Steam Deck is here. Starting $399 for base 64 GB. Shipping December 2021.
Zen2 4C/8T CPU
RDNA 2 GPU
16 GB RAM
7" 1280x800 60 Hz Display
Zen2 4C/8T CPU
RDNA 2 GPU
16 GB RAM
7" 1280x800 60 Hz Display
Steam Deck announced by Valve
64 gb is too low for games and its very costly imo
Price is ok IMO, provided it performs close to AMD R3 4350G APU in games, like even 60-70% of its performance would be great as well. Not to forget, there are a lot of low requirement PC games which will run on it, surely not latest AAA titles.
But dont you think 64gb storage is too low for atleast AAA games Yeah its good if you play indies.
Its not meant for AAA games to be fair, control, fallen order and doom eternal is just a topping..
Yes 64 GB is too low but you can always expand with a micro SD. Get a 512 GB for peace of mind, im actually interested in this. If it has good enough battery life im considering it.
Yes 64 GB is too low but you can always expand with a micro SD. Get a 512 GB for peace of mind, im actually interested in this. If it has good enough battery life im considering it.
R3 4350G has RDNA 1.0 gpu i think, steam deck has RDNA 2.0 ( the same arch as AMD RX 6xxx series).. I dont think even 5xxxG series processors have RDNA 2. Correct me if im wrong, AMD has been very dodgy with this
No reason to buy something underpowered like Nintendo Switch once this is available. Unless, you want to play their exclusives ofcourse.
Most people already have plenty of games on steam and getting this seems like a no brainer. Especially if they are planning on making all Windows games work like they claim.
If you have dark souls or skyrim on Steam, makes no sense to buy it again to play on Switch.
Only doubt I have is how they will manage anti-cheat. This runs SteamOS 3, which is based on Arch Linux. Steam on Linux uses Proton to run Windows games, but Proton does not support anti-cheat yet. Which means that games like PUBG, Apex, Rainbow Six might not run. But let's see if they have some solution by December.
If you have dark souls or skyrim on Steam, makes no sense to buy it again to play on Switch.
Only doubt I have is how they will manage anti-cheat. This runs SteamOS 3, which is based on Arch Linux. Steam on Linux uses Proton to run Windows games, but Proton does not support anti-cheat yet. Which means that games like PUBG, Apex, Rainbow Six might not run. But let's see if they have some solution by December.
I can see battlefield 3 picture in the video, which did have punk buster. But maybe it was just a promotional thing. Regardless I doubt this is a device meant for multiplayer
Last I checked Punk Buster runs on Wine, I tried it with Battlefield 4 (on Origin) and it runs without any problems. So I think Battlefield 3 should run too. But I don't know whether Battlefield 3 has the new server browser UI or it's still on the old web based UI.
I have doubts about EAC and BattleEye though.
I have doubts about EAC and BattleEye though.
The page says it can run AAA games as well. Is this due to small screen size? It seems difficult for r3 to run all that. Also, is the GPU same as the one available with r3 ?
This should be in technology news. This is like Nintendo switch but 100 times better.
@whitestar_999 @Desmond David please move this to a new thread.
Except that 64GB variant has eMMC storage unlike nvme for higher ones.
GPU is better than R3 for sure. It is running at 720p, must be targetting 30 fps
Perhaps there will be graphical concessions but let's see once more objective reviews come up.
Done.
I don't think this is a huge issue when you have the ability to play your entire steam library on the go.
Yeah i dont mind 720p 30fps for aaa titles, i m sure indies would run at 60. And thats where this will shine.
I think this would specially be great for gamers, new and old who've stacked up some old games in their library (like me) but not looking for the hassle to install and play them sitting in front of their PC. They can do that just on the move, and then play the more recent AAA games on their PC. Games few years old would not be taxing on the hardware either and play smoothly.
No mention about the battery whether it is removable or not
It won't be removable which means it's lifetime is a max 3 years. That's the thing about products like these. Also I doubt it will launch in india
It will have a 5W SoC maybe, so let's see how it performs.
Does it? I think it has some refined Vega version.
I think AMD is yet to release any APU with RDNA architecture.
You are right its vega 7/8. This should be a massive increase in performance. The performance per wattage should be a good indicator how the GPU performance of the newest exynos would be. Because that too is built with a close collab with AMD featuring RDNA2.
Lets see if makes it to the market or not. And this is not the Final Build.
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64 Gigs is too less and if you have to go for something like 512 GB , You might as well get a budget gaming laptop in that range .
I don't see any reason why someone would buy it in that kinda price range when you can get a laptop(which also happens to be portable) .
It makes sense to buy a PSP or a nintendo Console (games normally you can't play on windows ) .... But , why would anyone buy it?
IMO this seems like a waste of money . I might as well buy a XBOX Controller and a budget gaming PC with Big Screen .
I don't see any reason why someone would buy it in that kinda price range when you can get a laptop(which also happens to be portable) .
It makes sense to buy a PSP or a nintendo Console (games normally you can't play on windows ) .... But , why would anyone buy it?
IMO this seems like a waste of money . I might as well buy a XBOX Controller and a budget gaming PC with Big Screen .
Its a personal preference. I would not buy this instead I would stick to Switch or PSP console.
Portability is the major factor for this one.
Portability is the major factor for this one.
Typical Valve.
A laptop is portable, but still not as portable as this. Also all models come with a microSD slot, so you can put a 1 TB card if you can and you are good to go.
Though there are a few things that might result in a bad experience, one being that many of the games on PC might not be optimized for such a small display and as such could result in much smaller UI which could be hard to read. But I think this largely depends on the games and the developers willingness to patch them. In either case I am not expecting many games to be suitable for this.
Edit:
2kliksphilip's video on this
Apparently Gabe has confirmed that the SSDs will be replaceable.
I just now read here in comments that the battery will be fixed. Isn't that a deal breaker for many at that price? Wouldn't the battery capacity reduce sooner since this has a powerful hardware and will be required to charge often before gaming on it?
What wtf ?
That's the one thing, I know it won't be user replacable.. but if after market replace would be possible, it would just extend the longevity so much.
SSD will be replacable btw. Someone from reddit mailed the Gabe.
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Portable? It's massive in size. Just LOOK at the big guy holding in IGN's video. Won't fit in your trouser pockets for sure! xD /s
I am more excited by the fact that it's a full blown PC, where theoretically we can wipe SteamOS to install any other OS like windows!
But surely, I am happy for the impact this shiny object could have on the Linux gaming.
I am more excited by the fact that it's a full blown PC, where theoretically we can wipe SteamOS to install any other OS like windows!
But surely, I am happy for the impact this shiny object could have on the Linux gaming.
Kudos to GabeN for actually replying to these sort of things lol
Don't you think if they allowed this then it will make their product even more attractive to buyers? Compare to having a non-replaceable battery which will could be a main deterrent to buyers since no one wants to buy a new console every 3-4 years. Why this idea is not even on the deck here?
Planned obsoleteness doesnt really apply to Valve because this is a brand new territory and they might not even have a successor to this product, which is why your point makes sense. but I dont know, maybe manufacturing costs is low for embedded battery etc.
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If dota 2 will run smooth it’s a win win for me
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If dota 2 will run smooth it’s a win win for me
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IMO watching a Dota 2 match in the client is much better than watching a stream.
Playing though will be a problem I think since it's basically like playing Dota 2 using a trackpad.
Playing though will be a problem I think since it's basically like playing Dota 2 using a trackpad.
Spec Analysis of the Steam Deck by Digital Foundry
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I think we will just have to wait and see when actual hands-on reviews come. All videos so far seem to be mostly speculation.
You may need new drivers if it's Windows that you want to run. IINM it uses custom AMD silicon, and the IO parts (controller stuff mostly) may not be prepped for Windows. Not to mention power management, where tuned drivers are critical.
Also even though the SSD is replaceable, just how many manufacturers make high capacity units in the M2.2230 size? High density SSD chips are expensive, even if it's QLC.
Highest capacity M2.2230 is 512, so it's better to buy it directly.
Buy the SSD directly or the highest capacity model from Valve?
highest capacity model from valve
Yep the exact issue I have. I have a bunch of indies that I never play. This thing will be pretty costly here in India most likely. I've been thinking about just streaming to my iPad from my PC. A lot of those games get ported to iOS/Android but are priced very high compared to Steam. Switch ports prices are another thing altogether.
Official Valve Steam Deck ad
Easy Anti-Cheat now supports the Steam Deck
BattleEye Anti-cheat confirms Steam Deck support
BattleEye Anti-cheat confirms Steam Deck support
Also in the new FAQs for Steam deck
This is a big step forward for gaming on Linux (even on desktop). Though I personally prefer if it was not an opt-in option and be available universally.
This was confirmed long time ago. Though IMO running Windows on it would be a very bad idea because of the bloat that Windows has.
Yup, considering the hardware, they have certainly optimised steam os for that , windows with bloat like windows defender, updates and telemetry will slow it down.
I would like to interject for a moment,
What you are referring to as Windows, is in fact, Windows/bloat, or as I've recently taken to calling it Windows + bloat. Windows is not an product unto itself, but rather another paid component of a fully functioning M$ system made annoying by the bloat, ads and spyware comprising a full system as defined by Microsoft executives.
Yeah but constantly pausing to explain an obvious thing is too pedantic, I stopped watching and watched the original video. lol
Two points that really stood out for me and I'm sure for many:
1. Its your PC, you have every right to open it up and do what you want.
2. Source for replacement parts, SSDs, Thumbsticks and more in the future.
Taking shots at others and advocating for Right to Repair in a way.
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1. Its your PC, you have every right to open it up and do what you want.
2. Source for replacement parts, SSDs, Thumbsticks and more in the future.
Taking shots at others and advocating for Right to Repair in a way.
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Same lol
I wouldn't call it "Valve has knocked it out of the park" just yet till full in depth review, but so far it's looking great. The cons he states seem subjective and would be based on personal use and taste.
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You can check what percent of your Steam library is compatible with the Steam Deck at this website - CheckMyDeck
Steam Deck OLED
- Better brighter slightly bigger screen, same resolution though
- Higher Refresh rate
- Bigger battery
- 6nm APU vs 7nm APU from the original
- Better Cooling
- WiFi 6
- More storage for basically the same price
Yeah, I saw. Though it's kinda pointless since it's not available in India. I hope Valve would partner with some retailer in India to sell Steam Decks.
IIRC they were having problems with payment system recently. It'll be a shame if they can't capitalize on Nintendo's complete absence, at least officially.
you can ask your friend who comes from USA to bring one for you...
I actually see sales posts regarding Steam Deck on TE or reddit r/IndianGaming relatively frequently. IMO people bought because of hype later realised its not as useful as they thought.
I'm still of the opinion that Google & Apple should take gaming more seriously as Switch is weaker than even a few years old flagship phone. Apple took its first step at least.
I'm still of the opinion that Google & Apple should take gaming more seriously as Switch is weaker than even a few years old flagship phone. Apple took its first step at least.
I see Steam Deck as a secondary gaming device for people who already have a gaming PC or Console at home and enthusiasts. It's for gaming when traveling.
Switch sells due to it's first party games. Switch is 6 years old. Strong rumors indicate a Switch successor next year. It will probably sell well too unless they pull a Wii U. Also I think gamers prefer a dedicated gaming device over a phone(my opinion).
Agreed on both points.
My point is just that phones are a more convenient secondary gaming device than Steam deck or Switch. Phones just lack top quality games. You will always carry your phone anywhere you go. Time will tell what happens.
If I had to game while travelling, I'll just use retroarch on my phone. For me, steam deck or even ROG ally are expensive accessories and I'd rather save money for next laptop/desktop.
How about Gamepass ultimate with 5G, it works butter smooth. Just get a kishi, and you are done.
In terms of battery life this would be a lot better than any of the steam deck and stuff.
Maybe because both of those handhelds are kinda big. I recently got a 2DS XL and it's as portable as my phone and has a game library that blows any phone out of the water. I just carry it with me these days. Really useful for short or semi long gaming sessions without draining the phone battery which can be a big concern when you are traveling.
5G drains battery quite a bit lol. And Xcloud isn't even available officially in India AFAIK. I don't think the VPN solution is as reliable as having a local system. Cloud gaming isn't there yet.
goku is in canada atm, so it shouldnt be an issue for him.
Not available in India officially
I carry a power bank always. Even if I am just watching videos, phone battery is not sufficient for more than a 2hr flight IMO (considering you need to reach airport 2hr early & time from airport to home).
Why android is not pushing gaming compared to ios?
Fragmentation in OS, lots of hardware configs, people not willing to pay $60 for games (hence all the free to play successes like CoD, PUBG/BGMI & Genshin)
Is anybody using it here to emulate switch and retro consoles? I tried switch oled at best buy yesterday and immediately got hooked to the mario demo they had on it.
how much is it on best buy?
CAD 449 which I feel is too expensive since there's no easy way to jailbreak it.
Why do you need to jailbreak the Steam Deck? It runs Linux.
I meant switch oled. Deck is like 70% more expensive.
Oh my bad.
Though, accessing the root account and filesystem in the Steam Deck is simply a matter or running a single command.
Though, accessing the root account and filesystem in the Steam Deck is simply a matter or running a single command.