Suggest a replacement for LG G2 under 25k

Hi Guys, my LG G2 just died today, well technically its not dead, but after it heated up while taking snaps, its dead to me :-?

The G2 is heating up significantly the past couple of weeks. Mild heating was common, during 3g streaming etc, but now its practically heating up like a furnace during any moderate cpu activity, like while taking multiple snaps one after another. Once while sync was going on I had used the camera, the CPU reached 65c+, which is insane but the battery did not heat up much. The cores started to throttle like crazy and the UI came to a near standstill, and the phone was too hot to touch. I had to shut it off. I can't blame the cpu as its working perfectly while watching videos using mxplayer, or playing music continuously for hours, or calling, or simply browsing/facebook. But when multiple cpu intensive activities are going on simultaneously all hell breaks loose. I can't blame the battery as its not heating up while charging and its lasting normally. This reminds of desktop cpus that heat up due to dust buildup in the cooler or the thermal paste had dried off, can't imagine this with my phone.

Anyway the phone had lasted for 2 years and I am too busy to take it to a service center. So I need a replacement. I want to buy a phone by September/October.

1. Budget?
25k max

2. Display type and size?
5.2"-5.5", max 5.7"

3. Dual sim?
Not required, nice to have.

4. Preferred choice of brand?
Anything other than Micromax, Lava, Xolo and the numerous other pseudo Indian/Chine brands.

5. What camera option you want (flash, front facing camera)?
Back snapper should take clean snaps, anything above 13mp, quality should come close to or match the G2 cam at least, don't care about the front cam.

6. Preferred operating system? (Android, iOS, Windows Phone, etc).
Android only

7. Preferred connectivity options (3G, 4G ready).
3G is good enough for me, couldn't care less about 4G, simply nice to have.

8. Primary use of handset (multimedia, camera, internet, gaming etc)?

A Lot of:
- Music/Videos.
- Plenty of browsing, I use 3g a lot.
Some:
- Photography
- Light gaming(no 3d racing action stuff), 2d arcades mostly.
Never:
-Selfie
-Heavy gaming

9. Any specific mobile phones in consideration?
Moto X2, Moto X Style, Moto X Play, Nexus 5
-Update: Xperia C4, Xperia Z2

10. Any other info that you want to share
Based on my usage scenario I need to following things:
-Very good Screen on Time, I spent a lot of time browsing, so a good power backup is must.
-I dread heating, so I want to avoid chipsets that heat up too much.
-Lightweight and snappy UI, I hate lags.
-Good after sales service is a strict requirement, can't deal with the cr@p that micromax threw at me with the Funbook.

+1 to last 3 in your list given that Nexus 5 is 2015 version. I won't consider Moto X2 now.

Added Xeperia C4 and Z2 to the list.

Xperia Z3 /Z3 compact for their great battery backup

ZTR said:
Xperia Z3 /Z3 compact for their great battery backup

Both are out of his budget (He won't like Z3C)

Z2 is a good choice & has great battery life but has a not so bright screen, dimmer than G2 (Z3 has a brighter screen)
S5 has a bit brighter screen than Z2 + much better contrast due to AMOLED (Note: Since S5, AMOLED screens from samsung are great, you can change display mode to natural if you don't like a bit oversaturation)

S5 has good battery life too (Just check it out)

I would say S5 & Z2 the best options now

I'm avoiding Oneplus Two because of its average battery life & brand value
If Moto X Play launches, it will suffice you needs, though it can't play 4K videos but your G2 can

Where is the funbook now ?

I have a mi3. The UI is quite intuitive. LG G2 UI is not that good and for that matter even vanilla android is not so good.

I like One Plus One too. But no reason to upgrade.

ZTR said:
Xperia Z3 /Z3 compact for their great battery backup

Z3 is out of my budget I think.

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anupam_pb said:
Both are out of his budget (He won't like Z3C)

Z2 is a good choice & has great battery life but has a not so bright screen, dimmer than G2 (Z3 has a brighter screen)
S5 has a bit brighter screen than Z2 + much better contrast due to AMOLED (Note: Since S5, AMOLED screens from samsung are great, you can change display mode to natural if you don't like a bit oversaturation)

S5 has good battery life too (Just check it out)

I would say S5 & Z2 the best options now

I'm avoiding Oneplus Two because of its average battery life & brand value
If Moto X Play launches, it will suffice you needs, though it can't play 4K videos but your G2 can

As much as I hate Samsung I won't argue that they have consistently made some great flagships, S5 looks like an excellent phone as well. Its just that some people in my office use galaxy grand. That phone sucks a lot, frequent hanging, battery dying very fast etc, doesn't inspire confidence in Samsung.

How does S5/S4 etc behave after 1/2 years?

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Faun said:
Where is the funbook now ?

I have a mi3. The UI is quite intuitive. LG G2 UI is not that good and for that matter even vanilla android is not so good.

I like One Plus One too. But no reason to upgrade.

*www.digit.in/forum/service-rma-watch/169297-micromax-company-run-satan-himself.html?highlight=

Its still with me, runs directly on charge, wi fi is dead, hangs a lot, everything crashes, the play store cannot connect. Its like a broken piece of furniture that sometimes you keep in your home.

tkin said:
*www.digit.in/forum/service-rma-watch/169297-micromax-company-run-satan-himself.html?highlight=

Its still with me, runs directly on charge, wi fi is dead, hangs a lot, everything crashes, the play store cannot connect. Its like a broken piece of furniture that sometimes you keep in your home.

Well...that's not fun at all.

tkin said:
As much as I hate Samsung I won't argue that they have consistently made some great flagships, S5 looks like an excellent phone as well. Its just that some people in my office use galaxy grand. That phone sucks a lot, frequent hanging, battery dying very fast etc, doesn't inspire confidence in Samsung.

How does S5/S4 etc behave after 1/2 years?

2 of my friends have S4 for the past 2 years. Till KK, their phone was a bit laggy but didn't hang (apps took a few more millisecs to open when compared to my old N4). Lollipop increased the speed. Its much smoother & faster now, though its still not as fast as stock android devices like N4 but the difference isn't visible until you go for comparison (its a matter of few millisecs)

1 of my friend has S5 with Lollipop & it was as fast as my N4 (just few millisec slower,not the same case for S6 ). But android M might be last update for S4 (or maybe Samsung won't give that too as S3 wasn't given Lollipop treatment). S5 is sure to get M

S5 on lollipop is good. I personally just don't like its design, rest is great

^ International S3 didn't even got Kitkat. They denied it because 1 GB ram was "not enough to handle" crapwiz kitkat. AT&T and/or korean version got it though.

Wait for one plus 2 sounds a better deal to me considering moto will be available in September.

anupam_pb said:
2 of my friends have S4 for the past 2 years. Till KK, their phone was a bit laggy but didn't hang (apps took a few more millisecs to open when compared to my old N4). Lollipop increased the speed. Its much smoother & faster now, though its still not as fast as stock android devices like N4 but the difference isn't visible until you go for comparison (its a matter of few millisecs)

1 of my friend has S5 with Lollipop & it was as fast as my N4 (just few millisec slower,not the same case for S6 ). But android M might be last update for S4 (or maybe Samsung won't give that too as S3 wasn't given Lollipop treatment). S5 is sure to get M

S5 on lollipop is good. I personally just don't like its design, rest is great

I hate the design of S5, but I'll take good hardware over design anyday, good design plus poor hardware does not entice me, like the Nubia N9 mini.

How is the battery life of S5 with Lollipop?

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SaiyanGoku said:
^ International S3 didn't even got Kitkat. They denied it because 1 GB ram was "not enough to handle" crapwiz kitkat. AT&T and/or korean version got it though.

S5 will get M I think.

tkin said:
I hate the design of S5, but I'll take good hardware over design anyday, good design plus poor hardware does not entice me, like the Nubia N9 mini.

How is the battery life of S5 with Lollipop?

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S5 will get M I think.

Android 5.0 Lollipop battery life test on Galaxy S5, LG G3, One (M8) and Nexus 5 - GSMArena Blog

anupam_pb said:
Android 5.0 Lollipop battery life test on Galaxy S5, LG G3, One (M8) and Nexus 5 - GSMArena Blog

Thanks, but I was looking for a more real world scenario. Like for an 1yr old phone with some wear on the battery, I want to know how such a device would behave under lollipop.

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Damn it, Samsung SGS5 that are being sold in flipkart are using some Adonis Prime whatever chipset, its out of the list. Where is the SD801 version?

tkin said:
Thanks, but I was looking for a more real world scenario. Like for an 1yr old phone with some wear on the battery, I want to know how such a device would behave under lollipop.

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Damn it, Samsung SGS5 that are being sold in flipkart are using some Adonis Prime whatever chipset, its out of the list. Where is the SD801 version?

That's the Exynos variant IIRC.
Samdung doesn't cares about the snapdragon variant.

SaiyanGoku said:
That's the Exynos variant IIRC.
Samdung doesn't cares about the snapdragon variant.

Yeah, competing with Apple won't get it anywhere, I think they are learning the hard way why every manufacturer is targeting the Indian middle class(~25k) segment and not the 40k+ segment(hint, that segment is ruled by a fruit company): $10 billion wiped off Samsung's market value - The Times of India

D

Don't get the S5, it has overstaturated display, camera is vrey overstaurated too, byad fone, naught wroth et inn mai onipion. Betar LG G3, elxcecent fone.

devil'sdouble said:
Don't get the S5, it has overstaturated display, camera is vrey overstaurated too, byad fone, naught wroth et inn mai onipion. Betar LG G3, elxcecent fone.

Not getting the model with Exynos anyway. G3 is out of budget.

D

I have seen that G3 crap selling on Ebay for 21-22k, brand new.

devil'sdouble said:
I have seen that G3 crap selling on Ebay for 21-22k, brand new.

Nope, never gonna buy 10k+ stuff from ebay ever.

devil'sdouble said:
I have seen that G3 crap selling on Ebay for 21-22k, brand new.

link please

D

tkin said:
Nope, never gonna buy 10k+ stuff from ebay ever.

Well best of luck for paying more then. I am not a fan of eBay by any means, but as long as my favourite sellers are there, and with the coupons there simply can't be a better deal.

Quite shockingly, no LG phones are listed on eBay any more! G2, G3, G4 none! WOW! I guess eBay has decided to be less filthy from now on, good.

tkin said:
Thanks, but I was looking for a more real world scenario. Like for an 1yr old phone with some wear on the battery, I want to know how such a device would behave under lollipop.

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Damn it, Samsung SGS5 that are being sold in flipkart are using some Adonis Prime whatever chipset, its out of the list. Where is the SD801 version?

Yeah, but that SoC is still better than S615, it supports 4K recording & playback (Not like the Note 3). Only con is no 4G support. There is 4G version available in India, which has S801. Ask for its price locally.
When S5 costed around 35k, 4G version costed 40k. I don't know its price now

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tkin said:
Not getting the model with Exynos anyway. G3 is out of budget.

Also G3 has average battery life, worse than G2

Check Xperia Z2, if 4G is a deal breaker

I am also using G2 for year and half now. Thinking to get one plus two now.. Good upgrade for old g2

Vegito said:
I am also using G2 for year and half now. Thinking to get one plus two now.. Good upgrade for old g2

Wait for reviews, see how is the battery life

Except for that & brand value, its a great phone

How does the Nexus 5(2013 edition) make sense? I know its an old phone but its getting Android M, also I think it might get android N as well.

Is there any chance google will launch the Nexus 2015 edition under 25k?

tkin said:
How does the Nexus 5(2013 edition) make sense? I know its an old phone but its getting Android M, also I think it might get android N as well.

Is there any chance google will launch the Nexus 2015 edition under 25k?

N5 2013 isn't that good, has poor battery life

Can't say anything about N5 2015

N6 was poorly priced

tkin said:
How does the Nexus 5(2013 edition) make sense? I know its an old phone but its getting Android M, also I think it might get android N as well.

Is there any chance google will launch the Nexus 2015 edition under 25k?

Why would you buy a downgrade to your G2?

I don't think N5 will be placed under 30k if it came with SD820 as the rumours suggest.

SaiyanGoku said:
Why would you buy a downgrade to your G2?

I don't think N5 will be placed under 30k if it came with SD820 as the rumours suggest.

That's true but I was thinking it as a replacement.

I really wish we can get a Nexus under 25k this year.

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anupam_pb said:
N5 2013 isn't that good, has poor battery life

Can't say anything about N5 2015

N6 was poorly priced

True that.

Why not Nexus 6 32GB. Its available @29.9k at flipkart.com

Tenida said:
Why not Nexus 6 32GB. Its available @29.9k at flipkart.com

Costly, bit over budget.

I had decided to go for this: Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE550KL Price in India - Buy Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE550KL Red 16 Online - Asus : Flipkart.com

After the reviews come in of course.

That specs are sufficient for most people......Let's see how the review fares

anupam_pb said:
That specs are sufficient for most people......Let's see how the review fares

SD615, 3000mah battery, SD card support, 3GB RAM will suit most of my needs.

tkin said:
SD615, 3000mah battery, SD card support, 3GB RAM will suit most of my needs.

Even a 2GB RAM would, just saying..... Ofcourse the more, the better

anupam_pb said:
Even a 2GB RAM would, just saying..... Ofcourse the more, the better

I also have my eyes on the version with SD410 and 2GB RAM that goes for 9,999/-. That also has massive 3000mah battery. While it will be slower and can't play games like NOVA, it can play most games fine incl Asphalt, Riptide etc, does not heat up much, has a good enough camera and dual 4G sim. Its pretty snappy like the Moto G3 as well. So the massive battery powered by a low power consuming 410 will do wonders for the battery life. And reviewers have praised it in youtube a lot.

Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE550KL Price in India - Buy Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE550KL Black 16 Online - Asus : Flipkart.com

tkin said:
I also have my eyes on the version with SD410 and 2GB RAM that goes for 9,999/-. That also has massive 3000mah battery. While it will be slower and can't play games like NOVA, it can play most games fine incl Asphalt, Riptide etc, does not heat up much, has a good enough camera and dual 4G sim. Its pretty snappy like the Moto G3 as well. So the massive battery powered by a low power consuming 410 will do wonders for the battery life. And reviewers have praised it in youtube a lot.

Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE550KL Price in India - Buy Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE550KL Black 16 Online - Asus : Flipkart.com

Honor 4X has S410 + 3000mAh battery which gives 5-6hr SOT with wifi on 24x7.... Total 1.5days
But I think, 4X has a better camera due to better sensor(sony imx214) & good post processing

anupam_pb said:
Honor 4X has S410 + 3000mAh battery which gives 5-6hr SOT with wifi on 24x7.... Total 1.5days
But I think, 4X has a better camera due to better sensor(sony imx214) & good post processing

But 8GB only....

Hey isnt that a downgrade from your G2 ? Why not get your G2 repaired ? Is the Zenphone laser truly better than G2 ?

Nerevarine said:
Hey isnt that a downgrade from your G2 ? Why not get your G2 repaired ? Is the Zenphone laser truly better than G2 ?

Laser assisted focus will help in much faster focusing, can't say that the Toshiba sensor is the best in that range, but still it will produce good images

Still overall a downgrade to G2, that's my opinion

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tkin said:
But 8GB only....

Yeah that, outdated OS & weight are the only cons which I believe it has.... Otherwise a great phablet (Its display is good too, better than my old N4's display in terms of brightness & better colour production)

Nerevarine said:
Hey isnt that a downgrade from your G2 ? Why not get your G2 repaired ? Is the Zenphone laser truly better than G2 ?

Yes, but there are few things I had learned after using the G2 for two years.

1. I seldom use the camera for photography, mobile cameras are not there yet. I always fallback to trusty FZ150 for photography. And very rarely a situation has come up where ended up using the G2 as a primary camera. I mostly use the mobile cam for quick snaps, like that of a signboard, or paper, mostly to capture information quickly that I would need to use later. For that a OIS camera is not required. A cheaper camera would do for me.

2. I rarely play games on my mobile, mostly 2d arcade games like subway surfer, hungry shark evolution, hill climb racing etc. I don't have the urge to play action games in my mobile.

3. Battery life is the key element in a mobile for me. I use my mobile a lot reading stuff in web, that's why I need maximum SOT. While the G2 used to give good SOT back when it was working good it never crossed 5 hrs for me(3g on and in use full time).

4. I need plenty of storage, my music collection stands at 150GB and growing day by day. I also watch a lot of TV series on my mobile on the way to office, or in office

For that I need a lot of storage space. A 720P TV series come at 7-8GB in general or more. I had estimated that I need 50GB for my music and 30GB for my videos. Ironically I don't load a lot of heavy apps, so 16GB of internal storage is enough for me(provided it comes out at 10GB).

5. Another important feature is the back button in my G2. Its the most convenient location to have the volume buttons, at least for me. It takes less than a day to get use to but its very difficult to let go of. Its the natural place where your finger rests on when holding the phone, also if the button is sideways you have to secure the phone on both sides to use them. But on the G2 you could put it face down on a surface and press the button. Apart from LG, Asus is one of the major manufacturers to use this style of button placement.

6. And finally the ultimate deciding factor is the price. While I don't regret purchasing the G2 but it seems bit wasteful to me to spend 35k plus on a phone(spent 42k on the G2) in the current scenario. Back when I bought the G2 the nexus 5 had not launched yet and sub 25k phones all had dual core cortext a9s in them. The snapdragons were no where to be seen under 30k and all we had were Allwinner and Texus etc with 1GB ram and cr@p batteries. The mobile scenario had improved a lot and thanks to the chinese companies we now have a feature reach phone sub 20k.

tl;dr All most all of the requirements that are mentioned in the front page is satisfied by the Asus Laser 14k model, hence decided to go for it.

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anupam_pb;2252513[B said:
]Laser assisted focus will help in much faster focusing,[/B] can't say that the Toshiba sensor is the best in that range, but still it will produce good images

Still overall a downgrade to G2, that's my opinion

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Yeah that, outdated OS & weight are the only cons which I believe it has.... Otherwise a great phablet (Its display is good too, better than my old N4's display in terms of brightness & better colour production)

The Laser's camera has nothing on the G2. G2 still has one of the best cameras in the market even in today's cutthroat competition. It's just that I don't need a uber good cam for my day to day use(read point 1 above).

It's definitely a downgrade but will serve most of my requirements.

Very nice list of requirements, kudos to you.. hope you find the right phone..
I too, have a requirement very similar to yours, looking forward to your purchase !

I'm torn between three phones now:

Moto X Play - Good specs, need more info on pricing and some initial reviews. Also waiting for India launch.

Asus ZF2 [STRIKE]Selfie [/STRIKE] Laser- Really good specs, specially for that price, need reviews and launch date.

Nexus 5 - No idea about specs or price. If the latest rumors are true then specs are beyond groovy, now thinking about pricing. Google has tendency to shake up the market (till nexus 5), waiting to see if they manage to pull out an elephant out of the hat.

Good thing is that the top two will probably be available by September end or October start. As for google we'll surely know the price and have some reviews by then. And that's the time I'm planning to purchase the phone (Oct/Nov). Will wait for Nexus if it revolutionizes the market, else will go for Selfie probably.

haha...tkin looks like few more models will get released by the time you will decide.

Faun said:
haha...tkin looks like few more models will get released by the time you will decide.

Can't help it, I hate changing phones, I plan to use phones for two years at least. Hence I end up doing a lot of research

The fruit of my research always serve me well, AT M50x, LG G2, Kobo Glo(bought for less than kindle basic).

tkin said:
Can't help it, I hate changing phones, I plan to use phones for two years at least. Hence I end up doing a lot of research

The fruit of my research always serve me well, AT M50x, LG G2, Kobo Glo(bought for less than kindle basic).

And now we can get pretty good hardware at very competitive prices, unlike before. My next phone will be less than 20k too.

tkin said:
I'm torn between three phones now:

Moto X Play - Good specs, need more info on pricing and some initial reviews. Also waiting for India launch.

Asus ZF2 Selfie - Really good specs, specially for that price, need reviews and launch date.

Nexus 5 - No idea about specs or price. If the latest rumors are true then specs are beyond groovy, now thinking about pricing. Google has tendency to shake up the market (till nexus 5), waiting to see if they manage to pull out an elephant out of the hat.

Good thing is that the top two will probably be available by September end or October start. As for google we'll surely know the price and have some reviews by then. And that's the time I'm planning to purchase the phone (Oct/Nov). Will wait for Nexus if it revolutionizes the market, else will go for Selfie probably.

Moto X Play would be a great phone for you because of its battery

As far as ZF2 Selfie is concerned, do you take that much selfies ??

Nexus 5(2015) - I'm sure it would just have a average battery life as Nexus line is always going for good hardware at low price (except N6, which was overpriced with an average cam). So better not get your hopes high for this one as far as battery life is concerned (both N4 & N5 had poor battery life, N6 had average)

After using N4 for 2 years, I realised battery life is the most important thing in smartphones (Although for me camera & size also matters). I'm currently happy with my Z3C (just wish it had dual SIM card support

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anupam_pb said:
Moto X Play would be a great phone for you because of its battery

As far as ZF2 Selfie is concerned, do you take that much selfies ??

Nexus 5(2015) - I'm sure it would just have a average battery life as Nexus line is always going for good hardware at low price (except N6, which was overpriced with an average cam). So better not get your hopes high for this one as far as battery life is concerned (both N4 & N5 had poor battery life, N6 had average)

After using N4 for 2 years, I realised battery life is the most important thing in smartphones (Although for me camera & size also matters). I'm currently happy with my Z3C (just wish it had dual SIM card support )

Sorry, I meant Laser, not sure how I ended up typing selfie, not into that stuff

I think the Laser with SD615, 3GB RAM, 720p screen and 3000mah battery at 14k would be a good buy. Now only if flipkart stocks the damn thing :-x

Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE550KL - Full phone specifications - the model with SD615.

^^ The specs are very confusing. gsmarena states 5.5" but flipkart sates 5". Which is correct? Moreover Laser has 2GB RAM & costs a rupee less than 10k. Which Laser version is 14K?

ssb1551 said:
^^ The specs are very confusing. gsmarena states 5.5" but flipkart sates 5". Which is correct? Moreover Laser has 2GB RAM & costs a rupee less than 10k. Which Laser version is 14K?

3 models. Note the model numbers, there are 3 distinct models but 2 model number, based on screen size only. Compare battery, screen size, processor and RAM:

Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE500KL vs Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE550KL vs Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE550KL: Compare Mobiles: Flipkart.com

GSMArena:

Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE550KL vs. Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE500KL - GSMArena.com - Based on model number only, check the processor spec options on the left model.

ASUS went full retard while naming those devices

Nerevarine said:
ASUS went full retard while naming those devices

They probably thought its best if they follow the practice they do with motherboards. PxxZxxVxxDeluxexxxUltraxxx - Good enough model name for 20 models.

tkin said:
3 models. Note the model numbers, there are 3 distinct models but 2 model number, based on screen size only. Compare battery, screen size, processor and RAM:

Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE500KL vs Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE550KL vs Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE550KL: Compare Mobiles: Flipkart.com

GSMArena:

Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE550KL vs. Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE500KL - GSMArena.com - Based on model number only, check the processor spec options on the left model.

WTH!! This is really messed up!! :facepalm:

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Nerevarine said:
ASUS went full retard while naming those devices

You are right dude! Hey where is the Asus Service Centre for Mobiles & Tablets in BBSR?

ASUS service is either Rashi peripherials in Saheed Nagar, or SA Infosys near meghdoot hotel..
There's also one more near INOX, i dont know it's name
Rashi handles motherboards and phones I think, the other one is for GPU

I have used Asus Zenfone 2. I wont suggest tkin to buy it. Maybe in laser model the chipset is different but OS is really pathetic. Asus don't fix major problem like memory leakage etc. Still current user facing that problem. Out of 2GB Ram only 150mb are available.

^^ Only 150MB free out of 2GB!! :O Maybe you have too many apps. That might cause the issue. Just a thought

Nerevarine said:
ASUS went full retard while naming those devices

I totally agree on that

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Tenida said:
I have used Asus Zenfone 2. I wont suggest tkin to buy it. Maybe in laser model the chipset is different but OS is really pathetic. Asus don't fix major problem like memory leakage etc. Still current user facing that problem. Out of 2GB Ram only 150mb are available.

I don't think so, about the 150MB free RAM part

ASUS UI is good enough

Laser model just gives the option of S410 or S615 (3GB RAM) with 720p screen & laser assisted AF

ssb1551 said:
^^ Only 150MB free out of 2GB!! :O Maybe you have too many apps. That might cause the issue. Just a thought

No, only few apps installed.

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anupam_pb said:
I totally agree on that

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I don't think so, about the 150MB free RAM part

ASUS UI is good enough

Laser model just gives the option of S410 or S615 (3GB RAM) with 720p screen & laser assisted AF

Buddy, I have used Zenfone 2 ZE551 for around 2months but as I said earlier maybe for snapdragon SoC software support will be better. Btw pls check Asus zenfone 2 page and reviews at flipkart where user complaining about such problem.

Do not go for Asus.. My friend had zenphone 2 with 4 gigs of ram.. But screen is no where near our G2. Also auto brightness is broken.. Screen is not enough bright either.

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tkin said:
I'm torn between three phones now:

Moto X Play - Good specs, need more info on pricing and some initial reviews. Also waiting for India launch.

Asus ZF2 [STRIKE]Selfie [/STRIKE] Laser- Really good specs, specially for that price, need reviews and launch date.

Nexus 5 - No idea about specs or price. If the latest rumors are true then specs are beyond groovy, now thinking about pricing. Google has tendency to shake up the market (till nexus 5), waiting to see if they manage to pull out an elephant out of the hat.

Good thing is that the top two will probably be available by September end or October start. As for google we'll surely know the price and have some reviews by then. And that's the time I'm planning to purchase the phone (Oct/Nov). Will wait for Nexus if it revolutionizes the market, else will go for Selfie probably.

Get Zenphone 2 Selfie it has better speakers and looks cool too with slim profile.

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Tenida said:
I have used Asus Zenfone 2. I wont suggest tkin to buy it. Maybe in laser model the chipset is different but OS is really pathetic. Asus don't fix major problem like memory leakage etc. Still current user facing that problem. Out of 2GB Ram only 150mb are available.

OS is not not developed by ASUS it is by google asus can't do anything about it and yes android 5.0 is most pathetic android version but memoryleak and battery drain is fixed in android 5.1 .

Tenida said:
I have used Asus Zenfone 2. I wont suggest tkin to buy it. Maybe in laser model the chipset is different but OS is really pathetic. Asus don't fix major problem like memory leakage etc. Still current user facing that problem. Out of 2GB Ram only 150mb are available.

I was never fond of Intel chipsets, these models have SD410 or SD615, both tried and tested. There's little Asus could screw up there. Even cheap chinese phones deliver good performance with those chipsets.

Vegito said:
Do not go for Asus.. My friend had zenphone 2 with 4 gigs of ram.. But screen is no where near our G2. Also auto brightness is broken.. Screen is not enough bright either.

agree wholeheartedly, the display looks really washed out.. dont go by 1080p alone
if you are moving from G2 -> Z2, you will notice this immediately

anupam_pb said:
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I don't think so, about the 150MB free RAM part

ASUS UI is good enough

Laser model just gives the option of S410 or S615 (3GB RAM) with 720p screen & laser assisted AF

I can vouch for that. Have been using the zenphone belonging to a colleague for a few days. Asus has one of the slickest UIs I had ever used, much better than the cr@p that comes with Samsung.

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Vegito said:
Do not go for Asus.. My friend had zenphone 2 with 4 gigs of ram.. But screen is no where near our G2. Also auto brightness is broken.. Screen is not enough bright either.

I agree, but it's not fair to expect G2 quality screen from a phone that costs less than 30% of the launch price of the G2. I had seen the screen of the Zenphone 1, its good enough(agreed its worse than the G2). I'm not sure whether any new phone under 25k has a screen as good as G2.

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Get Zenphone 2 Selfie it has better speakers and looks cool too with slim profile.

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OS is not not developed by ASUS it is by google asus can't do anything about it and yes android 5.0 is most pathetic android version but memoryleak and battery drain is fixed in android 5.1 .

Selphie is a wonderful phone but I find two issues there:

First issue is that I don't take selfies, so I'd be paying for something that I will never use(massive front cam).

Second is that the Selphie has a 1080p screen. The SD615 is pushed too hard to power a 1080p screen and at those resolutions not even stock android can always provide a smooth experience(looking at moto x play reviews). I'd rather have a 720p screen with a SD615. Otherwise there might be heating and stuttering, specially with the custom ZenUI which will tax the processor more than the default ui of the X Play.

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Nerevarine said:
agree wholeheartedly, the display looks really washed out.. dont go by 1080p alone
if you are moving from G2 -> Z2, you will notice this immediately

Agreed, but G2 has one of the best screens ever used in a phone, even by today's standards. Hard to get something to compete with the G2 under 15k

Have you considered Xiaomi mi4 ? Its available for 15k on flipkart, you get a decent 1080p screen, SD801, a decent camera and 3 Gigs of RAM..
Granted, MIUI is annoying but under 15k, I think its the best considering ASUS phones are half baked @ software
you can get it for as low as 10k if you exchange your current G2

Nerevarine said:
Have you considered Xiaomi mi4 ? Its available for 15k on flipkart, you get a decent 1080p screen, SD801, a decent camera and 3 Gigs of RAM..
Granted, MIUI is annoying but under 15k, I think its the best considering ASUS phones are half baked @ software
you can get it for as low as 10k if you exchange your current G2

G2>>Mi4 in overall terms.

No point in exchanging G2 for that low price.

but he's going to buy an ASUS Zenphone laser, which is even more inferior

Nerevarine said:
Have you considered Xiaomi mi4 ? Its available for 15k on flipkart, you get a decent 1080p screen, SD801, a decent camera and 3 Gigs of RAM..
Granted, MIUI is annoying but under 15k, I think its the best considering ASUS phones are half baked @ software
you can get it for as low as 10k if you exchange your current G2

Did consider it, but I'm not a fan of Xiaomi. And with their recent MiUi fiasco I'm not sure about their update cycles. Also its an old phone, at the end of its life, I want to buy a phone launch in later half of 2015.

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SaiyanGoku said:
G2>>Mi4 in overall terms.

No point in exchanging G2 for that low price.

I know, but I want a good phone under 25k as mentioned.

Excluding the OnePlusTwo.

tkin said:
Agreed, but G2 has one of the best screens ever used in a phone, even by today's standards. Hard to get something to compete with the G2 under 15k

Mi4i has a good display for sub 15k phone, can't say if its better than G2(never used a G2)

I'm sure S5 has the best display in sub 25k territory, haters gonna hate..... But since S5, AMOLEDs produce good accurate colours (in natural display mode, but you will love it, its better than what my Z3C has)..... S6 pushed the boundary further by improving brightness

I never asked but how would Moto X 2nd Gen fit my requirements? That damn battery though.

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tkin said:
Did consider it, but I'm not a fan of Xiaomi. And with their recent MiUi fiasco I'm not sure about their update cycles. Also its an old phone, at the end of its life, I want to buy a phone launch in later half of 2015.

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I know, but I want a good phone under 25k as mentioned.

Excluding the OnePlusTwo.

Why do u exclude Oneplus 2?

tkin said:
I never asked but how would Moto X 2nd Gen fit my requirements? That damn battery though.

Battery life isn't great so that's not worth considering, according to me
Your G2 has better battery life

the.one said:
Why do u exclude Oneplus 2?

1. Shoddy marketing practice
2. The fact that the company will decide WHEN I CAN and WILL purchase the phone rather than when I, the customer want to.
3. Bad after sales support, flipkart and amazon are filled with sad tales of service problems.
4. The snapdragon 810, no matter what the company claims it overheats. I had seen this problem in gpus, while some cards will run at normal temperature some will definitely overheat(cpu binning, not all cpus run at same temps). I don't want to play Russian Roulette with my phone.

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anupam_pb said:
Battery life isn't great so that's not worth considering, according to me
Your G2 has better battery life

Yeah, bad idea.

tkin said:
1. Shoddy marketing practice
2. The fact that the company will decide WHEN I CAN and WILL purchase the phone rather than when I, the customer want to.
3. Bad after sales support, flipkart and amazon are filled with sad tales of service problems.
4. The snapdragon 810, no matter what the company claims it overheats.

Nice summing up..... Another thing, its OS is not stable...... My friend who owns oneplus one has already clean flashed the phone 4 times in the past year due to small software bugs (Although that was CM not oxygen)

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tkin said:
1. Shoddy marketing practice
2. The fact that the company will decide WHEN I CAN and WILL purchase the phone rather than when I, the customer want to.
3. Bad after sales support, flipkart and amazon are filled with sad tales of service problems.
4. The snapdragon 810, no matter what the company claims it overheats. I had seen this problem in gpus, while some cards will run at normal temperature some will definitely overheat(cpu binning, not all cpus run at same temps). I don't want to play Russian Roulette with my phone.

nicely put.. I would'nt mind the marketing bit though. And SD 810 does overheat but the company claims it has controlled it by underclocking it and taking other such measures.

Qualcomm though needs to come out with newer set of chips quickly as its current gen mid & high end (SD615/SD810) both suffer with issues.

Hey guys, how does the Samsung J7 fare against other sets? Except the 1.5GB RAM it trumps sub 15k phones every aspect. Ideas?

tkin said:
Hey guys, how does the Samsung J7 fare against other sets? Except the 1.5GB RAM it trumps sub 15k phones every aspect. Ideas?

Are you seriously considering J7 with crapwiz?

Comparing J7 to the phone which Nexus 5 is based upon is like comparing Acer/HCL laptops to Asus ROG series.

SaiyanGoku said:
Are you seriously considering J7 with crapwiz?

Comparing J7 to the phone on which Nexus 5 is based upon is like comparing Acer/HCL to Asus ROG series.

Yeah, that cr@pwiz bugs me, plus a lack of sensors and less RAM. But the hardware is very good, Samoled+Exynos+13mp Cam+3000mah battery makes a killer phone, only if it came with Stock android

Samsung Galaxy J7 vs. Motorola Moto G (3rd gen) vs. Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE550KL - GSMArena.com

Damn Samsung killing the mood, they haven't changed the design and icons(phone icon) in ages.

tkin said:
Yeah, that cr@pwiz bugs me, plus a lack of sensors and less RAM. But the hardware is very good, Samoled+Exynos+13mp Cam+3000mah battery makes a killer phone, only if it came with Stock android

Samsung Galaxy J7 vs. Motorola Moto G (3rd gen) vs. Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE550KL - GSMArena.com

Damn Samsung killing the mood, they haven't changed the design and icons(phone icon) in ages.

Wasn't S4 selling for 15k? If somebody wants samsung only, why buy j7 when S4 is there?

SaiyanGoku said:
Wasn't S4 selling for 15k? If somebody wants samsung only, why buy j7 when S4 is there?

Though S4 has a better screen and more RAM it falls short of multiple features.

1. No dual sim, no 4G, big bummer these days.
2. Old phone, will not be updated much longer.
3. J7 has a bigger display, many people want that.

... other missing features.

Overall speaking, its the same reason I won't buy a LG G2 even if it came under 18k, these are the best phones of the last era, not much useful now a days: Samsung Galaxy J7 vs. Samsung I9500 Galaxy S4 - GSMArena.com

Gotta keep up with technology.

PS: I dislike both Samsung and their bloated os to stay away from the J7, just asking for an opinion. I will buy the J7 if its the absolute last resort, hope it never came to that.

tkin said:
Though S4 has a better screen and more RAM it falls short of multiple features.

1. No dual sim, no 4G, big bummer these days.
2. Old phone, will not be updated much longer.
3. J7 has a bigger display, many people want that.

... other missing features.

Overall speaking, its the same reason I won't buy a LG G2 even if it came under 18k, these are the best phones of the last era, not much useful now a days: Samsung Galaxy J7 vs. Samsung I9500 Galaxy S4 - GSMArena.com

Gotta keep up with technology.

PS: I dislike both Samsung and their bloated os to stay away from the J7, just asking for an opinion. I will buy the J7 if its the absolute last resort, hope it never came to that.

1. Dual sim ok
Current state of 4G in India = :lol:

2. Yeah, even XDA support is weak for i9500 compared to i9505.
3. Subjective. Hate those slipper sized phones.

SaiyanGoku said:
1. Dual sim ok
Current state of 4G in India =
2. Yeah, even XDA support is weak for i9500 compared to i9505.
3. Subjective. Hate those slipper sized phones.

If talking about 4G, I hate the stuff as well. It's not required over 3G unless you are streaming stuff which will be expensive beyond anything. But 4G will be required because of policies. Before 3G was launched the speed of Edge was great, was getting 20-22KBPS sometimes. Now after launch of 3G they reduced it a lot, specially Airtel and Vodafone. Same with 4G, they will reduce 3G speeds and shove it down our throat, someone needs to pay for that investment, and the government will not let go of a single paisa for selling spectrum.

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Did you reached to any final decision? My S4 died yesterday and I am also looking for an upgrade with similar to your requirements.

Asus zenfone 2 selfie looks good but have snapdragon 615. I was looking for atleast 801 processor..

Nexus 5 (2015) release date is still not yet fixed so I am thinking for going with current available options...

shubham6300 said:
Did you reached to any final decision? My S4 died yesterday and I am also looking for an upgrade with similar to your requirements.

Asus zenfone 2 selfie looks good but have snapdragon 615. I was looking for atleast 801 processor..

Nexus 5 (2015) release date is still not yet fixed so I am thinking for going with current available options...

I've all but finalized the Moto X Play which will launch tomorrow at 18k and 20k I think for 16GB and 32GB respectively.

If you don't want the 615(frankly I don't like it either), then go for Mi 4 or better yet Nexus 6, it will have sell as soon as new Nexus are announced. If you're ok with a 32bit cpu then Nexus 6 provides massive vfm now. I am just afraid that Google might focus more on 64bit in future and I'd like to ride the bandwagon

I had the ZF2 in mind as well, the laser model with SD615 and 720p display @ 14k, but it's nowhere near launch ATM.

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tkin said:
I've all but finalized the Moto X Play which will launch tomorrow at 18k and 20k I think for 16GB and 32GB respectively.

If you don't want the 615(frankly I don't like it either), then go for Mi 4 or better yet Nexus 6, it will have sell as soon as new Nexus are announced. If you're ok with a 32bit cpu then Nexus 6 provides massive vfm now. I am just afraid that Google might focus more on 64bit in future and I'd like to ride the bandwagon

I had the ZF2 in mind as well, the laser model with SD615 and 720p display @ 14k, but it's nowhere near launch ATM.

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Mi 4c is slated to come in future with SD808 @ less than 20k, but the fact that it will be 16GB without micro sd completely turned me off, there will be a 32GB model but it will most probably not come to India.

Zf2 laser with sd615 is listed on fk, but as out of stock. I guess it shouldn't be that far away. Mi4c & redmi note 2 should launch in India in a few days. Nexus 5 2015 isn't very far either.

the.one said:
Zf2 laser with sd615 is listed on fk, but as out of stock. I guess it shouldn't be that far away. Mi4c & redmi note 2 should launch in India in a few days. Nexus 5 2015 isn't very far either.

Heard its not launching, good news if it does.

Redmi Note 2 Release in India Delayed Indefinitely; Xiaomi vs Ericsson Patent Issue to Blame?

the.one said:
Zf2 laser with sd615 is listed on fk, but as out of stock. I guess it shouldn't be that far away. Mi4c & redmi note 2 should launch in India in a few days. Nexus 5 2015 isn't very far either.

Mi4c, if priced below 20k for 32GB version would be a great phone, especially considering that it is a dual SIM

anupam_pb said:
Mi4c, if priced below 20k for 32GB version would be a great phone, especially considering that it is a dual SIM

Read somewhere that the 32GB version will not come here.

anupam_pb said:
Mi4c, if priced below 20k for 32GB version would be a great phone, especially considering that it is a dual SIM

Five incher

Now having second thoughts about Moto X Play, the phone is perfect for my requirements. But it has no Gyroscope. So what will I miss out expect Photosphere/Cardboard/Youtube 360?

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tkin said:
Now having second thoughts about Moto X Play, the phone is perfect for my requirements. But it has no Gyroscope. So what will I miss out expect Photosphere/Cardboard/Youtube 360?

Sad. Afaik even the zenfone 2 laser @ 10k has the gyroscope.

the.one said:
Sad. Afaik even the zenfone 2 laser @ 10k has the gyroscope.

Yeah, both the Moto G and X Play lack the Gyroscope. So I want to know what are the shortcoming for that.

You will miss these kind of controls -> *youtu.be/MB9YMIGDZ50?t=1m15s
But tilting controls will work.

If you are interested in cardboard, most of the apps need gyro.

khalil1210 said:
You will miss these kind of controls -> *youtu.be/MB9YMIGDZ50?t=1m15s
But tilting controls will work.

If you are interested in cardboard, most of the apps need gyro.

I'm in office, so can't view the video, I'll go through it once I reach home. A list would or an article would be helpful.

I don't use photosphere(though I like the idea), don't use cardboard or youtube 360.

I do play games, arcade mostly but I'd like to keep all options open. I play racing games so those need tilt control.

So what are this risks I'm taking if I get a phone without the gyroscope?

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tkin said:
I'm in office, so can't view the video, I'll go through it once I reach home. A list would or an article would be helpful.

I don't use photosphere(though I like the idea), don't use cardboard or youtube 360.

I do play games, arcade mostly but I'd like to keep all options open. I play racing games so those need tilt control.

So what are this risks I'm taking if I get a phone without the gyroscope?

Why would anyone take a Moto X Play over an LG G2? It will be an downgrade. If you talk about Moto X Style then it is indeed an upgrade.

Geek-With-Lens said:
Why would anyone take a Moto X Play over an LG G2? It will be an downgrade. If you talk about Moto X Style then it is indeed an upgrade.

Battery Life, updates and probably camera. Granted gaming performance takes a hit but day to day performance is good enough.

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SaiyanGoku said:
Battery Life, updates and probably camera. Granted gaming performance takes a hit but day to day performance is good enough.

Man LG G2 is still a great phone. LG G2 with an custom rom from cloudyfa will just rape the Moto X Play. Custom Rom and Development Support for G2 is insane. Moto X Play Camera have disappointed in the reviews and LG G2 have a very great camera. I was comparing my old G2 shots and iPhone 6 Plus shots, G2 is superior. G2 is a piece of gem.

v.Na5h said:
Five incher

So ??? That's a good thing as it will avoid competiton from Moto X Play & not everyone likes to use a 5.5" device

Geek-With-Lens said:
Why would anyone take a Moto X Play over an LG G2? It will be an downgrade. If you talk about Moto X Style then it is indeed an upgrade.

The battery in my G2 is dying, the phone also heats up a lot these days, it will be a rather replacement than downgrade.

I ditch the powerful processor for better battery, ois camera for better daylight shots, custom skin for stock android. But the lack of gyroscope threw a curve ball, I think its better for me to wait. Gyroscopes are not like barometer or temperature meter, they are a part of the android ecosystem for a very long time, they are something the developers have taken for granted, not having it will be an issue I think.

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Battery Life, updates and probably camera. Granted gaming performance takes a hit but day to day performance is good enough.

Exactly, wasn't expecting the lack of gyro though.

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Geek-With-Lens said:
Man LG G2 is still a great phone. LG G2 with an custom rom from cloudyfa will just rape the Moto X Play. Custom Rom and Development Support for G2 is insane. Moto X Play Camera have disappointed in the reviews and LG G2 have a very great camera. I was comparing my old G2 shots and iPhone 6 Plus shots, G2 is superior. G2 is a piece of gem.

Agreed, in terms of features G2 was THE perfect phone, its the framework for Nexus 5 and the first international set to have the SD800, it didn't skimp on the battery or the camera.

To get my G2 up and running I need to replace the battery, the heating will be there but I don't play many games.

Geek-With-Lens said:
Man LG G2 is still a great phone. LG G2 with an custom rom from cloudyfa will just rape the Moto X Play. Custom Rom and Development Support for G2 is insane. Moto X Play Camera have disappointed in the reviews and LG G2 have a very great camera. I was comparing my old G2 shots and iPhone 6 Plus shots, G2 is superior. G2 is a piece of gem.

iPhones can't justify the price they charge

My Z3C is better than iphone 6 overall (even though iphone has a betetr build quality but price isn't justifiable)

tkin said:
The battery in my G2 is dying, the phone also heats up a lot these days, it will be a rather replacement than downgrade.
~snip~
To get my G2 up and running I need to replace the battery, the heating will be there but I don't play many games.

Wish we had heatsink pastes for phones too

anupam_pb said:
iPhones can't justify the price they charge

My Z3C is better than iphone 6 overall (even though iphone has a betetr build quality but price isn't justifiable)

Do you want this thread to turn into a Warzone?

There's a reason Apple makes such huge profit on an iphone, they do the marketing right.

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SaiyanGoku said:
Wish we had heatsink pastes for phones too

Sony Z5 uses TIM and Heatpipes, now you'll see people taking the phone apart, applying TX5 and posting benchmark.

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tkin said:
I've all but finalized the Moto X Play which will launch tomorrow at 18k and 20k I think for 16GB and 32GB respectively.

If you don't want the 615(frankly I don't like it either), then go for Mi 4 or better yet Nexus 6, it will have sell as soon as new Nexus are announced. If you're ok with a 32bit cpu then Nexus 6 provides massive vfm now. I am just afraid that Google might focus more on 64bit in future and I'd like to ride the bandwagon

I had the ZF2 in mind as well, the laser model with SD615 and 720p display @ 14k, but it's nowhere near launch ATM.

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Mi 4c is slated to come in future with SD808 @ less than 20k, but the fact that it will be 16GB without micro sd completely turned me off, there will be a 32GB model but it will most probably not come to India.

Moto X play with 615 and 2GB RAM. Do you think that it would last for atleast 2 years?

Mi4c with 16gb won't be enough for me. Atleast 32gb is required.

ZF2 may release on 21st September.

I was originally gonna wait for Nexus 5(2015) but my s4 died suddenly :cry:

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shubham6300 said:
Moto X play with 615 and 2GB RAM. Do you think that it would last for atleast 2 years?

Mi4c with 16gb won't be enough for me. Atleast 32gb is required.

ZF2 may release on 21st September.

I was originally gonna wait for Nexus 5(2015) but my s4 died suddenly

X Style then.

tkin said:
Do you want this thread to turn into a Warzone?

There's a reason Apple makes such huge profit on an iphone, they do the marketing right.

Sheeple will buy any crap with apple's logo on it.

Since you are back to square one, LG G3 Shine 32GB Black and Gold: Buy LG G3 Shine 32GB Black and Gold Online at Low Price in India - Snapdeal.com is for 28.5k. Seek some coupons to see if it comes under your budget.

kunalgujarathi said:
X Style then.

Either that or if its battery life is not upto the mark then Nexus 5.

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SaiyanGoku said:
Sheeple will buy any crap with apple's logo on it.

Since you are back to square one, LG G3 Shine 32GB Black and Gold: Buy LG G3 Shine 32GB Black and Gold Online at Low Price in India - Snapdeal.com is for 28.5k. Seek some coupons to see if it comes under your budget.

Heard it had a pathetic battery life. Need to go take a look. Also Nexus 6 should start dropping soon.

It always feels nice to purchase a newly released phone, get to enjoy it for a lot longer and get support, if going with 2014 phone Nexus 6 would be the better option I think, minus the camera.

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anupam_pb said:
iPhones can't justify the price they charge

My Z3C is better than iphone 6 overall (even though iphone has a betetr build quality but price isn't justifiable)

Well you will never know until you use it. Had same thoughts before switching to it.

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kunalgujarathi said:
X Style then.

X Style release date is still not yet fixed and nexus will release in india in mid-october.

G3 or Z3C is good or it's worth waiting for nexus or style?

Not a fan of 6 inch phones like nexus 6..

tkin said:
Yeah, both the Moto G and X Play lack the Gyroscope. So I want to know what are the shortcoming for that.

Style has it I guess

Lenovo vibe p1 world be a arsine phone...
Specs similar to play with 5000mah battery

Even I have requirements similar to OP and want to replace my Sony Xperia ZL for poor quality camera. I was waiting since August and now I see all currrent releases not fulfilling the expectations. Will be buying something next week now. Even cant wait for Asus selfy which got delayed from 16 sep to 21st sep now

I have shortlisted
LG G3
HTC E9+
Sony C5
Samsung A8

was waiting for-
Huawei Honor 7
Moto X style
Asus Selfy
Sony M5

sujoyp said:
Even I have requirements similar to OP and want to replace my Sony Xperia ZL for poor quality camera. I was waiting since August and now I see all currrent releases not fulfilling the expectations. Will be buying something next week now. Even cant wait for Asus selfy which got delayed from 16 sep to 21st sep now

I have shortlisted
LG G3
HTC E9+
Sony C5
Samsung A8

was waiting for-
Huawei Honor 7
Moto X style
Asus Selfy
Sony M5

Qualcomm screwed up this generations. All the phones released in this gen suffers from some sort of compromises. Either the camera or the battery or the cpu. The SD80x wielding phones were the last no compromise phones. So I've decided to wait till nexus launch. If they suck I'll just buy a cheap 10k phone for now and wait for next gen. Or better yet I'll just replace the battery of my G2 and use it for one more year.

None of the phones released so far this year can serve as a proper replacement for my G2. Sad year for Android.

tkin said:
Qualcomm screwed up this generations. All the phones released in this gen suffers from some sort of compromises. Either the camera or the battery or the cpu. The SD80x wielding phones were the last no compromise phones. So I've decided to wait till nexus launch. If they suck I'll just buy a cheap 10k phone for now and wait for next gen. Or better yet I'll just replace the battery of my G2 and use it for one more year.

None of the phones released so far this year can serve as a proper replacement for my G2. Sad year for Android.

Except for performance, I think Moto X Play is a good phone

Also Sony M5 is a good device but Sony didn't price it right. I was excepting it to be launched at around 26-28k.... 35k is too much

Waiting for a year would be a nice idea, as after the launch of S7, S6 might get below 25k price mark

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tkin said:
Qualcomm screwed up this generations. All the phones released in this gen suffers from some sort of compromises. Either the camera or the battery or the cpu. The SD80x wielding phones were the last no compromise phones. So I've decided to wait till nexus launch. If they suck I'll just buy a cheap 10k phone for now and wait for next gen. Or better yet I'll just replace the battery of my G2 and use it for one more year.

None of the phones released so far this year can serve as a proper replacement for my G2. Sad year for Android.

Im in the same boat too. Looking for a device that I will be happy to hold on to as my primary device for the next 2-3 yrs or more.

Currently biding time with my L720. Have a few hopes with next Nexus 5.

Considering the Moto X Play and still researching a little about it watching detailed review videos, i dont know whether i will need the gyro as i dont play many games, but certainly good to have (especially expect most of these to be present on phones costing 20k or more). What I'm more skeptical about is the performance of X Play with SD615, dont wanna see lags etc after installing many apps.

Will go for Moto g3/zenfone laser (or a new WP+Android Tab combo) if i dont find anything interesting in next few days.

anupam_pb said:
Except for performance, I think Moto X Play is a good phone

Also Sony M5 is a good device but Sony didn't price it right. I was excepting it to be launched at around 26-28k.... 35k is too much

Waiting for a year would be a nice idea, as after the launch of S7, S6 might get below 25k price mark

I'd rather purchase the S6 Edge plus, that display is uber cool.

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the.one said:
Im in the same boat too. Looking for a device that I will be happy to hold on to as my primary device for the next 2-3 yrs or more.

Currently biding time with my L720. Have a few hopes with next Nexus 5.

Considering the Moto X Play and still researching a little about it watching detailed review videos, i dont know whether i will need the gyro as i dont play many games, but certainly good to have (especially expect most of these to be present on phones costing 20k or more). What I'm more skeptical about is the performance of X Play with SD615, dont wanna see lags etc after installing many apps.

Will go for Moto g3/zenfone laser (or a new WP+Android Tab combo) if i dont find anything interesting in next few days.

20K or more? The gyro is there on the sub 10k Asus Zenfone 2 Laser. Its very common these days. Its like buying a laptop without a bluetooth.

PS: Moto G3 lacks the Gyro as well, plus support for upto 32GB SD card. Better to go for Zenfone 2 Laser. Bigger battery, more sd card support(128GB) and the gyro. It lacks waterproof body and in the camera department. Take your pick. I'd have gone for the Laser.

I bought Sony Xperia C5 for 25k today from a local shop

great cam

K

G3 is now available for 28k on SD. Also, got a mail from Snapdeal regarding the Meizu MX5 sale starting 9:00AM tomorrow. It's raining phones in the 20-30K price band.

BTW, congrats [MENTION=39722]sujoyp[/MENTION]

sujoyp said:
I bought Sony Xperia C5 for 25k today from a local shop great cam

Nice, let us know how the Mediatek chipset feels.

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kevz22 said:
G3 is now available for 28k on SD. Also, got a mail from Snapdeal regarding the Meizu MX5 sale starting 9:00AM tomorrow. It's raining phones in the 20-30K price band.

BTW, congrats [MENTION=39722]sujoyp[/MENTION]

G3 has horrendous battery life.

thanks kevz22 and tkin...till now had tested various cam options and front cam is really great...back is not a huge improvement..will tell u about battery life soon..right now time to play

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tkin said:
I'd rather purchase the S6 Edge plus, that display is uber cool.

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20K or more? The gyro is there on the sub 10k Asus Zenfone 2 Laser. Its very common these days. Its like buying a laptop without a bluetooth.

PS: Moto G3 lacks the Gyro as well, plus support for upto 32GB SD card. Better to go for Zenfone 2 Laser. Bigger battery, more sd card support(128GB) and the gyro. It lacks waterproof body and in the camera department. Take your pick. I'd have gone for the Laser.

Ordered the Moto X Play 32gb black on cod. Scheduled to arrive on 01st Oct. Will cancel if there is news about x style or nexus launching soon. Otherwise too I think I should be happy with the X Play.

the.one said:
Ordered the Moto X Play 32gb black on cod. Scheduled to arrive on 01st Oct. Will cancel if there is news about x style or nexus launching soon. Otherwise too I think I should be happy with the X Play.

Do let us know the experience. It's a fantastic device, if you are not bothered about the gyro. Post some sample camera pics.

Congo [MENTION=39722]sujoyp[/MENTION] and @ the.one

thanks [MENTION=129348]shadow[/MENTION]

congrats the.one for moto play

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tkin said:
Do let us know the experience. It's a fantastic device, if you are not bothered about the gyro. Post some sample camera pics.

Yes its a good device & its from moto (thats the reason i got hooked onto it, otherwise I wouldn't have gone for a SD615 device by any means).

On hindsight I'm still thinking if the OPO would still be an overall better device.
X Style is still on my radar since flipkart is not going to deliver X Play within the next 10 days.

the.one said:
Yes its a good device & its from moto (thats the reason i got hooked onto it, otherwise I wouldn't have gone for a SD615 device by any means).

On hindsight I'm still thinking if the OPO would still be an overall better device.
X Style is still on my radar since flipkart is not going to deliver X Play within the next 10 days.

X style will come sometime around mid October. Price should be around 25 and 28k.

Motorola stock Android design is pretty optimized. The 2014 moto x pull sot that is quite unbelievable given the small battery.

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tkin said:
X style will come sometime around mid October. Price should be around 25 and 28k.

Motorola stock Android design is pretty optimized. The 2014 moto x pull sot that is quite unbelievable given the small battery.

Not sure whether its that optimised for battery life, seen reports where Moto X Play's 3630 mah battery is giving similar backup to the oneplus one.

the.one said:
Not sure whether its that optimised for battery life, seen reports where Moto X Play's 3630 mah battery is giving similar backup to the oneplus one.

With cyanogen mod or other custom os. Put that in X play and you'll get better battery stats.

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tkin said:
With cyanogen mod or other custom os. Put that in X play and you'll get better battery stats.

Yes so.. Doesn't that mean moto's rom is lesser optimized or more power hungry than cyanogenmod.

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sujoyp said:
thanks [MENTION=129348]shadow[/MENTION]

congrats the.one for moto play

Thanks but I haven't bought it yet..

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$hadow said:
Congo [MENTION=39722]sujoyp[/MENTION] and @ the.one

Don't Congo me now.. Haven't got it yet

Use greenify, don't care about battery capacity.

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^use hibernate manager and see the magic it doesn't need exposed framework and is better than greenify.

Minion said:
^use hibernate manager and see the magic it doesn't need exposed framework and is better than greenify.

Greenify doesn't requires xposed unless you want to use advanced paid features. Though i'll give hibernate manager a try. :thumbs:

Greenify works without root, the most important feature that is.