Suggestions for PC in range of 70K

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1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Mainly Programming, Big Data and casual Gaming (Battlefield, Far Cry, COD) at Full HD

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: 70K

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: Nope.

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Dual Boot Windows 7 / Ubuntu

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: 1TB

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: Yes, 22" Full HD

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: Have to buy complete System

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: Next 2 - 3 weeks.

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: Have assembled few systems before.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans:Mumbai, will buy most stuff from Lamington Road.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: Nope.

Following is config I've thought of after reviewing other threads and inputs to them from senior members here.

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H87M-D3H
RAM: GSkill Ripjaws X 8GB(2 X 4GB)
HDD: WD Blue / Black 1TB.
Cabinet: NZXT Gamma / NZXT Source Elite 210
PSU: Corsair SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W
GPU: Sapphie DUAL-X R9 270X
Monitor: Dell S2240L 22" IPS LED
DVD Writer: ASUS 24X Sata
KB / Mouse: Normal multimedia combo
Speaker: Which brand & model is good around 1K?

When you say programming what types of programme do you mean?
I would say you have chosen a lovely rig already, however you need to mention what you are gonna do specifically. And for the GPU I would definitely not suggest Sapphire, regardless of who says what about that brand

PS : You might wanna grab an SSD by increasing the budget a bit more.

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Specific use for system will be:

Programming will involve Web Development, Mobile Apps, Big Data, Search and other misc stuff.
Gaming casually when I get bored or get sudden interest in playing games.
Movies & Music regularly.

I don't think SSD will serve any utility at the moment, might purchase it later if need be.

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whatthefrak said:
When you say programming what types of programme do you mean?
I would say you have chosen a lovely rig already, however you need to mention what you are gonna do specifically. And for the GPU I would definitely not suggest Sapphire, regardless of who says what about that brand

PS : You might wanna grab an SSD by increasing the budget a bit more.

Why?? Whats the problem with Sapphire??

Shiva

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shivakanth.sujit said:
Why?? Whats the problem with Sapphire??

Shiva

So far I've heard Sapphire to be good brand, not sure why he asked about avoiding it.

Do you have any suggestions for the system?

Processor -Intel Xeon E3 1225 v3 -15000,

Motherboard -Gigabyte B85M-D3H -5500,

HDD -Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB -6500,

Ram -Corsair Vengeance DDR3 8 GB -5500,

PSU -Antec VP550P -3500,

Cabinet -Corsair 300R -4500,

GPU -Sapphire/HIS R9 270X 2GB -15000,

Monitor -Dell S2240L LED IPS 22" -8500,

DVD Writer -Asus 24B5ST DVD-RW -1100,

KB/Mouse -Coolermaster Devastator Gaming Bundle -2800,

Speaker -Logitech Z313 2.1 speakers -1500.

Total -69,400.

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bavusani said:
Processor -Intel Xeon E3 1225 v3 -15000

Intel Xeon E3 1225 V3 does not have Hyperthreading.

bavusani said:
Motherboard -Gigabyte B85M-D3H -5500,

Please help me with benefit to go from H87 mobo to B85?

bavusani said:
Ram -Corsair Vengeance DDR3 8 GB -5500,

Isn't GSkill RipjawsX good?

bavusani said:
PSU -Antec VP550P -3500,

Why Antec PSU?

bavusani said:
Cabinet -Corsair 300R -4500,

I do not want to spend much on cabinet.

bavusani said:
KB/Mouse -Coolermaster Devastator Gaming Bundle -2800,

I am not so much into gaming so normal multimedia KB / Mouse would do for me.

For Processor, try XEON E3-1245 v3 which is based on Haswell architecture and comes with HT. Price will be around 17 to 18K

For Motherboard, you can use a good B85 board as a cheaper H87 replacement. Check the motherboard product page for the number of SATA II, PCI-E ports available and make your decision accordingly.

For Ram, RipjawX, Vengeance or Kingston HyperX Blue will perform similarly at stock speed. Buy whichever is cheaper. But I strongly recommend you get a single 8GB module for now and add another 8GB later. Kingston HyperX Blue 8GB X 1 1600MHz will be available within 5K.

For cabinet, you can look for Cooler Master K350 @ 3.6K

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but the 300R is 300 times better than it.

Shiva

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mastermunj said:
So far I've heard Sapphire to be good brand, not sure why he asked about avoiding it.

Do you have any suggestions for the system?

Go with bavusani's rig, only with this change

XEON E3-1245 v3 as per Cilus's suggestion.
also keep the 300r its worth its price.

Shiva

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Cilus said:
For Processor, try XEON E3-1245 v3 which is based on Haswell architecture and comes with HT. Price will be around 17 to 18K

For Motherboard, you can use a good B85 board as a cheaper H87 replacement. Check the motherboard product page for the number of SATA II, PCI-E ports available and make your decision accordingly.

For Ram, RipjawX, Vengeance or Kingston HyperX Blue will perform similarly at stock speed. Buy whichever is cheaper. But I strongly recommend you get a single 8GB module for now and add another 8GB later. Kingston HyperX Blue 8GB X 1 1600MHz will be available within 5K.

For cabinet, you can look for Cooler Master K350 @ 3.6K

Thank you for suggestions, I like E3-1245 V3 as well, will check price difference and availability and make decision between them.

Reason to choose H87 was that it supports Smart Response Technology for SSD as I may buy SSD in future. I am not sure about practical aspects of that feature, but if its not worthy, I shouldn't have any issue going for B85 as well.

I don't think I would need more than 8GB in near future, 16GB should be max, which would anyways be possible with 2 more sticks of 4GB each. Thus I will have 2 Dual Channel kits. Or do you see need for more than 16GB?

For cabinet, I was actually thinking to go upto 2.5K and later get extra fans for proper cooling. Do you strongly recommend spending more on cabinet?

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shivakanth.sujit said:
but the 300R is 300 times better than it.

Shiva

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Go with bavusani's rig, only with this change

XEON E3-1245 v3 as per Cilus's suggestion.
also keep the 300r its worth its price.

Shiva

Hi Shiva, I am not keen on spending more than 2.5K on cabinet unless there really is need for it. I would rather consider spending on proper cooling with extra fans.

What do you suggest for PSU? Is Antec any good in compared to SeaSonic?

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For PSU, its better that u get VP550p

Shiva

> ^ You'll ultimately regret not investing in a good cabinet. Trust me, it;s worth the price.

> Seasonic is better than Antec but is also more expensive. Get Seasonic S12II 520 W if you can, else VP550P is also good.

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harshilsharma63 said:
> ^ You'll ultimately regret not investing in a good cabinet. Trust me, it;s worth the price.

> Seasonic is better than Antec but is also more expensive. Get Seasonic S12II 520 W if you can, else VP550P is also good.

How much good a cabinet should be? Isn't NZXT Gamma any good?

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After going through all suggestions once again, have following queries.

1. Mobo: Apart from number of SATA ports, H87 has Smart Response Technology for SSD over B85, is it worthy? If not, I can go for B85.
2. Cabinet: Is NZXT Gamma good? Is it really necessary to spend 4K+ for a cabinet? Can I rather spend saved money for extra fans?
3. PSU: Antec vs Seasonic? Since this is main power source, I wouldn't mind spending a little extra for most reliable power source.
4. RAM: Should I go for 2X4GB or 1X8GB? I won't practically ever need more than 16GB for my system in near future.

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mastermunj said:
RAM: Should I go for 2X4GB or 1X8GB? I won't practically ever need more than 16GB for my system in near future.

Get a 1x8GB and when the prices come down it can be upped to 16 or more.

I currently have 2x2GB in Laptop and 2X1GB in Desktop... and these go useless if i want to upgrade as no one wants to buy them. As they can spend few more bucks and get higher ones with warranty too

But on other hand 2x4GB has a some performance increase over 1x8GB.

And that's my opinion.

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WhenKey said:
Get a 1x8GB and when the prices come down it can be upped to 16 or more.

I currently have 2x2GB in Laptop and 2X1GB in Desktop... and these go useless if i want to upgrade as no one wants to buy them. As they can spend few more bucks and get higher ones with warranty too

But on other hand 2x4GB has a some performance increase over 1x8GB.

And that's my opinion.

Okay, will consider this part. Thank you

mastermunj said:
How much good a cabinet should be? Isn't NZXT Gamma any good?

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After going through all suggestions once again, have following queries.

1. Mobo: Apart from number of SATA ports, H87 has Smart Response Technology for SSD over B85, is it worthy? If not, I can go for B85.
2. Cabinet: Is NZXT Gamma good? Is it really necessary to spend 4K+ for a cabinet? Can I rather spend saved money for extra fans?
3. PSU: Antec vs Seasonic? Since this is main power source, I wouldn't mind spending a little extra for most reliable power source.
4. RAM: Should I go for 2X4GB or 1X8GB? I won't practically ever need more than 16GB for my system in near future.

if you can find nzxt gamma, then get it . it is really good. else cooler master n300/n200 or betfenix merc alpha.
if you upgrade to 16gb , get single 8gb. that dual channel wont bring considerable improvements unless you run memory intensive benchmarks/softwares.

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also for the psu, seasonic produces really quality psus. that does not meant that antec is bad. Company cant be judged, but the models can be.

mastermunj said:
How much good a cabinet should be? Isn't NZXT Gamma any good?

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After going through all suggestions once again, have following queries.

1. Mobo: Apart from number of SATA ports, H87 has Smart Response Technology for SSD over B85, is it worthy? If not, I can go for B85.
2. Cabinet: Is NZXT Gamma good? Is it really necessary to spend 4K+ for a cabinet? Can I rather spend saved money for extra fans?
3. PSU: Antec vs Seasonic? Since this is main power source, I wouldn't mind spending a little extra for most reliable power source.
4. RAM: Should I go for 2X4GB or 1X8GB? I won't practically ever need more than 16GB for my system in near future.

> NZXT Gamma is very good for it's price.

> B85 motherboards aren't that good. Plus, H87 will allow partial overclocking by allowing you to alter the turbo boost ratios.

> NZXT Gamma is good.

> Seasoncic is much better than Antec but it's too expensive. Seasonic S12II 520 W will cost 5k compared to ~3.8k for Antec VP550P. Stick to Antec.

> The motherboard will probably have 4 RAM slots, so I'll recommend 4 GB x2 as it'll allow you to use the PC even when one ram goes kaput.

harshilsharma63 said:
> NZXT Gamma is very good for it's price.

> B85 motherboards aren't that good. Plus, H87 will allow partial overclocking by allowing you to alter the turbo boost ratios.

> NZXT Gamma is good.

> Seasoncic is much better than Antec but it's too expensive. Seasonic S12II 520 W will cost 5k compared to ~3.8k for Antec VP550P. Stick to Antec.

> The motherboard will probably have 4 RAM slots, so I'll recommend 4 GB x2 as it'll allow you to use the PC even when one ram goes kaput.

that was a bug and intel might have already updated the microcode to prevent the partial overclocking.

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rijinpk1 said:
if you can find nzxt gamma, then get it . it is really good. else cooler master n300/n200 or betfenix merc alpha.
if you upgrade to 16gb , get single 8gb. that dual channel wont bring considerable improvements unless you run memory intensive benchmarks/softwares.

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also for the psu, seasonic produces really quality psus. that does not meant that antec is bad. Company cant be judged, but the models can be.

Thank you for clearing my doubts. I'll then stick to NZXT Gamma.

I am okay paying 1K extra for SeaSonic as everywhere I've read it to be best in PSUs.

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harshilsharma63 said:
> NZXT Gamma is very good for it's price.

> B85 motherboards aren't that good. Plus, H87 will allow partial overclocking by allowing you to alter the turbo boost ratios.

> NZXT Gamma is good.

> Seasoncic is much better than Antec but it's too expensive. Seasonic S12II 520 W will cost 5k compared to ~3.8k for Antec VP550P. Stick to Antec.

> The motherboard will probably have 4 RAM slots, so I'll recommend 4 GB x2 as it'll allow you to use the PC even when one ram goes kaput.

Okay, NZXT Gamma decided.

I'm not keen on overclocking anyways. The only advantage I felt H87 has is SRT, if that's not much useful, than B85 can work.

SeaSonic also final then.

For RAM even I'm of same opinion. Having 4X4GB at max shouldn't be a problem at all.

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rijinpk1 said:
that was a bug and intel might have already updated the microcode to prevent the partial overclocking.

Oh, lucky fellas who got H87 with that bug.

Please help me more with B85 vs H87 as I feel only that part remains to be finalized.

@all I checked price of E3-1245 V3 over phone and its around 19,500 but will re-confirm again in next week to be sure.

mastermunj said:
Thank you for clearing my doubts. I'll then stick to NZXT Gamma.

I am okay paying 1K extra for SeaSonic as everywhere I've read it to be best in PSUs.

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Okay, NZXT Gamma decided.

I'm not keen on overclocking anyways. The only advantage I felt H87 has is SRT, if that's not much useful, than B85 can work.

SeaSonic also final then.

For RAM even I'm of same opinion. Having 4X4GB at max shouldn't be a problem at all.

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Oh, lucky fellas who got H87 with that bug. Please help me more with B85 vs H87 as I feel only that part remains to be finalized.

@all I checked price of E3-1245 V3 over phone and its around 19,500 but will re-confirm again in next week to be sure.

E3-1245 V3 is basically an i7 4770. so if you can get it for 19.5k, then get it over 4770. do bargain

. i would suggest asus h87M E.

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rijinpk1 said:
E3-1245 V3 is basically an i7 4770. so if you can get it for 19.5k, then get it over 4770. do bargain . i would suggest asus h87M E.

Sure, bargaining is fun.

As far as Mobo is concerned I am little stuck on whether to go for B85 and save 1.5K or go with H87. I am not sure about practical benefits of H87 over B85. Sorry for being persuasive about this question.

mastermunj said:
Sure, bargaining is fun.

As far as Mobo is concerned I am little stuck on whether to go for B85 and save 1.5K or go with H87. I am not sure about practical benefits of H87 over B85. Sorry for being persuasive about this question.

Z87, H87, H81, Q87, Q85, B85 - What is the difference? - Puget Custom Computers

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If you're going with a CPU with no IGP, stick to B85 and save the extra money. The only useful feature of H87 over B85 is Lucid Virtu if you use Quick-Sync for video transcoding.

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mastermunj said:
@all I checked price of E3-1245 V3 over phone and its around 19,500 but will re-confirm again in next week to be sure.

Where did you get the price from... if possible kindly let me know the prices for E3-1230 V3 and E3-1240 V3 and E3-1275 V3 (almost all are similar to i& 4770 leaving few features...)

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rijinpk1 said:
Z87, H87, H81, Q87, Q85, B85 - What is the difference? - Puget Custom Computers

Thank you, will go through it and make decision.

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bikramjitkar said:
If you're going with a CPU with no IGP, stick to B85 and save the extra money. The only useful feature of H87 over B85 is Lucid Virtu if you use Quick-Sync for video transcoding.

Ok, will read about Lucid Virtu and make decision. Thank you.

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WhenKey said:
Where did you get the price from... if possible kindly let me know the prices for E3-1230 V3 and E3-1240 V3 and E3-1275 V3 (almost all are similar to i& 4770 leaving few features...)

Sorry, forgot to mention that I got pricing from PrimeABGB. They did not have pricing for 1230 & 1240 and told me to call back on Tuesday / Wednesday.

I am thinking to buy system next weekend, so will call and collect prices before that and share them here on thread.

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Also check out this... G Skill DDR3-1600/PC3-12800 8GB ram @ 4500 pointed out by harshil

G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) PC RAM (F3-12800CL10S-8GBXL) - G.Skill: Flipkart.com

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WhenKey said:
Also check out this... G Skill DDR3-1600/PC3-12800 8GB ram @ 4500 pointed out by harshil

G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) PC RAM (F3-12800CL10S-8GBXL) - G.Skill: Flipkart.com

Wow! That's good one, but I am thinking to go for 2X4GB, and Flipkart doesn't have good pricing for that.

Try to find Corsair XMS3 for ~2700. It was available at Flipkart but is gone now. Wait for a few days.

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harshilsharma63 said:
Try to find Corsair XMS3 for ~2700. It was available at Flipkart but is gone now. Wait for a few days.

Okay, checking it, thank you for suggestions.

By the way, if price is not concern, which one would you suggest between GSkill RipjawsX vs Corsair XMS3?

mastermunj said:
Okay, checking it, thank you for suggestions.

By the way, if price is not concern, which one would you suggest between GSkill RipjawsX vs Corsair XMS3?

ripjawsx all the way

mastermunj said:
Okay, checking it, thank you for suggestions.

By the way, if price is not concern, which one would you suggest between GSkill RipjawsX vs Corsair XMS3?

G.Skill RipjawsX.

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Great!! Thank you all for feedback.

Below is almost final configuration.

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1245 V3 / Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H87M-D3H
RAM: GSkill Ripjaws X 8GB (2 X 4GB)
HDD: WD Black 1TB. Merely for 5 years warranty.
Cabinet: NZXT Gamma
PSU: Corsair SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W
GPU: Sapphie DUAL-X R9 270X
Monitor: Dell S2240L 22" IPS LED
DVD Writer: ASUS 24X Sata
KB / Mouse: Normal multimedia combo
Speaker: Any good speaker upto 1K

Extra Fans: Cooler Master 12MM Silent Fans x 4

you can also consider, AOC i2369VM monitor.

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mastermunj said:
Great!! Thank you all for feedback.

Below is almost final configuration.

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1245 V3 / Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H87M-D3H
RAM: GSkill Ripjaws X 8GB (2 X 4GB)
HDD: WD Black 1TB. Merely for 5 years warranty.
Cabinet: NZXT Gamma
PSU: Corsair SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W
GPU: Sapphie DUAL-X R9 270X
Monitor: Dell S2240L 22" IPS LED
DVD Writer: ASUS 24X Sata
KB / Mouse: Normal multimedia combo
Speaker: Any good speaker upto 1K

Extra Fans: Cooler Master 12MM Silent Fans x 4

Go for single stick of 8GB... believe me you wont notice much difference in performance in day to day tasks.

It would be easier for you in long run

@op a few things about BigData setup with Hadoop Classic

I am running a Hadoop Cluster with 1 Desktop(Win7 x64 host with 8GB RAM) and a Laptop(Win 7 x64 host with 3 GB RAM) and all the VMs running Ubuntu. Hadoop Classic(no YARN) with PIG,HIVE ,MySQL.
- I have 1 NameNode running with 2 Cores with 2 GB RAM
- I have 3 DataNodes running with 1 Core with 1.5GB RAM each and 1 DataNode running with same config in the laptop

after starting all the Nodes I hardly have 1 GB RAM(physical) available for submitting tasks to the cluster.

So if you are running for just a learning setup then get any of the Xeon you have selected and get 12+ GB RAM. Also DataNodes requires a high disc bandwidth so mutiple physical discs would be better.

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rijinpk1 said:
you can also consider, AOC i2369VM monitor.

Thank you for suggestions, but I think that would be costly for my budget. Dell S2240L seems to fit perfectly in my budget.

WhenKey said:
Go for single stick of 8GB... believe me you wont notice much difference in performance in day to day tasks.

It would be easier for you in long run

Ok, will consider this.

avinandan012 said:
@op a few things about BigData setup with Hadoop Classic

I am running a Hadoop Cluster with 1 Desktop(Win7 x64 host with 8GB RAM) and a Laptop(Win 7 x64 host with 3 GB RAM) and all the VMs running Ubuntu. Hadoop Classic(no YARN) with PIG,HIVE ,MySQL.
- I have 1 NameNode running with 2 Cores with 2 GB RAM
- I have 3 DataNodes running with 1 Core with 1.5GB RAM each and 1 DataNode running with same config in the laptop

after starting all the Nodes I hardly have 1 GB RAM(physical) available for submitting tasks to the cluster.

So if you are running for just a learning setup then get any of the Xeon you have selected and get 12+ GB RAM. Also DataNodes requires a high disc bandwidth so mutiple physical discs would be better.

Wow! Thank you for such elaborate explanation. At the moment I can fit only 8GB in budget, plus I'll begin to learn BigData so I think 8GB should be good. I'll consider adding more RAM based on my learning and need. I have a 500GB spare disk with me so multiple disc problem should kind of not arise.

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Purchased following config along with price on 4th April from PrimeABGB.

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1245 V3 / Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 - 18,500/-
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H87M-D3H - 6,600/-
RAM: GSkill Ripjaws X 8GB (2 X 4GB) - 5,500/-
HDD: WD Black 1TB. 5,700/-
Cabinet: NZXT Gamma - 2,450/-
PSU: Corsair SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W - 4,700/-
GPU: Sapphie DUAL-X R9 270X - 15,000/-
Monitor: Dell S2240L 22" IPS LED - 8,750/-
DVD Writer: ASUS 24X Sata - 1,100/-
KB / Mouse: Normal multimedia combo - 800/-
Speaker: Any good speaker upto 1K - 600/-
Extra Fans: 4 NZXT 120MM Fans - 800/-

Total: 70,500/-

I must admire PrimeABGB for competitive pricing and excellent service.

Thank you all for your suggestions. I appreciate time you all have taken to help me choose best config.

Somehow, CPU temperature remains above 50 degree and hence thinking to get cooler for it.

I've tried keeping inside of cabinet clutter free, but haven't achieved great success. Will post more pics of cabinet and monitor later.

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mastermunj said:
Purchased following config along with price on 4th April from PrimeABGB.

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1245 V3 / Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 - 18,500/-
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H87M-D3H - 6,600/-
RAM: GSkill Ripjaws X 8GB (2 X 4GB) - 5,500/-
HDD: WD Black 1TB. 5,700/-
Cabinet: NZXT Gamma - 2,450/-
PSU: Corsair SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W - 4,700/-
GPU: Sapphie DUAL-X R9 270X - 15,000/-
Monitor: Dell S2240L 22" IPS LED - 8,750/-
DVD Writer: ASUS 24X Sata - 1,100/-
KB / Mouse: Normal multimedia combo - 800/-
Speaker: Any good speaker upto 1K - 600/-
Extra Fans: 4 NZXT 120MM Fans - 800/-

Total: 70,500/-

I must admire PrimeABGB for competitive pricing and excellent service.

Thank you all for your suggestions. I appreciate time you all have taken to help me choose best config.

Somehow, CPU temperature remains above 50 degree and hence thinking to get cooler for it.

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I've tried keeping inside of cabinet clutter free, but haven't achieved great success. Will post more pics of cabinet and monitor later.

Congrats and more pictures with assembled cabinet.

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Congos!!! Enjoy gaming on it!!

Shiva

congrats

good prices indeed.
post screenshot of real temp. also the fan placement matters!