Suggest me a good Ryzen config

I recently dropped my idea of buying a laptop and decided to go for a desktop.

I came to know that Ryzen 5 1600x performs well in benchmarks when compared to core i5 7600k. Since I am a 3D modeller and renderer , I think Ryzen is good for me. Eventhough core i5 7600k excels in game fps, it is only a 15 % difference and I am not a gamer .

But in some forums , people suggest that Ryzen architecture is equivalent to Intel old Broadwell architecture . So go for core i5 .

I am confused.

So my question is , apart from this benchmarks scores , in In which aspects Core i5 7600K excels over Ryzen 5 1600x ?

RageshAntony said:
I recently dropped my idea of buying a laptop and decided to go for a desktop.

I came to know that Ryzen 5 1600x performs well in benchmarks when compared to core i5 7600k. Since I am a 3D modeler and renderer, I think Ryzen is good for me. Even though core i5 7600k excels in game fps, it is only a 15 % difference and I am not a gamer.
But in some forums, people suggest that Ryzen architecture is equivalent to Intel old Broadwell architecture. So go for core i5.
I am confused.
So my question is, apart from this benchmarks scores, in In which aspects Core i5 7600K excels over Ryzen 5 1600x?

Check the reviews here: [Various]AMD Ryzen 5 1600x/1500x/1400 Reviews Roundup
You will know the difference in performance between Core i5 7600K Vs. Ryzen 5 1600X

I want a ryzen motherboard . My budget is 6,500

I need
1. 1 usb 3.1 port and 2 usb 2.0 ports on back and one usb 3.1 port header and one usb 2.0 header for front usbs
2. 3 fan headers for cabinet fans
3.2 RAM slot support upto or above 32GB in total
4. one PCI x16 3.1 slot
5.one PCI x4 slot

I must have good longevity and self-protection systems such as heat proof etc . Atleast 2 years warranty

In online shoping sites I found the title for the product Ryzen 5 1600 also had "wraith spire cooler" . But 1600X title don't have anything "wraith spire".

Does Ryzen 5 1600X comes with Wraith Spire cooler or not ?

If yes , what is the difference in performence between Wraith cooler and 212 EVO cooler ?

1600X doesn't come with any cooler. I have been using a 1600X for a month now. You need to buy an after market cooler or the wraith spire. I am not sure if 212 EVO is compatible with 1600X. I use a Hyper 212 Turbo. Please check the below link :
Hyper 212 EVO | Cooler Master

AM4 compatibility has an asterisk mark. I suggest if you want to buy the 212 EVO better call the shop or seller and confirm if the cooler package has AM4 kit. Otherwise you can go with 212 Turbo. Its awe-frigging-some. There are no screws and what not like the AM3 platform. Its a push pull lever.

@RageshAntony, don't create multiple threads for one requirement.
Fill this:
Asking for new PC help? ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS FIRST

SaiyanGoku said:
@RageshAntony, don't create multiple threads for one requirement.
Fill this:
Asking for new PC help? ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS FIRST

@SaiyanGoku && @bssunilreddy ...

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: 3D modeling and Rendering , Game designing .. Softwares are 3D max , maya , photoshop , Substance painter, Mari , Keyshot , Marmoset and Unreal Engine

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: 65,000 ... expandable upto 70k

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: never

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Windows 10 ultimate and Ubuntu based distro

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans:1 TB

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: 24" 1080P

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: I have to buy everything

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: Aug 1 week

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: I already have a assembled build by a assembler

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Bangalore .. Ready to buy online

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: Suggest me a good AMD Ryzen motherboard within budget.

Also pls tell the difference between RAM brands by this RAM companies . That is , G.Skill have AEGIS , Trident , ripjaws etc also Corsair and kingston also having like this. This is confusing when I am selecting 16GB DDR4 2400mhz RAM.

My current listed config attached as image ..

Budget -73.5K

AMD Ryzen R5 1600X -19500,
Asus Prime B350 Plus -8000,
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB(8GBx2) 3000Mhz -10000,
Cooler Master Hyper 212 LED Turbo -3500,
Antec VP550P -4000,
Corsair Carbide SPEC-01 -3500,
Zotac GTX1050Ti 4GB Mini -11500,
WD Caviar Blue 1TB -3500,
LG 22MP68VQ-P 22" LED IPS -9000,
Logitech MK200 KB/Mouse Combo -1000.
TOTAL -73,500.

bssunilreddy said:
Budget -73.5K

AMD Ryzen R5 1600X -19500,
Asus Prime B350 Plus -8000,
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB(8GBx2) 3000Mhz -10000,
Cooler Master Hyper 212 LED Turbo -3500,
Antec VP550P -4000,
Corsair Carbide SPEC-01 -3500,
Zotac GTX1050Ti 4GB Mini -11500,
WD Caviar Blue 1TB -3500,
LG 22MP68VQ-P 22" LED IPS -9000,
Logitech MK200 KB/Mouse Combo -1000.
TOTAL -73,500.

Thanks for you rig suggestion @bssunilreddy . In amazon user reviews and newegg reviews Asus prime b350 plus motherboard got many review telling that the motherboard performence is lower and also some complaint that it is dead after some months of usage . What about that reviews ?

I am Suggesting this configuration.

AMD RYZEN 5 SERIES HEXA CORE PROCESSOR 1600 - 16,600(Vedant Computers),
Asus Prime B350 Plus -8145(MDComputers),
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB(8GBx2) 3000Mhz -9770(MD Computers),
SEASONIC SMPS S12II 520W - 5,565
Corsair Carbide SPEC-01 -3500,
Zotac GTX1050Ti 4GB Mini -11500,
WD Caviar Blue 1TB -3500,
Dell Ultrasharp 24inch LED Backlight Monitor (U2415)\DELL U2412M - Rs.20,330\Rs.18,200(MD Computers),
SAMSUNG INTERNAL MSATA SSD 850 EVO 250GB (MZ-M5E250BW) MZ-M5E250BW - Rs.7,700(MD Computers),
Logitech MK200 KB/Mouse Combo -1000.
TOTAL -87800.

Asus Prime B350 Plus is one of the best B350 motherboards available, you can check these motherboards as well.

ASUS B350 F GAMING
GIGABYTE AB350M GAMING 3
ASROCK AB350 GAMING K4
MSI B350M GAMING PRO CARBON
MSI B350 KRAIT GAMING
Last two motherboards are only available on newegg.com online might not be launched in india but are top motherboard.

RageshAntony said:
Thanks for you rig suggestion @bssunilreddy . In Amazon, user reviews and NewEgg reviews Asus prime b350 plus motherboard got many reviews telling that the motherboard performance is lower and also some complaint that it is dead after some months of usage. What about that reviews?

Asus Prime B350 Plus is one of the best motherboards out there. Don't fall for the reviews.

bssunilreddy said:
Asus Prime B350 Plus is one of the best motherboards out there. Don't fall for the reviews.

Then ok. In the Asus B350 plus page , the usb port specification looks confusing

AMD Ryzen™/7th Generation A-series/Athlon™ Processors :
4 x USB 3.1 Gen 1 port(s) (4 at back panel, blue)
AMD B350 chipset :
2 x USB 3.1 Gen 2 port(s) (2 at back panel, )
AMD B350 chipset :
2 x USB 3.1 Gen 1 port(s) (2 at mid-board)
AMD B350 chipset :
6 x USB 2.0 port(s) (2 at back panel, , 4 at mid-board)

Why this list separated using same heading and a cpu heading . ? How many usb ports (based on types) does it have ?
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And also PCI slots lists also confusing

AMD Ryzen™ Processors
1 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x16 mode)
AMD Ryzen™/7th Generation A-series/Athlon™ Processors
1 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x8 mode) *1
1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (x4 mode)
2 x PCIe 2.0 x1
2 x PCI

Why this list separated by cpu names ? What does it mean ?

RageshAntony said:
Then ok. In the Asus B350 plus page , the usb port specification looks confusing

AMD Ryzen™/7th Generation A-series/Athlon™ Processors :
4 x USB 3.1 Gen 1 port(s) (4 at back panel, blue)
AMD B350 chipset :
2 x USB 3.1 Gen 2 port(s) (2 at back panel, )
AMD B350 chipset :
2 x USB 3.1 Gen 1 port(s) (2 at mid-board)
AMD B350 chipset :
6 x USB 2.0 port(s) (2 at back panel, , 4 at mid-board)

Why this list separated using same heading and a cpu heading . ? How many usb ports (based on types) does it have ?
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And also PCI slots lists also confusing

AMD Ryzen™ Processors
1 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x16 mode)
AMD Ryzen™/7th Generation A-series/Athlon™ Processors
1 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x8 mode) *1
1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (x4 mode)
2 x PCIe 2.0 x1
2 x PCI

Why this list separated by cpu names ? What does it mean ?

Check the mobo pic with marked ports on the specifications page (PRIME B350-PLUS | Motherboards | ASUS India)

Total of 8 USB ports on the back panel. 2 are USB 3.1 Type A gen 2, 4 are USB 3.1 Type A gen 1 and rest are USB 2.0 Type A.

Unless you want to use multiple AMD GPUs in crossfire, there is no need to get into the specifications of the PCI slots. The slots having clips at the right end are running in x16 mode. The longer slots without clips are PCIe 2.0 slots and the shorter ones are just PCI slots.

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May I know why you are so specific about PCI slots? Are you planning on crossfire/SLI? It has PCI 3 slot and you can put your PCI 3 graphic card on it.

SaiyanGoku said:
Check the mobo pic with marked ports on the specifications page (PRIME B350-PLUS | Motherboards | ASUS India)

Total of 8 USB ports on the back panel. 2 are USB 3.1 Type A gen 2, 4 are USB 3.1 Type A gen 1 and rest are USB 2.0 Type A.

Unless you want to use multiple AMD GPUs in crossfire, there is no need to get into the specifications of the PCI slots. The slots having clips at the right end are running in x16 mode. The longer slots without clips are PCIe 2.0 slots and the shorter ones are just PCI slots.

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Thank you very much for the answer .

How many front USB3.1 , 3.0,2.0 header it have in the motherboard ?

Apart for gpus , what are the peripherals can be inserted in PCIe slots (such as LAN cards )? Can I connect all PCIe x1, x4 ,x8 peripherals in this motherboard ?

Digital Fragger said:
May I know why you are so specific about PCI slots? Are you planning on crossfire/SLI? It has PCI 3 slot and you can put your PCI 3 graphic card on it.

I asked this becuase , in future if I bought a peripheral with PCIe x1 / x4 slot , can I able to fit it ? That is does this motherboard support all PCIe x1, x4 peripherals ? (because the x1 and x4 slot pictures in internet is smaller )

*blog.duropc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/PCIe-slots-300x266.gif

I am not going to use mutli GPU configs

RageshAntony said:
Then ok. In the Asus B350 plus page, the USB port specification looks confusing

AMD Ryzen™/7th Generation A-series/Athlon™ Processors :
4 x USB 3.1 Gen 1 port(s) (4 at back panel, blue)
AMD B350 chipset :
2 x USB 3.1 Gen 2 port(s) (2 at back panel, )
AMD B350 chipset :
2 x USB 3.1 Gen 1 port(s) (2 at mid-board)
AMD B350 chipset :
6 x USB 2.0 port(s) (2 at back panel, , 4 at mid-board)
Why this list separated using same heading and a CPU heading . ? How many USB ports (based on types) does it have?
And also PCI slots lists also confusing

AMD Ryzen™ Processors
1 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x16 mode)
AMD Ryzen™/7th Generation A-series/Athlon™ Processors
1 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x8 mode) *1
1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (x4 mode)
2 x PCIe 2.0 x1
2 x PCI
Why this list separated by CPU names? What does it mean?

All USB ports are shown via pictures which are on the Motherboard. What they have said is what they gave.
Ports at the back are
4 x USB 3.1 Gen 1 ports
2 x USB 3.1 Gen 2 ports
2 x USB 2.0 ports

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Remaining ports are at mid-board (on the motherboard) as headers for front panel
2 x USB 3.1 Gen 1 ports
4 x USB 2.0 ports
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2x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x16 mode) The ones marked with RED Dots below. Remaining are 2 x PCI lanes & 2 x PCIe 2.0 x1 lanes
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bssunilreddy said:
All USB ports are shown via pictures which are on the Motherboard. What they have said is what they gave.
Ports at the back are
4 x USB 3.1 Gen 1 ports
2 x USB 3.1 Gen 2 ports
2 x USB 2.0 ports

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Remaining ports are at mid-board (on the motherboard) as headers for front panel
2 x USB 3.1 Gen 1 ports
4 x USB 2.0 ports
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2x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x16 mode) The ones marked with RED Dots below. Remaining are 2 x PCI lanes & 2 x PCIe 2.0 x1 lanes
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Thank you very much . This is what I asked.

Thank you for taking your time for giving a pictorial answer . Also sorry for disturbing you . @bssunilreddy

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RageshAntony said:
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Thank you very much for the answer .

How many front USB3.1 , 3.0,2.0 header it have in the motherboard ?

Apart for gpus , what are the peripherals can be inserted in PCIe slots (such as LAN cards )? Can I connect all PCIe x1, x4 ,x8 peripherals in this motherboard ?

You can put sound cards, raid controllers, capture cards, wireless adapters, tv tuners or a second NIC etc.

RageshAntony said:
I asked this becuase , in future if I bought a peripheral with PCIe x1 / x4 slot , can I able to fit it ? That is does this motherboard support all PCIe x1, x4 peripherals ? (because the x1 and x4 slot pictures in internet is smaller )

*blog.duropc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/PCIe-slots-300x266.gif

I am not going to use mutli GPU configs

You don't need to worry about that. Unless you already have any you won't be buying legacy hardware now that only works on PCI 1. You may want to look into sound card if you have studio quality equipment and have need for better audio. I recommend Gigabyte Gaming 3 b350 motherboard over this one if audio is priority as it comes with better audio codec and circuitry.

Ths suggested configs are good but I'd suggest, getting the GTX 1060. If budget is problem, you may want to look into Ryzen 1600 which saves ~7k on processor+cooler.

RageshAntony said:
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Thank you very much. This is what I asked.

Thank you for taking your time for giving a pictorial answer. Also sorry for disturbing you. @bssunilreddy

You are always welcome here.

Digital Fragger said:
You can put sound cards, raid controllers, capture cards, wireless adapters, tv tuners or a second NIC etc.

You don't need to worry about that. Unless you already have any you won't be buying legacy hardware now that only works on PCI 1. You may want to look into sound card if you have studio quality equipment and have need for better audio. I recommend Gigabyte Gaming 3 b350 motherboard over this one if audio is priority as it comes with better audio codec and circuitry.

Ths suggested configs are good but I'd suggest, getting the GTX 1060. If budget is problem, you may want to look into Ryzen 1600 which saves ~7k on processor+cooler.

I am bit confused in last line you suggest .

For the following softwares .... 3D max , maya , photoshop , Substance painter, Mari , Keyshot , Marmoset and Unreal Engine ..... which is needed ?Higher CPU power or higher GPU power (or sadly both )?

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It depends on the complexity of stuff you'd be doing. If your frames have ton of particles, complex models to be rendered of course you will be GPU limited. If you are doing entry level stuff with nothing much to render, it doesn't matter whether your bottleneck comes from CPU/GPU as you'd be hitting high frame rates anyway. At 1080p resolution, GTX 1050ti will be enough but GTX 1060 will be significantly better, especially for the unreal engine. At stock speeds, Ryzen 1600 is not far behind 1600x and it very easily overclocks to 3.7-3.8Ghz which makes the difference barely justifiable for the price increase.

From what little knowledge I have (shared by my friends who work on CAD/CAM designs and all) you need workstation GPUs to achieve those tasks like FirePro or Quadro. But like @Digital Fragger mentioned if its basic stuff then a decent CPU will be able to handle it but if complex designs on CAD/CAM is what you will work on most of the times then you should eye on workstation GPUs. For Photoshop - gaming GPUs will do.

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I think he is interested in 3D modelling and game development stuff. Gaming GPU will be useful here.

RageshAntony said:
But in some forums , people suggest that Ryzen architecture is equivalent to Intel old Broadwell architecture . So go for core i5 .

See, clock to clock and core to core, Ryzen equals Broadwell. But hey, Ryzen 5 has 2 extra cores and 8 extra threads compared to the latest Skylake i5. Ryzen 5 simply destroys the latest i5 in overall performance.

RageshAntony said:
I asked this becuase , in future if I bought a peripheral with PCIe x1 / x4 slot , can I able to fit it ? That is does this motherboard support all PCIe x1, x4 peripherals ? (because the x1 and x4 slot pictures in internet is smaller )

*blog.duropc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/PCIe-slots-300x266.gif

I am not going to use mutli GPU configs

You can put a X1 or X4 card in a X16 slot and it will work completely fine.

Even an X16 card can be inserted in a physical X4 slot (provided the end is open on the slot to avoid obstruction), and it will work with reduced speed.

Moral of the story, if PCI-Express fits in physically, it works.

In June 2017 Digit Magazine , under Digit Top 3 Recommended Buys section , in Graphics cards sub-section . the price of Gainward Gtx 1060 6GB is mentioned as Rs. 19,000 .

Is it correct ? 19,000 seems to be low for the 6GB variant of Gtx 1060.

I searched the product in internet , but I can't find any online dealer having stock in it.

How I buy Gainward Gtx 1060 6GB ?

if gainward gtx 1060 6GB not available in India , then please suggest the lowest priced GTX 1060 6GB manufacturer ...

I want 6GB because I think whether this 3GB is enough for 3D modeling and texturing softwares and game engines .

Dear friends @bssunilreddy , @SaiyanGoku please reply to above gtx 1060 question ..

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You won't get at this price now. 21k - 22k seems like new normal for 6gb 1060. Check for zotac cards at your local shops.

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RageshAntony said:
Dear friends @bssunilreddy , @SaiyanGoku please reply to above gtx 1060 question ..

Even the cheapest ones out there will cost you ~22k

bssunilreddy said:
Budget -73.5K

AMD Ryzen R5 1600X -19500,
Asus Prime B350 Plus -8000,
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB(8GBx2) 3000Mhz -10000,
Cooler Master Hyper 212 LED Turbo -3500,
Antec VP550P -4000,
Corsair Carbide SPEC-01 -3500,
Zotac GTX1050Ti 4GB Mini -11500,
WD Caviar Blue 1TB -3500,
LG 22MP68VQ-P 22" LED IPS -9000,
Logitech MK200 KB/Mouse Combo -1000.
TOTAL -73,500.

Is there is any possible price drops in future ?

I read a article in digit "It is not advisable to buy a pc now "... Can I wait ?

Atleast can I able to buy GTX 1060 6GB below Rs.19,000

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RageshAntony said:
Is there is any possible price drops in future ?

I read a article in digit "It is not advisable to buy a pc now "... Can I wait ?

Atleast can I able to buy GTX 1060 6GB below Rs.19,000

If you don't need a PC now you can wait. GTX 1060 6GB at 19k is not happening any time soon though.

@RageshAntony - 19k for 6GB 1060 isn't possible now.

Garv1386 said:
Asus Prime B350 Plus is one of the best B350 motherboards available, you can check these motherboards as well.

ASUS B350 F GAMING
GIGABYTE AB350M GAMING 3
ASROCK AB350 GAMING K4
MSI B350M GAMING PRO CARBON
MSI B350 KRAIT GAMING
Last two motherboards are only available on newegg.com online might not be launched in india but are top motherboard.

I like all this motherboards. But the cost seems to be higher for my budget (above 8,500) . Will you suggest a ryzen motherboard below 6,000 which have atleast 2 USB 3.1 Gen 1 ports at back and 2 USB 3.1 Gen 1 ports headers

RageshAntony said:
I like all these motherboards. But the cost seems to be higher for my budget (above 8,500). Will you suggest a Ryzen motherboard below 6,000 which have atleast 2 USB 3.1 Gen 1 ports at back and 2 USB 3.1 Gen 1 ports headers

Asus Prime A320M-K -5165.

Link:Asus Prime-A320M-K AMD AM4 Socket Motherboard

@bssunilreddy Thanks for your suggestion

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Friends , Is this cyprocurrency mining in India is practically profitable or not?

If profitable , then does GTX 1060 3GB is enough or 6GB is mandatory ?

From the latest news mining Ethereum has become exponentially difficult as all crypto-currency mining is based on block-chain algorithm. So now ROI on mining Ethereum has diminished. People who actually mine use 4-5 GPUs (some crazy guy on YouTube showed his mining rig with 8 570s :emoji_astonished:

). Considering the cost of GPUs now its not that profitable. You are more than 6 months late to jump into mining now.

RageshAntony said:
Friends , Is this cyprocurrency mining in India is practically profitable or not?

If profitable , then does GTX 1060 3GB is enough or 6GB is mandatory ?

Not worth the time and effort. You need some 8-10 GPUs for substantial savings and earnings.