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Sony announces Xperia L and SP mid range droids

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randomuser111
randomuser111 Original post #1
Mar 18, 2013 at 4:15 PM
Xperia L

*api.sonymobile.com/files/xperia-l-white-1240x840-6d43cc7257c2390078bd03891b7e3bd6.png


4.3", 854 x 480 pixels, 16,777,216 colour display
128.7 x 65 x 9.7 mm
137 g
1 GHz Qualcomm MSM8230 dual-core S4 Krait
Adreno 305 GPU
8 megapixel fast-capture camera with Exmor RS, HDR Mode
4x digital zoom with auto focus
RAM: 1GB
Internal storage: 8GB
Expandable upto 32GB
BT 4.0, NFC
1750 mAh battery

Product Page

*api.sonymobile.com/files/xperia-l-gallery-04-1240x840-a79f43db3bea9e27a80725db265c5c1b.png


Xperia SP

*api.sonymobile.com/files/xperia-sp-hero-white-1240x840-1075687541d6e4fc113f85981463fccc.png



4.6", 1280 x 720 pixels, 16,777,216 colour display with Corning Gorilla Glass
MSM8960 S4 PRO Dual Core 1.7ghz, Adreno 320 GPU
1GB RAM
8 GB Internal, expandable upto 32GB
8 MP Exmor RS Camera with HDR Mode
Aluminum Frame
BT 4.0, NFC
Glove Mode
LTE 4G
2370mAh battery
130.6 x 67.1 x 9.98 mm
155 grams

Product Page

*www-static.se-mc.com/blogs.dir/0/files/2013/02/xperia-sp-open-select-1880x1000-52f76eb803cc17c7282aa4382f3ddc20.jpg


India launch next month.

SP will be around 24k, L will be around 17k
quagmire
Mar 18, 2013 at 4:25 PM
@randomuser111: Can u comment which is better Xperia L VS LG F5 and Xperia SP VS LG F7 ?
randomuser111
Mar 18, 2013 at 4:33 PM
^

I don't see any info on the chipset those two phones use, so I can't comment yet. F5 screen definitely is superior to L. And F7 has an extra 1GB RAM over SP.
quagmire
Mar 18, 2013 at 4:54 PM
^ If Wikipedia is to be believed LG Optimus F5 has MSM8930 (1.2 GHz Dual-core Krait, Adreno 305) and LG Optimus F7 has MSM8960 (1.7 GHz Dual-core Krait, Adreno 225)...

The camera sensor on both (XSP and XL) are the same ones used in other Xperia models right?
randomuser111
Mar 18, 2013 at 4:58 PM
^

No. Both L and SP use an all new 8 megapixel Exmor RS camera :)
N
Mar 18, 2013 at 5:26 PM
Now let's hope Xperia SP is under 30K. That illumination is sick!
quagmire
Mar 18, 2013 at 5:28 PM
Galaxy Express has similar internals as Xperia L and has managed some respectable benchmarks.. I think Xperia L is total VFM at 17k..

IMO XSP is slightly overpriced at 24k.. Why not discontinue Xperia SL and market SP at 21-22k where it would be unbeatable in all respects..?
(I am saying this b'coz people willing to spend 24k can add a couple of thousand more and get S3 or LG 4X HD at 25k..)
RCuber
RCuber #8
Mar 18, 2013 at 5:37 PM
This is design.. !!!!
randomuser111
Mar 18, 2013 at 5:44 PM
@quagmire

SP is not gonna be priced at 20-21k because there is another phone coming to fill that space with S4 dual krait 1.5ghz and Adreno 225 GPU. :)

Also don't forget Xperia SP is powered by Adreno 320 GPU. So performance wise it blows the S3/Note2/LG F7 out of the water ;)

SL is already out of production
Sudh4r
Sudh4r #10
Mar 18, 2013 at 5:48 PM
@randomuser111 wat will be the expected price of XPERIA L?
Sudh4r
Sudh4r #12
Mar 18, 2013 at 6:06 PM
If it's in that range I might purchase it. Untill now I had LUMIA 520/620 in mind. Still i'm confused.
quagmire
quagmire #13
Mar 18, 2013 at 6:23 PM
Approx benchmarks of Xperia L
AnTuTu - 10688
Quadrant Standard – 5136
NenaMark2 - 61.1 frames per second
randomuser111
Mar 18, 2013 at 6:29 PM
^

Where did you find that :eek:
Sudh4r
Sudh4r #15
Mar 18, 2013 at 6:30 PM
^ Could you provide the Source quagmire .
quagmire
quagmire #16
Mar 18, 2013 at 6:38 PM
I was just quoting Galaxy Express benchmarks from here..
Sorry for not mentioning that..
Since they have almost similar internals.. Am I wrong?

The benchmarks look solid don't they?
Sudh4r
Sudh4r #17
Mar 18, 2013 at 6:45 PM
^ Oh I thought it was for Xperia L, that's OK.

Reviews from GSMARENA and ENGADGET are positive.
theserpent
Mar 18, 2013 at 6:49 PM
BTW any sony sound engine used?
randomuser111
Mar 18, 2013 at 6:55 PM
^

Clear bass, clear stereo, clear phase audio.


And Xperia L should score higher than Galaxy Express in benchmarks -

1. It has lower screen resolution

2. Sony is better than Samsung at Optimization

3. Sony skin is much lighter than Touchwiz
5fusion
5fusion #20
Mar 18, 2013 at 8:53 PM
wooow.. seriously supercool designs :cool: . sony does have amazing design team/engineers. Xperia L is gonna be the "Countach" of mobiles..my what a sleek design ;-) illumination on SP takes the cake .. specs are decent too. guess these are gonna break a good share for sony n may pull them to the top if priced rightly.
sujoyp
sujoyp #21
Mar 18, 2013 at 9:50 PM
Love the new style of sony handsets starting from Xperia Z :) these look soo cool
V
Mar 18, 2013 at 10:06 PM
@quagmire

SP is not gonna be priced at 20-21k because there is another phone coming to fill that space with S4 dual krait 1.5ghz and Adreno 225 GPU. :)

Also don't forget Xperia SP is powered by Adreno 320 GPU. So performance wise it blows the S3/Note2/LG F7 out of the water ;)

SL is already out of production

Can you say the approximate launch date of that 21k phone..?
D
diagus #23
Mar 19, 2013 at 6:51 AM
pricing announced for l and SP
Sony Xperia SP, the mid-range offering from the company, which packs a decent a hardware is priced at €419 (about $545) and the entry-level Xperia L smartphone will carry a price tag of €299 (about $387) in Germany.

Sony Xperia SP=about 30000INR
SONY xperia L=about 21000INR

Sony Xperia SP, Xperia L EU pricing revealed - GSMArena.com news
V
Vignesh B #24
Mar 19, 2013 at 7:48 AM
Wow, these look awesome. Samsung can learn a lot about design from these guys.

BTW any sony sound engine used?
In today's date isn't the Wolfson's audio chip(WM1811A) the better one? It is the same chip that powers the the galaxy s3, note 2 & now s4, also some synths like the Clavinova series. Apple uses Cirrus logic chip, but I find the former one to be more balanced throughout. Sony's home-made chip comes third in "my" list.

I know you asked about the engines, and I went saying about the chipset! :p
S
Mar 19, 2013 at 8:26 AM
Xperia SP ....beautiful ....looks nice...
Xperia l is also good but has a adreano 305 gpu...read some reviews that it not so powerful...less powerful than adreano 225...:(
randomuser111
Mar 19, 2013 at 8:27 AM
^

L is a lower mid range model. I don't see how you can expect Adreno 225 in a 17k phone :)
S
Mar 19, 2013 at 8:32 AM
^

L is a lower mid range model. I don't see how you can expect Adreno 225 in a 17k phone :)

Yeah...but I am pretty much sure it can run well all the games..thanks to dual core and relatively low res...:)
Hope Sony don't overprice it like Sammy..
shreymittal
Mar 19, 2013 at 8:38 AM
Look at that ilumination man....!!!!
randomuser111
Mar 19, 2013 at 11:33 AM
Really amazing how far cpu tech has advanced in 1 year.

17k 'lower mid range' is more powerful than any phone in the 20-26k bracket currently. It annihilates Xperia S/SL and is almost as powerful as HTC One X/ LG Optimus 4X HD:p
N
Mar 19, 2013 at 12:17 PM
SP's 20k?! Darn, it's teh bezt fone! Definitely a great buy.

I hope Sony gets back it's lost fame. They deserve it. Japs deserve it.
furious_gamer
Mar 19, 2013 at 12:35 PM
SP is not 20k. It is around 26k. L is around 18k.
root.king
root.king #32
Mar 19, 2013 at 12:52 PM
amazing specs at that price range,
if they added dust n water resistant then........
Ronnie11
Ronnie11 #33
Mar 19, 2013 at 1:00 PM
I seriously doubt SP will be priced at 20K...i am guessing about 28-30K tbh with that specs..however if they do it price it at 21K...holy crap..am buying one then... :wink:
theserpent
Mar 19, 2013 at 1:09 PM
Xperia L 20k no ways i can get it
randomuser111
Mar 19, 2013 at 1:31 PM
LOL who said SP is 21k :p

SP MRP will be same as Xperia P last year - Rs. 26490. So street price of around 23.5-24k. And if you look at the specs, it handily smokes Galaxy S3/Htc One X+ :wink:


L MRP will be 17990 or 18990 Rs. Street price could be anywhere between 16.5-17.5k. The L too is super powerful. The next more expensive phone to beat it performance wise is Lg Optimus 4X HD/Htc One X. And even those are not much faster. :D

*www.glbenchmark.com/compare.jsp?D1...D3=Sony+LT30p&D4=HTC+One+X+(EndeavorU)&cols=4

See this ^

Xperia L(Adreno 305) vs Xperia S (Adreno 220) vs Xperia T (Adreno 225) vs HTC One X (Tegra 3) GPU performance comparison

L is on par with T and One X and even betters them in many due to the resolution advantage


P.S. Please don't say Lumia 620 cuz it's not an Android phone

WOW!!! Look at these pics. SP is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo gorgeous

*mobile-review.com/articles/2013/image/sony/xperia-sp-l/pic/12.jpg
*mobile-review.com/articles/2013/image/sony/xperia-sp-l/pic/18.jpg
theserpent
Mar 19, 2013 at 2:45 PM
Any Official word on Indian Launch
randomuser111
Mar 19, 2013 at 3:01 PM
^

Nothing except mine :D
theserpent
Mar 19, 2013 at 3:26 PM
Wth is that really the benchmarks Xperia L will give L9 a tough competition
furious_gamer
Mar 19, 2013 at 3:47 PM
Wth is that really the benchmarks Xperia L will give L9 a tough competition

Yes, it seems like that. Then we have one more to choose apart from L9 at that price range.
5fusion
5fusion #42
Mar 19, 2013 at 11:13 PM
i think i'll prefer X:L over L9 if priced around 18k for better specs and design
furious_gamer
Mar 20, 2013 at 9:57 AM
Not only you everybody prefers XL over L9. Awesome design, and decent specs, and no 4GB internal memory crap.
randomuser111
Mar 20, 2013 at 11:21 AM
I've got some good news. L and SP may hit Indian shores within 3 weeks :cool:

SP MRP - 26990
L MRP - 18990

May be higher by 1k or lower by 2k.

Keep in mind these are just MRP. Street price will be 24 for SP and 17 for L
shreymittal
Mar 20, 2013 at 11:50 AM
I've got some good news. L and SP may hit Indian shores within 3 weeks :cool:

SP MRP - 26990
L MRP - 18990

May be higher by 1k or lower by 2k.

Keep in mind these are just MRP. Street price will be 24 for SP and 17 for L

In that price range SP will be an hotseller:D
furious_gamer
Mar 20, 2013 at 12:03 PM
Nope. Still LG 4X HD at 25k is best buy compared to SP, which is just dual core. BUt sure that L is must buy at this price point. I need to sell my Burst, i guess. :D
funskar
funskar #47
Mar 20, 2013 at 12:23 PM
I've got some good news. L and SP may hit Indian shores within 3 weeks :cool:

SP MRP - 26990
L MRP - 18990

May be higher by 1k or lower by 2k.

Keep in mind these are just MRP. Street price will be 24 for SP and 17 for L

Prices will be even higher than above ,, as new excise duty charges will take place from 1st april..
Even phones which arrived before april to india there prices will go high when new lot in april will arrive:cry:
randomuser111
Mar 20, 2013 at 12:30 PM
Nope. Still LG 4X HD at 25k is best buy compared to SP, which is just dual core. BUt sure that L is must buy at this price point. I need to sell my Burst, i guess. :D

Lol. SP butchers optimus 4X HD. Its more than twice as powerful, has a better camera, and better design/ build. Optimus 4X HD is the weakest quad core phone. SP is more powerful than Note 2 as well. No 2012 flagship stands in front of SP. Not even Galaxy S3 or HTC One X+

Prices will be even higher than above ,, as new excise duty charges will take place from 1st april..
Even phones which arrived before april to india there prices will go high when new lot in april will arrive:cry:

The prices I mentioned are as per new duty structure only
shreymittal
Mar 20, 2013 at 12:32 PM
Prices will be even higher than above ,, as new excise duty charges will take place from 1st april..
Even phones which arrived before april to india there prices will go high when new lot in april will arrive:cry:

Hey Bhagwan.....yeh govt toh maar dalegi excise duty bhada ke kabhi custom duty aur fir petrol toh hai hi mahenga...:mad::mad::cry:
5fusion
5fusion #50
Mar 20, 2013 at 12:59 PM
Nope. Still LG 4X HD at 25k is best buy compared to SP, which is just dual core.
i think SP would come close to 4X HD or even outdo it by far margin in terms of performance coz of its better s4 pro soc. a dual core krait is devastating and equates to some quad cores as well in performance. plus it may give a better battery backup as its only two cores sucking up the juice. and sony's cam and audio quality is far better than any of the LGs or Htc out there. so IMO SP would easily take on 4X HD :wink:. i know it would be too much saying before its launch but atleast the specs scream that and only the reviews will tell the things better.

Lol. SP butchers optimus 4X HD. Its more than twice as powerful, has a better camera, and better design/ build. Optimus 4X HD is the weakest quad core phone. SP is more powerful than Note 2 as well. No 2012 flagship stands in front of SP. Not even Galaxy S3 or HTC One X+
Ohhh..SP blows out the 2012 flagships:shock:.. thts freakin great. and then its priced 27k will pull sony to :number1:
both the phone's design is fantastically cool and gorgeous:cool:
Sudh4r
Sudh4r #51
Mar 20, 2013 at 1:09 PM
Nope. Still LG 4X HD at 25k is best buy compared to SP, which is just dual core. BUt sure that L is must buy at this price point. I need to sell my Burst, i guess. :D

Seems like we are back to the selling game :lol: This time I'm not going to sell anything. Yes kindly sell your BURST n gift me L.
randomuser111
Mar 20, 2013 at 1:14 PM
Even Xperia L can match 4X HD performance to be honest. I already posted the benchmark comparison of L against One X earlier. 4X HD is even slower than One X. So in most benchmarks 4X HD and Xperia L will be very close.

Comparing SP and 4X HD is just silly. SP is faster, has larger battery, much better camera, will get 5.0 whereas 4X HD hasn't yet got 4.1, better build. design, features.

I'll put up a table soon comparing Xperia L vs Optimus 4X HD vs Xperia SP vs Galaxy S3 benchmark comparison
Superayush
Mar 20, 2013 at 1:15 PM
"At least the contrast looks good and even though the Xperia L lacks the Bravia engine optimizations, its colors are quite punchy as they are"~gsmarena

So xperia l does not have Bravia engine....hd screen....battery above 2000mah....aluminuium/premium finish...

Though expandable memory and processor along with camera is really good :)

Random will there be any sony phone coming between sp and l (like sola between U and P)
My wish it has hd or minimum qhd screen ...processor equivalent or better than l more than 2000mah battery..some sort of premium finish and feeling (like of sp) and some exciting features(illumination strip looks swag xD )
N
Mar 20, 2013 at 1:23 PM
That's it. Xperia SP, with awesome illuminations, it is.
randomuser111
Mar 20, 2013 at 1:35 PM
"At least the contrast looks good and even though the Xperia L lacks the Bravia engine optimizations, its colors are quite punchy as they are"~gsmarena

So xperia l does not have Bravia engine....hd screen....battery above 2000mah....aluminuium/premium finish...

Though expandable memory and processor along with camera is really good :)

Random will there be any sony phone coming between sp and l (like sola between U and P)
My wish it has hd or minimum qhd screen ...processor equivalent or better than l more than 2000mah battery..some sort of premium finish and feeling (like of sp) and some exciting features(illumination strip looks swag xD )


Yes. C3602. Its positioned between L and SP.


4.3" 720p HD
1.5ghz Dual Krait 1.5ghz
Adreno 225
1 GB RAM
8mp Exmor RS
NFC

Will be around 21k. It might be announced next month or in May
5fusion
5fusion #56
Mar 20, 2013 at 1:39 PM
Even Xperia L can match 4X HD performance to be honest. I already posted the benchmark comparison of L against One X earlier. 4X HD is even slower than One X. So in most benchmarks 4X HD and Xperia L will be very close.

Comparing SP and 4X HD is just silly. SP is faster, has larger battery, much better camera, will get 5.0 whereas 4X HD hasn't yet got 4.1, better build. design, features.

I'll put up a table soon comparing Xperia L vs Optimus 4X HD vs Xperia SP vs Galaxy S3 benchmark comparison
Just too goood then.. these two may be the new segment leaders. sony is sure to put a serious dent on other's sale. RIP samsung, Htc :p:-D:p
randomuser111
Mar 20, 2013 at 1:50 PM
^

Sony is already way ahead of HTC. Sony ships 4 times more android smartphones than HTC.

But Samsung is a different story. Even after L/SP launch Galaxy Grand will sell like hotcakes. :(

There are TOO many Samsung ads, so general public will ignore Sony and get Samsung.
furious_gamer
Mar 20, 2013 at 1:51 PM
^^ Samsung will never go down. Advertisement, fan base, people afraid of expensive spare parts of Sony. :D
randomuser111
Mar 20, 2013 at 1:53 PM
^^ Samsung will never go down. Advertisement, fan base, people afraid of expensive spare parts of Sony. :D

Hahahaha. True That.

But I don't think Samsung will be in the same position forever. In 2-3 years they will fall down for sure. Nobody can be on top forever :)
Darth Vader
Mar 20, 2013 at 2:14 PM
Hahahaha. True That.

But I don't think Samsung will be in the same position forever. In 2-3 years they will fall down for sure. Nobody can be on top forever :)

IN 2-3 yrs, probably Sony & LG takeover the crown and fight the battle eventually with Apple/Nokia :)
randomuser111
Mar 20, 2013 at 2:18 PM
^

Nokia ? LOL. Nokia is almost irrelevant in the smartphone market. And unless they jump to Android I don't see them going anywhere with WP. They only shipped 5 million "proper" smartphones last quarter.
Ronnie11
Ronnie11 #62
Mar 20, 2013 at 2:58 PM
I've got some good news. L and SP may hit Indian shores within 3 weeks :cool:

SP MRP - 26990
L MRP - 18990

May be higher by 1k or lower by 2k.

Keep in mind these are just MRP. Street price will be 24 for SP and 17 for L
freaking hell...i feel ripped off buying Xperia SL for 24k... :|

^

Nokia ? LOL. Nokia is almost irrelevant in the smartphone market. And unless they jump to Android I don't see them going anywhere with WP. They only shipped 5 million "proper" smartphones last quarter.

I have heard the new Nokia lumia series is doing very well...some of the dealers i had spoken to said there is a lot of demand for 820/920...dont write them off just yet...
randomuser111
Mar 20, 2013 at 3:07 PM
Xperia L vs Xperia SP vs Optimus 4X HD vs Galaxy SIII benchmark comparison :)

*i.imgur.com/Wcie6Mf.jpg

As you can see, SP easily beats GS3 and L is very close to Optimus 4X HD


EDIT:

Oops missed out Nenamark2.

L - 59.7
SP - 60
Optimus 4X HD - 52.3
Galaxy SIII - 58.8
5fusion
5fusion #64
Mar 20, 2013 at 3:25 PM
^

Sony is already way ahead of HTC. Sony ships 4 times more android smartphones than HTC.

But Samsung is a different story. Even after L/SP launch Galaxy Grand will sell like hotcakes. :(

There are TOO many Samsung ads, so general public will ignore Sony and get Samsung.
good then theres only samsung to beat. sony had been best in design for past years and were lacking good h/w before but now with these two models, it covers up every aspect be it looks,design or h/w . and design has been a weak spot of samsung for years where sony easily takes over.
So, if sony starts marketing better(which they must do) then i see no reason for people to prefer samsung over sony. many of my friends dont like samsung's design including me too, even though they pack a good h/w.

Xperia L vs Xperia SP vs Optimus 4X HD vs Galaxy SIII benchmark comparison :)
i could not find a single info of benchmarks on net as of now. how come you have so much info?:shock: Are you some sony "Insider" or a reviewer of some reputed mobile site who got his hands on prototype units :p :wink:
shreymittal
Mar 20, 2013 at 3:35 PM
i could not find a single info of benchmarks on net as of now. how come you have so much info?:shock: Are you some sony "Insider" or a reviewer of some reputed mobile site who got his hands on prototype units :p :wink:

He is a PRO LEAKER:D
randomuser111
Mar 20, 2013 at 3:38 PM
LOL. I've take the scores from GSMArena and few other review sites. GLBenchmark and Antutu scores for SP/L are available. Rest I've taken from devices with same chipset as L/SP. :)

Im a Pro leaker yes, but don't have prototype SP/L LOL
quagmire
quagmire #67
Mar 20, 2013 at 5:19 PM
Xperia L vs Xperia SP vs Optimus 4X HD vs Galaxy SIII benchmark comparison :)

*i.imgur.com/Wcie6Mf.jpg

As you can see, SP easily beats GS3 and L is very close to Optimus 4X HD


EDIT:

Oops missed out Nenamark2.
L - 59.7
SP - 60
Optimus 4X HD - 52.3
Galaxy SIII - 58.8

OMG!:shock: XL beats 4X HD in all and XSP beats S3 in almost all with a fair margin.. :goodjob: SONY :-D
randomuser111
Mar 20, 2013 at 5:26 PM
^

I think you should say good job QUALCOMM ;) :D
N
Mar 20, 2013 at 11:40 PM
^

Nokia ? LOL. Nokia is almost irrelevant in the smartphone market. And unless they jump to Android I don't see them going anywhere with WP. They only shipped 5 million "proper" smartphones last quarter.

Err... sorry... I don't agree. I currently rock Lumia 800 and the quickness for most day-to-day work smokes Android in every way, except customization. Only if Microsoft cared for WP as much as Nokia, then WP can make a dent in near future.
pratyush997
Mar 20, 2013 at 11:44 PM
Err... sorry... I don't agree. I currently rock Lumia 800 and the quickness for most day-to-day work smokes Android in every way, except customization. Only if Microsoft cared for WP as much as Nokia, then WP can make a dent in near future.
and how about Data Consumption + NO BT Transfer + No file manager + No WP 8 = No Freedom!
randomuser111
Mar 21, 2013 at 8:24 AM
Err... sorry... I don't agree. I currently rock Lumia 800 and the quickness for most day-to-day work smokes Android in every way, except customization. Only if Microsoft cared for WP as much as Nokia, then WP can make a dent in near future.

I was talking about sales performance only. Nowhere did I comment on the performance of the devices themselves. No matter how good WP8 phones Nokia makes, they won't get anywhere. Only a section of customers like WP8.Mainly the reason why Samsung has now backed out of WP8 phone market.


Xperia L video sample


5fusion
5fusion #72
Mar 21, 2013 at 1:45 PM
sample looks pretty nice with good details. though focus is a bit slow but its fine for a phone cam. those dogs are so cute:p:)
N
Mar 22, 2013 at 10:30 AM
Wow !! it's too beautiful phone, I am also a user of SONY mobile it have very smart functions.
randomuser111
Mar 22, 2013 at 4:16 PM
Xperia SP Quadrant Score ;)

*mobiltelefon.ru/i/other/march13/20/screens_xperia_sp_04.jpg
Z
zakirhs #76
Mar 27, 2013 at 5:38 PM
Any idea when its going to launch in India and what would be the expected price?
abhidev
abhidev #78
Mar 27, 2013 at 6:39 PM
Samsung should definitely learn to design from Sony... :/
funskar
funskar #80
Mar 30, 2013 at 12:21 AM
^

Sony is already way ahead of HTC. Sony ships 4 times more android smartphones than HTC.

But Samsung is a different story. Even after L/SP launch Galaxy Grand will sell like hotcakes. :(

There are TOO many Samsung ads, so general public will ignore Sony and get Samsung.

Yeah ..
As heard Samsung spends more money on Marketing its mobile products than Apple+HP+Dell+Microsoft+Coca-Cola combined together on their products:cry:
A
Mar 31, 2013 at 11:01 PM
Yeah ..
As heard Samsung spends more money on Marketing its mobile products than Apple+HP+Dell+Microsoft+Coca-Cola combined together on their products:cry:
i agree, all other companies are so stupid, they cant figure out that size of marketing budget is main & probably only reason for Samsung to gain such a huge market share. who cares about the product, its a krappy plastic model anyway. you just pour lots n lots of money into marketing and voila you become industry leaders by beating old giants like Nokia and challenging someone like Apple. Its time companies learn from Samsung, the more aggressive marketing, the more number of mocking ads, the better will be your product will sell. its pretty pointless to spend money on R&D & product development.

Xperia L vs Xperia SP vs Optimus 4X HD vs Galaxy SIII benchmark comparison :)

*i.imgur.com/Wcie6Mf.jpg

As you can see, SP easily beats GS3 and L is very close to Optimus 4X HD


EDIT:

Oops missed out Nenamark2.

L - 59.7
SP - 60
Optimus 4X HD - 52.3
Galaxy SIII - 58.8
The Adreno 320 in any chipset will comfortably beat Mali 400 of S3. Any Smartphone powered by Krait Soc is more powerful than Cortex A9 Core of Galaxy S3 or Note 2. HTC One S powered by Krait released almost an year ago had beaten most other smarthones including Galaxy S3 in CPU benchmarks but it didnt have Adreno 320.

The proper answer to Krait is Cortex A15. So the fair battle would be between dual core Cortex A15 in Exynos 5 dual and Snapdragon S4 Krait Models. while the Snapdragon 600/800 Vs Nvidia Tegra 4 & Exynos 5 octa.
RohanM
RohanM #82
Apr 1, 2013 at 7:01 PM
Xperia L vs Xperia SP vs Optimus 4X HD vs Galaxy SIII benchmark comparison :)

*i.imgur.com/Wcie6Mf.jpg

As you can see, SP easily beats GS3 and L is very close to Optimus 4X HD


EDIT:

Oops missed out Nenamark2.

L - 59.7
SP - 60
Optimus 4X HD - 52.3
Galaxy SIII - 58.8

Damn.... I bought gs3 2 months back.. second hand for 23k. ahh now i have to sell it for xsp.. :)
randomuser111
Apr 3, 2013 at 8:12 PM
Xperia L listed on InfiBeam. Coming soon :)

Sony Xperia L Price in India, Buy Sony Xperia L, Reviews & Features, Sony Mobiles India - Infibeam.com
Sudh4r
Sudh4r #84
Apr 4, 2013 at 1:32 PM
Xperia L listed on InfiBeam. Coming soon :)

Sony Xperia L Price in India, Buy Sony Xperia L, Reviews & Features, Sony Mobiles India - Infibeam.com

Any update on the actual price ?
Kiss
Kiss #87
Apr 6, 2013 at 9:26 PM
I don't think we could expect it (Xperia L ) before last week of April...
randomuser111
Apr 10, 2013 at 1:02 PM
Sony Xperia SP - Buy Sony Xperia SP Online at Best Prices in India - Sony: Flipkart.com

SP up on Flipkart
shreymittal
Apr 10, 2013 at 1:31 PM
@random Will it give tough competition to Nexus 4 in India (Imported) what do you think??
randomuser111
Apr 10, 2013 at 2:22 PM
^
You could say that. GPU performance is same as N4 and CPU performance is very slightly behind.
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rajnusker #91
Apr 10, 2013 at 2:27 PM
Had enough trouble with a new Xperia S with bad battery life probs (Fresh OS w/ no apps installed). Replaced the battery and got even worse results. Never gonna make the same mistake.
shreymittal
Apr 10, 2013 at 3:14 PM
^
You could say that. GPU performance is same as N4 and CPU performance is very slightly behind.

OK so warranty equals that toe to toe means better buy is SP than nexus 4
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saifi2649 #93
Apr 10, 2013 at 3:42 PM
Sony Xperia SP launched in India for Rs. 27490
Source :-**www.fonearena.com/blog/66623/sony-xperia-sp-launched-in-india-for-rs-27490.html
shreymittal
Apr 10, 2013 at 3:47 PM
Sony Xperia SP launched in India for Rs. 27490
Source :-**www.fonearena.com/blog/66623/sony-xperia-sp-launched-in-india-for-rs-27490.html

Link not working
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Apr 10, 2013 at 4:01 PM
Link not working


Sony Xperia SP launched in India for Rs. 27490

*www.themobileindian.com/news/11573_Sony-Xperia-phones-to-support-DualShock-3-game-controller
randomuser111
Apr 10, 2013 at 4:02 PM
Yup, as I said it's priced similar to Xperia P last year that had MRP of 27k.

Street price will be 25k and should drop further to 23k in coming weeks. :)
kapilove77
Apr 10, 2013 at 4:55 PM
I was ready to buy Nexus 4 but now this launched. What should i do? :-?
shreymittal
Apr 10, 2013 at 4:58 PM
I was ready to buy Nexus 4 but now this launched. What should i do? :-?

I'm waiting for SP and i will get it next month because i will get warranty both of them have same GPU
randomuser111
Apr 10, 2013 at 5:15 PM
Overall no doubt the Nexus 4 is a better smartphone than Xperia SP. So if you are okay with no warranty then definitely get the Nexus 4.

GPU performance wise, Nexus 4, LG Optimus G, Xperia SP/Z/ZL, HTC Butterfly/One, Samsung Galaxy S4 S600/Octa are all on par. Max 4-5 fps difference between them.
Empirial
Empirial #100
Apr 10, 2013 at 5:39 PM
OMG Sony Xperia SP lacks Magnetometer means No Digital Compass!!! Kyun Sony Kyun :(
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messi94 #101
Apr 10, 2013 at 6:07 PM
What about launch of xperia l ?
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Pancul #103
Apr 10, 2013 at 6:31 PM
27k is costly if we compare it with Samsung galaxy note or Samsung galaxy s3 as both of them are available in similar price range now.
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cooldude94 #104
Apr 10, 2013 at 6:51 PM
Will 1gb of ram be enough to run the device lag free ? s advance with 786mb of ram hangs a lot .
thetechfreak
Apr 10, 2013 at 7:07 PM
Will 1gb of ram be enough to run the device lag free ? s advance with 786mb of ram hangs a lot .

Its properly sufficient. Having too many apps running in the background slows down just about every phone.
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cooldude94 #106
Apr 10, 2013 at 7:27 PM
Awesome Native DUALSHOCK 3 Support Packed in With Xperia SP Phones | TechnoBuffalo:-o
randomuser111
Apr 10, 2013 at 7:29 PM
27k is costly if we compare it with Samsung galaxy note or Samsung galaxy s3 as both of them are available in similar price range now.

SP kicks away Note and S3 into another Galaxy performance wise. :)

The only phones more powerful than SP in the Indian market are LG Optimus G, Sony Xperia Z/ZL, HTC Butterfly.
quagmire
quagmire #108
Apr 10, 2013 at 8:33 PM
SP kicks away Note and S3 into another Galaxy performance wise. :)

The only phones more powerful than SP in the Indian market are LG Optimus G, Sony Xperia Z/ZL, HTC Butterfly.

^HTC One and S4 coming soon :wink:
Nerevarine
Nerevarine #109
Apr 10, 2013 at 10:21 PM
OMG Sony Xperia SP lacks Magnetometer means No Digital Compass!!! Kyun Sony Kyun :(

wtf u serious ?? sony making mistakes like micromax LOL
Kiss
Kiss #110
Apr 10, 2013 at 10:34 PM
SP kicks away Note and S3 into another Galaxy performance wise. :)

The only phones more powerful than SP in the Indian market are LG Optimus G, Sony Xperia Z/ZL, HTC Butterfly.

Hey Random Please explain me the bottom line from this review as I find a bit hard to understand about mobile chipsets... Its the total contrast to what I have been reading that SP Beats SIII

Sony Xperia SP: A Specifications Review
Empirial
Empirial #111
Apr 10, 2013 at 10:45 PM
wtf u serious ?? sony making mistakes like micromax LOL

Check Pg No.8 here : *www-support-downloads.sonymobile.com/c5302/whitepaper_EN_ C5302_C5303_ C5306_1.pdf
Nerevarine
Nerevarine #112
Apr 10, 2013 at 10:50 PM
WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!! what have u done sony .. LOL
randomuser111
Apr 11, 2013 at 9:12 AM
Hey Random Please explain me the bottom line from this review as I find a bit hard to understand about mobile chipsets... Its the total contrast to what I have been reading that SP Beats SIII

Sony Xperia SP: A Specifications Review

What a shameful thing really. A tech site with no knowledge about mobile SoCs. This is why you shouldn't trust most review sites. Absolute BS
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ajaymailed #114
Apr 11, 2013 at 1:39 PM
Hey Random Please explain me the bottom line from this review as I find a bit hard to understand about mobile chipsets... Its the total contrast to what I have been reading that SP Beats SIII

Sony Xperia SP: A Specifications Review
There seems to be some confusion here. Lets compare hardware on four fronts- CPU, GPU, System Performance, Browser.

Raw CPU performance
- Galaxy S3 CPU performance is not a match to any of Krait Chipsets out there. Krait is more advanced design than Cortex A9. It doesn't matter if its Dual or Quad, Krait will beat it. Infact Galaxy S3 US Version is powered by a Krait Chipset- MSM8960.

Benchmarks- Benchmark Pi, Linpack. They measure raw power of CPU.

Just take last years Krait Dual Core phones- HTC One S, Xperia T, Xperia V. All of them beat Galaxy S3.

Samsung I9300 Galaxy S III vs. HTC One X: Alien vs. Predator - GSMArena.com
Sony Xperia V review: Bond’s wetsuit - GSMArena.com

GPU Performance- Xperia SP has Adreno 320, most powerful from Qualcomm. It is definitely better than Mali 400 MP of S3. But still Note 2 & S3 have come really close in of the GL benchmarks.
LG Optimus G v Samsung Galaxy S III: Beast wars - GSMArena.com
Since Nenamark 2 cant measure Adreno 320, GL benchmarks are better candidate. Adreno clearly shows superior performance in 1080p & 720p off screen performance.

System Performance: System performance tests CPU, GPU, Memory, I/O together. Galaxy S3, Note 2 score consitently high on Geekbench 2, An Tu Tu and decent on Quadrant. I dont know about Xperia SP systembenchmarks. Its likely that Xperia SP will roughly match the scores of S3.
LG Optimus G v Samsung Galaxy S III: Beast wars - GSMArena.com
Samsung I9300 Galaxy S III vs. HTC One X: Alien vs. Predator - GSMArena.com


Browser benchmarks: S3 gives some tough competition in Sunspider due to highly optimized javascript engine. Its tough to beat S3 in Sunspider, Browsermark. even Xperia Z got beaten by S3 in Sunspider. Galaxy Note 2 nailed these browser benchmarks, tops the Android charts till date.
Samsung Galaxy S4 vs. Sony Xperia Z: When worlds collide - GSMArena.com

It would be really surprising for me, if Xperia SP wasnt more powerful than Galaxy S3, its only natural that everytime a new Soc comes out, phone markers will quickly adopt it to beat their competitors.

The battle between Tegra 4, Snapdragon 800 & Exynos 5 Octa will be Clash of Titans. Latest news is that S4 Intl version powered by 1.6 Ghz Exynos 5 smokes S4 US version powered by 1.9 Ghz Snapdragon 600 in An Tu Tu benchmark
Kiss
Kiss #115
Apr 11, 2013 at 1:51 PM
Hey.. Thanks for the explanations... :) Now Lets w8 for the SP benchmarks to get the exact verdict between them...

P.S: Personally I'm Waiting for L to be released and be reviewed, more than the benchmarks for SP... :D
randomuser111
Apr 11, 2013 at 2:00 PM
^

Refer to this review for S3 vs SP. Keep in mind Xperia SP is much more powerful than Xperia V so it will score even higher than the V here

Sony Xperia V review: Bond’s wetsuit - GSMArena.com

V beats S3 in all benchmarks including browser benchmarks except Geekbench

V has 1.5ghz S4 whereas SP has 1.7ghz S4 Pro. V GPU is Adreno 225 and SP has Adreno 320 so we can use Z numbers for GPU comparison. Also V benchmarks are on ICS whereas S3 numbers are on JB

*i.imgur.com/SIXF1GQ.jpg
*i.imgur.com/eNzlitB.jpg
*i.imgur.com/rG9Xs9k.jpg
*i.imgur.com/EELuceO.jpg
*i.imgur.com/bbhrEWc.jpg
*i.imgur.com/gP4doNY.jpg
*i.imgur.com/BCPD3c3.jpg
*i.imgur.com/GaVqkxW.jpg


Z browser scores are lower due to Chrome being used, Chrome is crappy at browser performance.
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ajaymailed #117
Apr 11, 2013 at 2:49 PM
Hey.. Thanks for the explanations... :) Now Lets w8 for the SP benchmarks to get the exact verdict between them...

P.S: Personally I'm Waiting for L to be released and be reviewed, more than the benchmarks for SP... :D
other factors will be Battery Life, Camera Performance, Screen Viewing Angles/Sun light legibility. Rest like Software, Screen size etc all are about personal preference.
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vgowtham97 #118
Apr 11, 2013 at 3:32 PM
Benchmarks of SP:​

*i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n483/v_gowtham07/8626688114_ce2cdcc1e1_z.jpg

*i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n483/v_gowtham07/8625580193_0cfcc1593d_z.jpg

Some Camera Samples:​

*i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n483/v_gowtham07/Xperia-SP-Sample_4-640x480.jpg

*i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n483/v_gowtham07/Xperia-SP-Sample_1-640x480.jpg

*i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n483/v_gowtham07/Xperia-SP-Sample_3-640x480.jpg

*farm9.staticflickr.com/8118/8625453525_069ff7e16f_z.jpg​
pratyush997
Apr 11, 2013 at 3:34 PM
Whatsoever! Sony is making awesome smartphone in terms of design !
eduku
eduku #120
Apr 13, 2013 at 3:56 AM
The Nexus 4 has the quad core version of the S4, same as the one in the Xperia Z, so I guess it should definitely be better than the SP...

@ randomuser111

"And we mean the price tag, not the water resistance. Instead of making short work of the likes of the Samsung Galaxy S II Plus, the HTC One S and why not even the LG Optimus 4X HD, its current price sets it on a collision course with the quad-core flagship monsters that wouldn't mind one last fight before retirement, especially one that they're guaranteed to win.
It just doesn't make sense for a phone like the Xperia V to cost about the same (and sometimes even more) than a Samsung Galaxy S III or an HTC One X. Not to mention the Google Nexus 4, which is ridiculously cheap at Google Play"

- GSM Arena...

Conclusion
randomuser111
Apr 13, 2013 at 9:42 AM
The Nexus 4 has the quad core version of the S4, same as the one in the Xperia Z, so I guess it should definitely be better than the SP...

@ randomuser111

"And we mean the price tag, not the water resistance. Instead of making short work of the likes of the Samsung Galaxy S II Plus, the HTC One S and why not even the LG Optimus 4X HD, its current price sets it on a collision course with the quad-core flagship monsters that wouldn't mind one last fight before retirement, especially one that they're guaranteed to win.
It just doesn't make sense for a phone like the Xperia V to cost about the same (and sometimes even more) than a Samsung Galaxy S III or an HTC One X. Not to mention the Google Nexus 4, which is ridiculously cheap at Google Play"

- GSM Arena...

Conclusion

Why did you post Xperia V verdict ? Xperia SP is much more powerful than Xperia V. It has the same GPU as Xperia Z, HTC One, Nexus 4 etc
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ajaymailed #122
Apr 13, 2013 at 7:35 PM
strictly speaking galaxy s3 US Version shared the same dual core CPU as Xperia V, T, HTC One S etc. Be it dual core or quad core, Krait CPUs will make sure phones run smoothly. My 1.5 yr old Galaxy S2 with a dual core Cortex A9 does everything very smooth, it may struggle a bit with heavy games.

But Camera, Screen Quality, Battery Life, Storage, Audio etc can be compared and would make difference in daily usage. Software , Screen Size, Phone Design, are often subjective, matter of personal preference.

IMO Camera comparison of Xperia SP Vs S3, One X+ will make the final difference. Front VGA Vs 1.9 MP is ok but 8 MP primary Cam is the one to look out for. but considering S3, One X are well known established former flagships in the price range, Xperia SP will struggle.

Sony will have hard time convincing that SP is actually more powerful than S3, the best selling android till date.
eduku
eduku #123
Apr 14, 2013 at 12:52 PM
^

Refer to this review for S3 vs SP. Keep in mind Xperia SP is much more powerful than Xperia V so it will score even higher than the V here

Sony Xperia V review: Bond’s wetsuit - GSMArena.com

V beats S3 in all benchmarks including browser benchmarks except Geekbench

V has 1.5ghz S4 whereas SP has 1.7ghz S4 Pro. V GPU is Adreno 225 and SP has Adreno 320 so we can use Z numbers for GPU comparison. Also V benchmarks are on ICS whereas S3 numbers are on JB

*i.imgur.com/SIXF1GQ.jpg
*i.imgur.com/eNzlitB.jpg
*i.imgur.com/rG9Xs9k.jpg
*i.imgur.com/EELuceO.jpg
*i.imgur.com/bbhrEWc.jpg
*i.imgur.com/gP4doNY.jpg
*i.imgur.com/BCPD3c3.jpg
*i.imgur.com/GaVqkxW.jpg


Z browser scores are lower due to Chrome being used, Chrome is crappy at browser performance.


That's why...

I mean that if Sony wanted to price the SP close to 30K then it would have made sense to equip it with the quad core version of the Krait, that is found in the Optimus G or the Nexus 4 or for that matter the Xperia Z, which in turn should have had the Snapdragon 600...
Of course that's just my opinion...

I guess what I am trying to say is that even though the SP may actually be slightly faster than the SIII or the One X+, the average ("Aam Admi") Indian Customer would still prefer the latter two because they would see that both of those are of proven quality and are "quad cores", as only a few would do extensive research and check benchmarks and reviews. So I think that it is an error on that part of Sony to read the Indian market and Indian consumer...

I don't have anything against Sony, in fact it is by far my favourite consumer electronics company, its just that I feel that over the last 2 years their phones have not been upto my liking as every phone has some major flaw or the other. For example I was set to buy the Xperia U in December, but then I found out about the 4GB non-expandable memory for media storage, which was a real deal breaker. Then we have the Sola with the floating touch display, but that does not have a front camera! Even my 5 year old N73 has one.
And I not even going to talk about the J, where as the P proved to be too expensive and had poor battery backup.
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vpower #124
Apr 16, 2013 at 11:29 AM
Flipkart, which earlier listed Xperia SP for pre-order at Rs.27490, has now reduced price to Rs.25990 :-D

link: Flipkart

Now-with the price reasonable,I am waiting for a detailed review of SP like on gsmarena before buying.

-----
I have been reading TDF for over a month but registered only now.
Thanks for folks out here (like randomuser), I waited from march to buy SP!
randomuser111
Apr 16, 2013 at 12:43 PM
^

You can easily get it for 25k from local stores and even 24.5k if you bargain hard
theserpent
theserpent #126
Apr 16, 2013 at 12:44 PM
Why no Official word of Xperia L still now
randomuser111
Apr 16, 2013 at 12:49 PM
Probably gonna be a silent launch for the L. Will be here same time as SP - month end
theserpent
theserpent #128
Apr 16, 2013 at 1:03 PM
OT:
I really hope i can get it, Hope L is 15k, and I atleast get 7k for my POS Nokia E6. :| I cant handle that phone anymore.
BTW, A batery for E6 costs 1k :O ?
randomuser111
Apr 16, 2013 at 1:05 PM
^

7k for E6 ? I doubt that :p
kapilove77
kapilove77 #130
Apr 16, 2013 at 1:13 PM
Looking nice but i guess i try for ZL.
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vgowtham97 #131
Apr 16, 2013 at 3:06 PM
*i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n483/v_gowtham07/1-5.png
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vpower #132
Apr 16, 2013 at 5:36 PM
^

You can easily get it for 25k from local stores and even 24.5k if you bargain hard
Yep.. always market prices will be lesser than flipkart prices.

Also, randomuser- you haven't clarified whether SP has magnetometer or not :-? If not, it will be shocking as Xperia L has it as per whitepaper!

Reviews have started appearing:
1.CNET- Review: Sony Xperia SP - Mobile Phones - CNET Asia
2.Xperia-Blog- Xperia SP hands-on impressions | Xperia Blog
3.Unleash the Phones-Sony Xperia SP Review | UnleashThePhones
theserpent
theserpent #133
Apr 16, 2013 at 7:30 PM
@random any other budget sony cellphone will be out by june MID?
Reliance offered 3k for my sh!t E6 :(
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Vignesh B #134
Apr 16, 2013 at 7:36 PM
@random any other budget sony cellphone will be out by june MID?
Reliance offered 3k for my sh!t E6 :(
Max that you can get for an E6 is 3.5k. If it is some ultra-noob, he/she can buy it for 4k.

Edit : Corrected :p
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Vignesh B #138
Apr 16, 2013 at 8:34 PM
^^ Good-luck in finding such a person. You are right though.
Majority of people(or may I say noobs) go for the in-thing(ie Android & iOS) now, they don't look for functionality.
In hind-sight even an E6 will suffice for many people with just above basic needs. I know of people who own a Note 2 or a S3, but don't utilize it to even half its potential.
theserpent
theserpent #139
Apr 16, 2013 at 8:38 PM
OT:
I am fed of my E6, sometimes it clicks things itself, opens apps 10 times again and again even if i close it.But if I restart the cell it backs to normal :|
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Vignesh B #140
Apr 16, 2013 at 8:40 PM
OT:
I am fed of my E6, sometimes it clicks things itself, opens apps 10 times again and again even if i close it.But if I restart the cell it backs to normal :|
Re-installed firmware?
Kiss
Kiss #141
Apr 16, 2013 at 10:21 PM
OT:
I am fed of my E6, sometimes it clicks things itself, opens apps 10 times again and again even if i close it.But if I restart the cell it backs to normal :|

Bro, Spare a thought for me.... -> Using N73m for a close to 7 years now... :D
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vpower #142
Apr 16, 2013 at 10:31 PM
^

You can easily get it for 25k from local stores and even 24.5k if you bargain hard

yep..flipkart prices will be higher than local prices!

BTW, @randomuser, have you checked if Xperia SP has magnetometer or not?
If not, it would be weird as Xperia L has it (as per whitepaper)
shreymittal
Apr 17, 2013 at 8:02 AM
Yes it have check on flipkart configuration
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vgowtham97 #144
Apr 17, 2013 at 10:32 AM
Yep.. always market prices will be lesser than flipkart prices.

Also, randomuser- you haven't clarified whether SP has magnetometer or not :-? If not, it will be shocking as Xperia L has it as per whitepaper!

Reviews have started appearing:
1.CNET- Review: Sony Xperia SP - Mobile Phones - CNET Asia
2.Xperia-Blog- Xperia SP hands-on impressions | Xperia Blog
3.Unleash the Phones-Sony Xperia SP Review | UnleashThePhones


CNET Review is saying that camera is under performing..But the sample images seems to be good..?
Sudh4r
Sudh4r #145
Apr 17, 2013 at 11:18 AM
^ The reviewer says regarding the illumination
On that note, we do wish that we could have an option to disable the lights at night--this can be annoying when you're trying to sleep in a darkened room.

Well there is an option to disable the lights. Was he really testing the device?
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vpower #146
Apr 17, 2013 at 12:02 PM
We know Unleashthephones had a hands-on with Xperia SP. Here are the complete photo sets from the reviewer's flickr a/c.

1.Sony Xperia SP Camera Samples
2.Screenshots
3.Exterior Images

From above sample camera images, it looks the camera is good enough for casual users :cool:
Kiss
Kiss #147
Apr 17, 2013 at 12:27 PM
The Major Question... When is L gonna Launch ?? The wait is just getting longer.... !!
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messi94 #148
Apr 17, 2013 at 1:06 PM
The Major Question... When is L gonna Launch ?? The wait is just getting longer.... !!
me too waiting for L. But still no sign of price and release date :(
randomuser111
Apr 17, 2013 at 2:14 PM
It will release soon. Relax. :) Same time as SP, a week or two more at worst
Nerevarine
Nerevarine #150
Apr 17, 2013 at 2:19 PM
Pretty sure Xperia L is gonna be 20-22k at launch
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vgowtham97 #151
Apr 17, 2013 at 2:35 PM
In What departments does the Nexus 4 beats SP? At the same time,In what departments does the SP beat Nexus 4?
Kiss
Kiss #152
Apr 17, 2013 at 2:45 PM
Pretty sure Xperia L is gonna be 20-22k at launch

If so, That will just Ruin my Wait for L.... :( Cause was looking forward towards it cause I'm thinking it would be arnd 17-18k not more.... :|
shreymittal
Apr 17, 2013 at 3:31 PM
In What departments does the Nexus 4 beats SP? At the same time,In what departments does the SP beat Nexus 4?

In no department SP beats nexus
Nexus beats SP in every department handsdowm.:lol:
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vgowtham97 #155
Apr 17, 2013 at 3:45 PM
Infibeam has started selling at 25,490
Kiss
Kiss #156
Apr 17, 2013 at 9:41 PM
Any Idea if Xperia L would have a removable battery.. or like SP we would not be able to take the battery out??
eduku
eduku #159
Apr 18, 2013 at 10:22 PM
@randomuser111
Any other Sony phone in the pipeline, besides the SP and L??
quagmire
quagmire #160
Apr 18, 2013 at 10:58 PM
@randomuser111
Any other Sony phone in the pipeline, besides the SP and L??

Sony Xperia 2013 Thread - Read this thread entirely..

Sony Togari, Dogo, and Gaga
Sony may introduce the largest smartphone experience to date, if the rumored "Togari" proves to be real. A photo of the alleged full HD panel surfaced back in January, showing a massive 6.44-inch display size.
Larger than the Huawei Ascend Mate, it is also expected to be faster and more powerful in nearly every aspect. Components are reported to include 3GB RAM, a 2.3GHZ Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 CPU, Adreno 330 GPU, 32GB of internal storage, and 13-megapixel Exmor RS camera. Powered by a 3,500mAh battery, the Togari should also feature a stylus, NFC, LTE, and an IR blaster.
A Sony "Dogo" may debut in the near term with a Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 CPU, a 4.6-inch HD display, 2GB RAM, and 32GB internal storage. Rumored to come to market as the Xperia A, the device should also be water and dust resistant. Additional hardware is tipped to include a 2,300mAh battery, an IR blaster, and NFC support.
A similarly designed Sony "Gaga" is also on the horizon and should pick up a more formal Xperia UL moniker when it arrives. Specifications are nearly identical to those of the Dogo/Xperia A, except that it is tied to a 5-inch Full HD display.
- CNET

Posts by randomuser111:

Xperia C5502
4.65 inch 1280x720 opticontrast
2 GB RAM
APQ8064 1.5 ghz S4 PRO quad
Adreno 320 GPU
16 GB internal, microSD slot
13 mp Exmor R camera
NFC
Metal unibody design
IP58 water resistant upto more than 1 meters
2100mAh battery
Android jellybean
Will be priced at 28-29k


IGalaxy Grand rival.

5 inch 960x540 qHD screen
1 GB RAM
Mediatek Quad A7 chip
Android 4.1
Touch pen

Will be priced around 15k


Sony's Galaxy Note 3 rival. Coming in June

6.X" 2560x1600 2K screen with Mobile Bravia Engine 2 and OptiContrast panel around 490 PPI
Snapdragon 800 2.3 ghz
Adreno 330 GPU
2/4 GB RAM
3500mAh battery
6mm thin
Touch Pen/Stylus
32 GB Internal memory,microSD expansion
NFC
8 MP Exmor RS camera


In July C670X

4.8" FHD
Snapdragon 600 1.8ghz
13 mp

In October One Sony flagship

Snapdragon 800 2.3ghz
5 inch Triluminos Whitemagic Neo IPS FHD
20 MP 1/2" sensor + Carl Zeiss lens
BIONZ Engine
X-Reality Engine


Upcoming Sony Xperia flagships

Xperia phablet

6.44" 1080p with MBE2
2/4 GB RAM
MSM8974 snapdragon 800 2.3ghz
Adreno 330
3500mAh battery
8 mp/13 mp Exmor RS camera
6mm thin
32 GB Internal Memory, microSD expansion
BT 4.0, NFC, LTE, MHL TV out
IP 55/57 water/dust resistance
Xperia Z like design



Xperia 2H flagship

5" 1080p 2000:1 Contrast screen with X-Reality video processing engine
MSM8974 Snapdragon 800 2.3ghz
Adreno 330
2/4GB RAM
32/64GB Internal, microSD expansion
20 MP (8mp downsampled) Large sensor, slightly bigger than N8 sensor. Sony/Carl Zeiss Optics
BT4.0/NFC/LTE/MHL
IP 55/57 Water/dust resistance
Xenon Flash
3000mAh battery


Xperia Iphone rival

4.0-4.3" 720p HD Reality Display
MSM8974 Snapdragon 800 2.3ghz
Adreno 330
2/4GB RAM
32/64GB Internal, microSD expansion
20 MP (8mp downsampled) Large sensor, slightly bigger than N8 sensor. Sony/Carl Zeiss Optics
BT4.0/NFC/LTE/MHL
IP 55/57 Water/dust resistance
2500mAh battery
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SahilAr #161
Apr 18, 2013 at 11:11 PM
^^
Out of these 3,does any-one contains colored illuminations like xperia sp?
quagmire
quagmire #162
Apr 18, 2013 at 11:51 PM
Confirmed - Xperia SP doesn't have a magneotmeter (acc. to blogger Joe Padre)


The Xperia SP doesn't have a magneotmeter as far as we can see, not sure how the eCompass will work without it or maybe that's a mistake on Sony's part?

Same question : How the eCompass will work without it?
clickclick
clickclick #163
Apr 19, 2013 at 11:16 PM
eagerly waiting for the xperia L :p
Nerevarine
Nerevarine #164
Apr 19, 2013 at 11:22 PM
Sony needs to make jeans with 6 inch pockets
valkeno
valkeno #165
Apr 20, 2013 at 12:15 AM
Hey guys , i really wanna buy Xperia SP reallyy love itt ... but its put up at 25990 .... do you guys think its good to wait 2 month or so till its price slashes a lil
coderunknown
Apr 20, 2013 at 1:36 AM
Hey guys , i really wanna buy Xperia SP reallyy love itt ... but its put up at 25990 .... do you guys think its good to wait 2 month or so till its price slashes a lil

any mobile price will drop if you wait 2 months. if you can then wait but LG may introduce F-series here by then.
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ajaymailed #167
Apr 20, 2013 at 8:34 AM
Xperia S/Ion, S2 Plus, One S are still priced at around 22K. will Sony price SP closer to them?. on the other hand S3 is availaible at 26-27K with cash back offer.
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vpower #177
Apr 21, 2013 at 12:45 AM
Xperia SP is up@ebay for Rs.25500. There is a 6% weekend coupon available (Max Rs.1500). So, you can buy it @24,000 :-D

Link: Sony India Warranty Xperia SP - C5302 - Black Color | eBay
IT seems the seller has good ratings.Also White color available from the same seller.
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SahilAr #178
Apr 21, 2013 at 12:49 AM
Xperia SP is up@ebay for Rs.25500. There is a 6% weekend coupon available (Max Rs.1500). So, you can buy it @24,000 :-D

Link: Sony India Warranty Xperia SP - C5302 - Black Color | eBay
IT seems the seller has good ratings.Also White color available from the same seller.

^^After badly ditched from ebay,i would hardly suggest any one to buy anything from ebay,may be you might want to have a look on my thread before even considering spending "25k"
Here,have a look:*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/service-r...bay-engulfed-39k-please-help-what-do-now.html
quagmire
quagmire #179
Apr 21, 2013 at 1:22 AM
^Buddy he (SXSP seller) is a Power Seller..
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SahilAr #180
Apr 21, 2013 at 1:26 AM
^Buddy he (SXSP seller) is a Power Seller..
Your wish..
But i would not suggest anyone to buy anything from ebay!The seller was also powerseller,who engulfed my 40k.
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vpower #182
Apr 21, 2013 at 12:26 PM
The doubt if SP has magnetometer/compass is cleared!

It has a working eCompass. See this video on Youtube: Sony Xperia SP
e-Compass Test
(watch from 40Secs onwards)
randomuser111
Apr 21, 2013 at 12:57 PM
^

Good catch. Thanks :)
Nerevarine
Nerevarine #184
Apr 21, 2013 at 1:15 PM
^DId you get your 40k back ? Its a large amount, you can even take legal actions
Ronnie11
Ronnie11 #185
Apr 21, 2013 at 1:26 PM
@randomuser111...any word on Xperia L??Been a while...
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vpower #188
Apr 21, 2013 at 2:21 PM
@randomuser: I am waiting for detailed review of SP (like gsmarena) before buying. But, if the review doesn't come within this month end, I'll buy it based on your word :-D Are there any weak points in SP (other than avg. camera)?

BTW, Sony India site lists Xperia L as "Coming soon" LINK, but SP is still unlisted :-? Seems L will come out in a few days!
randomuser111
Apr 21, 2013 at 2:57 PM
No other weak points as far as I know YET.

But it's too early to tell really.
Nerevarine
Nerevarine #190
Apr 21, 2013 at 5:55 PM
Sorry ?




It will launch around the same time as SP, more of a quiet launch

wtf, i was referring to someone else.. where did you come in lol
maybe I am high:hyper:
quagmire
quagmire #191
Apr 21, 2013 at 11:20 PM
CNET Asia review of Xperia SP : Sony Xperia SP

The good: Great design; able to change colors of LED alerts; LTE connectivity; affordable pricing.
The bad: Underperforming camera; 4.6-inch display has terrible viewing angles; annoying flex at the rear of the smartphone.
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SahilAr #192
Apr 21, 2013 at 11:52 PM
^DId you get your 40k back ? Its a large amount, you can even take legal actions

The case will be started most probably by next week,akosha is also following up,they told me that the court papers will soon be ready!
Empirial
Empirial #193
Apr 22, 2013 at 12:36 PM
The doubt if SP has magnetometer/compass is cleared!

It has a working eCompass. See this video on Youtube: Sony Xperia SP
e-Compass Test
(watch from 40Secs onwards)

Also, see this : SONY XPERIA SP Compass Test - YouTube
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Pancul #194
Apr 22, 2013 at 1:52 PM
Does Sony Xperia Z/ZL/SP/L support USB OTG feature?
Nerevarine
Nerevarine #196
Apr 22, 2013 at 5:01 PM
Pretty sure Xperia L is gonna be 20-22k at launch

I was right !!!!
Sony Xperia SP and Xperia L go on pre-order across Europe - GSMArena.com news
If it goes for £234, there's no way it can be any less in INR..
So it should be 20-22k at launch in India
nikufellow
nikufellow #197
Apr 22, 2013 at 5:47 PM
I was right !!!!
Sony Xperia SP and Xperia L go on pre-order across Europe - GSMArena.com news
If it goes for £234, there's no way it can be any less in INR..
So it should be 20-22k at launch in India

:(
Was hoping for 18-19k tag. Hope it settles down soon
randomuser111
Apr 22, 2013 at 5:58 PM
I was right !!!!
Sony Xperia SP and Xperia L go on pre-order across Europe - GSMArena.com news
If it goes for £234, there's no way it can be any less in INR..
So it should be 20-22k at launch in India


Ummm nope.

Why are you considering Germany prices? Going by that logic SP in India should have been 29k. But is it? It's 25k in India, which is lower than Clove pricing as well. Clove pricing for L is 19k, so India price will be 17-18k as I posted.
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vpower #202
Apr 22, 2013 at 6:46 PM
Wrong. L and SP do support USB OTG.

Dual shock controller won't work without USB OTG. DUH!!!
Sorry! I thought otherwise.

BTW, Sony Mobile India has listed SP and has info/support/software update pages.
Xperia

In this link they mention: "Latest available software: 2.0.A.1.211 Release date: 2013-04-26" :-D
Xperia
Nerevarine
Nerevarine #203
Apr 22, 2013 at 7:00 PM
Ummm nope.

Why are you considering Germany prices? Going by that logic SP in India should have been 29k. But is it? It's 25k in India, which is lower than Clove pricing as well. Clove pricing for L is 19k, so India price will be 17-18k as I posted.

Going by that logic, India should have ~26K which is very near to 25.5 k dont you think
£323 = 26608.00 INR
randomuser111
Apr 22, 2013 at 7:30 PM
Going by that logic, India should have ~26K which is very near to 25.5 k dont you think
£323 = 26608.00 INR

What are you saying dude? SP price in India is 25k in stores. UK clove price is 26600.

UK Clove price for L is 19300, so how will it be 22k in India? It will be lower - 18k or less.
nikufellow
nikufellow #205
Apr 22, 2013 at 7:37 PM
^^^^phewwww thats some relief :)
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vgowtham97 #206
Apr 23, 2013 at 10:30 PM
Review by member of Another Forum: [Credits:Kunwar.G]

Went to Ambience mall to handle the SP. One unit was sold till 4pm and they have couple more instock for Rs 24999.00. There are no extras with it, only what comes with the box. MRP is Rs 27499.00. Has sticker mentioning " Reduced price is Rs 25999.00". Shop is selling it for Rs 24999.00.

Worked with the phone for around 20-30 min and here is my review. Hope its find to put the review here.

The moment you hold the SP, you feel that its solidly built. In fact personally like to feel the weight as it feels that you have something substantial in hand. The ZL is really light compared for the size. But keep in mind that any snap-on cover or full cover will increase the weight further. The difference on paper on weight is not much between the two but cause of the smaller size of the SP it feel substantial

Build Quality - The back panel is not smooth or glossy, which means it will not slip out from your hand. It has a slight rubbery feel to it. Very comfortable to hold and perfect size for use by 1 hand, without doubt. They had only the black model so could not confirm if the bezel on the white is actually white or not. The camera, flash and speaker cut-outs are perfect. There are not visible gaps (from approx 10-15cm view from the device) between the back panel and the aluminum body sides

Screen - On paper the difference seemed to be just 0.4 inch, but maybe I didn’t have a good understanding of inches. The difference is there between 4.6 vs 5. But the Z seems just a bit bigger and not at all uncomfortable to hold and work with one hand.

SP screen seemed to be a tad darker than the ZL at full brightness. The bottom bar where the control buttons are just a tad darker than on ZL ( had to keep them really side by side and pixel peep), but still on both its grey and not black.

ZL screen is brighter and much more vibrant than SP, which is obvious, but really once you see the ZL, the SP seems not that great. but if you just ignore the ZL you wouldn’t find anything missing or need for more. Please consider this that I still use the Ipad 1 and don’t feel the 'need' to upgrade for screen.

Speaker & Screen brightness/contrast test - Played same Video on both the ZL and SP ( this is the standard video that comes with SONY where its starts with sunrise/sunset and has flowers in the middle somewhere and then ends with the view of the mountains or maybe its the grand canyon). Played video at same time and kept one in each hand and stretched out my hands completely. Couldn’t decide which one was which, as the speaker from both were giving same output. Couldn’t differentiate much on clarity.

On most scenes it was similar on both, but right at the end of the video where the mountains come into picture the shadow areas were much much darker on the SP. Though that looked really contrasty, but preferred the ZL in case you like real life like image and not like the AMOLED displays. Re-winded and did check the same twice. Maybe this can be corrected by the calibration, but didnt have time to do that and test again

Camera - Well here is the real difference. The ZL has faster and accurate focus. Checked that by first focusing on the far away kept TV and then bringing back the camera to focus on my wrist watch and then on the pamphlets on the table near me. ZL was accurate always and took only 1-1.5 sec moving from far end TV to my watch. SP took couple of seconds and was not getting the focus right on the watch.

SP missed the focus 2 out of 4 times when taking pics of the Sony Z pamphlet which had pics of Katrina on it and also took time to focus. ZL was spot on every time.

The showroom was well light so the auto flash didn’t fire and there was quite a lot of noise on the SP. ZL didn’t have noise. The pamphlet was of white color but there was quite a lot of noise on the Kat's face when captured by the SP.

The processing of the picture taken was almost instant on the SP, so press button, and you can check the pic in gallery. On the ZL once the pic is taken it takes approx 1-2.5 seconds to show-up on gallery. Think that is cause of 8MP vs 13MP.

While testing the video recording the same focus issue with SP.

Software - Both were responsive at same speed. The capacitive buttons and screen were 100% responsive at all times. There was no lag at any time. One thing I noticed and was kind of strange. When you are on home screen and go the extreme right or left home screen and when there are no more screens on that side and you try to scroll further on the SP there is a wave of white light that kinda sprays from the extreme end of that side, the longer you pull the screen the longer is the stray of white light. This spray is not uniform in spread but uniform in brightness. This does not happen on the ZL. On the ZL it just does not scroll any further. Not sure if this si to be taken as a good or bad feature, But this does happen.

The UI on both the ZL and SP is same.

LED lights - In a well lighted room you will not notice the LED on SP unless you have a dark background behind the phone or the snap-on cover is non-transparent. Also you can distinctly make out the 3 LED as the spread is not much. Sony should have had a thinner transparent area, this would have resulted in better illumination and smaller body size. The LED does change its color basis the most prominent color on display while viewing picture. Not same while watching video which is good.
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Apr 24, 2013 at 12:11 PM
you have some uploaded some of the eye catcher pics.. but seems really cool one.. ;)
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vpower #208
Apr 25, 2013 at 7:13 PM
Unboxing videos of Xperia SP starts appearing:
Gsm-arena: The Sony Xperia SP takes a seat in front of our camera - GSMArena Blog

Fonearena: Sony Xperia SP Unboxing

Clove-UK: Sony Xperia SP unboxing

Also, a detailed review may be up on gsmarena in a few days :)
The Rs.21900(after 12% disc.) for Xperia SP on Indiatimes is live for past 2 days. Looks tempting, but is this site reliable?
randomuser111
Apr 25, 2013 at 7:36 PM
^

They will take a LONG time to ship. A month or more
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SahilAr #210
Apr 25, 2013 at 7:50 PM
^

They will take a LONG time to ship. A month or more

Also,there's no guarantee whether they'll ship the order or not,they may cancel the order!
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vpower #211
Apr 25, 2013 at 7:56 PM
Thanks @randomuser & sahilAr! Best option is to wait n get at local shops :)
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SahilAr #212
Apr 25, 2013 at 8:36 PM
^^Hmm ;)
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cooldude94 #213
Apr 26, 2013 at 6:18 PM
Good news guys,Xperia ZR codenamed Dogo specs have leaked out ! finally a compact phone with high end features:)
It has higher water and dust resistance than z.
Source-Xperia ZR
Kiss
Kiss #214
Apr 26, 2013 at 10:12 PM
Good news guys,Xperia ZR codenamed Dogo specs have leaked out ! finally a compact phone with high end features:)
It has higher water and dust resistance than z.
Source-Xperia ZR


Its gonna be expensive for sure....

****************

Not Sure when is Xperia L gonna launch!! :/
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vpower #215
Apr 29, 2013 at 8:08 PM
our DIGIT reviews Xperia SP and rates at 4 out of 5!

Link: Sony Xperia SP Review - Mobile Phone | ThinkDigit Reviews


PROS
Very well built
Text readability is brilliant on the display
Translucent bar below the display is a neat visual element
Consistent performance as a primary phone
Battery will last a day and a half under medium usage

CONS
Very disappointing camera, particularly in low light
Tad on the heavier side
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ajaymailed #216
May 1, 2013 at 8:19 AM
our DIGIT reviews Xperia SP and rates at 4 out of 5!

Link: Sony Xperia SP Review - Mobile Phone | ThinkDigit Reviews


PROS
Very well built
Text readability is brilliant on the display
Translucent bar below the display is a neat visual element
Consistent performance as a primary phone
Battery will last a day and a half under medium usage

CONS
Very disappointing camera, particularly in low light
Tad on the heavier side
gsmarena review also points out the Camera performance, slightly thick & heavier side, and also the screen viewing angles.
Hardware wise, its most powerful dual core Soc out there.
Sony Xperia SP review: SPlendid - GSMArena.com
I tried to compare the Cam performance with S3. Its a not a fair match. while the reviewer comments on SPs video performance being decent, The S3 Video Cam is even better than Galaxy S4 making it really difficult for comparison.
Video Compare Tool - GSMArena.com
*www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=5364&idPhone2=4976&idPhone3=4238
Camera performance makes it really hard to recommend against former flagships like HTC One X & S3, which are available at roughly similar prices.

because of the chrome browser optimizations and 720p screen, SP has beaten all other Android smartphones to top Epic Citadel & Vellamo benchmarks.
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vpower #217
May 1, 2013 at 10:01 AM
Camera performance makes it really hard to recommend against former flagships like HTC One X & S3, which are available at roughly similar prices.
@ajay, SP is available for 25K. But S3 is nowhere near this price point. In most of the places it is still 30K!
Moreover, S3 and its design is way too common -all Samsung (grand/galaxy win etc) look alike :p

Regarding One X, it is a match for SP pricewise at 25K. But, you have heard its battery backup is pathetic. I, and many, will choose a average camera over a poor battery anyday.

One X+ has better battery, but it's costlier at 29K. SP also beats One X/X+ performance-wise.So, as of today SP is a great choice.
s18000rpm
s18000rpm #218
May 1, 2013 at 10:43 AM
Can SP handle HD 3D games?
like GTA, NFS.
randomuser111
May 1, 2013 at 10:53 AM
Can SP handle HD 3D games?
like GTA, NFS.

Yes and probably better than ANY other phone in the market. Even better than Z, Nexus 4, HTC One,S4 etc due to Adreno 320 and HD resolution
s18000rpm
s18000rpm #220
May 1, 2013 at 11:03 AM
thanks man. I want to upgrade from my current Samsung Galaxy GT5510 to a phone like SP :D
probably in 2 months time. I think the price should drop to 22k range by then?
pre order price ~25k now Sony Xperia SP (Black) - Buy Online with Best Prices @ Shopping.IndiaTimes.com
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SahilAr #221
May 1, 2013 at 11:08 AM
@randomuser,I agree with all phones except s4,it has got quad core powerful powervr chip,i don't think adreno 320 is better than that!I agree that xperia sp can handle all such games very easily,but such high end games will be more playful on s4 screen not because of hd screen and not because of dual core gpu,but because of "Full HD" resolution and a quad core "Gpu"

thanks man. I want to upgrade from my current Samsung Galaxy GT5510 to a phone like SP :D
probably in 2 months time. I think the price should drop to 22k range by then?
pre order price ~25k now Sony Xperia SP (Black) - Buy Online with Best Prices @ Shopping.IndiaTimes.com

Don't expect a price cut of 3k in two months,but ya it can be 1-1.7k cheaper than that of price as of now because last time when xperia p launched,it was also launched @25k and it was launched on april,i wanted it to buy on my b'day on 21st june but still the price was 24k,and yaa i noticed that the price of xperia sp is 25k all over the internet websites except ebay the culprit!
s18000rpm
s18000rpm #222
May 1, 2013 at 11:18 AM
Don't expect a price cut of 3k in two months,but ya it can be 1-1.7k cheaper than that of price as of now because last time when xperia p launched,it was also launched @25k and it was launched on april,i wanted it to buy on my b'day on 21st june but still the price was 24k,and yaa i noticed that the price of xperia sp is 25k all over the internet websites except ebay the culprit!
with coupons/cc cash back offers it might :p

Galaxy S duos at Reliance digital sold for 12k today. (may day deal) :p
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SahilAr #223
May 1, 2013 at 11:32 AM
with coupons/cc cash back offers it might :p

Galaxy S duos at Reliance digital sold for 12k today. (may day deal) :p

Yaa,with coupons etc it might be!OMG,galaxy s duos for 12k @Reliance digital,which store and which city?
s18000rpm
s18000rpm #224
May 1, 2013 at 11:32 AM
*i.imgur.com/Aw9j3e0.jpg
bangalore.

*www.reliancedigital.in/samsung-galaxy-s-duos-s7562-smart-phone-white.html

sorry for off topic :p
randomuser111
May 1, 2013 at 11:51 AM
@randomuser,I agree with all phones except s4,it has got quad core powerful powervr chip,i don't think adreno 320 is better than that!I agree that xperia sp can handle all such games very easily,but such high end games will be more playful on s4 screen not because of hd screen and not because of dual core gpu,but because of "Full HD" resolution and a quad core "Gpu"



Don't expect a price cut of 3k in two months,but ya it can be 1-1.7k cheaper than that of price as of now because last time when xperia p launched,it was also launched @25k and it was launched on april,i wanted it to buy on my b'day on 21st june but still the price was 24k,and yaa i noticed that the price of xperia sp is 25k all over the internet websites except ebay the culprit!


Buddy do some research. S4 octa is worse than Adreno 320 in real world gaming and is slower in latest GLBenchmark 2.7 T rex and also 3DMark for Android. :)

Here, see for yourself. GLBenchmark results

*i.imgur.com/hF6NWZL.jpg
*i.imgur.com/DOrjPci.jpg
*i.imgur.com/vJj7w9O.jpg
*i.imgur.com/Po7c14A.jpg
*i.imgur.com/xlWGeIu.jpg
*i.imgur.com/qwv8tra.jpg


Haha what's funny is some deluded people even claimed SP is not at par with S3's quad A9, heck it beats even Octa Galaxy S4 in GPU benchmarks, helped greatly by its lower HD resolution :D
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dhiman33 #227
May 1, 2013 at 12:09 PM
what will happen if the battery shows some problem lately? :'( it is non replacable for SP :'(
theserpent
theserpent #228
May 1, 2013 at 12:12 PM
what will happen if the battery shows some problem lately? :'( it is non replacable for SP :'(

Classic Sony mistakes,Xperia L does have removable battery though, I think the service center can remove it?
randomuser111
May 1, 2013 at 12:13 PM
^

Give it to service center and get it replaced.
theserpent
theserpent #230
May 1, 2013 at 12:13 PM
Xperia L looks amazing, Loved it.Looks smooth, check the video I shared above, Will surely get this phone :)
theserpent
theserpent #232
May 1, 2013 at 12:25 PM
^

Why not LG F5 :D

My Mind was blown looking at the beauty of sony L in that video, but sheesh i think the captive buttons take .3".BTW why do SONY phones screen look smaller compared to other phones of the same size :| ?
randomuser111
May 1, 2013 at 12:26 PM
Hahaha maybe because of the design language. Sony phones are not that wide but tall. :)

And don't worry about the touch buttons. You can remove them after you root the phone. They will show up only when you need them.

*forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330150
theserpent
theserpent #234
May 1, 2013 at 12:29 PM
Ok, Hope Xperia L gets developer support.Sony's UI is seriously better than TOUCHWIZ :D
randomuser111
May 1, 2013 at 12:31 PM
^

You sold your Nokia yet? :p
theserpent
theserpent #236
May 1, 2013 at 12:36 PM
^ Nop :|, will sell it the day i get the phone(maybe may last week).
It's already 1st may and no news of Xperia L
I want to backup my contacts now, Nokia exports each contact as a .vcf file compared to androids (all counts in 1 vcf) so what do i do? :facepalm:
kapilove77
kapilove77 #237
May 1, 2013 at 12:44 PM
My sony xperia ZL rocks but it's gets heat up. But i know every phone gets too. Viewing angles are not great but it isn't bad either like people make. In day 2 day life this phone rock even its behind in benchmarks than s4 or htc one. Adreno 320 is too powerfull but the thing is games aren't optimized for it that why it may get lag behind other gpus.
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SahilAr #238
May 1, 2013 at 12:50 PM
one thing is for sure,"Adreno 320" will not Lag behind,ya it may "lack" behind other gpus'
randomuser111
May 1, 2013 at 12:57 PM
^ Nop :|, will sell it the day i get the phone(maybe may last week).
It's already 1st may and no news of Xperia L
I want to backup my contacts now, Nokia exports each contact as a .vcf file compared to androids (all counts in 1 vcf) so what do i do? :facepalm:

There are many apps for that. Don't worry about that. :D
randomuser111
May 1, 2013 at 1:03 PM
Yes, try this

If you're moving from a Nokia mobile phone to an Android phone, or perhaps you simply want to import all of your contacts into your Google account, you may find that the Nokia Ovi Suite only lets you import all your contacts as individual .vcf files. Google doesn't currently allow you to import multiple files at once, so unless you want to import them one-by-one you need this little tip:

Open a command prompt (Win+R then type cmd)
Change directory to the one where you've saved your many .vcf files (type cd then the directory structure)
Type: copy /B *.vcf all_in_one.vcf

Voilà! You now have one big VCF file which will zip up to your Google account in no time :)
theserpent
theserpent #242
May 1, 2013 at 1:06 PM
Change directory to the one where you've saved your many .vcf files (type cd then the directory structure)
Type: copy /B *.vcf all_in_one.vcf

Sorry I am a noob in this
So my contacts are in D drive in contact folder so what would the comand be?
randomuser111
May 1, 2013 at 1:13 PM
Okay then just do this. Much simpler.

Open the folder where your .vcf files are stored.

Maximise window and then keep the SHIFT key pressed and right click. Then choose Open Command Window here

And type command

*.vcf all_in_one.vcf
theserpent
theserpent #244
May 1, 2013 at 1:24 PM
Okay then just do this. Much simpler.

Open the folder where your .vcf files are stored.

Maximise window and then keep the SHIFT key pressed and right click. Then choose Open Command Window here

And type command

*.vcf all_in_one.vcf

Nop tried :| doesn't show up
randomuser111
May 1, 2013 at 1:26 PM
What doesn't show up ?

Follow this guide

*www.themobileindian.com/news/7749_How-to-merge-multiple-contact-files-into-one
clickclick
clickclick #247
May 2, 2013 at 11:00 AM
Sony xperia L launched at 19000 in India, to be released on 8th May

*i.imgur.com/aU21WAI.jpg
randomuser111
May 2, 2013 at 11:04 AM
^

Again, that's the MRP. It will be available for 17.5-18k :)

Like SP

MRP 27490

Street price 24k

So L

MRP 19990

Street price 17.5k
theserpent
theserpent #249
May 2, 2013 at 11:28 AM
18K :( sad news
randomuser111
May 2, 2013 at 12:15 PM
^

By end May you can get it from Ebay for 16.5k with coupon. Don't worry. :)

And to be frank this is the price that I told you it was gonna be way back when Z wasn't launched even, so there is nothing shocking at all.

Chill :D

Though I think you may get it for 17.5k next week itself from a local store.
theserpent
theserpent #251
May 2, 2013 at 1:17 PM
^

By end May you can get it from Ebay for 16.5k with coupon. Don't worry. :)

And to be frank this is the price that I told you it was gonna be way back when Z wasn't launched even, so there is nothing shocking at all.

Chill :D

Though I think you may get it for 17.5k next week itself from a local store.

Never :D, BTW I am selling a NOOB my E6 for 5k :D, hope he likes it
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shitz7 #252
May 2, 2013 at 8:52 PM
^

By end May you can get it from Ebay for 16.5k with coupon. Don't worry. :)

And to be frank this is the price that I told you it was gonna be way back when Z wasn't launched even, so there is nothing shocking at all.

Chill :D

Though I think you may get it for 17.5k next week itself from a local store.


Where can i get those E-bay coupons ?

I was planning to buy This-
Sony XPERIA Z - 16 GB - Black Smartphone | eBay
randomuser111
May 2, 2013 at 9:03 PM
Never :D, BTW I am selling a NOOB my E6 for 5k :D, hope he likes it

OMG !!!

Lucky you :p And poor noob. LOL

Where can i get those E-bay coupons ?

I was planning to buy This-
Sony XPERIA Z - 16 GB - Black Smartphone | eBay

Why you need coupon ? Z is available for 34.5k now in local stores.
randomuser111
May 3, 2013 at 9:26 AM
Yes if you wait another month or two
theserpent
theserpent #256
May 3, 2013 at 9:35 AM
I am waiting still june, the price is a bit high :(
randomuser111
May 3, 2013 at 12:28 PM
^

What price are you expecting ?
theserpent
theserpent #258
May 3, 2013 at 1:12 PM
Around 15k :|
randomuser111
May 3, 2013 at 3:16 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. I don't see it selling for 15k anytime soon. Not until late September/October.
theserpent
theserpent #260
May 3, 2013 at 6:59 PM
Flipkart shows L will be out by may 3rd week
randomuser111
May 3, 2013 at 7:39 PM
They try to show a later date than actual most of the times. They did the same with Z and SP :)
theserpent
theserpent #262
May 3, 2013 at 8:27 PM
True,
Another problem is My parents are NO-NO to sony
theserpent
theserpent #265
May 4, 2013 at 8:56 AM
Haha okay. What brands are they okay with? ;)

No idea, it's like, what if the phone wont be good like my E6? Main problem is Digital stocks more of samsung :|, now they have a dedicated table for all samsung phones, they hardly stock sony, some sangeetha stocks more of chinese phones and even if they have Xperia L, they wont have a demo model, I am more concerned of it's display, hearing it's not up to the mark
randomuser111
May 4, 2013 at 9:34 AM
Hmmmmmm. Then buy Galaxy Grand :D
randomuser111
May 4, 2013 at 9:54 AM
I'm not :D

You can't buy Xperia L, pretty sure LG won't be okayed by your parents either. So that leaves you with Galaxy Grand or maybe nokia Lumia 720
theserpent
theserpent #269
May 4, 2013 at 10:09 AM
Called up sony,they told by May 7th the phone will be out, will go to digital(hope it's available there) will use it and see if meets my needs
Kiss
Kiss #270
May 5, 2013 at 12:09 AM
Would Xperia L outperform Xperia Ion which was launched in early 2012...??
randomuser111
May 5, 2013 at 9:19 AM
Of course. L is significantly more potent than Ion
Ronnie11
Ronnie11 #272
May 5, 2013 at 11:23 AM
How is SXL battery life??Will it last a day under normal usage?
randomuser111
May 5, 2013 at 12:27 PM
slightly more than the S
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vpower #274
May 5, 2013 at 5:18 PM
Got a black SPecial SPlendid Xperia SP today :)
quagmire
quagmire #276
May 6, 2013 at 3:47 PM
Sony Xperia L available on Snapdeal Rs 18990
A
May 11, 2013 at 12:47 PM
How is the Xperia SP, when compared against its predecessor, Xperia SL?
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dhiman33 #279
May 12, 2013 at 12:22 AM
bought the sp at 24.5k today :D ..but i have noticed one bug. light does not blink in case of a missed call. does anybody know how to fix this?
shreymittal
May 12, 2013 at 12:24 AM
Congrats Dude
Please Post some pics and a detailed review..
D
dhiman33 #281
May 12, 2013 at 12:56 AM
man i am stuck with a problem :( no fm recording in this.. :'( i love to record songs all the time..any way t do that? (i'll try to give a review once i get the time :D )
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SahilAr #282
May 12, 2013 at 3:34 PM
I bought xperia sp from sonipat,it costed me 24.4k.I really didn't expected this atleast from sony!Totally wrong colors!!White is not white,it is yellow,colors are very dark!I tried playing ninjump deluxe on xperia sp,the colors really look very bad...will be returning it for sure and will get s3 instead!
randomuser111
May 12, 2013 at 3:42 PM
^

Use White Balance app to fix it in Display settings.

Use Hue 220, Saturation 9
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SahilAr #284
May 12, 2013 at 3:51 PM
Nahh,,it didn't solved the issue!The colors are still the same-inaccurate!!
kapilove77
kapilove77 #285
May 12, 2013 at 3:54 PM
thx random didn;t know that settings. tried it now my device look more brilliant. thx. :D
randomuser111
May 12, 2013 at 6:16 PM
Nahh,,it didn't solved the issue!The colors are still the same-inaccurate!!

Play around with White Balance settings until it shows perfect white.
RohanM
RohanM #287
May 21, 2013 at 6:04 PM
Xperia L Review by phonearena... only 6.5 rating....

randomuser111
May 21, 2013 at 7:32 PM
^

Usual from PA. Bullcrap reviews as always. If you read the review, they don't even justify the 6.5 score.
.jRay.
.jRay. #289
May 21, 2013 at 11:09 PM
^yup, i agree,

@rohan. trust reviews only from gsmarena, techradar, engadget, or tdf members.;)
RohanM
RohanM #290
May 22, 2013 at 9:09 AM
^^ @nickaustin - I just posted it mate. I like to watch video reviews of phones. Anyway I am not gonna buy any Xperia soon. Planning for N4.
And ya I trust Gsmarena only.
Empirial
Empirial #291
May 22, 2013 at 3:24 PM
Sony Xperia L Benchmarks
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dhiman33 #292
May 25, 2013 at 12:24 AM
Anyone experiencing extreme low call volume on xperia sp?? not on earphone..not for alarms or any otheer sounds. Only when I'm using the earspeaker to make or receive the call, i find the call volume extremely low. Google searching reveals this is a known issue/bug. Do we have to install a mod to make it normal??
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vgowtham97 #293
May 25, 2013 at 12:43 PM
Anyone experiencing extreme low call volume on xperia sp?? not on earphone..not for alarms or any otheer sounds. Only when I'm using the earspeaker to make or receive the call, i find the call volume extremely low. Google searching reveals this is a known issue/bug. Do we have to install a mod to make it normal??

1.Go to Settings -> Call Settings and set the equaliser to Bright.

2.Switch of speaker voice enhancement in Call Settings.

3.Go to Settings -> Sound and switch on Clear Phase and xLOUD...
Nerevarine
Nerevarine #294
May 25, 2013 at 12:56 PM
Xperia L pwns even cortex a7 based quadcores..
Nice JOB sony.. Really well DONE :)
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cooldude94 #295
May 27, 2013 at 12:32 AM
sony xperia l @16k at homeshop18 superdeals grab fast.
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Kiss
Kiss #296
May 29, 2013 at 10:28 PM
Guys is Xperia L capable to playing 1080p(full Hd videos)?? cause in the gadgets portal review I head him saying it can only play back 720p video's... :?
ZTR
ZTR #297
May 29, 2013 at 10:47 PM
Guys is Xperia L capable to playing 1080p(full Hd videos)?? cause in the gadgets portal review I head him saying it can only play back 720p video's... :?

Yes it is :)
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dhiman33 #298
May 30, 2013 at 8:25 PM
I have a microscopic scratch at the lower right corner of SP .. :'( when i open a picture and the led strips glows, I can see a 1 mm dark line at the edge.. I think it's on the shatter proof sheet over the actual glass .. any idea how to remove it? :'(
thetechfreak
May 30, 2013 at 8:45 PM
A friend purchased Xperia L yesterday(under my recommendation :p )

The build quality of the phone is pretty good. The lock button and volume button felt pretty robust. The screen quality was also good. Sony made many UI changes it seems, which are pretty decent(except the menu layout which I don't like at all). Camera felt good to use(not to mention the flash was also pretty good)

Not sure how much it costed him though(he bought locally).
theserpent
theserpent #300
May 30, 2013 at 8:47 PM
A friend purchased Xperia L yesterday(under my recommendation :p )

The build quality of the phone is pretty good. The lock button and volume button felt pretty robust. The screen quality was also good. Sony made many UI changes it seems, which are pretty decent(except the menu layout which I don't like at all). Camera felt good to use(not to mention the flash was also pretty good)

Not sure how much it costed him though(he bought locally).

Yup I used the phone again today and it's great, buying the phone tomo hopefully :)

Atleast your friends listen to you :p, I told my friend to get this but.....he bought.GRAND

+Sony doesnt have so much bloatware like samsung ;).
Now I hate samsung next to apple :p
thetechfreak
May 30, 2013 at 8:53 PM
^^

The guys at the shop were forcing him to get "Quad Core" Grand. But finally he got the Xperia L. There is less bloatware, although a couple of apps to view a few Sony channels. He's really enjoying the phone now :p
theserpent
theserpent #302
May 30, 2013 at 8:55 PM
The Shop where I went, has a person for everyphone, There was a sony guy :p he wasn't a noob luckly.
The notification light changes as you change the song(changes to the color of the album art)
thetechfreak
May 30, 2013 at 8:59 PM
^^
Hadn't noticed those yet. The phone is good, best of luck for your purchase tomorrow :wink:
Kiss
Kiss #304
May 30, 2013 at 11:26 PM
Yes it is :)

^^Thanks for the update... :)

@Serp.. Do tell us for how much you bought it and ur experience... I'm hopeful of buying it on Saturday... ;)
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dhiman33 #305
May 30, 2013 at 11:33 PM
is xperia L > lg l9 ?? which one is better? my sis has a budget of 18k and i'm confused to suggest her the best one.
shreymittal
May 30, 2013 at 11:39 PM
is xperia L > lg l9 ?? which one is better? my sis has a budget of 18k and i'm confused to suggest her the best one.

Get her XL or Lumia 720
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dhiman33 #307
May 30, 2013 at 11:43 PM
no, we are not considering windows phone. Then arnd 18k Xperia L is better than LG L9??
shreymittal
May 30, 2013 at 11:50 PM
Get XL then. :)
Yup XL is better than L9
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dhiman33 #309
May 31, 2013 at 12:11 AM
Hey mate, can you please tell why u think xl is better than lg l9? apart from the camera? :)
mohit9206
mohit9206 #310
May 31, 2013 at 12:34 AM
Is XL really better than Grand Quattro ?
Nerevarine
Nerevarine #311
May 31, 2013 at 1:40 AM
Hey mate, can you please tell why u think xl is better than lg l9? apart from the camera? :)

Well, Xperia L has a better chipest, and a waaaaaay better GPU than LG L9
However, The L9 also has a better resolution display..
Id prefer the Xperia L tho, mostly because it is more future proof and looks awesome

Is XL really better than Grand Quattro ?

Grand quattro uses a cortex a5 based processor.. CPU benchmarks might seem good enough but in reality, gaming on it would suck after some days
J
May 31, 2013 at 3:44 PM
Sony is all set to give toughest competition to its biggest rival Samsung with its Xperia and on other hand Samsung is planing for its next counter.:razz:. There is one more news that Xperia S, Xperia SL & Acros S to have android jelly bean
in it.
randomuser111
May 31, 2013 at 4:29 PM
Sony is all set to give toughest competition to its biggest rival Samsung with its Xperia and on other hand Samsung is planing for its next counter.:razz:. There is one more news that Xperia S, Xperia SL & Acros S to have android jelly bean
in it.

Thank you, that's flattering. LOL
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maryam88 #314
May 31, 2013 at 4:59 PM
Its a good phone but I am waiting for 5s now....
thetechfreak
May 31, 2013 at 6:32 PM
^^
One doesn't compare a phone costing more than double with a Xperia L :facepalm:
ZTR
ZTR #316
May 31, 2013 at 8:42 PM
LG is also gonna give competition to L with L9 II which has the same chipset but comes with 720p screen :mrgreen:
101gamzer
101gamzer #317
May 31, 2013 at 8:57 PM
^And Sammy with S4 Mini.
funskar
funskar #318
May 31, 2013 at 9:36 PM
^And Sammy with S4 Mini.

F*** samshit s4 mini,, same plastic **** design.. and keep in mind it will not cost less than 25k..

But the truth is today no brand even lg sony htc can pawn samshit in andro..

There is only one nokia bt that **** elop destroyed nokia n will destroy it by not making nokia andro:evil:
pratyush997
May 31, 2013 at 9:48 PM
F*** samshit s4 mini,, same plastic **** design.. and keep in mind it will not cost less than 25k..

But the truth is today no brand even lg sony htc can pawn samshit in andro..

There is only one nokia bt that **** elop destroyed nokia n will destroy it by not making nokia andro:evil:
He was the one who saved Nokia from destroying. Well check out the links here
101gamzer
101gamzer #320
May 31, 2013 at 10:02 PM
F*** samshit s4 mini,, same plastic **** design.. and keep in mind it will not cost less than 25k..

But the truth is today no brand even lg sony htc can pawn samshit in andro..

There is only one nokia bt that **** elop destroyed nokia n will destroy it by not making nokia andro:evil:

But it still has some impressive specs
1.7GHz Dual core
1.5gb ram
4.3 screen
Nerevarine
Nerevarine #321
May 31, 2013 at 10:59 PM
^Nexus 4 should give it quite a lot of competition
even if the processor is slightly better, N4 has a 720p screen, 4.7 inch , 2 GB of RAM, tonnes more community support
pratyush997
May 31, 2013 at 11:03 PM
^Nexus 4 should give it quite a lot of competition
even if the processor is slightly better, N4 has a 720p screen, 4.7 inch , 2 GB of RAM, tonnes more community support
+ Will stay updated for more 2 years :D
amjath
amjath #324
Jun 1, 2013 at 7:56 AM
battery test for xperia l is out, FYI
The Sony Xperia L's battery test completes, the results are inside - GSMArena Blog
randomuser111
Jun 1, 2013 at 9:37 AM
Interesting, that's just 3 hours less than LG L9 with 1:30mins extra talktime, and 1:40 mins extra browsing. Only video playback is lower than L9.
Kiss
Kiss #326
Jun 1, 2013 at 11:27 AM
And we thought Batter backup of L9 is way better than that of L. :-D
randomuser111
Jun 1, 2013 at 1:24 PM
And we thought Batter backup of L9 is way better than that of L. :-D

Yup mainly due to the efficiency of Qualcomm krait. :)

Although if LG L9 II is launched at a sub 20k price, it will be a much better buy than L with a bigger 720p Display and bigger battery.
theserpent
theserpent #329
Jun 1, 2013 at 1:43 PM
^I feel the price will be atleast 21k
theserpent
theserpent #331
Jun 1, 2013 at 2:02 PM
Xperia L is amazing,forget l9 II just get this
ZTR
ZTR #332
Jun 1, 2013 at 2:03 PM
^I feel the price will be atleast 21k

It will be priced under 20k IMO as they won't be aiming at S4 Mini but L and their own L9

Also the new L II series are priced where L I was priced so I believe L9 II will be at 18k
theserpent
theserpent #333
Jun 1, 2013 at 2:41 PM
^Hope,but mostly it wont be :), this phone is aimed at Xperia SP :)
Kiss
Kiss #334
Jun 1, 2013 at 4:32 PM
^I feel the price will be atleast 21k

Yes I feel LG will price it closer to SGS4 mini due to the 720pHD 4.7 inch display. Around 22.5k I'd say

I feel the same.. It would be initially placed between 20-22k as like Grand... and moreover it would take more 3-4 months to be launch.... lol
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dhiman33 #335
Jun 1, 2013 at 5:34 PM
anyone rooted your sp? i can't find anything on google yet. do i need to unlock bootloader first?
theserpent
theserpent #336
Jun 1, 2013 at 5:49 PM
anyone rooted your sp? i can't find anything on google yet. do i need to unlock bootloader first?

Keep checking here
Sony Xperia SP - xda-developers
randomuser111
Jun 1, 2013 at 8:06 PM
anyone rooted your sp? i can't find anything on google yet. do i need to unlock bootloader first?

Wait few days. It's not worth it to unlock bootloader, you will lose official Sony warranty.
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cooldude94 #338
Jun 2, 2013 at 12:40 AM
Xperia ZL(BLACK) @30875 on flipkart !! Is there a price cut by sony or is this a promotion ?
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randomuser111
Jun 2, 2013 at 9:29 AM
I believe it's a price cut.
KyleSforza
KyleSforza #340
Jun 2, 2013 at 6:18 PM
anyone rooted your sp? i can't find anything on google yet. do i need to unlock bootloader first?

*www.facebook.com/groups/sonyxperiasp/
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dhiman33 #341
Jun 5, 2013 at 3:40 PM
mates we don't have native support for ac3 audio!! :hissyfit: i can only play videos with ac3 audio in software mode which i don't like at all :-\ (mxplayer or bsplayer). so do we have any way to play ac3 using hw mode? :-(
quagmire
quagmire #342
Jun 5, 2013 at 4:55 PM
^ Discussion Thread is here: *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/mobiles-tablets/174458-xperia-l-sp-thread.html
Kiss
Kiss #343
Jun 5, 2013 at 8:41 PM
chk out the offer for the day... Xperia L for 16140 on flipkart...

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Kiss
Kiss #345
Jun 5, 2013 at 8:53 PM
^ :agreed:
mohit9206
mohit9206 #346
Jun 6, 2013 at 1:31 AM
xperia L lacks lots of features for that price range

1) it doesnt have a HD display with 228 ppi
2) it lacks bravia engine
3) it does not support flash
4) it does not have gyroscope sensor
5) video recording is just 720p and not 1080p unlike other smartphones in the segment
6) it does not support HDMI
randomuser111
Jun 6, 2013 at 8:27 AM
^

Are you high, dude? :)
Kiss
Kiss #348
Jun 6, 2013 at 10:32 AM
xperia L lacks lots of features for that price range

1) it doesnt have a HD display with 228 ppi
2) it lacks bravia engine
3) it does not support flash
4) it does not have gyroscope sensor
5) video recording is just 720p and not 1080p unlike other smartphones in the segment
6) it does not support HDMI

Hey Mohit,
Please tell us which phone has all the above features(BEST PHONE) and we'll get it for arnd 16-18k?? Please refer from (LG, Sony, Samsung, HTC, APPLE(yea even apple might be we have overlooked a stunning piece with iOs)),


^

Are you high, dude? :)


:rofl: