Stock Android in the lowest budget

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Hi Guys,

1. Budget? As low as possible, 7-10k
2. Display type and size? Best as per the budget
3. Dual sim? Dual 4g
4. Preferred choice of brand? No- Motorola, oppo, vivo etc.
5. What camera option you want (flash, front facing camera)? It should click good photos as per the budget
6. Preferred operating system? (Android, iOS, Windows Phone, etc). Stock/Android One
7. Preferred connectivity options (3G, 4G ready). Please delete this question from the questionnaire or update it @whitestar_999
8. Primary use of handset (multimedia, camera, internet, gaming etc)? Gaming maybe angry birds type. Rest multipurpose like browsing, YT etc.
9. Any specific mobile phones in consideration? Samsung M1, M2
10. Any other info that you want to share- Budget is tight. Need a phone with no notch but only Asus Zenfone Max Pro 1 is in my mind. Is it advisable to buy that one now? Pie will be its last update. If no, if all options are closed then I am thinking about the Samsung M1 or the M2, notch it there and it sucks

Asus Zenfone Max M2

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Flash said:
Asus Zenfone Max M2

Notch is too big. I selected Samsung M1 & M2 because of the less, teardrop notch.

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@whitestar_999
@Minion

billubakra said:
Notch is too big. I selected Samsung M1 & M2 because of the less, teardrop notch.

Nokia 5.1 Plus (Stock Anrdroid Pie) but MediaTek Helio P60 @ 9.9k

Samsung M20 FHD @ 12k is best for you.
Samsung M10 is not FHD rather HD+ Display with 3400mah battery
where as Nokia 5.1 Plus is 3000mah battery with HD+ display.

Decide which is best for you.

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Zenfone max pro m1 6gb(3gb ram version has avg camera,keep that in mind) is a good option if willing to compromise on OS update(majority is still running android M & N currently).

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bssunilreddy said:
Nokia 5.1 Plus (Stock Anrdroid Pie) but MediaTek Helio P60 @ 9.9k

Samsung M20 FHD @ 12k is best for you.
Samsung M10 is not FHD rather HD+ Display with 3400mah battery
where as Nokia 5.1 Plus is 3000mah battery with HD+ display.

Decide which is best for you.

Budget is strictly limited to max 10k, 500-1000 more will be shelled on the cover and screen guard as the online selling phones have expensive accessories. Except the screen and the processor, M10 or 5.1?

whitestar_999 said:
Zenfone max pro m1 6gb(3gb ram version has avg camera,keep that in mind) is a good option if willing to compromise on OS update(majority is still running android M & N currently).

Majority are running Android N. The camera in both versions is not acceptable, I am only thinking about it due to the notchless screen.
M10 or 5.1 as mentioned above? Which one do you think will be better?

Xiaomi phones are on good discounts but they have bad os+that notch.

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Nokia 5.1 plus looks better then.
Nokia 5.1 Plus Review
Samsung Galaxy M10 Review

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Btw max pro m1(6gb ram version) got better camera score by ndtv gadgets than all other phones mentioned here.
Asus ZenFone Max Pro M1 Review

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whitestar_999 said:
Btw max pro m1(6gb ram version) got better camera score by ndtv gadgets than all other phones mentioned here.
Asus ZenFone Max Pro M1 Review

That website gives funny reviews sometimes, I don't trust them.
For camera reviews nothing beats dxomark btw.

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billubakra said:
Notch is too big. I selected Samsung M1 & M2 because of the less, teardrop notch.

Samsung M10 is not worth 10k it doesn't have finger print scanner,display is 720p TFT display,this doesn't have stock android as per your requirement,Samsung may never provide update.
With all your requirements only one phone comes into mind Moto X4 3GB but I know how much you hate moto and pie would be its last update but on positive note it has IP68 rating,Excellent cameras,no notch,premium build(all phone in this range have plastic build) and have stock android.
Moto X4 3GB
Moto X4 (Super Black, 32 GB) Online at Best Price On Flipkart.com

I know moto has gone down in terms of software updates but within your budget its the best you can get

During BBD sale I bought a Moto Z2 play for my mom for 9k and she is very happy with it.

billubakra said:
Budget is strictly limited to max 10k, 500-1000 more will be shelled on the cover and screen guard as the online selling phones have expensive accessories. Except the screen and the processor, M10 or 5.1?

Majority are running Android N. The camera in both versions is not acceptable, I am only thinking about it due to the notchless screen.
M10 or 5.1 as mentioned above? Which one do you think will be better?

Xiaomi phones are on good discounts but they have bad os+that notch.

Timely updates means 5.1
Notchless display means m10 but sadly on updates front, I think nil other than their high end models. Even their high end models are now getting updated to Pie, I mean 1 year or 2 years old models.
But I prefer M20 when you are going with Samsung.
Other than this no issues.

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Minion said:
Samsung M10 is not worth 10k it doesn't have finger print scanner,display is 720p TFT display,this doesn't have stock android as per your requirement,Samsung may never provide update.
With all your requirements only one phone comes into mind Moto X4 3GB but I know how much you hate moto and pie would be its last update but on positive note it has IP68 rating,Excellent cameras,no notch,premium build(all phone in this range have plastic build) and have stock android.
Moto X4 3GB
Moto X4 (Super Black, 32 GB) Online at Best Price On Flipkart.com

I know moto has gone down in terms of software updates but within your budget its the best you can get

During BBD sale I bought a Moto Z2 play for my mom for 9k and she is very happy with it.

I would stick with some button phone rather than moto. The cureent moto brand is ruining the good old moto's image. Do you know why they are updating G4/G4+ to pie? Because of backlash from users. They will brand your 6 months old device as outdated just like op. Op do provide updates but not on priority basis after 6 months.
About m10 I am more than happy with Samsung One ui and they will update it to atleast Android Q but you are right, rest of the specs suck.
Would you suggest Asus m2, the lowest end model, over M10/20?
The Nokia one is cool but it does not have service centers everywhere.

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bssunilreddy said:
Timely updates means 5.1
Notchless display means m10 but sadly on updates front, I think nil other than their high end models. Even their high end models are now getting updated to Pie, I mean 1 year or 2 years old models.
But I prefer M20 when you are going with Samsung.
Other than this no issues.

It's 5.1 vs Zenfone M2 now. The notch is too big in M2 and it's the biggest con.

Asus Max Pro M1 is good for under 10k even now. Asus Max M2 (not Pro) seems a bit inferior due to lower res screen & chipset but might have a better selfie camera. M1's selfie cam was just average IMO but my expectations might be a bit high, my cousin was happy with it though.

Another option is Nokia 5.1 plus, which has best chipset for the price but a 720p display. Most users should be fine. 1080p is perfect for smartphones, 1440p is overkill (not needed IMO).

I think Pie as the only update for a 10k phone is great. Even Samsung M10/M20 might not get Q considering they didn't even launch with Pie. Expecting more than 1 update for a sub 15k phone is too much. Asus did initially say that M1 might get updated to Q, but wordings were vague. Considering no Pie update till now, I'd say no Q is realistic.

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anupam_pb said:
Asus Max Pro M1 is good for under 10k even now. Asus Max M2 (not Pro) seems a bit inferior due to lower res screen & chipset but might have a better selfie camera. M1's selfie cam was just average IMO but my expectations might be a bit high, my cousin was happy with it though.

Another option is Nokia 5.1 plus, which has best chipset for the price but a 720p display. Most users should be fine. 1080p is perfect for smartphones, 1440p is overkill (not needed IMO).

I think Pie as the only update for a 10k phone is great. Even Samsung M10/M20 might not get Q considering they didn't even launch with Pie. Expecting more than 1 update for a sub 15k phone is too much. Asus did initially say that M1 might get updated to Q, but wordings were vague. Considering no Pie update till now, I'd say no Q is realistic.

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Your link is not opening. I was talking about max pro 2. If it didn't had that notch then I would have gone for for it.
Compare Samsung Galaxy M20 vs. Nokia 5.1 - GSMArena.com
Compare Samsung Galaxy M20 vs. Nokia 5.1 Plus (Nokia X5) - GSMArena.com
Except the os and screen type m2 is beating 5.1 and the plus too. Is the tft screen that bad? How are the processors in both? And these are both dual 4g right.

billubakra said:
Your link is not opening. I was talking about max pro 2. If it didn't had that notch then I would have gone for for it.
Compare Samsung Galaxy M20 vs. Nokia 5.1 - GSMArena.com
Compare Samsung Galaxy M20 vs. Nokia 5.1 Plus (Nokia X5) - GSMArena.com
Except the os and screen type m2 is beating 5.1 and the plus too. Is the tft screen that bad? How are the processors in both? And these are both dual 4g right.

M20 has a good TFT screen according to reviews, so not a deal breaker. Max Pro M2 is just the best option at that price, just get it. Notch is not as large as Poco or 5.1 plus or iPhones, so its ok I guess. Not sure if it has hide notch functionality, if it does, better.

M20 vs Pro M2, I'd say M2 has a better camera, chipset & stock OS. Samsung M20 is definitely a good option unlike earlier J series. Geekyranjit said something about M20 having some minor lags, so I'm not sure if its just a software optimization thing or the OS is still heavy for a mid-range chipset (it is between S625 & S636, so S660 is a lot superior).

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anupam_pb said:
M20 has a good TFT screen according to reviews, so not a deal breaker. Max Pro M2 is just the best option at that price, just get it. Notch is not as large as Poco or 5.1 plus or iPhones, so its ok I guess. Not sure if it has hide notch functionality, if it does, better.

M20 vs Pro M2, I'd say M2 has a better camera, chipset & stock OS. Samsung M20 is definitely a good option unlike earlier J series. Geekyranjit said something about M20 having some minor lags, so I'm not sure if its just a software optimization thing or the OS is still heavy for a mid-range chipset (it is between S625 & S636, so S660 is a lot superior).

Thanks Brother. Both these phones have dual 4g right?

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billubakra said:
About m10 I am more than happy with Samsung One ui and they will update it to atleast Android Q but you are right, rest of the specs suck.
Would you suggest Asus m2, the lowest end model, over M10/20?

Samsung will give android pie on august 2019 for M10 and it may not get Android Q.

Yes,Asus M2 is lot better than M10/M20 but backside is made up plastic

billubakra said:
Thanks Brother. Both these phones have dual 4g right?

Max Pro M2 should, not sure about M20, check its reviews (geekyranjit or iGyann would have picked it up if it didn't)

Minion said:
Samsung will give android pie on august 2019 for M10 and it may not get Android Q.

Yes,Asus M2 is lot better than M10/M20 but backside is made up plastic

I'd prefer plastic over glass, at least I can carry it without a case. I rarely drop my phone but still, I use a case because the back is glass. Most Indians use a case, so really it doesn't matter what the back is (metal would be great). Companies found a good spot to cut some cost IMO (Poco has plastic back as well & many reviewers did appreciate the cost cutting approach).

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Hi Guys,
Finalized M10 because of the tighter budget and mainly because the person for whom it is for won't use it for gaming. So, no good camera, ota's needed just good old browsing, yt, social media apps. Finalized the 16gb, 2gb version. Any idea when is the next sale?
P.S. I wasn't able to find anything about the dual 4g though.

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I can tell you that 16gb just doesn't cut it nowadays,same is the case with 2gb ram.One needs to do some serious space cleaning & juggling between apps.Out of that 16gb only expect ~5gb of "usable space".

billubakra said:
Hi Guys,
Finalized M10 because of the tighter budget and mainly because the person for whom it is for won't use it for gaming. So, no good camera, ota's needed just good old browsing, yt, social media apps. Finalized the 16gb, 2gb version. Any idea when is the next sale?
P.S. I wasn't able to find anything about the dual 4g though.

Feb 19, but 2GB RAM is definitely not enough for Samsung Experience UI. I'd say maybe 3GB would work well, still 4GB is a safe bet. Dedicated SD card slot will help with storage for sure. The Amazon listing states Dual VoLTE, so no issues.

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billubakra said:
Hi Guys,
Finalized M10 because of the tighter budget and mainly because the person for whom it is for won't use it for gaming. So, no good camera, ota's needed just good old browsing, yt, social media apps. Finalized the 16gb, 2gb version. Any idea when is the next sale?
P.S. I wasn't able to find anything about the dual 4g though.

2GB RAM is not enough get atleast 3 GB

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anupam_pb said:
Dedicated SD card slot will help with storage for sure.

I wouldn't be so sure.Just keeping whatsapp media itself is a challenge(I don't remove whatsapp media to card as I prefer keeping them in their original context of messages) not to mention increasing size of many apps.

whitestar_999 said:
I wouldn't be so sure.Just keeping whatsapp media itself is a challenge(I don't remove whatsapp media to card as I prefer keeping them in their original context of messages) not to mention increasing size of many apps.

My old phone had 16GB internal & I was fine with it by keeping just apps in internal. Free space was ~11GB. This was about 1.5 years ago, with increasing app sizes it will require some app management for sure. I used to keep whatsapp as never download media & I still have the habit of deleting 95% of pics/videos after seeing it.

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^^Must be a stock android/similar rom.A typical zenUI M rom(non-rooted) takes around 9-10gb of space out of 16gb internal space leaving only ~5gb for everything else.As for apps,just one paytm app currently takes ~240mb.

whitestar_999 said:
^^Must be a stock android/similar rom.A typical zenUI M rom(non-rooted) takes around 9-10gb of space out of 16gb internal space leaving only ~5gb for everything else.As for apps,just one paytm app currently takes ~240mb.

Yeah, it was Sony

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@whitestar_999 @anupam_pb @Minion
Thanks brothers. The person is switching from a button phone. Has no knowledge besides calling/texting/YT and WA. Won't be clicking much photos, updates won't matter to him. He was telling me to find a phone till 5k but I wasn't able to find any good one.

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Any idea about the next sale? Missed the last one.