Starfield · DIGIT-ARC

Genre: RPG
Developer: Bethesda Game Studios (Homepage)
Publisher: Bethesda Softworks (Homepage)
Franchise: Starfield
Release Date: 2023

Starfield is the first new universe in 25 years from Bethesda Game Studios, the award-winning creators of The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim and Fallout 4. In this next generation role-playing game set amongst the stars, create any character you want and explore with unparalleled freedom as you embark on an epic journey to answer humanity’s greatest mystery.

The year is 2330. Humanity has ventured beyond our solar system, settling new planets, and living as a spacefaring people. From humble beginnings as a space miner, you will join Constellation – the last group of space explorers seeking rare artifacts throughout the galaxy – and navigate the vast expanse of the Settled Systems in Bethesda Game Studios’ biggest and most ambitious game.

Source: Steam

Looks mysterious, whether is it a Space Suim or a RPG in the line of Mass Effect and similar or something else entirely. Lets wait and watch.

New trailer. I didn't even realize this trailer was released

Took long time to release ?

I mean the trailer came out around 16th June but I did not know until I saw it in the latest mxr video.

I mean it was announced in 2018 and will be released in Nov, 2022

This another cyberpunk in the making ? Or maybe bethesda will just release a half finished game and ask us to fix it with "mod support"

What do you think? It's Bethesda. I'd be surprised if there are no hiccups after launch.

But I still favour them using Creation Engine since it means better mod support.

Honestly, I didn't encounter any game breaking bug in Skyrim, and even if there was a bug you could just reload your last quick save you did 1 minute ago, the loading was pretty fast too.

Looks promising, it looks like a mix of Star Citizen and No Man's Sky. Except this one is actually coming out in 2023.

I think like any Bethesda game this is bound to have bugs and performance issues, at least at launch.

I am more curious to see what modders will do with this game.

Desmond said:
Looks promising, it looks like a mix of Star Citizen and No Man's Sky. Except this one is actually coming out in 2023.

I think like any Bethesda game this is bound to have bugs and performance issues, at least at launch.

I am more curious to see what modders will do with this game.

I just hope it is not another CP2077.

Desmond said:
Looks promising, it looks like a mix of Star Citizen and No Man's Sky. Except this one is actually coming out in 2023.

I think like any Bethesda game this is bound to have bugs and performance issues, at least at launch.

I am more curious to see what modders will do with this game.

It looks like Star Citizen and Fallout 4. It even looks like they are reusing fallout 4 assets. Those crab things move just like mirelurks and the guns look and feel like laser rifles. Even the grenade indicator is straight from fallout 4.

Releasing September

Who wants to bet the game will be buggy and nowhere near as polished as shown here at launch.

Desmond said:
Who wants to bet the game will be buggy and nowhere near as polished as shown here at launch.

I'm expecting that. Have other concerns like the main storyline & game getting repetitive and/or boring after initial 10hrs or so.

Even though this is a fallout 4 reskin, still looking forward to this.

Current Bethsoft isn't like older Bethsoft if Fallout 4 is any indication. Fallout 4's story is also kinda lackluster and NPCs are somewhat forgettable except a few. I suspect this might be more or less the same.

Very likely some quests will be good but rest will be Radiant quests I think since Bethsoft loves to use Radiant quests.

Nerevarine said:
The weapons, HUD and everything looks like a fallout 4 reskin.

It's same engine, so....

Technically Elder Scrolls and Fallout are all reskins.

I really wish Bethesda made the decision to actually take off and land on planets, like you can do in Star Citizen. It is truly amazing, and one needs to see it in action to understand it.

So far, the closest competitor to Starfield seems to be The Outer Worlds. I think in terms of explorability, bethesda wins but story and writing, Obsidian hands down be better.

Nerevarine said:
So far, the closest competitor to Starfield seems to be The Outer Worlds

Star Citizen too, has better exploration with realtime take-off and landing from/on planets.

The Outer Worlds nailed the exploration and writing IMO but sucked in gameplay mechanics since it was for the most part a junk picking simulator, plus there was ammo everywhere. At one point I had collected around 12000 ammo without even buying more and that lasted me the rest of the game. But storywise it was pretty good and characters were pretty memorable. It's not anywhere close to New Vegas though.

Also, don't forget about this.

Nerevarine said:
I really wish Bethesda made the decision to actually take off and land on planets, like you can do in Star Citizen. It is truly amazing, and one needs to see it in action to understand it.

So far, the closest competitor to Starfield seems to be The Outer Worlds. I think in terms of explorability, bethesda wins but story and writing, Obsidian hands down be better.

I thought Star Citizen is not released. When did that happen?

gameranand said:
I thought Star Citizen is not released. When did that happen?

It's kind of in early access and will probably remain like this for a long time.

gameranand said:
I thought Star Citizen is not released. When did that happen?

Its in alpha, I think, yet to reach beta, forget official release.

I was once interested in that game but after I followed it for 1 year, I was kinda sure that it'll never release.

I got back to it again and it runs okayish now. When I joined during invictus week (F2P week), the servers were crashing constantly. Its a bit better now.
I also upgraded RAM to 32 GB, runs much better.

Star citizen is snake oil scam product. Do not mention in this thread, its an insult to Starfield or any other game that is actually getting a release.

Darth Vader said:
Star citizen is snake oil scam product. Do not mention in this thread, its an insult to Starfield or any other game that is actually getting a release.

Agreed. It has been in alpha/beta for so long that its almost feels like a scam to me. They do generate a lot of hype & raise enough money to keep them afloat, time will tell what happens to them.

Hopefully the initial bugs & glitches will be squashed before the 6th. I'm still looking forward to playing it on 6th.

I think I will wait a while and see how they are planning on adding mod support before planning on buying.

Desmond said:
I think I will wait a while and see how they are planning on adding mod support before planning on buying.

Dont forget unofficial patch to fix all bugs lol

Does it have any significant bugs? I know Bethsoft games are notorious for it but I haven't really watched much gameplay of this one.

It is very hard on the gpu even 4070ti gets only 60-65 fps on high settings at 1080p.
3060 getting 30fps only on native.

Does it support DLSS? There are a few mods that enable DLSS for this game IIRC. This might allow you to squeeze out a bit more performance out of it.

DLSS vs FSR, I doubt there's performance gap but DLSS is said to have a slight visual advantage (not noticeable for most).

I'm appaled by the performance numbers of this game.

Surely the below benchmarks were from a relatively intensive area in a forest, but still, my 3070 can't do 60fps at 1080p medium. These are w/o FSR which is by default enabled on game's presets, which is a shitty move as well.

Reminds me of Fallout 4's performance at launch. I kind of expected this, which is why I didn't buy this game on day-1.

If we wait for a year or so, someone will probably make a mod to optimize meshes and textures to help us squeeze out some performance.

Desmond said:
Reminds me of Fallout 4's performance at launch. I kind of expected this, which is why I didn't buy this game on day-1.

If we wait for a year or so, someone will probably make a mod to optimize meshes and textures to help us squeeze out some performance.

I have the itch to play it tomorrow, let's see how it goes on my i5 12400 + 3070.

Going by the given benchmarks, perhaps you'll need DLSS. There are two mods so far that add DLSS support to this game IIRC.

Desmond said:
Going by the given benchmarks, perhaps you'll need DLSS. There are two mods so far that add DLSS support to this game IIRC.

I'll try with Hardware Unboxed's optimised performance settings tomorrow at 1080p. Let's see how it goes. HUB did test kind of a heavy area for the benchmark, so let's see.

Played Starfield for 2 hours or so. Game doesn't have an option to run fullscreen at lower resolution (it runs windowed if I set 1080p on my 1440p monitor).

So I'm getting around 60fps in some places with higher fps in low demanding areas. Using HUB performance mode settings at 1440p with FSR set to 75% render resolution (so render at 1080p, then upscale, similar to FSR2 ultra quality preset in other games). I do see occasional 55-58fps, not too noticeable fps drops as of now. The game doesn't look good enough relative to the horsepower it needs to run, no way around it.

Initially the game is going slow. Keep expectations in check, reviewers were right about missed potential for sure.

Are you gonna buy steam version for skse equivalent support in future or use gamepass version which would be heavily restricted for moddability.

Moddability is a must for me, so I will go with the Steam release.

Nerevarine said:
Are you gonna buy steam version for skse equivalent support in future or use gamepass version which would be heavily restricted for moddability.

There's no way I pay 5k for this above average game with bad performance, not even worth 2.5k IMO. Perhaps modders might patch it up including optimising the performance, but its the job of the company. I do hope the community can take it to new heights in the coming years, but time will tell.

There are no major bugs that I encountered, still games like HZD, Witcher 3, AC Origins/Odyssey, etc were able to wow me within few hours of playing.

Quality of games are poor these days in general. It went downhill since 2020 IMO. Still I'm going to complete Starfield because I want to play some new game. I played FIFA 23's ultimate team a lot this year, so want something new.

Never Pay or Play any game that doesnt adhere to regional pricing. Atleast Starfield is on GamePass, there are worse like Destiny 2 final expansion DLC that cost more than a full AAA game lol.

omega44-xt said:
Quality of games are poor these days in general. It went downhill since 2020 IMO. Still I'm going to complete Starfield because I want to play some new game. I played FIFA 23's ultimate team a lot this year, so want something new.

Why we dont have BG3 thread lol.

Desmond said:
Moddability is a must for me, so I will go with the Steam release.

ME too, i dont necessarily need to play this atm, its fallout 4.5 at best. Will wait 2 years and get @ 50% off legendary edition.

I had bought FO4 on day one with the Diwali bonus I had got back in 2015. It turned out to be mediocre compared to FO3 and FONV. So I learned my lesson.

Bethsoft's brand of RPG isn't really what is used to be. Technically even Skyrim isn't a good RPG (it's fun but still no depth).

I'll still buy Starfield, but not anytime soon.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1699169046934216795

Darth Vader said:
Never Pay or Play any game that doesnt adhere to regional pricing. Atleast Starfield is on GamePass, there are worse like Destiny 2 final expansion DLC that cost more than a full AAA game lol.

True, playing it on Gamepass myself.

Nerevarine said:
Why we dont have BG3 thread lol.

Heard good things about BG3 for sure. But its just 1 game in 2023. Its isometric view & turn based gameplay are putting me off from trying it, but might try it sometime in future. I'm looking forward to Cities Skyline II next month.

BG3 has more depth than most RPGs. I might come around to BG3 once I finish BG1 and BG2.

Todd Howard asked on-air why Bethesda didn't optimise Starfield for PC: 'We did [...] you may need to upgrade your PC'

"Uh… we did," says Howard, as Phil Spencer fails to suppress a chuckle. "It's running great. It is a next gen PC game, we really do push the technology, so you may need to upgrade your PC for this game, but it's got a lot of great stuff going on in it and the fans are responding awesome."

*www.pcgamer.com/todd-howard-asked-...or-pc-we-did-you-may-need-to-upgrade-your-pc/

Lmao Todd.

I don't think the game is next-gen. Graphics are at a stage of diminishing returns with requirements increasing without any tangible benefit. The most popular GPU on steam is 1650, which is worse than the previous most popular GPU, 1060. So most players can't play Starfield well. They should have targeted 60fps on XB SX honestly. I doubt anything will change with updates as it seems like a core issue which needs a lot of work.

I put in 24hrs+ on Starfield.

The main story becomes much more interesting after Into the Unknown & All That Money Can Buy quests. Surely there are missed opportunities here & there but the game is enjoyable. Game doesn't explain stuff well too, so some YouTube videos might help you with that. Some side missions are very interesting, need to do more of these. I got my 2nd ship from a side mission which is a big upgrade over the starter ship.

I will say the biggest con of this game is the performance. Bethesda should have done a better job optimising it.

Did the game pass version get the DLSS update yet?
Not sure if a 3050 laptop gpu can handle it in low/medium settings at playable fps?

There is no official DLSS support IIRC.

There are some modders who added DLSS support unofficially, you could try those.