Suggestion on Rig and Graphic card, buying on saturday

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1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Downloading(system runs the whole day ), Playing skyrim, battlefield, Dead Space 3, GTA 5 and all the upcoming games.

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: 45K

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: No and Never

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Win 7

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans:80 gb, for now, will upgrade later, will be buying soon

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: Dell ST2220M, 1920 * 1080, will be purchasing it.

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: keyboard, UPS, optical drive

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans:under 1 week

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: Yes

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Delhi...Nehru Place is the way to go

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: Well thanks to all who have helped others already, in a way they have helped in choosing some of the components for the build. Here is what i have thought

CPU: Intel I5 3470
Mob: Gigabyte H77-D3H
RAM: 4GB 1600 MHZ Corsair Vengeance
Moni: ST2220M Dell
PSU: Gigabyte E620 600W 80+
Cabi: Cooler Master 430
HD : 80 GB Sata 7200 RPM
Key: Local
Graphic Card: 7870HD or 7950HD or GT660 TI though i'm inclinesd towards 7870 (which shop to buy from in Nehru place should be trustable)

I'm on strict budget, Please suggest a good graphic card with this config also can anybody help me with the ongoing rates of the hardware?

Also any changes in the above are welcome.

Thanks in advance for helping me out

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Could you post prices of those components that you are getting ???

it would be easier to see for a cheaper alternative if available....

btw a b75 mobo would do good enough for you....

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draco21 said:
Could you post prices of those components that you are getting ???

it would be easier to see for a cheaper alternative if available....

btw a b75 mobo would do good enough for you....

Thanks for the reply, but i think i forgot to mention in the main post budget can extend till 50K.

Also, does B75 support SSD and AMD XFire tech?

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not really...

for xfire, Asus p8h77 pro

Has 2*Pcie slots one in x16 and other in x8

for cabby try crosair 300r or 400r .....
rest your config looks very nice but get the 660ti card....

Whats the price of 660ti card ??

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gameranand said:
Whats the price of 660ti card ??

Do not do that..

You shouldnt be asking for the price of any components no matter what.. Do not betray the cyclone

rakesh_ic said:
Do not do that..

You shouldnt be asking for the price of any components no matter what.. Do not betray the cyclone

I was asking so that I can decide what to recommend to him. 7870 or 660ti.

My Cyclone is more than enough for me right now, working fine and pure awesomeness while gaming. Won't betray it in many years to come.

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gameranand said:
Whats the price of 660ti card ??

It is costing aroung 20K

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GTX 660TI would cost around 20K

7870 would be 17K

7970 would be 23k

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gameranand said:
I was asking so that I can decide what to recommend to him. 7870 or 660ti.
My Cyclone is more than enough for me right now, working fine and pure awesomeness while gaming. Won't betray it in many years to come.

To my knowledge 660Ti is priced a tad higher to 7870 and in comparison, I might recommend 7870 and yeah i possess one myself

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I do not know why my posts are not showing up

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Actually 660ti performs better than 7870.
It is only behind 7950 by a little....

it costs around 20k

In Kolkata, HD 7950 Vapor-X Edition OC with Boost is available around 21.3K and it is now good amount of faster than GTX 660 Ti after the latest 13.2 Beta 5 Driver release, especially when high AA and AF are being used.

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Cilus said:
In Kolkata, HD 7950 Vapor-X Edition OC with Boost is available around 21.3K and it is now good amount of faster than GTX 660 Ti after the latest 13.2 Beta 5 Driver release, especially when high AA and AF are being used.

I'm myself thinking of going for 7970HD and keeping the rest config as it is, since i'm getting it for 21k on MD computers that too the Vapour OC version. it will also keep the config future proof.

Can anybody here suggest a good and reliable shop in Nehru place from where to buy the Graphic card and all other components?

It is really great to see people brain storming and helping you out.

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Cilus said:
In Kolkata, HD 7950 Vapor-X Edition OC with Boost is available around 21.3K and it is now good amount of faster than GTX 660 Ti after the latest 13.2 Beta 5 Driver release, especially when high AA and AF are being used.

@Cilus: How is the config with AMD FX8350, also how energy efficient is it, i'm also considering AMD config but not sure of its energy efficiency and need some first hands reviews for the same. Also i'll be downloading a lot so would it be feasible to go for the AMD rig. Does AMD processor requires any extra cooling?

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a good shop i know of in nehru place is SMC.don'y know about any others.i got pretty good discounts from it.

terrifficm said:
GTX 660TI would cost around 20K

7870 would be 17K

7970 would be 23k

terrifficm said:
I'm myself thinking of going for 7970HD and keeping the rest config as it is, since i'm getting it for 21k on MD computers that too the Vapour OC version. it will also keep the config future proof.

Can anybody here suggest a good and reliable shop in Nehru place from where to buy the Graphic card and all other components?

Get your numbers right now itself, so you dont end up making a mistake while buying.

I think what you mean here is 7950 retailing for around 22k. The 21k price tag at MDComp might not include the tax.

terrifficm said:
I'm myself thinking of going for 7970HD and keeping the rest config as it is, since i'm getting it for 21k on MD computers that too the Vapour OC version. it will also keep the config future proof.

Can anybody here suggest a good and reliable shop in Nehru place from where to buy the Graphic card and all other components?

It is really great to see people brain storming and helping you out.

SMC International.

Myth said:
Get your numbers right now itself, so you dont end up making a mistake while buying.

I think what you mean here is 7950 retailing for around 22k. The 21k price tag at MDComp might not include the tax.

Yup he looks confused. I think he is talking about 7950 not 7970 because 7970 is available everywhere above 27K as for now AFAIK.

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gameranand said:
SMC International.

Yup he looks confused. I think he is talking about 7950 not 7970 because 7970 is available everywhere above 27K as for now AFAIK.

I'm talking about 7950 only that was a typo :-/

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This is how my final build is:-

CPU: Intel I5 3470
Mob: Gigabyte B75M
RAM: 4GB 1600 MHZ Corsair Vengeance
Moni: S2240L Dell
PSU: Gigabyte E620 600W 80+
Cabi: NZXT Gamma classic
HD : 80 GB Sata 7200 RPM
Key: Local

I have finally decided to go for 7950HD with this build. I'll be ordering it this month.

Can anybody help me on whether the PSU Gigabyte E620 600W 80+ would work well with the overall setup or i would need to change. Though i have already bought it.

Please help i'm very confused/Worried on this.

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I dont know who recommended you a GB PSU, but IMO you should have gone for a Corsair or Seasonic PSU in the first place.

Anways, wait for the experts to comment, dont just take my view on it.

^^ You're right buddy, Seasonic and Corsair should be chosen instead of Gigabyte PSU.

Regarding the performance of FX-8350, it is actually better choice than i5 3470, considering its gaming performance, Multi-threaded performance and overclocking potential. Power consumption at 100% load is almost 1.6 times higher but at idle state both FX-8350 and i5 3470 consume almost same power.

Also newer games like Far Cry 3, are highly multi-threaded and PileDriver CPUs (architecture name for AMD's 2nd Gen FX Processors) perform really good. Look at the reviews of Crysis 3 which can take advantage of all the 8 Cores of FX-8350 and it is almost smae as the mighty i7 3770K and Dual Core Processors like i3 3220 simply can't keep up...even a A10-5800K is 15 FPS ahead of it with same discrete GPU GTX 680.
So going for a FX-8350 is also a good idea.

More over if you buy the FX 8350 you get a much better quality Motherboard in the form of Asus M5A97 which is way way better than a Gigabyte B75 based one you have chosen.The M5A97 is far more feature rich.If you look at the Mobos side by side even visually the M5A97 reeks quality. Then with the FX you get a rig that is more powerful since you can overclock the processor when and ever you need to. If someone is not going for a Z77 and 3570K I see no reason why you shouldnt get a FX 8350. Now games are really utilizing the cores.So think about it.

one suggestion if u go with s2240m u can save like 1000bucks.....(i m realizing my mistake now..)

gta0gagan said:
one suggestion if u go with s2240m u can save like 1000bucks.....(i m realizing my mistake now..)

S2240L has vga +hdmi while S2240M has vga + dvi. Take whichever suits your needs.

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Well as suggested by Cilus and Incernator, if i go with FX8350 review which PSU and what Watts should i get, it should be a budget one but quality PSU. I have already purchased the PSU but will ask for a replacement.

good luck with asking for a replacement.. go for the Corsair GS600..

Myth said:
S2240L has vga +hdmi while S2240M has vga + dvi. Take whichever suits your needs.

better go with S2240M and save money... over small distances, the loses on DVI and HDMI are negligible.. HDMI is better only if the distances are more than the standard 5m.

terrifficm said:
Well as suggested by Cilus and Incernator, if i go with FX8350 review which PSU and what Watts should i get, it should be a budget one but quality PSU. I have already purchased the PSU but will ask for a replacement.

PSU budget ?
Anyway, few options;
Corsair GS600, TX650v2
Seasonic 620W

anirbandd said:
good luck with asking for a replacement.. go for the Corsair GS600..
better go with S2240M and save money... over small distances, the loses on DVI and HDMI are negligible.. HDMI is better only if the distances are more than the standard 5m.

I hope there isnt something else in those two models. 1k extra for hdmi over dvi seems a bit steep.

Myth said:
PSU budget ?
Anyway, few options;
Corsair GS600, TX650v2
Seasonic 620W

I hope there isnt something else in those two models. 1k extra for hdmi over dvi seems a bit steep.

one more thing when i tried to install the monitor software i got the BSD(blue screen of death) i was freaked out so i didn't install it again........(just wanted to warn u)

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Thanks @Gagan for the your valuable input

Thanks @Myth, i think i'll go with GS600 its around 5k

Thanks @Cilus and Incernator: I'm now inclined towards AMD after seeing the motherboard features and ofcourse processor speed + you get an additional bonus of overclocking.

Also i'm thinking of getting Gigabyte 970A-DS3 just to save some money Asus one is almost the same i think in features

Another clarification the RAM it would be same CL9 for both Intel mobos and AMD mobos, just sake of my knowledge i havnt purchased it yet.

fx 8350 benefits from higher clock RAM(from what i have read) if u can go for 1833 mhz RAM...... otherwise u can go for the 1600mhz one (there won't be much noticeable difference unless u overclock)......

Myth said:
I hope there isnt something else in those two models. 1k extra for hdmi over dvi seems a bit steep.

The Kensington lock is another feature that the S2240L has over the M !!!

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SEASONIC ECO SERIES 600W POWER SUPPLY 85% EFFICIENCY (SS600BT) | eBay

Is this good?

The Incinerator said:
The Kensington lock is another feature that the S2240L has over the M !!!

Ok will be buying s2240L sice there a lot of positive reviews about it.

terrifficm said:
Thanks @Gagan for the your valuable input

Thanks @Myth, i think i'll go with GS600 its around 5k

Thanks @Cilus and Incernator: I'm now inclined towards AMD after seeing the motherboard features and ofcourse processor speed + you get an additional bonus of overclocking.

Also i'm thinking of getting Gigabyte 970A-DS3 just to save some money Asus one is almost the same i think in features

Another clarification the RAM it would be same CL9 for both Intel mobos and AMD mobos, just sake of my knowledge i havnt purchased it yet.

I would say get the Asus M5A97. It is a very good board ,tried and tested.
CL9 Rams are just perfectly fine,no problem.

terrifficm said:
SEASONIC ECO SERIES 600W POWER SUPPLY 85% EFFICIENCY (SS600BT) | eBay

Is this good?

Give it a miss. Not inspiring. I couldnt find a single review of that PSU!!! Better get a Corsait TX650V2 for Rs 5600 or a Corsair GS600 atleast.

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As far as psu is concerned i'll go with gs600 that would be best.

But for motherboardvthe asus one is 2k more, tht would hinder my budget. Is there any considerable difference between asus qnd gigabyte one?

The combined budget of cpu + mobo is 16k +/- 500.

I understand but the Motherboard being one of the main components and the Asus being a good board, it is very hard to ask you to go and get that Gigabyte. I would say beg borrow or steal but get that beautiful Asus board.

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Welll, ok you insist i take your suggestions really seriously just becoz of your reputation and your valuable suggestions you provide on the forum. Thanks for the help.

If you look around a bit You can buy that board for Rs 6550/6600.

In my opinion u r buying a top end cpu so y not go for a good Mobo...
Buying a good mobo is very crucial for good performance(then again if u r planing to upgrade later it's a different case)...
If u can extend ur budget our buy gpu later

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@gta0gagan: Yup i'm going that way only, will build the rig first and probabaly purchase the card next month or so.

if i dnt buy a GPU, does this Asus motherboard has onboard Graphics, its a noob question i know but these days onboard graphic cards are really few?

No, none of the AMD 900 series chipset come with IGP.

Damn I remember that now that's y I had to go with i7 in my case....(i didn't took the money for gpu....)

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Hello guys,

i have got most of the components for my build with processor FX8350. I am just confused about the MOBO and GPU combo:-

1) 990FX and HD7870
2) M5A97 and HD 7950

which would be more future proof. The logic behind the first choice is that if i get a good mobo i can opt for Crossfire in future when things changes, also 7870 is a good value for money as of now and runs most of the games in high quality with 40-60fps which is acceptable to me.

the second one is the most obvious suggested choice on the forum.

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terrifficm said:
Hello guys,

i have got most of the components for my build with processor FX8350. I am just confused about the MOBO and GPU combo:-

1) 990FX and HD7870
2) M5A97 and HD 7950

which would be more future proof. The logic behind the first choice is that if i get a good mobo i can opt for Crossfire in future when things changes, also 7870 is a good value for money as of now and runs most of the games in high quality with 40-60fps which is acceptable to me.

the second one is the most obvious suggested choice on the forum.

I will advice you to go with the second option.

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rock2702 said:
I will advice you to go with the second option.

Thanks but it would be good if you provide reasoning for your advice, will help me decide better.

I would go with the Second one.... And get the M5A97 EVO R2 , 6 + 2 phase , good OCing ability than the M5A97...

In most cases a crossfire never happens after one gets a single powerful card in the first buy. So its now or never. I will vote for the second option.

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Is there any need for chasis fans, should i buy a few there can be 5 added to NZXT gamma or am i ok with the rig as of now, since i'm not overclocking any of the components.

If yes, then please suggest 120/140mm and where should i put them side/top/front?

Thanks in advance.

Put one on the side and one on the top.