Sun buys MySQL · DIGIT-ARC

*blogs.mysql.com/kaj/sun-acquires-mysql.html/
The subject says it all. More infor on the blog. I'm mobile atm so that's all I can post now

Cool, i like the MySQL dbs

I don't understand its technical significance but I am happy that it has remained a open-source application(Sun too has a great reputation for Open source.)

rohan_shenoy said:
I don't understand its technical significance but I am happy that it has remained a open-source application(Sun too has a great reputation for Open source.)

Lets just hope they don't Over-Complicate it(and i mean it).

Yeah!
MySQL and PHP are 'power with simplicity'
It makes my life very easy!

rohan_shenoy said:
Yeah!
MySQL and PHP are 'power with simplicity'
It makes my life very easy!

and JSP + Java Servlets + Java Beans + Tomcat are nightmares in complexity

Zeeshan Quireshi said:
and JSP + Java Servlets + Java Beans + Tomcat or nightmares in complexity

wow!
I don't intend to learn them in near future

PS: I don't know Java and all that stuff. I am a hobby programmer who learnt javascript, PHP and MySQL only because I desperately needed to prepare web application for my micro enterprise and could not afford the big bugs to the professional web developer

I am basically a medico and teacher!

lol...JSP and sevlets are fun to work with (My BE 1st sem project - Roster management ), examiner was impressed with the work

A good book and a keen mind makes the difference.

If u are in delusion that JAVA is a hardboiled egg then do refer this book:
Head First JAVA (Kathy Sierra & Bert Bates) - O'reilly Publication

And for JSP
Head First JSP - O'reilly publication

These are some of the non geeks books and a kind of visual tour.

Jakarta Tomcat is just a webserver/servlet engine, there is not much to learn abt it.

MySql is good for small projects but to get procedures, subqueries and other advanced features Oracle comes to rescue.

For Javascript validation SPRY framework rocks !!! (No more irritating dialog boxes, everything goes inline)

Learned a lot abt web application, always luved to learn new and better things.

T159 said:
MySql is good for small projects but to get procedures, subqueries and other advanced features Oracle comes to rescue.

+1 for that.
I'm currently working on 3000+ line Insurance premium computation packages, and Oracle's strength is pretty obvious in these situations

Zeeshan Quireshi said:
and JSP + Java Servlets + Java Beans + Tomcat or nightmares in complexity

nightmares with those u must be joking (and I mean it).

...and C#(and .net deps!) aint a better LANG than universally acclaimed cross platform JAVA 8) which is OSS too!(not all!)

ontopic:
Hope Sun keeps mysql grow!I read that postgresql is getting more users these days.

praka123 said:
...and C#(and .net deps!) aint a better LANG than universally acclaimed cross platform JAVA 8) which is OSS too!(not all!)

Just that C# has better performance

^in M$ Windows :lol:

while java is completely a cross platform language!hahahaha!

praka123 said:
^in M$ Windows while java is completely a cross platform language!hahahaha!

seems you haven't run any Mono app till now .

For example , Beagle , the de-facto Open-Source desktop indexing tool is written in C# :lol:

^I have removed mono cr@p completely from my system ! I hates how miguel & Co bloating Gnome with mono as dependency :evil:

praka123 said:
^I have removed mono cr@p completely from my system ! I hates how miguel & Co bloating Gnome with mono as dependency

Well technically C# has beter performance because .NET compiled the Bytecode(MSIL) to native app for the system when the application is run for the first time .

After this it just loads the compiled native image and runs it thereby giving very good performance . Dunno why you consider it crap ?

Almost all distributions use Beagle by default now .

@T159-Thanks for letting us know about those books. Will take a look at them.

Many ways i like sun..i dont know..thier products are great.now lets see what this all will mean...

phreak0ut said:
@T159-Thanks for letting us know about those books. Will take a look at them.

no problemo

they are the best beginner books for non-geeks.

M

Zeeshan Quireshi said:
Almost all distributions use Beagle by default now .

Which ones? AFAICR, ubuntu, suse, etc removed beagle because it was eating up too much CPU resources after running for a while.

I think they removed an Indexing SOftware because there was too much content to index and that took a lot of system resources ans users did not want that .

Ubuntu 7.10 does not have ANY indexing tool by default , but when you choose to install an indexing tool it installs Beagle

hey what about the GPL licensing of MySQL ? Will SUN keep it ?

Sun's under OpenGroup, probly Mysql would be shifted :-?

vish786 said:
Sun's under OpenGroup, probly Mysql would be shifted

we should hope that the open source license shall not be canceled. also, do you think the 100+ million users of MySQL out of which about 75-80 % will be Open Source (my estimate) shall agree for the cancellation of open source license ?

I think No... hope sun continues same open license for mysql considering as a seperate licensed product. :-?

[dilemma state]

vish786 said:
I think No... hope sun continues same open license for mysql considering as a seperate licensed product. [dilemma state]

But Sun's Open-Source License is OSI Certified Too so even if they change license it would still be Open Source .

Also , Java is GPL'ed so there's a very high chance that MySQL will remain GPL

sun probably is going to have the same license for MySQL.

*blogs.mysql.com/kaj/2008/01/16/sun-acquires-mysql/ said:
Facts on Sun Microsystems

* Founded 1982 by Andreas von Bechtolsheim, Vinod Khosla, Bill Joy and Scott McNealy

* 34.200 employees worldwide, 13.9 billion dollars (9.4 billion euros) in revenues FY 2007, market cap (total
value of all Sun shares) about the same as yearly revenues

* Grew astronomically with the Web, suffered from the Web bubble, now profitable over the last four quarters

* Lead by Scott McNealy until 2006, now by Jonathan Schwartz (a prolific blogger)

* The world’s biggest contributor to Open Source: Open Office, Java (now under GPL), GlassFish, NetBeans — and soon MySQL

* Environmentally friendly; large numbers of distributed employees working at least partially from home

* Headquartered in Santa Clara, California, just south of Cupertino (MySQL’s North American headquarters)

* Counts some of the worlds most brilliant innovators amongst its current and past employees

See the line I have bold and italicized. Is it really true ??

M

But will it be GPL v2 or v3. That does matter a lot too. Like they're keen on GPL v3 for Solaris, AFAIK.
Also, even if Sun stops distributing MySQL under GPL then community can pick up from the last GPL'ed code, fork it and maintain it.

mehulved said:
But will it be GPL v2 or v3. That does matter a lot too. Like they're keen on GPL v3 for Solaris, AFAIK.
Also, even if Sun stops distributing MySQL under GPL then community can pick up from the last GPL'ed code, fork it and maintain it.

the line says Sun is one of the biggest contributors to OSF. If thats true, i don't think Sun will stop distributing MySQL under GPL.