Suugest a pc config for Rs 60000

hmm. let's see.

Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition: 13k
Motherboard: GA-MA790FXT-UD5P: 12k or Gigabyte 780G chipset based mobo : 4.5k
RAM: Corsair DDR3 1333MHz 2x2Gb kit: 5k or DDR2 800Mhz 2x2GHz: 3k
HDD: 500Gb x2 Seagate HDD: 5k (better than 1Tb when it comes to data safety)
k/b and mouse: logitech G1 gaming desktop: 1.5k
xbox 360 controller for windows (wired); 1.2k-1.5k
Dell 2409W 24" FullHD display: 13k
Cooler Master Elite 335: 2.5k
Corsair VX650W: 5.5k (not sure though)
APC 1100VA UPS: 4.7k
Samsung DVD burner: 1.1k
Palit GTX275: 13.5k

here is a refined full fledged gaming config with a good soundcard and surround speakers:

1) Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition: 10.2k
2) Motherboard: ASUS M3A78-EM: 5k
3) RAM: Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800Mhz 2x2GHz: 3k
4) GPU: Palit GTX275 Sonic: 14k

total: 32.2k

5) Cabinet: Cooler Master Elite 335: 2.5k
6) PSU:GlacialPower GP-AL650AA: 4.3k (order from lynx-india)
7) HDD: 500Gb Seagate 7200.12 HDD: 2.5k
8) Samsung DVD burner: 1.1k
9) Logitech G1 Gaming desktop: 1.5k

total: 44k

10) ASUS Xonar DX: 4.4k
11) Speakers: Logitech X-540: 5.5k or AL MX-5021: 6.5k
12) Dell 2209W: 9.2k or 2409W: 14k
13) APC UPS: 800VA

11)

I would rather suggest
Intel COREi7 processor(i920) + Intel DX58 motherboard @30K.
2GB DDR3 RAM @3k
500GB HDD from SEAGATE@2.5k
COLLER MASTER cabinet @3k to 4k
rest all of ur choice. in 20K

^^if he spends 10.5k for GPU like GTX260, he will be left with 10k everythying else including a monitor which is not at all possible!!!

core i7 not possible, fo for desiibonds config

I think u can go for Samsung 2233sw monitor.....

desiibond said:

^^if he spends 10.5k for GPU like GTX260, he will be left with 10k everythying else including a monitor which is not at all possible!!!

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Ya I agree to that, but I believe that if he wants to upgrade INTEL system(as he recommends INTEL system) tomorrow, then he wold be left with no choice but to go for COREi7. So better to invest slightly more now.

What you are suggesting him is all AMD based systems, which is of lesser priority for him compared to INTEL.

I would not suggest you Core I7 system now. Very shortly Intel is going to release Core I5 mainstream processors based on [FONT=verdana,geneva] Lynnfield architecture. It is based on LGA 1156 socket based on P55 chipset. So none of the today's Core I7 M/Bs are going to support the new Processors from Intel.
So I think AMD would be a better option at that point of time.[/FONT]

If u want to spend 60k after all,go for nothing less than INTEL core i7......
Nothing beats it currently....

Cilus said:

I would not suggest you Core I7 system now. Very shortly Intel is going to release Core I5 mainstream processors based on [FONT=verdana,geneva] Lynnfield architecture. It is based on LGA 1156 socket based on P55 chipset. So none of the today's Core I7 M/Bs are going to support the new Processors from Intel.
So I think AMD would be a better option at that point of time.[/FONT]

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hmm. afaik,core i9 supports LGA1366 which means once the current rig gets old, core i9 will be ready. So, my choice is core i7 for that budget.

Here's a PIC of CPU scores. Green are AMD
*i25.tinypic.com/oqek1v.png

Also there is a configuration suggestion.

YOU BETTER SPEND MORE MONEY IN MONITOR THAN UR CONFIG - A CPU + MOBO of UNDER 15 K is MORRE than enough for regular PC USAGE (including gaming, movies etc.,)

--> Its better to buy a inexpensive VALUE FOR MONEY CPU + MOBO now and then upgrade regularly - cause even the futuristic/high end CPUs will hog in future.

--> But there is no performance degrade for quality monitors and speakers.

Go for Dell's 2209WA 22" monitor e-IPS for 16k or wait until a cheap 24" IPS/VA panel hits the market!

How about this config?

Q8400, MSI P43, 4GB RAM, 1 TB HDD, GTS 250 512mb, LG DVDRW, Microsoft KB/Mouse, Zebronics Black Jack, Corsair/ Cooler master PSU

8750+3800+2500+4500+7245+1075+700+2400+3600 = 34570

Keep the remaing 25,430 for good monitor, great speaker and sound card.

Q8400 is very poor in handling games. Better pay 2k more for X4 940 and save in motherboard. That will give lot better VFM.

btw, you sure about X4 965's benchmarks. They are not at all in the zone for that processor.

Here's an updated table.
Gaming scores added. Test Rig mentioned.

*i28.tinypic.com/2hn594y.png

As you can see, Q8400 clearly beats X940. So Q8400 is better solution.
And desiji, its not X4965 - it is X49650!

@emmarbee.. he's not going to play games at 1024x768 or 1280x1024 res.. no body plays at that res when one is having a budget of Rs 60l.. Q8400 sux.. 4 MB L2 cache.. moreover no virtualization support..
Q8400-two cores fused together
X4940 - true quad core

Q8400 - 4 MB L2 Cache
X4940 - 6 MB L3 Cache

and moreover Phenom II X4 940 overclocks like hell.. just go online and see the results..

Go for desibond's amd rig for your budget.

@emmarbee, I am damn sure that X4 940 easily beats Q8400. It actually is neck-to-neck with Q9450 and if you say Q9450 is better for virtualization and AV editing over X4 940, I do accept that (given Q9450 supports virtualization).

sorry btw, I misread X49650.

also, what hellknight said is true. Who is going to play gaming on 1024x768 resolution when he/she gets a 60k rig. That would be the worst thing to do in computing world!!!

I am damn sure that X4 940 easily beats Q8400

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Isn't that obvious?

*www.desktopreview.com/default.asp?newsID=721&Review=Intel+Core+2+Quad+Q8400+CPU+Quad+Core

Arey my AMD 720 BE beats the he'll out of q6600 in every department and Q6600 beats Q8400 then it is obvious that AMD 940 BE beats the crap out of Q8400 and is almost at par with Q9450!!!

@hellknight - These test scores are just to compare mate; Of course he's not going to play in a 4:3 aspect raio in a 16:9/16:10 monitor.

@desiibond - on what conditions does X940 beats Q8400?
And you too? Cant you see that these scores are just to compare the CPUs and not to know the FPS of games that he is going to play!

@hellknight - E8400 beats Q6600; Q6600 beats E8500; E8400 beats Q9550; WTH? Be specific!
In which app does 720BE beats Q8400? Cause for different apps different conditions - few may use multi cores, some may not.
Like games - there aren't much games that use all the cores EFFECTIVELY. ONLY THE CLOCK SPEED MATTERS when it comes to games!

Also Hellknight, don't compare the CLOCK SPEED, CACHE of INTEL & AMD conclude which is better - cause the proof the pudding is in eating!

2.4GHZ, 4mb L2 intel MAY outrun 2.6 GHZ, 6 MB L2 cache for ex.

@emmarbee, the resolution at which testing is done matters a lot. If you take CPUs or GPUs the real strength of powerful chips becomes visible when you crank up the resolution. that's why we don't recommend core i7+GTX275 for those who use a 15" or 17" display. They are meant for fullHD stuff, be it gaming or video editing.

@desiibond - ya thats kinda true. I've seen it a lot in tomshardware's charts! Different cards will be at top at different settings and resolutions. Like some card could handle the Anti Aliasing and Filtering (probably cards with more memory) and some couldn't handle them!

Okay then, I'll look for scores of practical resolutions and try to post it here!

Here you go - comparison b/w q8400 and X940 by Anandtech
*www.anandtech.com/bench/default.as...36.37.38.39.40.41.42.43.44.45.46.47.48.49.50#

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Why do we compare Q8400 with X4940? Its way costlier than Q8400.
Q8400 costs 8750 and X4940 costs around 10350. So obviously it beats the Q8400.

Here's a genuine comparison. Q8400 vs X4810 (8350 RS.)

*www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?p=89&p2=82

^^oh yes, you do can compare Q8400 with X4 940. Because when you pitch in mobo, Q8400+P45 will be same as X4940+780G in price.

Also, am not sure how that anandtech comparision you did came up because their full comparison between these two processors showed X4 940 having lead in almost all the benchmarks.

total benchmarks done: 21
X4 940 lead: 15
Q8400 lead: 6
and only two games were tested in this review. If they did wide range of games at good resolutions, the difference would've been much more.

*www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3559&p=1

Anyways, in this case, I would recommend either a Phenom II X4 or atlest Core2Quad 9450.

Q8400 is old and also Q series did not do too well and expected by Intel except the high end one's Q9450 and so! So i would suggest X4 940 any day above Q8400 unless if the OP is going for a Q9450 or Q9650. But that make the budget go up as they are still expensive in the market.

Yeah if you want Intel then go for Q9450 or Q9550.. those are awesome..

Desiibond - ur pick on motherboards isn't fair!
For Intel you picked P45 instead of P43 which is a lot cheaper, but then I thought its because, P45 is the one used in the BENCHMARK above mentioned. But if that was the reason, you should've picked 790FX board right? Not 780G!!! I guess it makes a lot of difference in Price???

SO again, NO COMPARISON BETWEEN Q8400 and AMD X940! Q8400 is still a worthy contender also considering the fact that the OP prefers Intel (like me).

Even I do the same thing, if the AMD outruns Intel only a SMALL difference in performance/price then I'd definitely go for Intel - won't mind spending a bit extra for INTEL logo.

And as in the case of VIDEO CARD, I've suggested the OP to go for ATI RADEON (which I don't like a bit) just because some of the models are way better in price/performance ratio.
4870 clocked at 770 (9k) is way better than GTS250 clocked at 738 (8.7K) - thats why i recommended him 4870 radeon.
But I'd still prefer the NVIDIA card - i know i'm dumb. But I like nvidia sitting inside my pc than some ATI s***!

^another ATI and AMD basher

@emarbee, the phenom 2 x4 920, 940 and 955 and whatever other x4 they have beats the q8400 easily...stick to it...

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Desiibond - ur pick on motherboards isn't fair!
For Intel you picked P45 instead of P43 which is a lot cheaper, but then I thought its because, P45 is the one used in the BENCHMARK above mentioned. But if that was the reason, you should've picked 790FX board right? Not 780G!!! I guess it makes a lot of difference in Price???

SO again, NO COMPARISON BETWEEN Q8400 and AMD X940! Q8400 is still a worthy contender also considering the fact that the OP prefers Intel (like me).

Even I do the same thing, if the AMD outruns Intel only a SMALL difference in performance/price then I'd definitely go for Intel - won't mind spending a bit extra for INTEL logo.

And as in the case of VIDEO CARD, I've suggested the OP to go for ATI RADEON (which I don't like a bit) just because some of the models are way better in price/performance ratio.
4870 clocked at 770 (9k) is way better than GTS250 clocked at 738 (8.7K) - thats why i recommended him 4870 radeon.
But I'd still prefer the NVIDIA card - i know i'm dumb. But I like nvidia sitting inside my pc than some ATI s***!

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Typical Fanboy talk!

As amitash said any X4 thumps Q8400 easily! So Q8400 should be out of the question. Also about that mobo, i think P45 are a hell of a lot more expensive than even 790GX boards. There is a factor of budget also you know. I think, Biostar TA790GXB is a good board and very good performer at only 4.2K! Now that's "Value For Money"!!!

true. 790GX's price starts at 5.5k and that too it's a CF board. in case P43 is to be compared with, we have 740G which is availble for some 3k.

P43 <-> 740G
P45/G45 (Non-crossfire) <-> 780G
P45 (with CF) <-> 790FX/GX

in all three segments, there is no match for ATI's chipset.

The only thing ahead of 790FX/GX boards would be the X48 motherboards of Intel. But that's throwing your budget out of the window. They all need DDR3 (and we all know, how expensive DDR3 is with a little improvement in performance) and are SLI/CF ready. Those mobo's cost around 12K-15K. That's not VFM now, is it??? So at this point of time we can say an AMD rig is better. For Intel, lets say we have to wait for i3 and i5 to be launched, which is being postponed till Jan 2010, due to recession.