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It's a matter of taste, but since you want something FAST, EASY and SECURE go for Ubuntu
See this
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91680

For a migrator from Windows XP, I recommend Ubuntu Gnome. Wait a month for the Interpid Ibix release though - its worth the wait, since its comming this October, just in time for the diwali festivities. Till then, read up some documentation from ubuntu's website, ubuntu.com.

Ubuntu

But if you need faster... then try Arch Linux.

I suggest Ubuntu, but I have recently migrated back to Windows XP due to personal reasons(and not OS reasons)

I suggest Ubuntu, but I have recently migrated back to Windows XP due to personal reasons(and not OS reasons)

thanks people. only if i would have gotten that thread earlier i would have never posted this thread. NucleusKore's tutorial for dual boot with ubuntu seems a easy for a newbie like me...

also if i install Ubuntu will i be able to modify it to make it look like a Mac? what would i need to do for that?

thanks i cant wait.. its too tempting.. linux is.

Desperado said:

thanks people. only if i would have gotten that thread earlier i would have never posted this thread. NucleusKore's tutorial for dual boot with ubuntu seems a easy for a newbie like me...

also if i install Ubuntu will i be able to modify it to make it look like a Mac? what would i need to do for that?

thanks i cant wait.. its too tempting.. linux is.

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Yes Ubuntu can be modified to look like a Mac, Google for Mac4Lin (And yes Mac4Lin is created by a Digit forum member, Infra_Red_Dude). Mac4Lin is kinda a transformation pack.

Ubuntu is one of the easiest linux distro available (thanks to its documentation!). Wel-Come to world of Linux!

thanks QM.
i ll look it up...

my last and final concern.. do any of sify braodband users have issues going online in Linux?
will i be able to use ARES?

please say yes

Ubuntu Gnome 8.04 for sure! I had no idea of linux prior to few days. Thanks to this community, I learnt to partition, install and use linux. I also have installed Suse 11 besides XP and Ubuntu.

Suse 11 is riddled with problems, Ubuntu rocks (select gnome desktop). I have not encountered any problem with Ubuntu...it is smooth like makkan.

Ever since, I use only Ubutu and go to XP only when portability is required...otherwise it is Ubuntu all the time.. GO FOR IT and you shalt enjoy.

Welcome to the world of Linux. May the force be with you
For a migrator, I'd suggest either Ubuntu or OpenSUSE as they are very newbie friendly

It works on WINE

*img142.imageshack.us/img142/8266/heroci2.th.png*img142.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif

Even the audio player

HOla Peeps i am back!

1) ANyone heard of Wubi Installer. it sounds really easy but i have my reservations. does anyone have any opinion on Wubi or an experience??

*wubi-installer.org/screenshots.php#ubuntushots

2) Also,
a question to NucleusKore
I have an 80 GB Harddrive divided into 4 partitons namely: C:, D:, E: and F: with 19.5 Gb each

Windows is installed on C:
so does that mean i can simply install Ubuntu on my D: partition after formatting it? or do i still have to re-partition. i am a lil confused after reading all those dual boot threads.


3) And suppose Ubuntu is installed on my D: drive then can i store files (mostly movies) on my C: (xp) , E: and F: and access them without any hassles?

Please bear with me.

hold your scythe with you as linux is no game

Yup you can simply install on D:. May be you would like to have a swap partition too.

But remember since your each partition is of same size you may get confused in selecting right partition in linux partitioner.

just post a screenshot of your drive in Disk Management. (right click my computer > manage > disk)

Wubi will not give you the real linux experience. Its like playing safe and looking to be cool.

Yes you can access any partition from ubuntu. Be it ntfs, Fat32, zfs, xfs, reiserfs, ext3 etc. Linux has much support

thanks for the quick reply T.
I am at my office right now. Will post a scrnshot after i break my fast at home.

i have decided to skip Wubi after reading this:
"2. Performance boost: There is a slight hard drive performance penalty in a Wubi install due to the usage of virtual disks. While it shouldn't be noticeable in everyday usage, if you regularly edit and copy large files, such as in movie editing, there should be a speed improvement if you transfer your Wubi install to a dedicated partition."

and i think now Nucleuskores tutorial will be my bible when i give Linux a go. ill follow just that.



Thanks a lot T.

you look like some kinda die hard person, am sure you can manage linux

Thnks T

i am still a little unclear and confused with the partitioning... though i would need a swap partition too i guess in spite of 1.4 Gb RAM

1) After i select MANUAL here: *img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xp20lu4.png

2) In my case i have 20 GB on D:/ drive so ... i dunno if the same instructions will apply to me as well a) here : *img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xp21rn6.png

here: b) *img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xp22ze6.png

and here c) : *img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xp23lt3.png

Can someone patient enough give me directions according to my case.

ok the only thing will be that if you havent deleted the 20GB partition from windows then you will see a 20GB ntfs (or vfat) type partition with some naming like /dev/sda4 etc.

So just select it by clicking and then delete it. Once deleted it will be named as free space.

Now you can follow from second image. posted in your post.

remember the naming goes like this
/dev/sda1 where "sd is the hard disk" and "a denotes that it is first HDD in bios" and "1 is the first partition on that disk"

similarly /dev/sdb3 will denote second hard disk with 3rd partition on it.

Thnks again T.

Heres the screen shot you asked for.

*i34.tinypic.com/2eovh9t.jpg

i want to install Ubuntu on D:/
now only if i get to delete the right partition, everything will fall into place.

can you take a guess what my D:/ drive name will appear like? the one that i am supposed to "clicking and then delete it" ???

*fingers crossed*

Desperado said:

HOla Peeps i am back!

1) ANyone heard of Wubi Installer. it sounds really easy but i have my reservations. does anyone have any opinion on Wubi or an experience??

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It's a piece of **** , install the normal way

Desperado said:

2) Also,
a question to NucleusKore
I have an 80 GB Harddrive divided into 4 partitons namely: C:, D:, E: and F: with 19.5 Gb each

Windows is installed on C:
so does that mean i can simply install Ubuntu on my D: partition after formatting it? or do i still have to re-partition. i am a lil confused after reading all those dual boot threads.


3) And suppose Ubuntu is installed on my D: drive then can i store files (mostly movies) on my C: (xp) , E: and F: and access them without any hassles?

Please bear with me.

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Now now wait a minute. Just see these posts on partitioning problems
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?p=937751#40
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92577

I would recommend
1. Delete the last partition, which must be F in your case, check in the Disk Management System (Start->Control Panel->Administrative Tools->Computer Management)
2. Reboot with the Linux CD and make logical partitions as i have suggested in my tutorial:
You can make 1 GB swap, followed by 7 GB / (that means root) and the remaining /home

Hey I cannot see the images, is it only me or the images are corrupted??

even i cant see images,

yup you can always install on last partition without any hassles.

see my similar thread desperado
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=97398
...im running Kubuntu fine now

thanks T, NK and sumit.

i will try this over the weekend. but i would still want Ubuntu on D: /

the screenshot is here: *i34.tinypic.com/2eovh9t.jpg

so if i wud want it on D:/ drive..
as i understand.. before starting the installation with the CD..
i go to computer management... disk managment.. >> delete D:/ drive

(proceed with installation of ubuntu...)

.....Select free space and click on the "New Partition"

...Select type of partition LoGICAL, size 1.5 times your RAM(1024 in my case; or shud it be 3 GB?)

...location for new partition "Begining"

..Use as: "swap area" and click OK

Again select free space and click New Partition. Select type of partition logical, size 8000 MB or more, location for new partition Begining, Use as: Ext 3 journaling file system, mount point: / and click OK

and so on...

right?

yup the second time you select the whole free space as you dont want any stray free space for sitting idle. As for the naming, the D: partition will be named as /dev/sda5 anything under extended partition starts from the count of 5. Btw you are using two antiviruses :/

Why do you want to install it in D? Why not in F?

yeaaaaa
all this while i was thinking i have to delete the partition on the installation window of UBUnTU and NOT on disk management.. that was my confusion. guess i missed reading it somewhere. hence, wanted to know wht name will appear for my D: drive so tht i can delete just D:/
sorry for being such a bunny.

and yep i am using two AVs. i had norton and nod32 earlier.. nod32 would just sit there detecting nothin on real time. and NOrton is good for instant scans. i usually turn off norton autoprotect. i am really happpy with Avira its the D man!

and yep NK
D: and E: just has movies and songs which are already backed up on dvds.

F: has too many things.. not comfortable moving it anywhere
but if you can convince me, i will

^^ arre yar kyun itna jhaam kar rela hai

1. Download Ubuntu Hardy Heron 8.0.4
2. Install Paragon Partition Manager on windows
3. Move ur last partition contents to other drives
4. Open Partition manager and delete F:.... F: shud be arnd 6-7 GB min
5. Boot from Ubuntu CD ...choose manual partition..it will show free space..first make a 1 GB swap (Linux swap) and then give rest as root (Linux ext3 filesystem) ..Dont forget to include " / " in without quotes
6. after that next next next and ur done

Even I learnt all that by experimenting..Back in engg days in 2000,I installed Red Hat Linux 6.0 on my new PC and erased whole C : drive hahahahhaaha !!!

(it was 6 hrs trying to configure Intel 815 MB grafix widout any help)

esumitkumar said:

2. Install Paragon Partition Manager on windows

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What for?? It's Paidware

esumitkumar said:

3. Move ur last partition contents to other drives

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Copy paste through My Computer

esumitkumar said:

4. Open Partition manager and delete F:.... F: shud be arnd 6-7 GB min

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Do that through Disk Management System, it's already there in Windows.

Here i will suggest, Ubuntu Ultimate 1.9, a Linux that can even beat vista hands down (well almost) u just try it and u will never think of anything else... check it out

*ultimateedition.info/Ultimate_Edition_1.9/
*ultimateedition.info/Ultimate_Edition_1.7/Screenshots/system_tools.png

thanks but no thanks.

Ill stick to Ubuntu for now.

once i master Ubuntu i am planning to move to Arch Linux or Slackware.
heard a lot about these two. Will be back to bother you later.

Hopefully my next reply now would be through Ubuntu.

Thank you all for your help. How do i rep you guys?

A friendly advice to you: Never, EVER install these common ubuntu remixes unless you want that particular subset of software, or if you don't have broadband or if you are an absolute 100% newbie to most things linux.

Exceptions include Linux Mint and some distros for *special* situations.

But since you are here, I strongly recommend you to use Ubuntu Gnome and stick to that.
You need around 6-9 months for learning it fully.

If you have a decent modern rig, you might want to stay with ubuntu forever, mainly due to the wide number of software available for it. You also have several niche apps for Ubuntu which are not as easily found for other distros. And the documentation for ubuntu is so good, that you can ALWAYS find the command to install a software, even if its very abstract.

ankushkool said:

Here i will suggest, Ubuntu Ultimate 1.9, a Linux that can even beat vista hands down (well almost) u just try it and u will never think of anything else... check it out

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thumbnails please

alright.!

I have Ubuntu installed on F:/

Now, how do i configure my sify connection on it.

i have tried sify's linux dialer. also msify...
no big help from either...

i am able to ping my gateway successfully.


any ideas plz?

If you are on a broadband connection refer this thread. It's not called the FAQ and made sticky for nothing.

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91680

infact thats the first thing i read.. your tutorial for pppoe. its not for me as i am on "unlimited" plan from sify.

Yes, but you said that you have a sify dialer?? Tell me how do you connect to your sify broadband from windows. Is it through a dialer? Or when you just switch on your pc you're connected automatically?

yup
i use a dialer.

sifybroadband_3.2 version. but thats for windows.

i have tried using wine and installing this dialer ... it just zips by and nothing happens.

hullap said:

thumbnails please

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Check here...

Alternative Sify Dialer
*thegoan.com/supersify(CLI, use this one, as this does not take any Memory)

This works on java, so you need to installed first.

Just CLICK this
It would install Flash,Java,Codecs and all such common things

If you bother to see what it does install

Desperado said:

yup
i use a dialer.

sifybroadband_3.2 version. but thats for windows.

i have tried using wine and installing this dialer ... it just zips by and nothing happens.

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If you use a dialer then follow my tutorial. It should work.

your post has just lifted my spirits.

it looks positive. hopefully should work.

ill try and let you guys know tomorow.

thanks man.

gary4gar said:

Alternative Sify Dialer
*thegoan.com/supersify(CLI, use this one, as this does not take any Memory)

This works on java, so you need to installed first.

Just CLICK this
It would install Flash,Java,Codecs and all such common things

If you bother to see what it does install

Code:

cabextract flashplugin-nonfree gsfonts-x11 gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse jackd java-common liba52-0.7.4 libavcodec1d libavutil1d libcdaudio1 libdvdread3 libfaac0 libfaad2-0 libfreebob0 libgsm1 libid3tag0 libjack0 liblame0 libltdl3 libmad0 libmjpegtools0c2a libmms0 libmp4v2-0 libmpcdec3 libmpeg2-4 libqt3-mt libquicktime1 libsidplay1 libsoundtouch1c2 libx264-54 libxvidcore4 msttcorefonts odbcinst1debian1 qjackctl sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin ubuntu-restricted-extras unixodbc unrar

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Thanks.

that <b>worked</b>!

Like a charm.