Suggest Cpu upgrade my 2200g / 1660s build

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.' Vague answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work.)
Ans: Playing CPU intensive games like Witcher 3, horizon zero dawn, assasin creed orgin, god of war on 1440p medium-high settings

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then please mention.
Ans: 30k, I am planning to upgrade my CPU as of now.

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: no

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: windows 10

5. How much hard drive / solid-state drive space is needed?
Ans: none ( already have ssd - WD Blue™ SN550 NVMe SSD - 500gb and hard drive - Western Digital 1TB )

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention the screen size and resolution you prefer. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, then do mention the screen size and resolution of the monitor you have.
Ans: none ( already have Acer Nitro VG271U, 1440p )

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy? i.e. which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans:
Corsair vengeance lpx 3000mhz ( 8GB * 2 )
Corsair CX550
AB350m gaming3 gigabyte
Antec GX 200
500 gb ssd
1 TB hard disk

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: By end of march

9. Have you ever built a desktop before? Or, will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: no since only cpu change, I will do it myself

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Hyderabad. will buy from CTC or online which ever is cheaper.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: Thank you geek digit forum for helping me buying my first pc back in 2018 and GPU in 2019. It has been absolute pleasure to be part of this forum.

I am getting high CPU usage in some games, want to upgrade CPU.

Should I just upgrade CPU . The highest CPU supported by my motherboard is 3700x. But I think 3600 will be fine for gaming. it is around 17200 in mdcomputers.
If I buy Ryzen 3600 do I need to buy a separate cooler or wraith stealth cooler is enough?

Or should i buy both CPU and motherboard,
like intel i5 12th gen CPU + some motherboard,
or Ryzen 5600 + some motherboard, sorry not following the latest news.

I am planning to keep this system for next 2 - 3 years. probably will upgrade GPU as I think 1660s wont be enough for 1440p gaming, if the GPU prices go down .

Intel i5 12th gen is the way to go. Its just better than Ryzen 5600 in every way.

So a 12400F / 12400 with b660 will do fine right I guess?

If it had R5 5600X support, that would have been an easy recommendation. For gaming, I won't recommend R5 3600 or R7 3700X now as even i3 12100F outperforms it in gaming.

I'd recommend an i5 12400 (19k)/12400F (16.5k) + Gigabyte B660M DS3H (10k)/WiFi (11.5k). Decide if you want WiFi & iGPU. I will pick iGPU variant because the PC can run without dGPU. The i5 should be capable enough of handling up to next gen upper mid range GPUs like maybe RTX 4070 without noticeable CPU bottleneck at 1440p, if you decide to upgrade in future. In future add a CPU cooler like Deepcool Gammax 400 Pro for 2.4k, stock cooler should be ok for gaming, but Indian summers are hot in most places.

Check this graph from Hardware Unboxed, 1440p is not as CPU dependent as 1080p:

Thanks for the inputs @omega44-xt , Yeah I feel like i5 12400 is better to buy, because if my GPU goes bad (knocks wood - pls don't go bad ) I will have a working system and can buy GPU later on.

On motherboard that seems good. Wi-Fi seems to be plus to have. I am looking for mother board with Bluetooth, as I didn't have any good experience with Bluetooth dongles.

I will also buy custom cooler, I think Hyderabad is little bit on hotter side in summer and may require additional cooling.

Thanks for the suggestions @Nerevarine.

Should I also upgrade my case, The current CPU / tower I have makes noise when the CPU usage goes high. Any case recommendations ?

Every case with fans will make noise if the CPU temps goes high. I have 4 case fans but I don't hear them when I have ceiling fan switched on. if your current case can have at least 2 front intakes and 1 exhaust fan at the back then its fine. You can get more after monitoring the temps with this setup.
Quiet performance quite costly, Noctua NF-A12x25 fans or go liquid cooling.

Gigabyte B660M DS3H WiFi has bluetooth 5 as well.

The cheapest case that looks decent is Antec ICE311MT, has 4 pre-installed fans + meshed front. If you can spend more, get Deepcool Mattrexx 55 Mesh 4F for under 5.5k or Lian Li 215 for 6k.

For 3rd party case fans, Antec P12 & P14 are great value for money options. It performs close to Noctua NF-A12x25 but is much cheaper.

Just to add to the above post about Antec P12 fans, if you are using 3 of them at front, they do make noise at their highest speed. if you do not have ambient noise then you would notice them under heavy load. Otherwise they are really worth the money. Noctua fans only if you want nearly absolute silence, even under heavy loads.

I say dont invest in fans too much. Use pre installed fans or Cooler master 5 fan combo that you get as a set.

*www.primeabgb.com/online-price-rev...3-ghz-6-core-lga-1700-processor-bx8071512500/

call them for price, if its not that much more, then get this.

Thanks once again for the suggestions,

I am dropping the idea of buying new case and new fans,

I will try to buy (12400/12500) CPU + motherboard (Gigabyte B660M DS3H WiFi) next month. I will run it for few days and change case if temps get too high.

Nerevarine said:
call them for price, if its not that much more, then get this.

Sure, I will call may be after 1 week and check the price.

khalil1210 said:
Thanks once again for the suggestions,

I am dropping the idea of buying new case and new fans,

I will try to buy (12400/12500) CPU + motherboard (Gigabyte B660M DS3H WiFi) next month. I will run it for few days and change case if temps get too high.

Sure, I will call may be after 1 week and check the price.

Sounds like a good plan.

*arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/03/am...ryzen-5000-in-old-b350-and-x370-motherboards/

Did amd recently add support for 5000 series cpu to b350 boards?

Official list shows motherboard now supports 5xxx cpu

*www.gigabyte.com/Ajax/SupportFunction/Getcpulist?Type=Product&Value=6166

khalil1210 said:
*arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/03/am...ryzen-5000-in-old-b350-and-x370-motherboards/

Did amd recently add support for 5000 series cpu to b350 boards?

Official list shows motherboard now supports 5xxx cpu

*www.gigabyte.com/Ajax/SupportFunction/Getcpulist?Type=Product&Value=6166

Actually a good move. They want more market share. New buyers like me will buy Intel 12th gen, so they are relying on older AMD customers to upgrade.

Thats an insane move. Imagine upgrading from a 1600 to 5600/5800

Nerevarine said:
Thats an insane move. Imagine upgrading from a 1600 to 5600/5800

I doubt VRMs of old B350 mobo can handle an R7 5800 but 5600/5600X will be a great upgrade for gamers.

Maybe not 5800 but 5600G should be. Still a great upgrade.

Nerevarine said:
Maybe not 5800 but 5600G should be. Still a great upgrade.

5600G is not that good, unless priced under 15k IMO as i5 11400 exists. Still will be decent for old AMD users. R5 5600 has same configuration as 5600X but lower boost freq, so should be very close in performance to 5600X unlike 5600G.

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I am holding off the purchase until few months. Had some unexpected expenses, so budget to update pc is gone.

5600x is available for 19k now. Is this a good price? Did cpu prices drop.. last time I checked same processor was 22k

Check if new BIOS is available for your mobo to run Ryzen 5000, look into its steps. 5600X is a great upgrade for existing Ryzen users w/o changing mobo.

yes bios is available. I will try updating the bios this weekend. Currently mine runs very old version.

khalil1210 said:
yes bios is available. I will try updating the bios this weekend. Currently mine runs very old version.

Read all docs carefully. I think old mobos have low BIOS storage, so won't support all Ryzen CPUs in 1 BIOS version. Read thoroughly.

I am currently on bios version F22 on Gigabyte AB350M-Gaming 3

5600x is supported from T52d. It says ( Note: NO Bristol Ridge processors support. ) for T52d. ( GA-AB350-Gaming 3 (rev. 1.x) Support | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global ). Raven ridge is still supported on new version

khalil1210 said:
I am currently on bios version F22 on Gigabyte AB350M-Gaming 3

5600x is supported from T52d. It says ( Note: NO Bristol Ridge processors support. ) for T52d. ( GA-AB350-Gaming 3 (rev. 1.x) Support | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global ). Raven ridge is still supported on new version

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I heard old mobos will support just 3 gens of CPUs because of limited space, so either old 3 gen or new 3. Anyways, maybe better update BIOS when you have R5 5600X in your hand. Post BIOS update, if it works with old CPU good, else just swap CPU. Read more about it on reddit maybe.

Thanks for the suggestions guys,

I upgraded my cpu to 5600x and added 16 GB of ram,

Currently the pc seems snappy while browsing/ starting pc. Will play few games and check performance.

Thanks @omega44-xt @Nerevarine and @TheSloth for taking out time and giving suggestions.

Yo guys my cpu is running very hot.
At idle it is running at 60-65c

When watching YouTube or doing some coding (web development ). It is running at 70-80c

When playing any game ( I tried Control/ Hades, just after 2-3 mins after starting game it goes upto 95c

Read some articles, I think my case ( Antec gx 200 ) doesn't have good air flow.

Recommend me a case, cpu cooler and thermal paste.

I am thinking of buying the following tomorrow

If they are available Ant Esports ICE-311MT for 4k or Lian Li 215 for 6k or Phanteks 360A for 6k

Last time when I asked deepcool AK400 was not available, is Deepcool Gammax 400 for 2.5k or Deepcool Gammax 800 good or shall I look for something else..

Avoid Lian Li 215, it seems the front fans are of cheap quality and fails sooner compare to other stock case fans, its also harder to replace. This info I got from IndianGaming discord server where some people who have the case confirmed.

khalil1210 said:
Yo guys my cpu is running very hot.
At idle it is running at 60-65c

When watching YouTube or doing some coding (web development ). It is running at 70-80c

When playing any game ( I tried Control/ Hades, just after 2-3 mins after starting game it goes upto 95c

Read some articles, I think my case ( Antec gx 200 ) doesn't have good air flow.

Recommend me a case, cpu cooler and thermal paste.

I am thinking of buying the following tomorrow

If they are available Ant Esports ICE-311MT for 4k or Lian Li 215 for 6k or Phanteks 360A for 6k

Last time when I asked deepcool AK400 was not available, is Deepcool Gammax 400 for 2.5k or Deepcool Gammax 800 good or shall I look for something else..

The stock cooler is also not great for 5600X, but surely change the cabinet.

Get Ant one for something cheap, else get Lian Li 215.

See if you are satisfied with temps post cabinet upgrade.

Yes, Gammaxx 400 Pro is more than enough for 5600X.

Check these copy of CM TDMesh500 and Corsair 4000 AF

*antesports.com/products/ant-esports-ice-300mesh-mid-tower-gaming-cabinet

*antesports.com/products/ant-esports-ice-4000rgb-mid-tower-gaming-cabinet-black

Not sure if they are including the mesh dust filter or not with the cases.

Those are some nice prices.

Prices are good but it seems they don't come with front dust filters, only top. Found another case where they specifically mentioned about the front dust filter.

*antesports.com/products/ant-esports-690-air-white-mid-tower-argb-gaming-cabinet

Front dust filter is extremely important in India because of insane amount of dust.

Suggest Cpu upgrade my 2200g / 1660s build

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