Suggest a Best mobile phone below 15k to buy in upcoming big billion sale?

I decided to buy a mobile phone for me. I decided to use the big billion offer in flipkart

1. Budget?
15k

2. Display type and size?
Above 5.5"

3. Dual sim?
Yes

4. Preferred choice of brand?
Any with good after sales service

5. What camera option you want (flash, front facing camera)?
Good camera with excellent picture quality and low light quality. front camera quality not much needed

6. Preferred operating system? (Android, iOS, Windows Phone, etc).
Android

7. Preferred connectivity options (3G, 4G ready).
4G volte

8. Primary use of handset (multimedia, camera, internet, gaming etc)?
Internet, photography, app development

9. Any specific mobile phones in consideration?
Asus Zenphone Max Pro m1 6gb available at 13k

10. Any other info that you want to share
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My requirements are :

1.Good rear camera(front camera quality not much needed)
2.Good processor
3.atleast 4000mah battery with quick charge

Suggest one

Since I was planning to upgrade my dad's Lenovo K3 Note in this big billion sale I was thinking to get the Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1. The 4 GB + 64 GB version would cost less than 10k after discounts. This seems to be a great deal. With the only issue of the absence of OIS, I think it's asking too much in sub 10k phone.
The only phone with decent camera than Zenfone in this budget is Redmi Pro which I don't want to get.

You might want to see this video for recommendations:

As per above list you can go for:
Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 (6/64) - ₹12,999 (With the HDFC Card offer, probably the cheapest 6GB RAM Smartphone)
Realme 2 Pro - ₹13,990
Nokia 6.1 Plus - ₹14,999 (Latest from Nokia with Snapdragon 636)
Motorola One Power - ₹15,999

Above prices are without the HDFC 10% discount.
Also in the above list Nokia 6.1 and Realme 2 Pro don't have good battery.

How is max pro m1 6 gb camera vs RN5 pro ?

Here RN5 pro smokes the zenfone max pro, even without Gcam

Vyom said:
Since I was planning to upgrade my dad's Lenovo K3 Note in this big billion sale I was thinking to get the Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1. The 4 GB + 64 GB version would cost less than 10k after discounts. This seems to be a great deal. With the only issue of the absence of OIS, I think it's asking too much in sub 10k phone.
The only phone with decent camera than Zenfone in this budget is Redmi Pro which I don't want to get.

You might want to see this video for recommendations:

As per above list you can go for:
Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 (6/64) - ₹12,999 (With the HDFC Card offer, probably the cheapest 6GB RAM Smartphone)
Realme 2 Pro - ₹13,990
Nokia 6.1 Plus - ₹14,999 (Latest from Nokia with Snapdragon 636)
Motorola One Power - ₹15,999

Above prices are without the HDFC 10% discount.
Also in the above list Nokia 6.1 and Realme 2 Pro don't have good battery.

What about Motorola One power? Is it better than redmi note 5 pro and zenfone?

RageshAntony said:
What about Motorola One power? Is it better than redmi note 5 pro and zenfone?

I'd pick zenfone and RN5 Pro over Moto One power. Don't trust moto with updates even if it is running on android one.

Realme 2 Pro has 3500 mah battery which would be decent with SD660 I believe. (No fast charging though)
Isn't it so ?

ezio16 said:
Realme 2 Pro has 3500 mah battery which would be decent with SD660 I believe. (No fast charging though)
Isn't it so ?

How is the after sales service? Since Realme split from Oppo?

From the last I heard, all realme phones will be serviced by oppo service centres.

Which of these phones supports quick charging?

RageshAntony said:
How is the after sales service? Since Realme split from Oppo?

Why are you even considering realme?

RageshAntony said:
Which of these phones supports quick charging?

Zenfone max pro m1 only supports it I believe. But it takes a while for its 5000 mah battery.

Nokia 6.1 plus supports quick charging, but no quick charger is included in box i hope.

RN5Pro supports Quickcharge 2.0, which may not be as good as others but not as bad as no quick charge

Nerevarine said:
RN5Pro supports Quickcharge 2.0, which may not be as good as others but not as bad as no quick charge

Zenfone only fast charging not quick charge

I'd suggest that you either pick Asus Zenfone Max 6GB or Moto One Power.

Asus is cheaper, notch-less & lighter(180g vs 205g) but has micro USB port (vs Type C) & no fast charging (bundled charger is 10W vs 15W of Moto). Considering the bad reputation of Moto regarding updates recently, don't expect the Android One device to be as quick as Nokia's android one devices in terms of updates, so I would say its not an advantage for Moto.

Although Redmi Note 5 Pro might still be the best camera phone under 15k, but its recent move to introduce ads in UI is enough for me to look elsewhere.

Don't even consider Realme Pro 2 unless gaming is your highest priority & other things don't matter, especially the UI (its unoptimized & will lag with age).

anupam_pb said:
I'd suggest that you either pick Asus Zenfone Max 6GB or Moto One Power.

Asus is cheaper, notch-less & lighter(180g vs 205g) but has micro USB port (vs Type C) & no fast charging (bundled charger is 10W vs 15W of Moto). Considering the bad reputation of Moto regarding updates recently, don't expect the Android One device to be as quick as Nokia's android one devices in terms of updates, so I would say its not an advantage for Moto.

Although Redmi Note 5 Pro might still be the best camera phone under 15k, but its recent move to introduce ads in UI is enough for me to look elsewhere.

Don't even consider Realme Pro 2 unless gaming is your highest priority & other things don't matter, especially the UI (its unoptimized & will lag with age).

Excellent suggestion. Thanks for long reply

Apart from ads in redmi note 5 pro, its gonna be available for 12999 in big billion day sale

anupam_pb said:
Don't even consider Realme Pro 2 unless gaming is your highest priority & other things don't matter, especially the UI (its unoptimized & will lag with age).

Hi bro,
I was hoping that Realme 2 Pro was worthy and nice option because of the specs and it's price. Are you asking to avoid it only because of UI, or is there any other problems with that device?
I'm just not aware. Hope to hear your thoughts.

ezio16 said:
Hi bro,
I was hoping that Realme 2 Pro was worthy and nice option because of the specs and it's price. Are you asking to avoid it only because of UI, or is there any other problems with that device?
I'm just not aware. Hope to hear your thoughts.

I recently received an Honor 10 and despite EMUI being optimized and whatnot, I couldn't use it. It is resting in the box.
ColorOS is much worse. Not only will Oppo shuffle settings, they disable some too like Battery Stats.

SaiyanGoku said:
I recently received an Honor 10 and despite EMUI being optimized and whatnot, I couldn't use it. It is resting in the box.
ColorOS is much worse. Not only will Oppo shuffle settings, they disable some too like Battery Stats.

okay thanks bro. Then, shouldn't go for Oppo and Vivo unless they come with stock which is not likely to happen.
But i was using Vivo V5 plus before my Poco F1 and didn't feel lags much. Though there were times I struggled to find some settings, it was okay to use. And my primary usage with Vivo was camera then.

Any offers in Amazon??

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10% discount + 10% cashback if you are prime member and if you buy any product above 6000 only for today. But the problem is they don't have good phones under 15K.

As always, I created a spreadsheet for the best budget phones to buy this sale. And I am going with Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1, 4/64 GB model. Yes it's camera doesn't have OIS, but EIS is promised to arrive. Also ASUS have promised atleast 2 more Android major updates. Plus the phone have 5000 freaking Mhz battery. Would be good for my dad's usage. Finally, it have dedicated slots for 2 SIM and 1 MicroSD card. I won't need to use a MicroSD card since internal memory of 64 GB is apt, but still it's good to have the choice.

My Spreadsheet:

Disclaimer: There maybe some error in some data in the above sheet. Since I made with my cousin last night and didn't really focus on that much accuracy. Idea was just to jot down main points to convince ourselves that Zenfone was the only good choice.
So reader's please check data themselves in case they want to buy a certain phone.

Vyom said:
As always, I created a spreadsheet for the best budget phones to buy this sale. And I am going with Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1, 4/64 GB model. Yes it's camera doesn't have OIS, but EIS is promised to arrive. Also ASUS have promised atleast 2 more Android major updates. Plus the phone have 5000 freaking Mhz battery. Would be good for my dad's usage. Finally, it have dedicated slots for 2 SIM and 1 MicroSD card. I won't need to use a MicroSD card since internal memory of 64 GB is apt, but still it's good to have the choice.

My Spreadsheet:
View attachment 17707

Disclaimer: There maybe some error in some data in the above sheet. Since I made with my cousin last night and didn't really focus on that much accuracy. Idea was just to jot down main points to convince ourselves that Zenfone was the only good choice.
So reader's please check data themselves in case they want to buy a certain phone.

Good sheet

What about mi A2 ?

RageshAntony said:
What about mi A2 ?

Overpriced, lacks 3.5 mm jack and has low battery. Xiaomi getting greedy by success of Mi A1.

So finally zenfone is best bet . Is it?

R

I also have confusion between Zenfone Max Pro M1 6gb vs Redmi Note 5 pro. Both are at same price. Some youtubers say Redmi Note 5 pro has better camera and Max Pro M1 still have some bugs. But Max Pro M1 has 6gb Ram, Stock Android and separate micro SD Card.

RTKGS said:
I also have confusion between Zenfone Max Pro M1 6gb vs Redmi Note 5 pro. Both are at same price. Some youtubers say Redmi Note 5 pro has better camera and Max Pro M1 still have some bugs. But Max Pro M1 has 6gb Ram, Stock Android and separate micro SD Card.

Same here

R

After watching several unbiased reviews, I have concluded Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 is best value for money phone in 11,700/- after discount. Going to buy it.

But is 6 GB variant REALLY worth the extra Rs 1700? Isn't 4 GB RAM ENOUGH for a snapdragon 636 chipset?
I have decided to save some money and get the 4 GB variant instead.

Vyom said:
But is 6 GB variant REALLY worth the extra Rs 1700? Isn't 4 GB RAM ENOUGH for a snapdragon 636 chipset?
I have decided to save some money and get the 4 GB variant instead.

6 GB variant has better camera than the other 2.

RTKGS said:
I also have confusion between Zenfone Max Pro M1 6gb vs Redmi Note 5 pro. Both are at same price. Some youtubers say Redmi Note 5 pro has better camera and Max Pro M1 still have some bugs. But Max Pro M1 has 6gb Ram, Stock Android and separate micro SD Card.

The difference between cameras of 6GB Zenfone & RN5 Pro isn't big but RN5P is better for sure. I didn't observe any major bugs or anything when I used 3GB model about 3 months ago. As I said, Xiaomi pushing ads in UI is enough for me to look elsewhere. I don't like stock android because it lacks features which custom UIs provide, but at 15k I'd personally opt for a phone with stock android than use a phone with ads in UI.

If you are geeky enough, you can root RN5P to stop ads, but most people won't risk rooting.

Vyom said:
But is 6 GB variant REALLY worth the extra Rs 1700? Isn't 4 GB RAM ENOUGH for a snapdragon 636 chipset?
I have decided to save some money and get the 4 GB variant instead.

The 6GB variant has better front & rear cameras, so it is worth it for that. As far as RAM is concerned, I found 3GB enough for zenfone (my cousin has 3GB model).

I will say 6GB is kind of overkill & 8GB RAM is a waste of money on phones.

WTH. 6 GB also differs in camera quality? How exactly? Does it have OIS or EIS? Or more MEGA PIXELS? If it's mega pixels it's not really an upgrade.

Vyom said:
WTH. 6 GB also differs in camera quality? How exactly? Does it have OIS or EIS? Or more MEGA PIXELS? If it's mega pixels it's not really an upgrade.

Nope, it has better sensors. EIS would be in all variants after pie update AFAIK but 6GB one would get it first.

SaiyanGoku said:
Nope, it has better sensors. EIS would be in all variants after pie update AFAIK but 6GB one would get it first.

Do you have ready reference comparison pics to share? I am in office can't google here.

Vyom said:
Do you have ready reference comparison pics to share? I am in office can't google here.

I don't have them, please check xda, gsmarena or any other reputed reviewer's channel.

This is really unfair. Same model have different sensors as per the RAM increase. General public would have no idea!
The lower RAM model of Zenfone Max Pro M1 has f/2.2 sensor while the 6 GB model have f/2.0 model. I don't really camera samples to know the 6 GB model would take better pics.

Now I am really confused.

R

anupam_pb said:
The difference between cameras of 6GB Zenfone & RN5 Pro isn't big but RN5P is better for sure.

Yes RN5Pro has slightly better camera, but what I saw in many reviews that pictures are over saturated, too bright than real. Max Pro M1 pictures are not too bright and looks real. I have not used both the phones but saw camera comparison in many reviews.

The reason I am not buying 3gb/4gb variant of Max Pro M1 is I wanted slightly better camera. RN5Pro has better camera but I wanted pictures which look real. And Xiaomi pushing ads in MIUI is another reason.

Max Pro M1 6 GB camera may produce more real colors. But not everyone really likes "real" colors. In fact little colorful pictures produced by the 3/4GB model maybe "liked" more.
That being said, I think 6 GB version is STILL a better option as the improvement is not just in the colors, rather the pictures are also more sharp.

That's why I think I will go with 6 GB version too now. Availability might be an issue though. It might go OOS fast.

R

A bit colorful is good, but many pictures of RN5Pro have too much bright/saturated colors.

You can have better camera experience on Max Pro M1 using Google Camera APP.

*www.xda-developers.com/asus-zenfone-max-pro-m1-google-camera/

The sale tomorrow is flash sale or full day sale?
.
That is, Am I have to remain awake at 12:00 AM midnight (the time, ghosts goes dating ) to place order?

RageshAntony said:
The sale tomorrow is flash sale or full day sale?
.
That is, Am I have to remain awake at 12:00 AM midnight (the time, ghosts goes dating ) to place order?

It's full day sale made into Flash sale since stock may end up getting finished fast.
Also if you don't want to wake till when ghosts are dating, you maybe able to get the deal at 9 PM today night, if you are a FK plus member.

Unable to hdfc card in my friends circle.

Placed order for zenfone 6gb With my phone exchange for 1400

Vyom said:
Max Pro M1 6 GB camera may produce more real colors. But not everyone really likes "real" colors. In fact little colorful pictures produced by the 3/4GB model maybe "liked" more.
That being said, I think 6 GB version is STILL a better option as the improvement is not just in the colors, rather the pictures are also more sharp.

That's why I think I will go with 6 GB version too now. Availability might be an issue though. It might go OOS fast.

Not necessarily. As you said, people might not know 6GB has a better camera, so will end up with 3GB or 4GB

RageshAntony said:
Placed order for zenfone 6gb With my phone exchange for 1400

Good choice
For which phone you got 1400?

Micromax canvas 5 E481

Got Zenfone max pro 6 gb . Good phone . Good battery life (but still needs to be improved. feels like 4500mah )

Thanks for your suggestions

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