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The bet is on! Ubuntu vs. Microsoft.

32 posts · originally from https://geek.digit.in/community/threads/the-bet-is-on-ubuntu-vs-microsoft.73319/

kalpik
kalpik Original post #1
Nov 16, 2007 at 8:15 AM
This guy has a bet with a friend. This is the deal: He has to use Ubuntu for 30 days. IF there is anything he can’t do on Ubuntu (except for games which his friend reluctantly conceded is Microsoft turf) that he can do on Vista, then he gets a brand new laptop courtesy of his buddy. IF on the other hand, he loses, he has to pay for his new laptop.

*ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=589243

I've read through the first 95 pages, and this dude has been VERY patient and understanding with ubuntu! I really appreciate that! From what i've read, i think he's gonna loose :D
praka123
Nov 16, 2007 at 8:18 AM
professor fate said:
4. If I can demonstrate that Ubuntu isn’t neck to neck with Microsoft in anyway, I win.
thats where his loss is a win for linux users :p
Gigacore
Nov 16, 2007 at 8:19 AM
lol.. i think this must be CANONICAL vs MICROSOFT!
kalpik
kalpik #4
Nov 16, 2007 at 8:30 AM
Heh.. Guys, i think its better if we leave the bet for those 2 people to handle. I posted this here as an FYI thread, not an FYA thread :p
gxsaurav
Nov 16, 2007 at 10:05 AM
Tell him to play WMA & WMA files on Ubuntu or use a Pinnacle or any other TV Tuner on Linux or play HD DVD & he will loose :D
RCuber
RCuber #6
Nov 16, 2007 at 10:34 AM
^^ unprotected WMA and WMV does play on linux .. HD DVD .. um.. do you want prakash to start his DRM ? :confused: .. and USB Tuner ... hell yea... it doesnot work ...atleast with mine :p
Cool G5
Cool G5 #7
Nov 16, 2007 at 10:38 AM
A tough challenge.Let's see the results.Intresting thread. :)
ray|raven
Nov 16, 2007 at 11:16 AM
Yea,Guess he wont have to pray to god for making M$ release the SP's faster. ;)

Regards,
ray
infra_red_dude
Nov 16, 2007 at 11:25 AM
HD DVD hmmm.. yes. But I don't think its fair to say that his TV Tuner doesn't work in Linux. A fair bet should haf hardware which is either supported well in both the OS or not use the hardware at all.
kalpik
kalpik #10
Nov 16, 2007 at 11:47 AM
gx_saurav said:
Tell him to play WMA & WMA files on Ubuntu or use a Pinnacle or any other TV Tuner on Linux or play HD DVD & he will loose :D
I\'m not going to be a real dick about this. Like, I\'m not going to say, \"Ubuntu doesn\'t have the same font I like, so you lose\". But I do have to be able to do whatever I do with Vista.
I have some medical software that I can say with certainty would not run on any Linux OS. But that would be a real dickish move on my part to do that. That's not the purpose of the bet as I see it. I'm just doing every day tasks.
So it seems at least some people have some sense of ethics and understanding.. I request you to go through that thread once..
infra_red_dude
Nov 16, 2007 at 12:02 PM
^^^ Fair enough :)

Just browsed through the thread and I must say, that guy is one of the most sane MS supporters I've seen :)
kalpik
kalpik #12
Nov 16, 2007 at 12:35 PM
Yes! That's what i mentioned in the first post itself! The guy wants to give a very fair chance to Ubuntu! Look at all the trouble he went through to get sound working! I mean even i would have given up if i faced such an issue!
RCuber
RCuber #13
Nov 16, 2007 at 12:44 PM
I forgot to say that my tuner is vista certified and it doesnot work with vista MCE :mad: .. I have to admit that I tried to use that only on Sabayon live CD .. so I havent tried to find the solution :oops:
praka123
praka123 #14
Nov 16, 2007 at 2:38 PM
the thread was locked already @ubuntuforums.digging and linking flooded the forum!now that guy will be blogging his experience :D
[xubz]
[xubz] #15
Nov 16, 2007 at 2:41 PM
*launchpad.net/bugs/1

^Have you guys seen Ubuntu's Bug No. 1? :D
praka123
praka123 #16
Nov 16, 2007 at 2:54 PM
yup.it too was famous.
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FilledVoid #17
Nov 16, 2007 at 5:43 PM
Yes! That's what i mentioned in the first post itself! The guy wants to give a very fair chance to Ubuntu! Look at all the trouble he went through to get sound working! I mean even i would have given up if i faced such an issue!

No fair I did the same things too! :D . Im only stuck with one more issue which I havent really tried to get to work on Ubuntu.

Tell him to play WMA & WMA files on Ubuntu or use a Pinnacle or any other TV Tuner on Linux or play HD DVD & he will loose

Actually I recall that yuo can play WMA files on Ubuntu. Furthermore Pinnacle TV Tuner cards work on Ubuntu (at least most of them, the USB ones are a pain but I think the rest would work even if they are using a Philips 713x chipset) . As for HD DVD it works in Feisty Fawn so my guess would be naturally that it would work in Gutsy.
praka123
praka123 #18
Nov 16, 2007 at 7:36 PM
drmed wma/v files cant play straight on linux :?
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FilledVoid #19
Nov 17, 2007 at 5:55 PM
drmed wma/v files cant play straight on Linux

I'm sorry but wouldn't that be illegal if Linux could play wma/v files directly out of the box? I'm still understanding the ideology behind including in placing wma files in the restricted format list etc.
gxsaurav
gxsaurav #20
Nov 17, 2007 at 7:04 PM
I was not talking about DRMed file. Even my normal WMA files don't play in Ubuntu 7.04, haven't tested 7.10
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Hitboxx #21
Nov 17, 2007 at 8:18 PM
gx_saurav said:
I was not talking about DRMed file. Even my normal WMA files don't play in Ubuntu 7.04, haven't tested 7.10
The problem lies in you ;)

I could play any type(non-protected) of file in my old Fedora 5 lol and still continue to do so on Werewolf.

Interesting thread ^^
M
mehulved #22
Nov 17, 2007 at 10:01 PM
I have 6 wmv files on my PC and can play it without a hitch using mplayer. And I'd give you a screenshot of the same too if it wasn't against the rules.
Kiran.dks
Kiran.dks #23
Nov 17, 2007 at 10:06 PM
kalpik said:
Heh.. Guys, i think its better if we leave the bet for those 2 people to handle. I posted this here as an FYI thread, not an FYA thread :p

Lol! Everyone know the intention of the thread :D FYI or FYA....who cares! Just need a good platform for wrestling in this fightclub.
kalpik
kalpik #24
Nov 17, 2007 at 10:28 PM
gx_saurav said:
I was not talking about DRMed file. Even my normal WMA files don't play in Ubuntu 7.04, haven't tested 7.10
Well i could play WMA/WMV on ubuntu since 6.10..
praka123
praka123 #25
Nov 17, 2007 at 10:33 PM
me too able to play :D
I
Dec 15, 2007 at 9:36 PM
i do programming in VB6 and VB.Net. so i need windows. linux looses here
Faun
Faun #27
Dec 15, 2007 at 10:09 PM
indranilmaulik said:
i do programming in VB6 and VB.Net. so i need windows. linux looses here

yeah u cant live without windows, u r caged*farm3.static.flickr.com/2076/2106529395_26c0b427da_o.png
RCuber
RCuber #28
Dec 16, 2007 at 12:52 AM
indranilmaulik said:
i do programming in VB6 and VB.Net. so i need windows. linux looses here
Welcome to the world of Mono ;)

I was just like you, thinking we cannot program on VB6 or VB.NET in Linux but mono came to the rescue ;)

I have to tell that full api support is not available but still I am impressed with mono :)
phreak0ut
phreak0ut #29
Dec 22, 2007 at 10:39 AM
That thread is really amazing! I'm really glad that he didn't give up just like that. Many people would just want to win the laptop, fair or not. Atleast I would! :p :D This is guy is really cool. I really appreciate it. I hope my Windows fanboy friend was also like him :)
S
Dec 30, 2007 at 7:33 AM
Though amateur, I'm damn interested in Open source and power to customize everything. But look at what i've recently forced to do. I totally rely on digit mag to give all the linux/open source materials, and how they pay for my loyalty? by giving me damaged disc and not replying to my inquiries. (Look at this months Ubuntu DVD, for example).
On the other hand Microsoft has recently offered me a membership at MSDNAA promising to give all the liscence to use their products free of cost(except OFFICE 07) and an MS-visual studio '05 CD for just one dollar. now what would I (or everyone else) do? Quite simple, Accept it. Now they're gonna keep me busy with more of their silly offerings and incouraging me to use only microsoft softwares, keeping me away from anything open source. I can't afford to decline their offerings and i know their major target is to brain drain taking our ideas and using them.
infra_red_dude
Dec 30, 2007 at 5:03 PM
^^^ Order free Ubuntu CDs from Canonical or get in touch with the LUG. You can get almost any Linux Distro.
praka123
praka123 #32
Dec 30, 2007 at 5:18 PM
you can ask in the sticky thread in Open Source Section for sharing CDs/DVD's provided u pay for the media and courier charges.