Strictly Office RIG !!

Guys, my father is starting a play-school, so need to some buy some PCs (4-5). So i need a strictly "office" RIG.

1. What is the purpose of the computer? (Note: If you are planning to say multimedia, you will have to be more specific as all types of systems are capable of doing that)
A: Office purpose.

2. Are you open to alternate ideas/products giving similar better performance but offering more VFM/ sellers? If not- why?
A: Of course

3. What is your MAX budget?
A: 15k (budget should be as low as possible, may be 13 or 14!)

4. Planning to overclock?
A: no

5. Which OS are you planning to use?
A:XP (not 7 becoz i dont expect the office guys to be cool with 7)

6. How much hard drive space is needed?
A: min

7. What resolution will the screen run at & whats the size of the screen you want? If you already want have one and want to use it, mention its resolution and size.
A: 17/19 (suggestion)

8. How would you rate your hardware knowledge from the count of 1-10? (1 being the lowest, 5 being you are somewhat in sync with the current performers and 10 being the highest)
A: 7

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
A:assembler

10. When are you planning to buy the system?
A: till dec (max, may be in early dec)

11. Are you one of the types looking out for "future proof" configurations?
A:not actually, but the system should run fine for say 5 yrs)

12. Are there going to be any components that you don't want to include in this new rig? If yes, do mention.
A:no speakers, i guess a dedicated PSU will also be not needed, nor a branded cabinet.

13. Which city do you live in and are you open to buying from shops from other city/states?
A:gaya/patna, online also. but from my experience online always costs you more.

14. Mention any other points if deemed necessary
A: I'm thinking on atom based RIG, what do you guys say? The system should consume as less power as it can, and silent

TIY

A

Component Make Price Processor AMD Athlon II x2 250 2700
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA78LMT-S2 2500
RAM G-skill F3-10600CL9S-2GBNT 700
HDD WDC Green 500GB 1900
DVD Writer LG 22X SATA DVD 900
Case + PSU Zebronics Bijli (with psu) 1500
Monitor Acer H163WA 3800
Keyboard & Mouse Logitech MK100 500
UPS Microtek 600VA 1200
Total 15700

This is more future proof than the atom based rig you wanted.

R

Intel Dual Core E6600 3.06Ghz 2MB @2.95k
Asus G41 P5G41T-M LX3 @2.4k
Corsair 2GB DDR3 1333Mhz (9-9-9-24) @0.9k
Asus 22X DVD @1.1k
Benq 18.5" G925HD LCD Monitor @4.6k
Microsoft Wired Combo Keyboard+Mouse @0.65k
iBall Cabinet + SMPS @1.2k
WD 500GB 7200 @1.8k

Thnx.

What about going for 1 external dvd writer instead of buying 1 internal for each?
I'm confused b/w intel and AMD, coz although benchies show amd ahead in entry level procy's, personally i have found Intel to be good in real word tests.

^^ For office use it doesn't matter. What more important is expansion capability and power consumption. Avoid atom.

@op why not get 2 dual cores & 2 thin clients

Thin clients won't get resell value, plus if ever i feel to upgrade systems, they won't allow na! Moreover i feel thin clients wont be able to fulfill all the needs. I mean no HDD :-o

So i have decided this-

Component Make Price
Processor AMD Athlon II x2 250 2700
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA78LMT-S2 2500
RAM G-skill F3-10600CL9S-2GBNT 700
HDD WDC Green 500GB 1900
DVD WRITER No
Case + PSU iBall/Zebronics (with psu) 1000
Monitor Benq 18.5" G925HD LCD 4600
Keyboard & Mouse Logitech MK100 500
UPS Microtek 600VA 1200

Total 15100

Any more suggestions/comments techies ?

A

Do you absolutely need an 18.5 monitor for office use? The Acer H163WA which I suggested is 15.6 inch and enough for office purpose unless you want to game on it.

Actually, i m thinking, in .8 k diff i will get a more usable monitor, plus if ever i needed to sell it, it will have more "resell value", isn't it? (day by day, std size is increasing)

Also, if i had to compromise with the value, i could have taken the local brand monitors at a very low price. So, cost cutting with quality + future perspective is kept in mind while selecting.

Do you need a UPS for each system ? If you have 4-5 PC's you can get a bigger common UPS for all of them right ?

^^Ya, actually I'm also thinking for it. but since the pcs are going to be at diff places (diff rooms), so connection would be a problem, isnt it ?

since the price difference is minimal going for 18.5 monitor makes sense also helps in working with excel workbooks as far as ups i think better off get a 800-1000va home ups cum inverter will give u decent backup times

^^Can u suggest a model and provide a link for it?

Luminous

Thnx, what about pure sine wave UPS' ? Of course they will be costly, any idea about the cost diff? And what diff is b/w these UPS' and inverter?

sorry buddy no idea about pure sine wave i think they r equivalent to online ups hence will be costly these r inverter + ups i.e u can run them in ups or inverter mode however runnning in ups mode reduces the backup time

Then why not better buy a new inverter ? Whats exactly use of a "UPS" mode?

R

dashing.sujay said:
Thnx.

What about going for 1 external dvd writer instead of buying 1 internal for each?
I'm confused b/w intel and AMD, coz although benchies show amd ahead in entry level procy's, personally i have found Intel to be good in real word tests.

Yes, external DVD sounds right. You can get the Buffalo one @1.6k from Letsbuy.com

Sorry for the bump guys, but the project was delayed so the systems need to be bought in a week or so from now. Can you guys update the config as per today with prices? I'm sure it would cost at least 2k more from then. And what about x2, I have heard its not available any more?

I don't think you can get a 500gb green at that price now. They are far expensive now around 4k due to thailand floods. You need to reconsider the harddisk options.

Check the following:

Things are a lot different now considering high dollar rates and increased hdd prices.

removing DVD writer & going for a 160Gb HDD should lower prices by 2k i guess.

Thnx for replying guys. Yeah, I'm acknowledged about rate increment thats why considering 250GB. 160GB will save how much bucks? I've already decided that I won't buy DVD write for each, instead an external DVD writer.

But there's one problem guys. There's no AMD available in my city :shock:

. They're giving intel based systems, some (dual core 3.0 +G41) :facepalm:

. They don't know the proccy model :duh2:

IDK which RAM they're giving for 1200 ! (2GB) :shock:

When I asked brand, he told "dekhna padega, but jyada frequency ka hai. Sasta wala match nhi karega" :lol:

I'm out of station so can't help it. When i told your rates are exorbitantly high, the assembler said to buy and send him components, he will assemble @ 1500 ! Isn't it too much? I'm calculating which would be cheaper.

Also suggest Intel based alternative.

why not buy from smc. they deliver products in 3-4days only (maybe for your location it'll be 48hrs)? you can talk to smc guys if they can assemble & send the systems. assembling cost around Rs.350. if its one system, assembling is easy. will take an hour at max.

^^Its 2 systems. OK I'm mailing them.

Have a look at following config-

CPU- E5700 - 3450 (smc) Is this including VAT & all ?

Mobo- MSI G41 P26- 2500 (FK)

RAM- 2GB Corsair (check whether its ok)

Cab+PSU= Can't find any on smc.

^ is that config a joke or what?

it's 2012.

^I know its incomplete, but rest of the things are already decided

dashing.sujay said:
^I know its incomplete, but rest of the things are already decided

Missing the point. Who the hell will go for a damned E5700 in 2012?

This config is settled because x2 (AMD) isn't available locally. And better intel counterparts are breaching the budget. Solution? (Of course I'm not wasting money)

dashing.sujay said:
And better intel counterparts are breaching the budget.

I can't say anything except lolwtf.

Athlon II X2 250 is much faster than E5700.

Equivalent to Athlon II X2 250 is Core 2 Duo E7400. Google and figure out the prices.

Inquire SMCInternational.in about the availability. There's TheITWares and PrimeABGB too.

ico said:
I can't say anything except lolwtf.

Athlon II X2 250 is much faster than E5700.

Equivalent to Athlon II X2 250 is Core 2 Duo E7400. Google and figure out the prices.

Inquire SMCInternational.in about the availability. There's TheITWares and PrimeABGB too.

You're saying like I don't know! The matter is that may be my dad won't agree shopping online. E7400 over E5700 again add at least 2k. Any need of that? Point is I've to build the rig keeping in mind min cost with acceptable performance.

Plus I have already mailed SMC, wating for their reply.

dashing.sujay said:
You're saying like I don't know! The matter is that may be my dad won't agree shopping online.

lol mate, you only behaved as if you don't know.

In your post #1, you've mentioned you are open to online. In your post #24 you mention the motherboard from Flipkart.

Obviously it looks to me or a neutral you are considering online buying options.

^I'm sorry for that. But I'm planning on convincing dad. And hopefully I'll be.

E

I just purchased 5 Lenovo Desktops for my office with 3 years onsite warranty.

It is a "Thinkcenter Edge" series from Lenovo.

Configuration:
Tower Form Factor - Intel H61 Chipset, Intel DUAL CORE G 630 Processor 65W, 2GB PC3-10600 1333 MHz DDR3 UDIMM, 500GB 7200RPM SATA HDD, No Optical, Intel HD Graphics 2000 (Built in CPU), Intel Gigabit Ethernet, Classic Professional Keyboard, Optical Mouse, DOS, 333 Warranty

The cost is Rs.16500 per system (Without monitor and optical drive).

Not sure how helpful this is, but just wanted to let you know...

^^ yup, Pentium G630 is good.

Sujay can go for that branded PC if he likes.

Even i recommend dashing.sujay to go with the above lennovo desktops considering the 3 years onsite warranty he would be getting. Lennovo will provide good support and will definitely save the office staff from all the rma hassles.

In case of trouble, lennovo can directly be contacted and they'll give service. So not at all a bad option for office systems.

Besides that, the config looks pretty good to me and afaik, Pentium G 630 is faster than athlon x2 250 taking its sandybridge architecture into account. So the above system is pretty powerful as well.

Here's a small comparison between athlon x2 255 vs pentium G 620
G630 will be a bit faster. So the config is good to go.

but add monitor, ups (forget speaker) and total will be around 22k.

Thnx ece2k and all for the suggestion. I'll talk to my dad about it.