines which they are trained to say

By your understanding, sales job is for dumb people. That's very bad of you criticising a job profile.

Shall we start with suggesting phone for you. Wait for a month, oneplus one. Its already listed in amazon so it won't take long.

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theterminator said:
By your understanding, sales job is for dumb people. That's very bad of you criticising a job profile.

not really but its the truth,sales people rarely know what they are selling etc

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kkn13 said:
not really but its the truth,sales people rarely know what they are selling etc

I take exception to the word 'rarely'. I think you should re-consider your approach towards salespersons.

kkn13 said:
not really but its the truth,sales people rarely know what they are selling etc

Negative. When I went to buy xperia m for my friend I in accidental said it gas wireless charging by seeing back panel. Then I said sorry I made mistake it's not wireless charging. The sales person said no sir it has WiFi

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theterminator said:
I take exception to the word 'rarely'. I think you should re-consider your approach towards salespersons.

wow dude whats your problem really
tell me, if you walk into e-zone ,croma etc do the sales people know features etc properly???
i myself shop at a local known store and those guys know wayy better than the e-zone ,croma etc people
i think you should reconsider your approach to stop generalising randomly

Offtopic but i was wondering how does these salesmen always have the high end mobiles as their personal phone. One guy at a tiny shop had S4 a year ago and another guy had lumia 1520. I mean given their meager income , how can they afford such phones.

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Its you who generalized it when I talked about that sales person who didn't know about the gesture thing. May be he wasn't a regular guy of that department or he wasn't responsible for sales of that store.

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srkmish said:
Offtopic but i was wondering how does these salesmen always have the high end mobiles as their personal phone. One guy at a tiny shop had S4 a year ago and another guy had lumia 1520. I mean given their meager income , how can they afford such phones.

They might belong to an affluent family

srkmish said:
Offtopic but i was wondering how does these salesmen always have the high end mobiles as their personal phone. One guy at a tiny shop had S4 a year ago and another guy had lumia 1520. I mean given their meager income , how can they afford such phones.

theterminator said:
They might belong to an affluent family

i too have seen the same multiple times and most of them are from middle / lower middle income group. i feel the companies hand out some handsets as sample.

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srkmish said:
Offtopic but i was wondering how does these salesmen always have the high end mobiles as their personal phone. One guy at a tiny shop had S4 a year ago and another guy had lumia 1520. I mean given their meager income , how can they afford such phones.

they are given these phones to promote them etc by samsung,nokia etc or even the outlet itself

plus some people are often very phone savvy
the staff in my parents shops all have "fancy" phones which they buy from their own pockets

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theterminator said:
Its you who generalized it when I talked about that sales person who didn't know about the gesture thing. May be he wasn't a regular guy of that department or he wasn't responsible for sales of that store.

not really
so stop this now

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kkn13 said:
not really
so stop this now

Yup ,you did, now don't deny, its evident

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theterminator said:
Yup ,you did, now don't deny, its evident

keep dreaming maybe it makes you happy or something

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kkn13 said:
keep dreaming maybe it makes you happy or something

people start hiding faces when they proved wrong especially online forum fanatics :mrgreen:

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Are there any stores providing EMI facility on debit cards? If yes, I'm open to buying iPhone 6/ 6 Plus 64GB/128GB.
Flipkart.com,snapdeal,amazon,themobilestore require credit cards

I would like to know this too, at least as long as my CC is being monitored. Heard ICICI announced debit card facilities, however that only applies for Samsung phones. Is this an RBI rule or something?

No, debit cards cannot be used for emi. Certain offline shops and online shop (onemi.com, no idea on reliabilty)use bajaj finserv which is great as a emi card.

Spoiler alert: my sis (iphone5s) was using her colleagues iPhone 6 and she said it doesn't feel like the premium one except for aluminum body. That's my sis opinion.

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Icici bank does provide emi facility on debit card but you have to have a fixed deposit account with them. I think they need to be certain that in case you default there is a way to recover money.

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onemi.in requires credit card

theterminator said:
onemi.in requires credit card

I'm getting mails from bajaj finserv to buy from onemi.in so posted here.

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Man heard on digit's daily update that oneplus one 64GB will be priced at ₹21,500. That's awesome

theterminator said:
Man heard on digit's daily update that oneplus one 64GB will be priced at ₹21,500. That's awesome

I'm ready already

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theterminator said:
Man heard on digit's daily update that oneplus one 64GB will be priced at ₹21,500. That's awesome

source please?

I would get Nexus 5 and use OTG for more space and ease of for a year or two.

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anaklusmos said:
source please?

Check digit's facebook page, they have a video

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$hadow said:
I would get Nexus 5 and use OTG for more space and ease of for a year or two.

I have a otg cable but its not supported by my devices: nexus 7 (2012) , galaxy ace duos

theterminator said:
I have a otg cable but its not supported by my devices: nexus 7 (2012) , galaxy ace duos

For N7 use Vyom tutorial for getting it working.

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theterminator said:
people start hiding faces when they proved wrong especially online forum fanatics

keep telling yourself that

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$hadow said:
For N7 use Vyom tutorial for getting it working.

it works directly , just download ES File explorer and tap on the last storage thing
even DSLR controller etc work well with my N5 and 1200D

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kkn13 said:
keep telling yourself that

Wht, do you talk to yourself n ppl think ur a mad person

, telling me to do it.

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^^wtf are you talking about,grow up instead of sticking your head in the internet all day
dont :troll:

if you have anything meaningful post it otherwise keep it in your head

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kkn13 said:
^^wtf are you talking about,grow up instead of sticking your head in the internet all day
dont
if you have anything meaningful post it otherwise keep it in your head

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Beauty of trolls is they'll troll & tell the world that the other guy is trolling, ex: how does one "stick" their heads all day on internet & who are you to say that to anyone?

kkn13 said:
keep telling yourself that

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it works directly , just download ES File explorer and tap on the last storage thing
even DSLR controller etc work well with my N5 and 1200D

Tanks for info man. I use ES but never used that feature.

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$hadow said:
Tanks for info man. I use ES but never used that feature.

no problem , happy to help

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theterminator said:
Beauty of trolls is they'll troll & tell the world that the other guy is trolling, ex: how does one "stick" their heads all day on internet & who are you to say that to anyone?

Did you see the EOD in the post?