Suggestion on Intel 8th Generation Build

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Dear All,

As my existing laptop is gone kaput after 7 years, its time for me to realize my long cherished dream for a nice desktop. I stay in Hyderabad and open for suggestions to buy online or locally and can even ask my relative to search in Delhi market. Also thinking to get the items from USA if possible. getting the RAM and SSD is quite easy for me.

Please find my replies below.

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Gaming: Witcher series (1,2,3); Tomb Raider, Max Payne 3, Assasins Creed (all games). Programming and software like SAS 9.4, R & Python.

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: Tricky. It's now 1.25 lac because no point in saving 20K.

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: NO (Because I may not have the time and patience)

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Windows 10

5. How much is hard drive space needed?
Ans: 250 M.2 & 1 TB HDD. What is preferable M.2 + HDD or one single SSD of 1 TB

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of the monitor you have.
Ans: No not now. May opt for Acer predator or a double monitor set-up after 1 year. As of now, I would be using it on my VU UHD TV. (I kind of understand the limitations)

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: No Speakers, Keyboard, Mouse & Monitor

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: Definitely by Jan 2018. Someone is traveling so will get my M.2 NVME and G.Skill Trident Z RAM from the USA

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: Yes. (Many, but the last one was 2008.) Have dis-assembled and reassembled my laptop >10 times.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Hyderabad. I can get it locally or online or from USA (only items like M.2 SSD, RAM at max GTX 1070)

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: This is not a troll. I am confused whether I opt for ASUS STRIX or GIGABYTE AORUS. SHould I get my GTX 1070 or 1080 from the USA as the price difference is huge? If everything goes as planned then I will have my Graphics card Ram and Disk Drive from the USA by the end of December.

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This is what I have decide to get as my desktop configuration:

CPU Core i5 - 8600K
MoBo GIGABYTE Z370 AORUS Ultra Gaming
RAM G.SKILL Trident Z RGB Series DDR4 Memory Module (8GB X 2pcs, 3200Mhz) USA
Storage Samsung M.2 960 EVO ( 250Gb) + WD Blue 1 Tb
Graphics Card GIGABYTE GTX 1080 N1080WF3OC-8GD 8GB USA
Cabinet Coolermaster MasterBox 5 (One Side Tempered Glass)
PSU CORSAIR RM650X 650W
Power Backup APC BX1000CI-IN Back-UPS 1.1kVA, 230V

Kindly let me know whether the powerback can manage my desktop and 50" VU LED TV for 2 minutes before the power back-up kicks-in.

Following items have been ordered from US, hopefully will receive all of them by end of December, 2017.

M.2 960 (Samsung) *www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LYFKX41/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Gigabyte AORUS GTX 1080 (Rev 2.0) *www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0748KG9CK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Ultra Gaming MoBo
*www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075LC78QK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

G.Skill Trident Z RGB (2*8GB @ 3200MHz)
*www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MTDEYHU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=ALSNNIPTIUDG2&psc=1

Waiting for the inputs from other knowledgeable persons. Kindly pitch-in

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A 600VA UPS for 1070/1080!!You need at least 1100VA UPS & that too not connected to your 50" LED TV.Similarly, go for 750W PSU especially with 1080.Also 1070 or 1080, it depends on which resolution you are aiming for.I am not a gamer so can't say for sure but from whatever I read here & other places, a 1080 is required if you are aiming for playing at 4K resolution.As for your TV back up, use a home inverter.UPS is not meant for 50" LED TVs.

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whitestar_999 said:
A 600VA UPS for 1070/1080!!You need at least 1100VA UPS & that too not connected to your 50" LED TV.Similarly go for 750W PSU especially with 1080.Also 1070 or 1080,it depends on which resolution you are aiming for.I am not a gamer so can't say for sure but from whatever I read here & other places,a 1080 is required if you are aiming for playing at 4K resolution.As for your TV backup,use home inverter.UPS is not meant for 50" LED TVs.

Thank for your suggestion. I live in a gated community and so the power back-up kick-in within 30 seconds. I got your point and will do the necessary research before getting the final UPS. Till date my TV is anyways without any stabilizer or UPS since last 1.5 years.

Budget -126K

Intel Core i5 8400 -14500,
Gigabyte Z370 Auros Ultra Gaming -15000,
G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16GB(8GBx2) 3200Mhz -14000,
Corsair CX650M -6000,
Antec P8 Tempered Glass Panel -4500,
Zotac GTX1080 8GB Amp -44500,
Crucial MX300 1050GB SSD -22000,
APC 1.1 KVA -5500.
TOTAL -1,26,000.

bssunilreddy said:
Budget -126K

Intel Core i5 8400 -14500,
Gigabyte Z370 Auros Ultra Gaming -15000,
Antec P8 Tempered Glass Panel -4500,
Crucial MX300 1050GB SSD -22000,

Weird AF choices.
No need to pair 8400 with Z370. 8700k is better option. Why cheap out on the case? 22k for SSD on 120k budget is plain stupid. 120-256 GB SSD is more than enough, can be paired with 3.5" HDD and budget saved can be utilized on other parts. Optane option is also present in case mobo has 2 m.2 slots.

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bssunilreddy said:
Budget -126K

Intel Core i5 8400 -14500,
Gigabyte Z370 Auros Ultra Gaming -15000,
G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16GB(8GBx2) 3200Mhz -14000,
Corsair CX650M -6000,
Antec P8 Tempered Glass Panel -4500,
Zotac GTX1080 8GB Amp -44500,
Crucial MX300 1050GB SSD -22000,
APC 1.1 KVA -5500.
TOTAL -1,26,000.

Thank you for your input.

Do let me know the store location for the following items whose prices you have mentioned.

Intel Core i5 8400 -14500
APC 1.1 KVA -5500
Corsair CX650M -6000,
Antec P8 Tempered Glass Panel -4500

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SaiyanGoku said:
Weird AF choices.
No need to pair 8400 with Z370. 8700k is better option. Why cheap out on the case? 22k for SSD on 120k budget is plain stupid. 120-256 GB SSD is more than enough, can be paired with 3.5" HDD and budget saved can be utilized on other parts. Optane option is also present in case mobo has 2 m.2 slots.

What you mean "Weird AF choices" ?

8700K is out of budget. Since I am able to get 4 major parts from USA, will may move to 8500K

Swetank Saroj said:
Thank you for your input.

Do let me know the store location for the following items whose prices you have mentioned.

Intel Core i5 8400 -14500
APC 1.1 KVA -5500
Corsair CX650M -6000,
Antec P8 Tempered Glass Panel -4500

*mdcomputers.in/

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Swetank Saroj said:
What you mean "Weird AF choices" ?

He suggested a cheap case but a 22k ssd
Edit: Total goes above 130k for that config. :lol:

Swetank Saroj said:
8700K is out of budget. Since I am able to get 4 major parts from USA, will may move to 8500K

You could get either a lower end Z370 mobo since you won't be overclocking or get 8600k in case you don't want to spend more on the CPU.

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SaiyanGoku said:
He suggested a cheap case but a 22k ssd
Edit: Total goes above 130k for that config.

You could get either a lower end Z370 mobo since you won't be overclocking or get 8600k in case you don't want to spend more on the CPU.

OK.

Do let me know a better one. I finally opted for Samsung M.2 960 250 GB and will add HDD of 1TB. I might upgrade to 8600K. But need a future proof cabinet which can manage liquid cook RGB fan.
Suggest one for me. Check my original post have already ordered the items.

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bssunilreddy said:
www.mdcomputers.in

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Thank You!

Can you please let me know whether this cabinet will be good for 8600K combined with water cooling. Since I have ordered 4 major parts from USA and expecting t get them so I will have budget to increase to 8600K.

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will you be able to send it back in case a part fails ?

CPU is one of the least failing parts so you can consider that as well getting from there if it saves you enough money

dont pick Corsair CXm.. go with Corsair TX 650m @Rs 6500 or Corsair RM 650x at Rs 8300 preferably if you have budget

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Guyz I need your suggestions and views on the following.

COOLER MASTER MID TOWER CABINET (ATX) - MASTERBOX 5 TRANSPARENT SIDE PANEL (BLACK)

CORSAIR SMPS RM650X - 650 WATT 80 PLUS GOLD CERTIFICATION FULLY MODULAR PSU

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The ram that you ordered Gskill TridentZ 3200mhz 8gbx2 RGB is showing 239 $ in that amazon link that comes to Rs 15,500 same ram is Rs 16,250 on vedant

RAM G.SKILL 16GB (8GBX2) DDR4 - 3200 MHZ TRIDENT Z RGB SERIES F4-3200C16D-16GTZR

unless Gskill has international warranty this appears to be a bad deal..

buy from vedant or mdcomputers wherever it is cheaper after shipping

POWER SUPPLY CORSAIR RMX SERIES™ RM650X — 650 WATT 80 PLUS® GOLD CERTIFIED FULLY MODULAR PSU

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gta5 said:
The ram that you ordered Gskill TridentZ 3200mhz 8gbx2 RGB is showing 239 $ in that amazon link that comes to Rs 15,500 same ram is Rs 16,250 on vedant

RAM G.SKILL 16GB (8GBX2) DDR4 - 3200 MHZ TRIDENT Z RGB SERIES F4-3200C16D-16GTZR

unless Gskill has international warranty this appears to be a bad deal..

buy from vedant or mdcomputers wherever it is cheaper after shipping

POWER SUPPLY CORSAIR RMX SERIES™ RM650X — 650 WATT 80 PLUS® GOLD CERTIFIED FULLY MODULAR PSU

Thanks for sharing the link.

Yes I understand the challenge of not having warranty validity in India. But since I know people who travel frequently can manage it.

My only concern is the items should not be DOA because then it will be a mess for now and things will get delay big time.

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gta5 said:
will you be able to send it back in case a part fails ?

CPU is one of the least failing parts so you can consider that as well getting from there if it saves you enough money

dont pick Corsair CXm.. go with Corsair TX 650m @Rs 6500 or Corsair RM 650x at Rs 8300 preferably if you have budget

Yes I understand the challenge of not having warranty validity in India. But since I know people who travel frequently can manage it.

My only concern is the items should not be DOA because then it will be a mess for now and things will get delay big time.

Yes already considered RM650X.

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Since I am getting i58600K as my CPU. Which CPU cooler should I opt?

CoolerMaster Hyper 212X

OR

Arctic Freezer i32CO

I have opted for CoolerMaster MasterBox 5.

Suggestion on LED based RGB fans for Cabinet will be appreciated

That cabinet has very bad airflow!!

Swetank Saroj said:
Since I am getting i58600K as my CPU. Which CPU cooler should I opt?

CoolerMaster Hyper 212X

OR

Arctic Freezer i32CO

I have opted for CoolerMaster MasterBox 5.

Suggestion on LED based RGB fans for Cabinet will be appreciated

NZXT S340 Elite is a better case (don't go for Masterbox Lite 5).
Hyper 212x is ok for moderate overclocks. For OC to 5 GHz or if you just want a quieter pc, consider Noctua NH-D15 or MasterLiquid 240.

@OP: Do u want to show-off the cabinet with LED lighting ?
If Yes, then go ahead with RGB lighting and tempered glass cabinets.

Other wise u can save money and get better processor and GPU.
Trident RGB is highly overpriced and makes no sense in buying.

Invest your money wisely and gain more in performance.

and 22k for an SSD is too much, u only need 256GB or 512 GB SSD max for gaming. 1050GB is too much and waste for gaming requirements only.

Corsair Carbide Spec series is also good cabinet with excellent air flow.

U can buy Core i7 8700 and decent cooler (since u r not into overclocking)
Dont go for liquid cooling (overkill for your requirement)

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ssb1551 said:
That cabinet has very bad airflow!!

Any reason for your comment?

I chose it based on the following review and details available on Tomshardware

Best Cases

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Zangetsu said:
@OP: Do u want to show-off the cabinet with LED lighting ?
If Yes, then go ahead with RGB lighting and tempered glass cabinets.

Other wise u can save money and get better processor and GPU.
Trident RGB is highly overpriced and makes no sense in buying.

Invest your money wisely and gain more in performance.

and 22k for an SSD is too much, u only need 256GB or 512 GB SSD max for gaming. 1050GB is too much and waste for gaming requirements only.

Corsair Carbide Spec series is also good cabinet with excellent air flow.

U can buy Core i7 8700 and decent cooler (since u r not into overclocking)
Dont go for liquid cooling (overkill for your requirement)

Hi,

Yes. its a kind of show-off. Actually assembling a nice gaming desktop is one of my long cherished dream. My now dead laptop (kind-off as no video output) lasted me for 7 years and the same I would be using my desktop. Although I am getting a GTX 1080 and so and so. Wont be gaming a lot. AS I said its more of a dream.

Have already got Gigabyte Z370, GTX 1080, Samsung m.2 960 256 GB and Trident Z Ram. Will get them in my hand next Monday.

Have decided to get i5 8600K ( i7 8700 will increase the budget again by 7 K). Next year December or early Q1 2019 will get Accer z53 as monitor or any other monitor worth $800 USD.

Have planned to get Logitech G900 Chaos after 6-7 months.

Should I get the SMPS Corsair RM650X from the US. What are the demerits apart from warranty?

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Swetank Saroj said:
Hi,

Yes. its a kind of show-off. Actually assembling a nice gaming desktop is one of my long cherished dream. My now dead laptop (kind-off as no video output) lasted me for 7 years and the same I would be using my desktop. Although I am getting a GTX 1080 and so and so. Wont be gaming a lot. AS I said its more of a dream.

Have already got Gigabyte Z370, GTX 1080, Samsung m.2 960 256 GB and Trident Z Ram. Will get them in my hand next Monday.

Have decided to get i5 8600K ( i7 8700 will increase the budget again by 7 K). Next year December or early Q1 2019 will get Accer z53 as monitor or any other monitor worth $800 USD.

Have planned to get Logitech G900 Chaos after 6-7 months.

Should I get the SMPS Corsair RM650X from the US. What are the demerits apart from warranty?

Nice config. No other demerits.
Consider a NZXT Hue Plus or Corsair Node Commaner for integrated LED lighting. Both integrate with respective company's RGB fans and Coolers and LED strips

I personally am eyeing NZXT since i find their fans are more subtle than corsairs and the Infnity Mirror in Kraken 42/52 coolers is just awesome

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For ultimate performance, consider a 500GB NVME drive to remove all IO bottlenecks

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He is making a gaming rig,not a system for algo trading.

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Swetank Saroj said:
Any reason for your comment?

I chose it based on the following review and details available on Tomshardware

Best Cases

Masterbox 5 & Masterbox Lite 5 are different cabinets,Tomshardware review is for Masterbox 5 not Masterbox Lite 5.
MasterBox 5 - Black with MeshFlow Front Panel (B2B) | Cooler Master
MasterBox Lite 5 | Cooler Master

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whitestar_999 said:
He is making a gaming rig,not a system for algo trading.

Well Load times when scene changes

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Waise you can try RAIDing two NVMEs for Double Ultimate Performance

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vivek g delhi said:
Waise you can try RAIDing two NVMEs for Double Ultimate Performance

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No man, a 1050 GB SSD is Quadruple Ultimate :lol:

Sarcasm intended

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I was talking 2x1TB 960 PROs in RAID 0...
Now we are talking exponential increases in Ultimacy, not boring old geometric ....

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Plain having fun now

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I have received all the items. Will soon upload the pictures.

Thank you guyz for your help and support. Will share the pictures and videos soon.

Here is the final build (items):
CPU Core i5 - 8600K
CPU Cooler CM HYPER 212 LED (RED)
MoBo GIGABYTE Z370 AORUS Ultra Gaming
RAM G.SKILL Trident Z RGB Series DDR4 Memory Module (8GB X 2pcs, 3200Mhz)
Storage Samsung M.2 960 EVO ( 250Gb) + WD Blue 1 Tb
Graphics Card GIGABYTE GTX 1080 GV-N1080AORUS-8GD R2
NZXT SOURCE 340 ELITE Matt Black (Side Tempered)
PSU CORSAIR RM650X 650W
Power Backup APC BX1000CI-IN Back-UPS 1.1kVA, 230V

How much did you pay for the PSU?

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ssb1551 said:
How much did you pay for the PSU?

I got all the items from Hyderabad except RAM, MoBo, GTX 1080 & M.2 NVME which are from USA.

For PSU i paid 8800 plus 1.5% card charges.

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Looks Awesome

Do post Final build pics

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Total Damage?

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vivek g delhi said:
Total Damage?

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CPU Core i5 - 8600K 20,800
CPU Cooler CM HYPER 212 LED (RED) 2,740
MoBo GIGABYTE Z370 AORUS Ultra Gaming 9,586 ( paid in USD)
RAM G.SKILL Trident Z RGB Series DDR4 Memory Module (8GB X 2pcs, 3200Mhz) 15,742 ( paid in USD)
Storage Samsung M.2 960 EVO ( 250Gb) 8.891 (Paid in USD)
WD Blue 1 Tb 3,299
Dragon War Combo Keyboard + Mouse RGB 1,699
Graphics Card GIGABYTE GTX 1080 GV-N1080AORUS-8GD R2 38,000 (Paid in USD)
NZXT SOURCE 340 ELITE Matt Black (Side Tempered) 8,000
PSU CORSAIR RM650X 650W 8,932
Power Backup APC BX1000CI-IN Back-UPS 1.1kVA, 230V 5,481
Thermaltek Blue LED Fan (2 Nos) 1,320
LG Ext DVD Writer 1.523
Windows 10 Pro 939

TOTAL ~ 1,27,000

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Swetank Saroj said:
CPU Core i5 - 8600K 20,800
CPU Cooler CM HYPER 212 LED (RED) 2,740
MoBo GIGABYTE Z370 AORUS Ultra Gaming 9,586 ( paid in USD)
RAM G.SKILL Trident Z RGB Series DDR4 Memory Module (8GB X 2pcs, 3200Mhz) 15,742 ( paid in USD)
Storage Samsung M.2 960 EVO ( 250Gb) 8.891 (Paid in USD)
WD Blue 1 Tb 3,299
Dragon War Combo Keyboard + Mouse RGB 1,699
Graphics Card GIGABYTE GTX 1080 GV-N1080AORUS-8GD R2 38,000 (Paid in USD)
NZXT SOURCE 340 ELITE Matt Black (Side Tempered) 8,000
PSU CORSAIR RM650X 650W 8,932
Power Backup APC BX1000CI-IN Back-UPS 1.1kVA, 230V 5,481
Thermaltek Blue LED Fan (2 Nos) 1,320
LG Ext DVD Writer 1.523
Windows 10 Pro 939

TOTAL ~ 1,27,000

Nice. You Saved at least 20-25k by getting stuff from US. How come 939 for Win10 pro?

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Zangetsu said:
Looks Awesome
Do post Final build pics

These are few pictures of final build. Haven't removed the plastic from tempered side as I am scared of my kids.

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vivek g delhi said:
Nice. You Saved at least 20-25k by getting stuff from US. How come 939 for Win10 pro?

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From www.psngames.org

Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (OEM/Retail)

OEM is ~$9 Retail is ~$17. One can use PayTm for payment but additional transaction charges of Rs 286. I opted for OEW but its better to get Retail. Needed to cal MS support for complete activation.

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Swetank Saroj said:
From www.psngames.org

Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (OEM/Retail)

OEM is ~$9 Retail is ~$17. One can use PayTm for payment but additional transaction charges of Rs 286. I opted for OEW but its better to get Retail. Needed to cal MS support for complete activation.

Ah. Price is too good to be true

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vivek g delhi said:
Ah. Price is too good to be true

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It is!These keys/versions are not meant to be sold to typical home customers even if they are valid keys.Basically your money is not going to MS but individuals who are violating their terms & conditions by which they got these keys from MS/3rd parties.

A "true win 10 OEM" costs ~$100:
Windows 10 Home - 64-bit - OEM - Newegg.com

I would rather donate money to charities instead of giving it to guys who most probably don't declare it in their income tax return of whatever country they are in or declare it as their personal income with much lower tax rates.MS at least pay taxes on their income at standard rates.

whitestar_999 said:
It is!These keys/versions are not meant to be sold to typical home customers even if they are valid keys.Basically your money is not going to MS but individuals who are violating their terms & conditions by which they got these keys from MS/3rd parties.

A "true win 10 OEM" costs ~$100:
Windows 10 Home - 64-bit - OEM - Newegg.com

I would rather donate money to charities instead of giving it to guys who most probably don't declare it in their income tax return of whatever country they are in or declare it as their personal income with much lower tax rates.MS at least pay taxes on their income at standard rates.

The problem it not all think it that way, otherwise the world would have been a far far better place to live. "Perfect World"

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It's not like that,even using "ahem" windows is better.In both cases money is not going to MS but at least when you donate to a charity you know your money will be put to good use compared to giving it to people with no legitimate business relation to MS.

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Out of the following 3, which monitor should I purchase.

LG 34" Curved Monitor - 34UC79G

Alienware 34 Curved Gaming Monitor - AW2518HW

Which one should I get. I am confused, I like to get a 34" curved screen with IPS panel whereas Alienware is TN panel and G-sync compatible.

Both will cost me around 45K

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Swetank Saroj said:
Out of the following 3, which monitor should I purchase.

LG 34" Curved Monitor - 34UC79G

Alienware 34 Curved Gaming Monitor - AW2518HW

Which one should I get. I am confused, I like to get a 34" curved screen with IPS panel whereas Alienware is TN panel and G-sync compatible.

Both will cost me around 45K

Any suggestion or guidance on the above query?

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IPS panels have better colour reproduction & bigger screen is better for gaming but its resolution is 2560*1080 whereas alienware has only 1080p FHD resolution which seems kinda waste for a 1080 which is capable of 1440p gaming.