:: The Formula 1 - 2007 Season Thread ::

really waiting for the season to begin .....lets hope ferrari wins this season.....Lets pray for massa......

Go Ferrari !!!!!

Ferrari lead the way in Melbourne [Friday Practice]

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Five teams in the top six hints at a close race in prospect


Ferrari team mates Felipe Massa and Kimi Raikkonen set the pace in Friday’s second practice for the Australian Grand Prix. However, with McLaren’s Lewis Hamilton, Renault’s Giancarlo Fisichella and BMW Sauber’s Nick Heidfeld all close behind, the Italian team look unlikely to have things all their own way this weekend.

Following the morning’s damp opening session, there were a few anxious moments over the lunch break when the skies over Albert Park went grey. However, practice resumed on a dry track with BMW Sauber’s Robert Kubica and Williams’ Nico Rosberg taking over their regular mounts from their respective test team mates Sebastian Vettel and Kazuki Nakajima.

This time Massa set the pace initially with 1m 28.582s, lowering that to 1m 28.111s as the McLarens chased after him. Once again Hamilton was highly impressive, looking smooth and calm as he shadowed Fernando Alonso’s times only a couple of tenths down.

The Spaniard had just set the fastest lap of 1m 28.040s (compared to Hamilton’s 1m 28.251s) when Rubens Barrichello’s Honda snapped away from him in the last corner before tapping the outside wall.

After a 15-minute red flag period - in which Heikki Kovalainen’s stricken Renault was also collected from Turn 4, whence it had ground to a halt at the same time - things resumed with Massa banging in a 1m 27.868s lap to go fastest from Heidfeld’s 1m 27.970s for BMW. Massa subsequently lowered his time to 1m 27.353s, which remained the fastest overall. Hamilton followed him with 1m 27.829s which stood him second fastest until Kimi Raikkonen got going to ease ahead of the McLaren with 1m 27.750s, just as Fisichella moved to fourth on 1m 27.941s, just ahead of Heidfeld. Gripping stuff!

Unfortunately for Renault, Fisichella’s car then also stopped, also in Turn 4. It’s an unusual day when neither Renault is around at the finish. In both cases the team blamed fuel pressure problems , the causes of which are being investigated.

Right at the end, Alex Wurz jumped his Williams up to sixth with 1m 27.981s, leaving Alonso seventh on his 1m 28.040s ahead of Rosberg, who also improved at the end for 1m 28.055s. Robert Kubica was ninth for BMW on 1m 28.281s, with David Coulthard rounding out the top 10 for Red Bull with 1m 28.495s.

In the second half, Honda’s ‘B team’ beat their ‘A team’, Anthony Davidson beating Super Aguri team mate Takuma Sato after lapping his SA07 in 1m 28.727s compared to the Japanese driver’s 1m 29.009s. That put both ahead of Jenson Button, an unhappy 14th on 1m 29.066s, and Barrichello 15th on 1m 29.542s. To make matters worse for the Japanese manufacturer, Toyota’s Jarno Trulli separated the Super Aguris in 12th place, after a lap in 1m 28.921s.

Toyota’s second car was 16th courtesy of Ralf Schumacher’s 1m 29.574s best, ahead of Mark Webber in the second Red Bull on 1m 29.801s.

Kovalainen’s 1m 30.097s lap left him 18th in the line-up, ahead of the Toro Rossos and Spykers. Scott Speed was the quickest of this quartet on 1m 30.383s, with Adrian Sutil continuing - albeit only just - to show Spyker team mate Christijan Albers the way round. The German lapped in 1m 31.108s, the Dutchman 1m 31.175s.

At the back, Tonio Liuzzi was stranded on 1m 31.693s after his Toro Rosso went off in Turn 14. He made it back to the pits, but did not go out again.

When you look at Jenson Button’s 2006 pole time of 1m 25.229s it’s clear how much the Bridgestone control tyres have slowed things down thus far in 2007.

Source: F1.com news


Kimi & Ferrari All the WAY


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Drivers List corresponding to Last Season Grid Position
The full entry list of constructors and drivers is as follows:

McLaren Mercedes
1 Fernando Alonso (E)
2 Lewis Hamilton (GB) <=First Black Person to Enter F1 Racing.

Renault
3 Giancarlo Fisichella (I)
4 Heikki Kovalainen (FIN)

Ferrari
5 Felipe Massa (BR)
6 Kimi Raikkonen (FIN)

Honda
7 Jenson Button (GB)
8 Rubens Barrichello (BR)

BMW
9 Nick Heidfeld (D)
10 Robert Kubica (PL)

Toyota
11 Ralf Schumacher (D)
12 Jarno Trulli (I)

Red Bull Renault
14 David Coulthard (GB)
15 Mark Webber (AUS)

Williams Toyota
16 Nico Rosberg (D)
17 Alex Wurz (A)

STR Ferrari
18 V Liuzzi
19 S Speed

Spyker Ferrari
20 Christijan Albers (NL)
21 A Sutil

Super Aguri Honda
22 Takuma Sato (J)
23 Anthony Davidson (GB)

Source: www.f1.com

Unfortunately I will miss the 1st race.. I will be in Chennai and I do not get the TV here .....

I am also hoping for the Ferrari to do well this season, they had messed up early races in last season, but since they did well towards the end, I hope they well good in this season too.

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ya ya i know this and already got it, but there is no fun like watching it live,,,,at least on the tv..

thnx for the headsup fellas

M supporting the combo of Kimi+Ferrari!

KIMI Raikkonen (Ferrari) P1

Qualification Result:::

P1 - Kimi Raikkonen (Ferrari)
P2 - F. Alonso (McLaren)
P3 - Nick Heidfield (BMW)
P4 - L. Hamilton (McLaren)
P5 - R. Kubica (BMW)
P6 - G. Fisichella (Renault)
P7 - M. Webber (RBR)
P8 - J.Trulli (Toyota)
P9 - R. Schumacher (Toyota)
P10 - T. Sato (Super Aguri-Honda)


P16 - F. Massa (Ferrari) [Technical Problem with his F2007 Ferrari]

Kimi Raikkonen + Ferrari -> Match made in heaven!!

Alonso + McLaren -> Unholy ALLIANCE!

^^ cool man .....

faraaz said:

Kimi Raikkonen + Ferrari -> Match made in heaven!!

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naaa.......
Alonso + (any team) == Alonso win

Request a mod and add a poll yaar.. Who will win this F1 season...??

if Alonso won the 2005 F1 season, then it was because of McLaren or it would have been Kimi , coz McLaren had horribly UN-RELIABLE car.

why it was horrible is b'coz Kimi lost some Races after retiering, due to technical failure, at the near END of RACE.

almost same scenario in 2006 Season, Michael Schumacher was very UNFORTUNATE b'cos his Ferrari broke down in Suzuka Track, or we'd have seen M.S win another title.

I'm pretty sure kimi is gonna win this time..!! He deserves it..

I bet on Massa. Ferrari got a better car than the last year....and Massa did very well..remember he was 3rd last year. but all boils down how Ferrari will treat Massa, if they choose to support Kimi as the primary driver then Massa will find it difficult.

Hope his car works all right tomorrow....

Muhawhawha , Ferrari showing Kimi's Talent to McLaren

great drive by rookie (noob) driver L.Hamilton to take a Podium in his Debut F1 .

Alonso in Second place thanks to Ron Dennis's tactical head (pits strategy)

hamilton .... nice drive .... and here come the scarlet back to where they belong ... numero uno .... the ice man on the prancing horse ....

Is the race over..??

are we going to see a "Kimi Era" now, just as we saw "Schumi Era".

hope the tyre manufacturer Michelin are brought back, F1 2007 sucks with no Competition in Tyre dept.

if FIA goes making new rules like this, then F1 will become a A1 GP in few years time, 1 Engine maker, 1 Chassis maker, 1 tyre maker, 1.......

Great...!! This year we gonna have a wonderful time.. Kimi and Alonso are gonna show true competition..!!!
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@s18000rpm: The one set of tyres per race rule was also nice. I personally felt that the competition was good then..

yup it was good, but lot of Safety Issues rose b'coz of it, so...

FIA Boss sucks.

WRC Rocks, maybe b'cos that guy "Max Mosley" hasent done much damage in WRC yet

prasad_den said:

@s18000rpm: The one set of tyres per race rule was also nice. I personally felt that the competition was good then..

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it wasnt true competition ... racers concentrated more on conserving their tyres rather than on over taking the racer in front and besides it was also very dangerous ....

1 engine maker ... ferrari, 1 chasis maker ... the 1 who makes for ferrari, 1 tyre manufacturer .... bridgestone .... 1 racer ... bernie eccelstone

there were some threats from Ferrari, McLaren... to FIA, that if they (FIA) de-grade F1 more, they'll start their own Racing Series (similar to F1).

Ferrari make their own Chassis

Whooooooo.......
Massa from 22 to 6.....
simply shows Ferrari's sheer power......

arre toh schumi has done so many times ... evn kimi for mclaren has done that so many times in the last 2 seasons

Yaa, agree with you......
But, even if i hate Ferrari for many reasons, i love them for the only thing---
POWER.........

aha.. raikonnen kickd ass!!
shuda stuck wid mclaren.. wuda been a killer team.. kimi n alonso..

spynic said:

shuda stuck wid mclaren.. wuda been a killer team.. kimi n alonso..

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man.....can't imagine....my dream pair.....

then no fun, no competition.

Kimi ~ Schumi ~ Senna ; Alonso ~ Mika ~ Prost

so these guys sre continuing the age old tradition of RIVALRY

Enjoyed the race...gr8 opening to the season...
the funniest part was the crash of albers due to his own fault...adjusting his earplug thus forgetting to brake!

the Official Results for the lazy a$$es and the unfortunate fellas who missed the match...

Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Points
1 6 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 58 0.059360764 1 10
2 1 Fernando Alonso McLaren-Mercedes 58 +7.2 secs 2 8
3 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 58 +18.5 secs 4 6
4 9 Nick Heidfeld BMW 58 +38.7 secs 3 5
5 3 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 58 +66.4 secs 6 4
6 5 Felipe Massa Ferrari 58 +66.8 secs 22 3
7 16 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 57 +1 Lap 12 2
8 11 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 57 +1 Lap 9 1
9 12 Jarno Trulli Toyota 57 +1 Lap 8
10 4 Heikki Kovalainen Renault 57 +1 Lap 13
11 8 Rubens Barrichello Honda 57 +1 Lap 16
12 22 Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda 57 +1 Lap 10
13 15 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 57 +1 Lap 7
14 18 Vitantonio Liuzzi STR-Ferrari 57 +1 Lap 19
15 7 Jenson Button Honda 57 +1 Lap 14
16 23 Anthony Davidson Super Aguri-Honda 56 +2 Laps 11
17 20 Adrian Sutil Spyker-Ferrari 56 +2 Laps 20
Ret 17 Alexander Wurz Williams-Toyota 48 Accident 15
Ret 14 David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 48 Accident 18
Ret 10 Robert Kubica BMW 36 Gearbox 5
Ret 19 Scott Speed STR-Ferrari 28 Wheel 17
Ret 21 Christijan Albers Spyker-Ferrari 10 Accident 21


Fastest Lap: Kimi Räikkönen 1:25.235
Official Result
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News:
Kimi Raikkonen became the first Ferrari driver since Nigel Mansell in 1989 to win on his debut with the legendary Italian team on Sunday, barely putting a wheel wrong in the season-opening Australian Grand Prix. His only problems were one minor off when he lost concentration on lap 46, and the lack of a radio throughout the race.

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literally a perfect drive by Kimi on his debut.....and Ferrari is really looking good this season....still i dont think that Mclaren can produce this type of performance on all the coming races......

Ferrari quietly confident yet again


We take a closer look at how the teams fared on Friday

06 April 2007



Kimi Raikkonen added fuel to Ferrari’s fire on Friday when, despite setting the fourth-fastest time (1m 36.160s) within four-tenths of a second of team mate Felipe Massa (1m 35.780s) in the second practice session, he revealed that he was not happy with his F2007’s performance.

He also reported that, in general, the two Bridgestone tyre specifications (soft and hard for ease of commentary, but actually in the overall perspective of the company’s 2007 offerings, the medium and hard compounds) weren’t a million miles apart, and that he would not, after all, need an engine change.

“The car feels reasonably okay but I’m not 100 percent happy,” he said. “We learned things but there is still work to do. The car felt different to the way it did here last week, the set-up was not as good as it was. The grip’s slightly different.”

Most felt the same as the high track and ambient temperatures hurt grip significantly. Where Renault and Williams got a handle on things, completing the top six with Ferrari, McLaren appeared to struggle while doing a lot of evaluation of both compounds.

... read More @ F1.com


"One Tyre Supplier" move has started to show its effects

it sucks

Friday Practice session-
1. Felipe Massa, Ferrari (1st, 1m 34.972s):

2. Fernando Alonso, McLaren (2nd, 1m 35.220s)

3. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren (3rd, 1m 35.712s)

4. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari (4th, 1m 35.779s)

good news for us Ferrari fans....

its a good & bad news

Massa 1st, but Kimi 4th, inbetween two McLarens

arey no problem we can beat the mclarens......

a quote from "Live Timing"

"A Titanic Battle here between the McLarens & Ferrari's"


Quali. Result

1. Massa
2. Alonso
3. Kimi
4. Hamilton
5. Heidfield
6. Rosberg
7. Kubica
8. Trulli
9. Ralfy
10. Webber

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(read the commentary on right pane in pic)

see the time difference between Kimi & Alonso , at one point, their Lap time matced perfectly




Damn this cable operator cut the Star Sports just when Q1 session was going to end.

Pretty impressive showing from Massa...but Hamilton is bloody amazing too...hmm...

edit: PS: @S18000rpm -> MINE TOO!!!!! Luckily my girlfriend has that Tata SKY digital TV so I could run over to her place to catch the last few minutes of qualifying!

i hope this Cable operator puts back Star Sports today itself.

while the Quali was going on, a msg. was shown in centre of TV screen - "LARGE Payment DUE..."

hope these stupid ppl pay that Money & put SS back

pity.....no good results for Renault.........

this is turning out to be a Bad week for us Ferrari & Man UTD fans.......
Massa Blew the race win for Ferrari...... *www.feebleminds-gifs.com/smiley-faces20.gif

Race Result.
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1st i missed the F1 on TV (frequent cable cut), then dataone was not working , really bad unlucky day for me & Ferrari

Massa should be cool, why get tensed by a NOOB (even if he's better), he should have just maintained his cool, running off the track & loosing 1st place :aargh:

if M.S was there, then he would have GUIDED Massa to podium finish.

arey stupid Massa blewed the race win for us..........just gave way to Alonso and hamilton.......and then couldnt overtake Hamilton.*s35.photobucket.com/albums/d189/dimebar_probably/Smileys/th_chainsaw.gif

feel like killing Massa currently.....damn

next Race fresh engine, so no "water sh1t in engine" problem for Kimi & i hope next race they sort out the car's performance problem

well the car performance was alright but just that Massa couldnt use it to 100%...and Kimi was driving really good.......

Massa underpressure from Kimi's Performance

Kimi too had prblm with the car & tyre

He also reported that, in general, the two Bridgestone tyre specifications (soft and hard for ease of commentary, but actually in the overall perspective of the company’s 2007 offerings, the medium and hard compounds) weren’t a million miles apart, and that he would not, after all, need an engine change.

“The car feels reasonably okay but I’m not 100 percent happy,” he said. “We learned things but there is still work to do. The car felt different to the way it did here last week, the set-up was not as good as it was. The grip’s slightly different.”

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Alonso and Hamilton are much better than Ferrari Noobs

Calling Kimi a noob is like calling yourself a fool....

Rankings show who is the noob

Felipe Massa is the reason Kimi Raikkonen did not win the Malaysian Grand Prix. Simple as that. Dumbass couldn't overtake Hamilton for half the race, spun off the road and finally let Raikkonen pass after wasting so much time...

Why the **** is he driving for Ferrari anyway?

even narain would have done better than massa...where's kimi's pace????

@faraaz, coz he's friend of Ferrari's Boss's son *www.gtaforums.com/html//emoticons/tounge.gif

@Vimal, btw if Kimi is a noob then the Arsenal Team are the BIGGEST NOOBS. *www.gtaforums.com/html//emoticons/tounge.gif

he's no. 2 (rank) for your kind Information

Ferrari didnt just chose him blindly , he is the only [ONLY] replacement for M.Schumacher.

dursleyin said:

this is turning out to be a Bad week for us Ferrari & Man UTD fans.......
Massa Blew the race win for Ferrari...... *www.feebleminds-gifs.com/smiley-faces20.gif

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hey smiley xtra freak....*www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/mittelgrosse/medium-smiley-064.gif
its amazing....that im also a ferrari fan...looks like we like to support red..

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Lool I thought Massa was a good driver
PS:I agree Arsenal are noobs too

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dont u support bmw... ur avatar?

ssk429 said:

hey smiley xtra freak....*www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/mittelgrosse/medium-smiley-064.gif
its amazing....that im also a ferrari fan...looks like we like to support red..

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yes we do......but red is not my fav. color...its just becuz of the teams.....to greats....

ssk429 said:

dont u support bmw... ur avatar?

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thats for the road cars

i do support BMW & Kubica.

if BMW made their own F1 car, then i'd have given them full support.

but still BMW makes the most powerful engines & fastest package.
but the car lets down BMW team (Sauber's part).

so u support teams which create their cars on their own...its the same with me

a good and a bad weekend for me. Good bcoz Alonso won......

bad bcoz i have a bad fever.......going to sleep.........

still missing Renault.....

*smileys.on-my-web.com/signer/temp/460219001176045124-final.gif BRO & then play Game Cube.






[P.S. the later part's just a joke ]

man.. i waited six damn years for this.. MCLAREN 1-2!!!
and for all those whining that massa blew the race, wtf was kimi doing.. lewis overtook him too..
heh... this F1 season is gonna be a rocker...

well dude kimi was caught up behind Massa......therefore he lost the hand on Lewis........i m damn sure if kimi was in Massa's place...we could have seen Ferrari finish 2nd .................

second? Kimi would have finished first. Ferrari is really really missing Schumi. If Schumi was in Kimi's position, he would have overtook Massa and Lewis inside 10 laps, overtake Alonso by the end of fist pit stop and win the race.

Renault is definitely missing Alonso.

I was surprised to see both the McLaren cars finish two races in a row. I think that never happened last year.

I have a feeling this year is McLaren's year....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! This most unholy thing MUST NOT HAPPEN!

Impossible. McLaren is not gonna win the championship this year. It's gonna be Kimi and Ferrari.

I think that McLaren car, though is reliable right now will have reliability issues later on in the season.

VD17 said:

man.. i waited six damn years for this.. MCLAREN 1-2!!!
and for all those whining that massa blew the race, wtf was kimi doing.. lewis overtook him too..
heh... this F1 season is gonna be a rocker...

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Massa is in a way the culprit, 1st he lost Pole Position, then Massa's car was faster than Kimi's, its just Massa is under BIG pressure, from his Team Mate's reputation & he had a terrible start for the season's first race.

Kimi just waited behind Massa in the initial stage coz Massa's car was more competitive, so he was giving Hamilton the chase which unfortunately didnt go as planned (going off-track), by that time it was a bit too late for Kimi to challenge Alonso & Hamilton.

btw this is just two Races man, there's lot more to go , lets wait & see.

yeah. it was Massa's error that costed too much for Ferrari.

Looks like massa has trouble overtaking other cars. He stayed behind BMW of Nick for the entire race. He should be more aggressive and more controlled. Right now, he is either being aggressive or controlled.

Massa is under enormous pressure after schumi leaving f1.......the team should talk with both the racers...cuz kimi is showing his cool in Ferrari which he didnt show to McLaren.......

yes. Massa is trying to be the Ferrari No.1 driver. He should provide more support to Kimi (the way Barrichello supported Schumi).

that's the problem guys....if a team(Ferrari) gets 2 reputed drivers with none as a team lead, either of them will not tend to provide support to the other(like the way Hamilton did to Alonso), instead both try to win the race in their own way......

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2007 F1 GP Malaysia: Hamilton VS Massa

Massa blew it ALL UP for both himself & Kimi

Kimi could have got past Hamilton in the initial stage, but Massa got his CHANCE but saala track ke baahar chala gaya.

Loool Hamilton made Ferrari guys look like nooobs

yeah.

Lewis Hamilton - tomorrow's legend. The way he soaked pressure from Ferrari's in his second F1 is totally awesome. Don't forget that he is GP2 winner and has loads of talent.

Dear Ferrari, Please dump Massa and take Lewis for the next season

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Formula 1 (Round 2, 2007) Start

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F1 - Malaysia GP 2007 - Start - Kubica and Heidfeld
(near escape, what if that carbon fibre hit his Helmet Visor?)

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F1 - 360 turn Stunt

Both Kimi Raikkonen and Felipe Massa believe Ferrari will re-emerge as the grid’s strongest team in Bahrain this Sunday, despite McLaren’s dominant one-two for Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton at last weekend’s Malaysian Grand Prix.

Raikkonen came home third behind the triumphant McLaren pair at Sepang. Blighted by concerns over the durability of his engine - which had suffered a water leak in the previous round in Australia - Raikkonen was left unable to challenge second-placed Hamilton as hard as he would have liked. With a new V8 in his F2007 for the Bahrain Grand Prix, however, the Finn is confident his pace will improve.

“We will get a new fresh engine to Bahrain,” Raikkonen told Ferrari’s official website. “That makes me feel very optimistic. When we have our whole package working 100 percent, we should be back to the same speed as what we had in Melbourne. For sure, McLaren has improved, but at least we should be able to challenge them better than in Sepang.”

Massa also struggled during the Malaysian race, despite seizing pole during Saturday’s qualifying. The Brazilian lost two places to the McLarens at the start and a rash passing attempt on Hamilton later on in the Grand Prix resulted in an off-track moment - and the loss of yet more places. He eventually crossed the line in fifth.

“I knew that if I did not pass Lewis as soon as possible, my race was effectively over,” explained Massa. “I said to myself that I did not want to sit behind him, looking at the back of a McLaren for the whole race! If people accuse me of making mistake, I say, yes I did make a mistake, because otherwise I would have been ahead of him. But, I am not disappointed that I tried to pass him.”

Massa’s pole in Sepang, however, was proof of the Italian team’s continued pace and the Brazilian believes he will be in a better position to fight for victory at the Bahrain International Circuit this weekend.

“I will only carry with me the positive things, like the fact I took pole position,” he added. “As usual, I will be trying to win for myself and for Ferrari. I quite like the Bahrain circuit actually. I have always been competitive there and in the winter tests I was fast. Hopefully, we can get a better result in the race on Sunday.”

Ferrari sit second in the constructors’ championship standings on 23 points, nine behind leaders McLaren. Raikkonen is second in the drivers’ standings, on 16 points to Alonso’s 18, while Massa is joint fifth with Renault’s Giancarlo Fisichella on seven.

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no wonder kimi didnt challenge McLarens

source : www.f1.com

Another one of Ferrari's Engine problems

like if McLarens never had a engine problem llooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooll


Mika & Kimi have lost several races at the very LAST Lap looooooooooooool

& btw if you didnt know, Ferrari (kimi) start the Bahrain Grand Prix with new engine

^^I am not advocating Mclaren
Yup I know about that engine thing...but who knows it might Fk up again.Cheapass Ferrari engine caused MS the championship last year

that was due to the new Engine rules (2 years), Ferrari are masters in making engines, but making them last two races was their weak point.

but they DID make the Engine last for 2 races, thats why MS challenged Whineso (Alonso) till Japan.

did you see the LAST race of last season & MS's career???

he went to last position (due to tyre puncture) & then raced (out lapped himself from Massa) to take 4th place.

the BEST Performance in whole F1.

if ONLY there were 5 laps more, then Massa wouldnt have taken his Brasilian win

vimal_mehrotra said:

^^I am not advocating Mclaren
Yup I know about that engine thing...but who knows it might Fk up again.Cheapass Ferrari engine caused MS the championship last year

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MS's engine failure at Japanese GP last year was the Ferrari's first engine failure in three years. For last two years, Ferrari struggled to get perfect aero package for that car. Now that they sorted this out, they are gonna win the Championship.

Ferrari's engine is the most reliable in current F1.

Friday practice - selected driver quotes


Boasting some of the closest times we have seen so far this season, the opening day in Bahrain was action-packed.

Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari (1st, 1m 33.527s):
"It is too early to say where everyone stands, but the performance levels of the top teams seems to be very close. Today, it was difficult to find the right balance of the car, partly because at this track, the wind makes the car difficult to drive. Towards the end of the second session, we found some good settings and now we must keep on that track to find a bit more speed to keep ahead of the rest. But all in all we can be satisfied with the work we have done today."

Lewis Hamilton, McLaren (2nd, +0.013s):
"It has been a positive session today. In the first practice the track was very dirty and slippery so there was no point spending too much time looking at the set-up. In the second session we began our fine tuning and completed a couple of long runs. I think I was quicker and more consistent than previously in the long runs which is positive and there is definitely more to come. We now have quite a bit of data to look at but so far so good."

Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber (3rd, +0.205s):
"The second session was better, but we still have balance problems. We used the spare car for the second practice because this morning I faced the same problems as in Malaysia. This one is more consistent and so now we have to analyse why this happens. We changed the set-up a bit because the car's handling is still not perfect, but things are not looking bad. The track was very dirty, especially in the morning session. When we tested here before Australia we did thirty ones and now we are doing thirty threes, but of course there is some time coming as the rubber goes down as long as there is no rain. If it rains again it will be the same story, and if the wind comes there will be sand on the track and that can change the conditions quite a lot."

Felipe Massa, Ferrari (4th, +0.245s):
"I am pretty happy with the handling of the car, which has allowed me to be very consistent in terms of performance over long runs. We have a good point from which to work over the rest of the weekend. In particular, we have to work on improving our performance on the first lap on new tyres. It all looks very close, but we have everything we need to do well in qualifying and in the race."

Fernando Alonso, McLaren (5th, +0.257s):
"Two trouble-free practice sessions where we made positive progress. The track was very dirty and continued to improve throughout the session. We spent our time perfecting the set-up and evaluating the tyres. I completed some long runs and all in all I think we are closer to the Ferraris than we have been so far this season on a Friday but it’s a long weekend so we will see what happens."


source : www.f1.com

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Qualifying - Saturday 14 April - 16:30 [IST]

damn i think Mclaren has finally developed a good reliable engine ....

yeah. I heard that part of the credit goes to Alonso. He charges up the team, gives him team the perfect engine test details. Is he going to do to McLaren what Schumi did to Ferrari when he(schumi) joined ferrari?

ambandla said:

yeah. I heard that part of the credit goes to Alonso. He charges up the team, gives him team the perfect engine test details. Is he going to do to McLaren what Schumi did to Ferrari when he(schumi) joined ferrari?

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agree with that.. he already is showing signs of doing that... just look at the team.. and look at renault.. Alonso is the perfect replacement for MS, not just as a racer but as a person, as a motivator and as a team member.

But MS was never a cry baby though he had some unsporting moments. But, not a cry baby like Alonso.
And alonso isn't a perfectionist like MS, IMO but can't doubt alonso's capability as a world class racer.

tech_your_future said:

But MS was never a cry baby though he had some unsporting moments. But, not a cry baby like Alonso.
And alonso isn't a perfectionist like MS, IMO but can't doubt alonso's capability as a world class racer.

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thats the reason i like MS - a TRUE Professional , & hate the Whinso (alonso)

he cried soooo much about FIA & Ferrari being fixing the races ...

sheesh

alonso never can be matched with MS. never.

MS is on his own Class & League

ambandla said:

yeah.

Lewis Hamilton - tomorrow's legend. The way he soaked pressure from Ferrari's in his second F1 is totally awesome. Don't forget that he is GP2 winner and has loads of talent.

Dear Ferrari, Please dump Massa and take Lewis for the next season

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SECONDED!!

tech_your_future said:

But MS was never a cry baby though he had some unsporting moments. But, not a cry baby like Alonso.
And alonso isn't a perfectionist like MS, IMO but can't doubt alonso's capability as a world class racer.

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You stole my thoughts....

guys, log off & go sit in front of your TV, just around 10mins left for Quali... to start.

its on ESPN btw.

Massa Pole again....And Hamilton P2......lets see this time what happens.....

Saw a GP qualifying after a very loooooooooong time.

Good to see Mclaren going strong this year. Hamilton is going to get the record for a hat trick of podium finishes. Hope Alonso become a Triple World Champion this year.

dude.. Hamilton has been awesome.. this is by far the best debutante i have seen...

yeah definitely the best debutante i have seen by now.....its just that he is getting the right package to drive...if he was in some other team then the scenario would have been completely different........but he is doing a good job....

Ferrari - McLaren - Ferrari - McLaren

#2 Drivers on top spots & #1 Drivers behind them

Do you guys see something here, Williams Struggling , & they used to Blame BMW for poor performance, (a reason why BMW went out & made its own Team), now BMW is in contention (#3) team with the "All Time Greats", maybe next year BMW will become the New Constructors Champions

yeah lets see bout BMW...they have got a good car though.....

I hope ferrari don't repeat last race again.

Massa does so well in the qualifiers but some how chokes when it comes to the race day. Hope he does a good job today and don't loose his pole position advantage to Mclaren

just 5 minutes to go, i'm outta here

Great Win for Massa...inch perfect race by massa......damn we could have had a ferrari 1,2 finish.....

Kimi not at all good in Overtaking

i'm sooooooooooooooooo happy for BMW

Williams eating BMW's dust , oh wait ... they're eating Renault's dust

man Nick was just cruising around & overtook Alonso, FROM THE OUTSIDE. now is there anything WORSE , disgraceful, shameful in Racing, overtaken from the OutSide

i'd love to see Ferrari 1st, BMW 2nd & McLaren somewhere anywhere in Constructor's chart.

yeah man really that was awesome stuff from Nick Heidfeld to overtake Alonso.....Kimi is having some sort of problems while overtaking.......hope that its not a serious .......BUT Great Finish By MASSA......*img99.exs.cx/img99/8577/yupi3ti.gif

Kimi, Hamilton & Alonso ALL on 22 points

can this season get any better

^^Well its getting better and better for hamilton....

Sad....Alonso 5th..........
but, one thing to cheer.....Hamilton's the best debutant so far.....

good race. Excellent season after looong time. When was the last time that we saw 3 drives taking joint 1st position?

Good comeback by Massa but still he wasn't perfect. If there were 4-5 more laps, Lewis would have won the race.

moreover, looks like there are engine issues with McLaren. Blue smoke coming from the rear or Lewis's car and Alonso saving engine for Spanish GP. This definitely is good news for Ferrari in Barcelona.

posted on 15-04-2007, 10:46 PM

ambandla said:

good race. Excellent season after looong time. When was the last time that we saw 3 drives taking joint 1st position?

Good comeback by Massa but still he wasn't perfect. If there were 4-5 more laps, Lewis would have won the race.

moreover, looks like there are engine issues with McLaren. Blue smoke coming from the rear or Lewis's car and Alonso saving engine for Spanish GP. This definitely is good news for Ferrari in Barcelona.

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no Massa did a good job.

he was just saving his Engine for next race, coz there were Backmarkers (traffic), soooo it's Job well Done by Massa.

Same thing Kimi did, he didnt push while behind Alonso & also Lewis.

he said -
"...following Fernando at the start of the race, that you cannot get past if the guy doesn’t make a mistake, so there was no point to push any more after I couldn’t get past Lewis after my last pit stop, so I took it easy after that. It wasn’t too bad, the car was not too bad in the race, it (the problem) is just more in qualifying."

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*img.youtube.com/vi/wYI6PFNDFrg/2.jpg
Ron Dennis Talks to M. Schumacher
Ron Dennis was trying to lure Schumacher into his team...

seems like Ron Dennis was Drunk

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*img.youtube.com/vi/wYI6PFNDFrg/2.jpg
Ron Dennis Talks to M. Schumacher
Ron Dennis was trying to lure Schumacher into his team...

seems like Ron Dennis was Drunk

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HAHAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

I cant stop laughing.....ron dennis must have been reallly drunk at that time...

slidding down like hell........where had this thread gone?.......keep it alive guys...many F1 fans round here......better make it a sticky....

outdated, but these were the Q/F results:

*www.f1-live.com/f1/en/results/live_flash/index.html

edited='''R A C E''' starts today at 17:30 local time...

If i am not wrong..

its 17:30 local time...!!

Yeah its 5:30PM local time and yeah the "race" starts at that time not the "match"

DAMN

Raikkonen retired on Lap 10.

but Massa still the fastest.

Raikkonen has some jinx he just keeps on retiring no matter which team he races for

his Luck has something to do with his retiremets...i guess

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Paddock Postcard - Schumi, Scheckter & Senna

Most guys here are ferrari fans.Plastic fanboys

Massa slapped Alonso ,,,,, good job Massa.....

(if u [Arsenal_Gunners] r pointing at me)

huh

may i know why u r a Arsenal fan...fanboy

^^They play fkin best football in the world

NOOOO!!! BLASPHEMY!!!! Real Madrid will pwn joo!!!

As for the race...I only support Ferrari cuz Raikkonen is racing for them, so today was a very 'meh' race...

oohhh


Ferrari have the best race wins & best Pit crew


Arsenal - where are they in the current Football scenario?

^^Thats why I am not a fanboy

smart-a$$, see what you posted

Arsenal_Gunners said:

^^They play fkin best football in the world

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i just said the same , if Ferrari & Schumi won race after race, & Schumi setting records after records (Lap), then doesnt it mean Ferrari & Schumi, (now Massa & in future Kimi) "play as BEST drivers & team in the WORLD"

^^I only replied post #119.First of all it is plain stupid of you to compare 2 different teams belonging to 2 entirely different sports.

its not stupid. i was only justifying.8)

s18000rpm said:

its not stupid. i was only justifying.8)

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have to agree with u on the whole argument

oh damn, i compared the BEST with "not so best" teams in world

sorry Ferrari fans

After some 3-4 years of disappointments, it's good to see Mclaren coming and shaping up well this season.

Go Mclaren! Go Hamilton-Alonso! Hopefully Alonso will be triple world champion by the end of this season.

or by the looks of it Hamilton

but that Ron guy & wudnt let him take the title, coz he's Black

this time mclaren has luck and good drivers

Wow .. Massa won .. >> slap on alonso hahaha.
and kimi is extremely overrated, there are better drivers than him in other small teams

drgrudge said:

After some 3-4 years of disappointments, it's good to see Mclaren coming and shaping up well this season.

Go Mclaren! Go Hamilton-Alonso! Hopefully Alonso will be triple world champion by the end of this season.

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Ya they are coming up but its hard to beat the ferrari this season.

I can see Hamilton win that will be great,

but Alonso naaaaaaaah never he is true SOB.

s18000rpm said:

or by the looks of it Hamilton

but that Ron guy & wudnt let him take the title, coz he's Black

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ya thats right .. He never loses an opportunity to pip alonso.

Hamilton is really a good driver,.. who knows he gets a champianship.
thank you Ron for getting a black in a competitive car.

Alonso (whineso) at it again- whining that "Massa driving dangerously". (1st lap incident)
coz massa took the inside & maintained it?

this is a RACE for god's sake

oh man I read that too in today's newspaper,

hey man Alonso is also known as Crying Baby don't you know that.

he always have problems with others, in next race he will say Hamilton is driving dangerously.. And then he will leave the McLaren too

yup i know

rit from Schumi era

@all :- did anyone catchup with the question that is asked by audience to goodwin !!??

what was yesterday's question..??

drgrudge said:

After some 3-4 years of disappointments, it's good to see Mclaren coming and shaping up well this season.

Go Mclaren! Go Hamilton-Alonso! Hopefully Alonso will be triple world champion by the end of this season.

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Not if Massa has an answer to that

s18000rpm said:

Alonso (whineso) at it again- whining that "Massa driving dangerously". (1st lap incident)
coz massa took the inside & maintained it?

this is a RACE for god's sake

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ohh man ...if this true ...then Schumi would said it way before that hakkinen in a Killer Driver....also Montoya.....they dont drive at the Race track they want to Kill each other...

Alonso again whinning ..... cry baby cry ..

*f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2007/05/18/formula_1_could_run_v6_engines_in_2011/
i really dont want this to happen ...... it will be like watching A1 GP named as F1 .(

what i think -
now something about Kimi is getting uncovered this season, his OVERTAKING CAPABILITY,there's none

he didnt even try to get PAST J. Button , who has a slow underperforming Honda, the same thing, last season, Michael was overtaking so many cars at every possible corners (at Chicane - end of tunnel) .

man what the hell is wrong wih this guy doesnt he wants to WIN Driver's title?

thanks to him McLaren are 20pts. clear in Constructors standing

but anyways, this is just the 5th race.

lets see what happens at the end of season.

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=467800&postcount=48
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=467853&postcount=49

well i am a Ferrari supporter and big Anti Alonso..!!

but i still feel that car still doesnt suit kimi's style.. and yeah his approach is a lot conservative this season..

they need someone like fearless montoya the only noob who directly challenged MSC

anyways..there are many races left..!! so positions can change anytime..

Massa drove fine but he didnt have the pace,(again its cars) he will be back at Canada.

Hamilton was just awesome .. BUT COULDN'T PASS THE SOB

...

Ferrari has won 3 out of 5 races still lacing behind .. the points system should change

^^Huh!did you have problems when MS was winning race after race with the same system

points system r just fine.....

As they say in football,the league table doesn't lie.
Alonso is on the top of it,he is better than everybody else.

for the time being mate...
remember their r many races to go

Arsenal_Gunners said:

^^Huh!did you have problems when MS was winning race after race with the same system

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Right said.

Arsenal_Gunners said:

^^Huh!did you have problems when MS was winning race after race with the same system

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Err wasn't point system changed cos MS was winning the races and no one had in them to compete with him. People were starting to complain of F1 getting boring.

Hail Lewis Hamilton!!!

The perfect McLaren team would have been Hamilton and Kimi. Though Kimi has the worst luck, of any drivers, except for Aryton Senna, in Formula One

there is nothing wrong with the points system.....Mclaren have a better reliable car than Ferrari..... and Kimi's luck isnt going well as it started this season......but still there r lot of races to go ..and we will see a close call towards the end of the season....

Go Ferrari.......

Arsenal_Gunners said:

^^Huh!did you have problems when MS was winning race after race with the same system

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Yes I did//
If you don't know the FIA is making it so boring. they changed so many unnecessary thing in rules chart

Arsenal_Gunners said:

Alonso is on the top of it,he is better than everybody else.

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fk of man .. Alonso is a $hit
he is most disgusting racer in the formula1 history.
Even the last finisher are better than him if placed in the same car.

THERE WERE MORE CHEERS AND SHOUTS WHEN HAMILTON RECEIVED THE TROPHY.

mobilegeek said:

fk of man .. Alonso is a $hit
he is most disgusting racer in the formula1 history.

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As I said in my previous post,the guy with the most points in the table is the best(at that stage at least)and all the drivers follow the same point system,nobody is getting an advantage.
So no need to lose your cool.

everyone says .. Kimi is unlucky
the same way I say Alonso is just lucky to be on the podium, but don't deserve

P1. Lewis Hamilton (his 1st P1 - a personal record)
P2. F. Alonso
P3. N. Heidfield (BMW, so i'm not sad, for ferrari's performance)
P4. Kimi
P5. F. Massa

PWN3D again

ohhhhhhhhh!!!

so THIS is what you call PWND???

hmmmm then what was Ferrari doin from 2000 to 2004???

looooooooooooooooooool ROFL

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Q: (Randy Phillips – The Gazette) But do you have any particular advice for Lewis?
FA: No advice. Don’t be too aggressive in the first corner and let me go through. (Laughter)
NH: The same for me please

^^What an irrelevant thing to say
We all know ferrari was winning(thanks to MS) from 2000-2004
But this has no relation with last night's pwnage

sooooo...

where was McLaren back then??? (in the "back" i guess).

they say - "every dog has its day", rit now McLaren are having their days.
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anyway,
-- Rumours --

->Kimi not giving the "input" as Massa.
->Massa getting a LOT of tips & advice from M.S. (kimi not getting, coz he's a arrogant guy &thinks he doesnt need any).

->Fact<-
F. Alonso following M.S.'s footstep - the more you are friendly (mingle) with the team, the more Podium RESULT you get.

see how Renault are doing after Alonso left & how McLaren are doin after he joined them.
Same was the case when it was Schumi in Benetton-Renault & then moved to Ferrari.

I just said they were pwned in the recent qualifier and in some races this season.
Irrelivent-history-backside

watever

btw WTB(uck) are you doin here football-a**

The season is over,so I am d***ing other games

wat a Drama Pack Race .....
good see BMW power up ......

ohhh man a HORRIFIC Crash (Kubica).

The best moment was davidson waiting in the pit lane for his pit crew to realise he had come, I think.....

yupe that was a Horrific crash ..... Kubica has broken his legs

ROFL. some race this was .

SafetyCar.

sad Massa was black flagged or it cud be a possible podium finish.

^^ The safety car probably made more laps than most cars...!! Massa looked all set for a podium finish.. And ALonso tasted what it feels to be unlucky... (Kimi must be laughing)..!

Alonso struggled for pace, particularly in the closing stages when his super-soft Bridgestones seemed to be providing little grip. The result was the unusual sight of a McLaren being passed by a Super Aguri, that of Takuma Sato. ...more


ROFL

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"It seemed a terribly long time, even though it was only minutes before I got the information that Robert is conscious and able to talk," said BMW's Mario Theissen. "According to the first medical reports, Robert has escaped this very heavy accident relatively unscathed."

Initial reports suggesting that Kubica had suffered a broken leg or ankle have not been confirmed.

FIA F1 Safety regulation ROCKS 8)
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Canadian Grand Prix - selected driver quotes

Haha.... this thread is swarmed with Ferrari Tifosi.

Mclaren rules! I still think Alonso will be Triple World Champion this season. Even otherwise I'm happy as Hamilton is the second contender for the title. Either way good for Mclaren.

I loved every moment of watching cryonso struggle. Yeah I am a ferrari fan, too and was quite disappointed to see the massa being black flagged. Kubica's crash was horrible. But, on the other hand it was so reasuring to see the strength of a F1 car that he just has a broken leg.
Well, for hamilaton, I guess there's no match for him. I hope he does win the title this year. Ferrari look nowhere close to winning driver's or constructor's championship this year. And last thing I'd like to see is cry babies at the top.

^ LOL ......
Ferrari is having the Quickest just that something is wrong with the strategy ..... hope they do good at Indianapolis .......

just saw kubica's crash on youtube..it was bad...thanx to f1 cars saety..he survived..hope ferrari have better luck next time

i didnt see...... why didnt Massa complete??

^he & G.Fisichella exited the Pit Lane while RED lights were on, in "Safety Car" period.

Felipe Massa said:

(DSQ):
"What happened at the pit stop is a real shame. Even if the safety car didn't help me I was having a good race and I could have brought home some important points for the championship. Unfortunately, when I left the pits, I did not even look at the lights, partly because there were so many cars in pit lane behind me.

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BMW Sauber’s Robert Kubica has escaped serious injury after crashing heavily in Sunday’s Canadian Grand Prix. Kubica suffered a light concussion and a sprained ankle in the high-speed accident.

NO BROKEN LEG.

A decision regarding Kubica's participation in next weekend's United States Grand Prix will be taken at Indianapolis on Thursday

Damn i had an exam today....looks like a missed an eventful race...!!

Is it worth downloading..??

^^ VEry much, I would say..!!

Here are some comments made by alonso after the race:


"Alonso cursed the effect the safety car had on the race, saying: "It always makes the races a lottery and you need luck.
"I had to stop on lap 24, and the safety car came out on lap 24, I had to stop on lap 49-50 and it came out on lap 47, and that was the race for me.
"My team-mate benefited the most. As I said, the safety car is a lottery and there can't be a race where you are more out of luck than I have been. "There will be other times when it will be my turn to have a good race and the rest will have all the bad luck." "

Once a cry baby...always a crybaby...

Dipen01 said:

Is it worth downloading..??

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yeah. One of the best races in quite a while. Really topsy turvy except that hamilton seemed to be on a different track.

OMG just saw this topic today couldn't believe i missed it from the start.

Ferrari will dominate in the US GP coz they have the best straight line speed and hope lewis crashes out or he'll be running away from any ferrari competition.I'm a huge Mclaren fan but also a big Kimi fan.

Mclaren might be better earlier but i doubt that they will win the next GP and hopefully ferrari comes back stronger in the title race.

History shows that there's always 1 driver who comes into his own after the US GP like Kimi(2005) and MSc(2006)

Hope ..thats all we can do...

I badly wish if schumi wuld be racing this year.. am pretty sure...he would have given tough even wid under powered car..!!

well i didnt see the GP..but as everyones says Massa had badluck...else he could have made podium so its not that bad for Ferrari...slite bad luck..!! plus luck too...coz if alonso would have taken 2nd then it would be worse for them

Yeah ferrari went lucky

Arsenal_Gunners said:

Yeah ferrari went lucky

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with massa being black flagged?

With alonso being 7th.

Baby Cries again

Here's the cry-baby crying again:

"World champion Fernando Alonso believes his McLaren team are giving preference to his rookie team-mate Lewis Hamilton.

The Spaniard had misgivings as soon as he joined the team at the end of 2006

He said: "From the first moment, I wasn't completely comfortable. I am in an English team, with an English team-mate, who is doing brilliantly. "We knew all the support and help would go his way. It is something I understand and I'm not complaining." (not complaining??!excuse me whats all this about then???!!)
I've won two races out of six and I've finished on the podium four times and I have those 40 points that will allow me to fight for the title in the end," he said.

"I'm calm, I'm fine, though I know there is some impatience to return to the top and dominate.
"But I'm second in the championship, I'm eight points behind. It would be worse if I were at Renault, or Honda or any other team. "

In addition to what he had said earlier:

"Alonso cursed the effect the safety car had on the race, saying: "It always makes the races a lottery and you need luck.
"I had to stop on lap 24, and the safety car came out on lap 24, I had to stop on lap 49-50 and it came out on lap 47, and that was the race for me.
"My team-mate benefited the most. As I said, the safety car is a lottery and there can't be a race where you are more out of luck than I have been. "There will be other times when it will be my turn to have a good race and the rest will have all the bad luck." "

dude we all know he cries a lot .... so get a snap man.......

just cant help it

Alosno is a cry baby ,why would you blame the mclaren management for your misfortunes.He was running the car himself he would have avoided the bad finish had he been more careful..Indianoplolis is going to be a boring race ,going round and round oval tracks.By the way newspapers are referring to hamilton as the first black driver in f1.Was our very own karthikeyan not the first black driver in f1.

Indians are considered Asian or Brown.....Africans are considered black

India awarded F1 race for 2009

June 14, 2007 15:03 IST

India have been awarded a Formula One Grand Prix race to be held from 2009, Indian Olympic Association (IOA) president Suresh Kalmadi announced on Thursday.

"We have received a letter in this regard from Bernie Ecclestone, CEO of Formula One. The IOA will be the promoter, the first event of which will be held in 2009," he told a news conference.

Source :- *www.rediff.com/sports/2007/jun/14ind.htm

why the hell havent they metioned the Venue ??????

Well because even LOCATIOn isnt scouted for God knows how will everything be done in less than 2 yrs

Give Vijay Mallya the contract

its delhi

*www.espnstar.com/formula1/formula1_newsdetail_6180729.html

and itz gonna be a street race

Vyasram said:

its delhi

*www.espnstar.com/formula1/formula1_newsdetail_6180729.html

and itz gonna be a street race

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with the india gate in the background..they'll be using the rajpath...i am just luving it & thank u Mr.vijay mallaya(only if the race is staged in 2009)

hope they don't ban the pitbabes and WAGs !!!!!!!!!

Street Race is ruled out..!!

*content.msn.co.in/Sports/FormulaOne/Stories/FormulaoneAP_140607_1627.htm

Indian Olympic Association plans to host Formula 1 race in 2009

TIMES VIEW

F1 will be good for India

Formula 1 is on its way to India. The Indian Olympic Association has received a letter from Bernie Ecclestone, CEO of F1, offering India a place in the 2009 Formula 1 world championship. According to the current proposal, the Indian Grand Prix would be held in Delhi on a track built specifically for auto racing. Sports fans have naturally welcomed the idea.
Formula 1 has been acquiring an increasing following since Narain Karthikeyan made his debut in 2005.However,some have argued that the investment required to build a track and then maintain it is not justified by the returns.
This argument is shortsighted. For India to be given an opportunity to host an event like a Formula 1 Grand Prix is a matter of great pride. Nations such as Malaysia and Bahrain have been able to successfully stage races. There is no reason why India cannot do the same. F1 claims 800 million television viewers annually, behind only the football World Cup and the Olympics. It is the pinnacle of motorsport, and is an arena for many technological advances in the automotive industry.
If a Grand Prix is held in India and goes off without any major hitch, India will have truly arrived in the world of international sport. The logistics of staging a race are complicated and will require major infrastructure updates. New roads, hotels and flyovers were built for the Asian Games in 1982. These sharply improved the quality of life in Delhi. The same will happen with an F1 race, which can provide an impetus to design a better airport, build more hotels and make the city more habitable.
Besides indirectly leading to Delhi becoming a better place to live in, an F1 race will boost tourist traffic to India, which will be good for the economy. India will gain visibility on the world stage as a sporting nation, not just a cricketing one. Far from encouraging rash driving, the immense skill and precision required in F1 racing should inspire our drivers to drive better because modern F1 driving in fact creates conditions for safer driving through skills and technology.

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COUNTER VIEW

No need for F1 racing

- Ronojoy Sen

Should we be excited that Formula 1 is likely to come to Delhi in two years from now? No way. Such hare-brained moves, engineered by sports administrators with dubious track records, should be resisted vigorously.
Supporters of F1 racing point to the fillip it would provide to Delhi’s infrastructure. They predict that several thousand hotel rooms would be added in the city and Delhi airport’s facilities significantly enhanced to deal with the increased flow of tourists and equipment. There are serious doubts about whether government can get its act together in the required short time of two years.
The larger point, however, is not whether government can meet deadlines. Delhi’s development has traditionally been linked to mega events such as the 1982 Asiad and now the 2010 Commonwealth Games. But why should development of Delhi’s airport, roads and hotels be hostage to big-ticket sporting events? Going by that logic, nothing will happen in the capital unless some jamboree is organised. That is just not the way a city’s infrastructure should be planned and developed.
Besides the faulty logic of urban development being peddled by F1 enthusiasts, the sport itself has no place in today’s world. F1 racing — with apologies to its many fans — is an extremely wasteful sport. When the globe is facing an acute energy crunch, it is a shame that a sport where petrol-guzzling cars race each other continues to be encouraged. There are some who would argue that innovations in the design of F1 cars could lead to energy-saving measures. This is a specious argument. The entire rationale of F1 racing is to maximise speed; it has nothing to do with energy saving.
Finally, F1 racing can have pernicious effects in a place like India. Many of the country’s drivers are possibly the worst in the world. Speed limits mean nothing to them; they usually regard traffic lights as mere decoration. God alone knows how drivers will react when they see F1 cars zipping at 250-plus kmph on a desi racetrack.

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Times view said:

F1 claims 800 million television viewers annually.behind only the football World Cup and the Olympics.

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FA Premiership alone in football has more than a billion viewers worldwide.

Ok Offtrack..Offtrack..Offtrack..

I am posting it here...because all the F1 enthusiasts must be checkin this thread..

Anyone here follows the Race/Qualifying on Live Timing at F1....??

I am havin sm problem since last week..even though i installed latest Java..Still i am unable to watch it..before that it was all perfect..even mailed thier support/help..but not response...so posted here..!!

Anyone has any idea...how do i debug it..??

@ Dipen01
try installing Flash plugin and Java plugin again

@dipen, what browser you use?

d/l here - *www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/

Qualifying @ 22:30 [IST ]

Race Day
Sunday 17 June @ 22:30

Tried on Opera and IE 7 both..

was working like a charm on IE 6...can that be a problem

EDIT :- Even installed shockwave player..No change.. and yeah from the start of the problem its asking me two files to download everything i check the page...

keyframe.bin
keyframe_337.bin

Here is the screenie of the widow :

*imagefifi.com/viewer.php?id=arx1181997604z.JPG

^ d/l this- *www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash

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Qualification results

P1. Lewis Hamilton - McLaren-Mercedes
P2. Fernando Alonso - McLaren-Mercedes
P3. Felipe Massa - Ferrari
P4. Kimi Räikkönen - Ferrari
P5. Nick Heidfeld - BMW

^^Lol good.. you are changing teams
(now dont say,I always loved BMW and sh1t)

^WT buck is wrong with you

when the hell did i say i changed teams???

yes i like BMW, infact my favourite BMW M5 is based on F1, so its obvious i'll support BMW too8)

but my full support will go to Ferrari (coz of M.S.)

Ya ya watevr
Btw.Nice move

s18000rpm said:

^ d/l this- *www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash

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Qualification results

P1. Lewis Hamilton - McLaren-Mercedes
P2. Fernando Alonso - McLaren-Mercedes
P3. Felipe Massa - Ferrari
P4. Kimi Räikkönen - Ferrari
P5. Nick Heidfeld - BMW

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I already installed that..!!

plus dunno as soon as qualifying started...though i could see anything..but it constantly asked for downloading file...

keyframe.bin

at constant time duration..!! say one file every 2-3 secs..!! dunno whats exactly happening..!

^did you install/un-install any codec pack, s/w, just before this problem started?

wat AV, F/w you're using?

Well i am not using any AV since long time....

F/w == Force ware/Firm Ware... anyways..
Well regarding Disp. Driver.
NVIDIA Display Driver for Windows 2000/XP
version 97.73, 02/02/2007

from Guru3D

Lets see plannin to reinstall OS before tonite

Hamilton's on his way to win his 2nd successive f1 races. there's no stopping this guy.

massa vs kimi an interesting duel going on...

even webber vs trulli is exciting

not many ppl follow f1 in us... the stands look empty..

raikonnen is getting pwned.

Mclaren owned ferrari again.Where are you s18 noob mwahahaha

gr8 race btw team-mates and dissapointment for nico and liuzzi(the entertainer of the race)

hope testing will bring the ferrari vs mclaren fight back and renault inching closer to bmw too

Well so Rookie does it again...!!

1) Hamilton
2) Alonso +1.5s
3) Massa +11.3s
4) Kimi +2.5s

Well didnt see the race live..but monitored every lap times... And i must say Kimi was real awesome in mid sector and even at the end..!! he screwed up on the first lap i guess.!! i dont know what happened after 2nd pitstop...on timing screen i thought he could hv passed Massa ... but he didnt..

anyways.... there was solid fight between Mclarens in the middle stint (one instance where both were side by side).. and towards the end it was Ferrari's... Well dunno but looks like it was a decent race..!!

Mclaren owned ferrari again.

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@Arsenal :- The only reason why Mclaren won was the sheer pace of car... There was nothing like stunning drive from any of these drivers..

If you saw the race, u must have seen Kimi's pace..If only he did that kind of driving regularly, he'd win some... Doing the fastest lap with the harder compound tyres takes some doing.

Just wait for European Break..!!

bad luck for heidfield ...good see Ferrari back to pace .... hope they make progress by the French Gp

Dipen01 said:

@Arsenal :- The only reason why Mclaren won was the sheer pace of car... There was nothing like stunning drive from any of these drivers..

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Did you saw the skills of hamilton,he held his own even when Fernando was all over him.He was flawless.
For me it was stunning driving from Lewis,and very good try by Fernando.
The difference between 2nd and 3rd place was 12.8 seconds,if this is not ownage I don't know what is.

Well that was due to back markers dude....well yeah thats the part of the race...so i dont mean to say that we should exclude it..

but u can compare lap times of all the laps...and all three cars (lewis,alonso,massa) were around same whole race... except for kimi who was blazing in midsector (ofcourse he was stupid enough not able to pass roseberg and heiki)..but so what i meant was... if not for that back markers... we could have witnessed a 4way battle..!!

plus lewis we all know..doesnt crack under pressure...(atleast till his 7th race, we havent seen him make a single mistake).. Fernando is desperate so he is bound to attack and he is pretty good at it.. he is know for that..!!

But basically its technical teams at Ferrari who need to raise thier level..!! if they can proved kimi and massa with at par car...then we can see some real 4 way racing..!!

and NO i havent seen the race so i didnt see skills of hamilton..!! but i just know that they were side by side goin thru corner one..!!

You should have seen it.Period.

Hamilton is just amazing. The way he held his nerves when cryonso attempted to overtake him was really great to watch.
I can't get it, what's wrong with Ferrari. The cars had the pace to match McLaren's but just seemed to take things too lightly.

^^^
i guess they underperformed in Qualifying..!!

3rd and 4th can't be said to underperform. And a gap of 10+ secs doesn't have anything to do with qualifying, there was no one between massa and raikonnen for almost whole race.

Kimi

he is Quick, thats all.

if he starts the race from pole - he wins, otherwise he stays in the position he started from.

not at all a fighter, doesnt EVEN TRIES to overtake.

did you see how Fisichella was attacking? even tho Kimi had quick car, he didnt even try. he got past the cars coz of Pit Stops
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whineso at it again, yesterday if you watched the telecast from 9:30, you might have seen it too. its a BIG time news, Whineso furious/jealous on his team mate's success

atleast we(ferrari) dont have such whining driver.
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if you didnt know, Lewis was trained by Ron Dennis since Lewis was 12 & they say Ron kind of ADOPTED Hamilton.
Ron's the guy who brought Kimi too

Dipen01 said:

The only reason why Mclaren won was the sheer pace of car...

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mehulved said:

I can't get it, what's wrong with Ferrari. The cars had the pace to match McLaren's but just seemed to take things too lightly.

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oops,the ferrari guys look confused

mehulved said:

Hamilton is just amazing. The way he held his nerves when cryonso attempted to

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good name....
i hav started hating him....

Arsenal_Gunners said:

oops,the ferrari guys look confused

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Well there's no doubt that pace was there. Kimi had the fastest lap in the race and Massa's fastest lap was not too far behind the McLaren's. And car's balance was quite good too. They were quite competent with McLaren in straight line speed and I believe ferrari's were faster in the corners.

Originally Posted by Arsenal_Gunners
oops,the ferrari guys look confused

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I wonder if ur here to debate whoz better or bad...or WHY FERRARIs Suck or why Alonso's GOD or whatever..

We should be having some healthy discussion/trivia etc...not just Alonso "LOVERS" fighting with Ferrari supporters...

I am here for the latter.As I said,the football season is over and irritating ferrari guys is my new pastime

If thats the case then dont worry No debate with you on that issue now on... because basically theres no point ...

Anyways..

Is there any GP in the past..where the Winner has even lapped the 2nd place finisher..!! ??

whoa......i too wanna know....
i guess it wud'nt hav happened....

possible in Monaco.....

well last year alonso came close 2 lap the second place i guess massa with a 5 sec gap of overlapping in Monaco i think.

Alonso and Hamilton agree pact of silence

Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonso have agreed not to talk about each other to the media unless they are both present. The move comes after a couple of weeks in which conflicting reports in the British and Spanish media have suggested there is a major rift developing between the two.

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Montoya: Hamilton is McLaren's first driver

Former McLaren driver Juan Pablo Montoya believes McLaren definitely has a number one driver in their team: Lewis Hamilton. Montoya believes Hamilton is doing a good job, but that his team-mate Alonso is most likely not equally treated at the Woking-based team.


Speaking about current championship leader Lewis Hamilton Montoya told AP: "I think the kid is doing a good job, they have the fastest car and he's clearly the No. 1 on the team. But there's always a No. 1 at McLaren. I mean, Fernando Alonso said it himself. Didn't he? That's what the media was saying.

"I don't really follow it too much, but Ron (Dennis) paid his whole career. He got to Formula One because Ron paid for his whole career. Aside from the kid having talent, Ron paid for him. Ron has told him where to go, arranged the deals for him, and paid for it over his whole career. He's been under Ron Dennis since the kid was 8 years old or something.

"The long-term of McLaren is Hamilton. That's the thing, they are both doing a really good job, and the car is really fast. So even if you do a bad job in a good car, you are still going to finish second or third. And (in Canada), everybody messed up but him, and he won the race. And he's been getting quicker and quicker. And I heard Fernando is not very comfortable in the car, either."

Montoya does believe that the 22-year-old Briton is a talented driver. "Oh, he's really good. I am not going to say the guy is not good. The guy is really good. But he has an advantage that ... they are always going to say that it's equal stuff. But there really always is a favourite driver on the team."

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Loooooooool *www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007281065,00.html

^^ maybe this is why ferrari aint doin well

It looks like more of a cover up story as the guys' comments below say,and btw. you guys claim that ferrari cars were the fastest in last race,so nothing like sabotage.

its BS.

the new Ferrari crew are bunch of BS.

hope MS still comes up with something.

YEEEE...

1 2 for the Ferrari....
Raikkonen steals French win from Massa


take that Mclaren..........

the NEW look www.f1.com sucks

1 6 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari
2 5 Felipe Massa Ferrari
3 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes

the interface sucks big time yuke......

had anyone seen the crash in the gp2 race on saturday more devastating than kubica's and even the 1st 2 collided at the very start

btw gr8 result for ferrari and kimi

finally kimi overtook someone

ssk_the_gr8 said:

finally kimi overtook someone

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LOL ...

the new look f1.com looks like a typical spamsite

^^^^
Seriosly didnt like it much..!!

LEWIS HAMILTON’S F1 world title dream could be wrecked by a probe into the spying scandal surrounding his McLaren team.
*www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,3-2007300890,00.html

dude u read the sun a lot for sure your references always comes from the sun!

yeah it's kinda true coz i don't think a team can improve so much in the winter break as mclaren had done

the real hardwork this season has been done by the bmw guyz

*s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/f1-20070707080832.jpg


P1. Lewis
P2. Kimi
P3. Alonso
P4. Massa

again Hamilton there.....
he will win the chp'ship....i think....

Raikkonen spoils British party

great race by Kimi.....the ferrari looked so speedy than the mclaren's sad that Massa had a mechanical problem, for which he had to start from the pit lane but even that he did an excellent job by finishing 5th.......

Go ferrari .........

1. Kimi
2. Alonso
3. Hamilton.

BRING IT ON

F1.com said:

It was not a great day for Lewis Hamilton in the other McLaren, who struggled throughout to match his main rivals’ pace, and had Felipe Massa not had to start from the pit lane after his Ferrari stalled on the grid in the original start, he would arguably not have been able to maintain his record of finishing on the podium in every Grand Prix he has driven.


It may not have been a classic race, but it proved again that the advantage remains with Ferrari as the season reached its midpoint.

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Awesome race by Kimi...one of the cleanest and best races I have seen over the past two years...

way to go but unfortunately lewis has to have at least a few non scoring races for atleast ferrari to win

bad luck for massa otherwise a gr8 race by kimi..
Ferrari r back on top

Ferrari's Kimi Raikkonen secured pole position for Sunday's European Grand Prix after a dramatic Nurburgring qualifying session which saw McLaren's Lewis Hamilton crash out five minutes into Q3.

Hamilton sustained NO serious injuries in the accident, which was caused by a problem with the right-front wheel at his previous pit stop.

Qualifying results...

P1. Kimi
P2. Alonso (even after making big mistake, but shows that he was on very low fuel onboard)
P3. Massa

make the thread sticky plz.....

Hamilton safe after high-speed qualifying shunt

*www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2007/7/6509.html

The cause of the accident was a problem with the airgun used on the right front wheel during the pit stop immediately prior to the incident. The wheelnut could not be fitted properly and a second gun was needed to cure the problem. However, the wheel was subsequently still able to move enough to generate sufficient damage to cause it to fail.

awesome stuff by ferrari......BTW alonso was very light on the fuel....

there were talks that lewis not racing tomm. so the gap can be cut down to 2pts. but it was reported later that lewis is fine does this mean he'll race tomm.

go kimi show the punk kid how to win a championship(no disrespect to lewis)

Lewis Hamilton said:

, McLaren (10th, 1m 33.833s)
“I’m absolutely fine and we will see later if I am able to race tomorrow. Everybody has been looking after me really well. We know what caused the accident and I’m just pleased that everything is OK and I really hope I can race tomorrow.”

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As is normal, Hamilton will require a final sign-off by FIA Medical Delegate Gary Hartstein on Sunday morning before he is allowed to race. McLaren expect the outcome of this to be positive.

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Hamilton's qualifying accident explained*www.formula1.com/news/technical/2007/779/450.html



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Hamilton cleared to race

McLaren confirmed this morning that having been examined by FIA Medical Delegate Dr Gary Hartstein and the Chief Medical Officer of the event, Dr Klaus U. Zerbian, Lewis Hamilton has been cleared to race in the European Grand Prix.

It follows the British driver’s high-speed crash during Saturday’s qualifying session at the Nurburgring. Hamilton escaped uninjured, but was airlifted to hospital for a precautionary CT scan.

He will start from 10th place on the grid, with the same fuel load that he began qualifying with.
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After the pleasant weather yesterday, it is more overcast this morning. The ambient temperature high will be around 19 degrees Celsius, and once again there is a chance of showers this afternoon.

Great victory for Alonso. Good day for McLaren overall. After so much luck, it would have been nice to see Hamilton get that one point.

MY MAN ALONSO WINS ......hohohoho GAME ON!!!

YAAY,Alonso won

Where art' the power Ferrari ,where ??? :'(

massa was loosing traction at the time of rain....dunnoa why else Ferrari was simply awesome in the Dry........hope we see a ferrari win in the next race......

BTW at the closing stages the rain came and gave the race to McLaren......damn....

the last set of tyre (intermediate), for Massa, ruined his race, coz he was struggling to find GRIP.

but have to say Alonso was superb after final pit stop.

man, Massa was really pissed off (if you watched the post race conf., you'll know).

yeah......well that was obvious....

really feel sorry for Kimi man.....today it was just no luck for ferrari it seemed....

Why do ferrari fans always talk about luck?

cuz thats the main u need for winning in anything.....whether its in F1 , Football, Cricket anything.......no matter how well u do...but at the end of the its the luck u need to WIN.

Alonso won the race and massa blew it,as simple as that.

Ferrari, luck??? ROFL

its Alonso(McLaren) who ALWAYS cries about LUCk LUCK & more LUCK


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Ron should have not interfered in Massa & Alonso's talk.

Alonso cries bout evrything.....

Massa didnt BLEW it, it was TEAM's mistake for puttin wrong tyres.

if you wanna talk of Blowing, then what did Lewis do? he could have managed a podium finsih8), but i guess his luck ran out WIDE out of track

no disrespect to Lewis8), i'm his fan too (but for the reason that he is first Black & drives perfect F1)

prateek_san said:

cuz thats the main u need for winning in anything.....whether its in F1 , Football, Cricket anything.......no matter how well u do...but at the end of the its the luck u need to WIN.

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your ferrari friend says otherwise

s18000rpm said:

Ferrari, luck??? ROFL

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that maybe his thinking......

what a final 10 laps .... brilliant driving by massa and alonso .... avoided the over take attempt just kewl absolute calmness amazing overtake in the end ... aur hamilton ...bacha apni auk pe aa gaya ...

iMav said:

what a final 10 laps .... brilliant driving by massa and alonso .... avoided the over take attempt just kewl absolute calmness amazing overtake in the end ... aur hamilton ...bacha apni auk pe aa gaya ...

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he joined the race a lap down (after restart) [made a mistake - chose to pit early for dry tyres, so that cost him lot of momentum], & yet finished in 9th, set some fastest laps, he overtook some cars brilliantly, & dont forget he crashed at 270+kmph just yesterday & his broken car was rebuilt for race today.

Poor Hamilton! He had made a brilliant start to run fourth by Turn Two, only to sustain a puncture that crippled his car. No sooner had he pitted for a replacement than he slid off the road in the lake in Turn One, from whence he was lucky to be rescued by the mobile crane. A lap behind now, he was allowed under the new rules to make up that lap behind the safety car, but a premature switch to dry tyres put him off the road again briefly. He then launched a great comeback as he traded fastest laps with Massa while trying to get back on the lead lap. After a dogged drive he got back into the points in eighth place on Lap 53, but then the need to pit for wets dropped him back. In the final laps he passed Renault’s Giancarlo Fisichella (for the second time, having overtaken him earlier round the outside in Turn 12), but he just ran out of time to deprive Heikki Kovalainen in the second R27 of the final point, even though he was at that stage lapping three seconds faster than the Renaults.

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overall, a good race from a shaken guy. 8), only a racer can pull off something like this, (like Massa in Silverstone, Alonso, not to forget MS & Mika)

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btw in post race confrnc., Webber was just goin on talking , Alonso was laughing, coz Webber just gave a short preview of WHOLE race then

i didn't get to see the restart but why wasn't lewis disqualified for being helped by a crane onto the track

last year montoya just ran wide a twin chicane and got stuck in the gravel trap just about a meter from the track,but he wasn't pulled in.he didn't get any points but i think mclaren stamped their authority a bit(can't believe i'm saying this being a mclaren fan)

hmm.....point.......
considering the fact that there were others too who were stuck up by the road side....
man......that was fun.....each car slidding down the track to end at the same spot....

kimi and ms are the best in starting from the back they will cause havock in the top order even if they are behind ... lewis was over lapped by massa .... but lewis has had a dream start till now .... man he can drive

What happend to Kimi? I Missed as power went down

EIDT:

I was surprised that Alonso told me I did it (hit his tyre on Alonso's sidepod) on purpose so I got angry with him. If he is not happy with this it is not my problem."

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I never expected Alonso could say that , Look at what happend to Ralf, yes he was pissed off after colliding with heidfield, but later told it was just a racing incident and said Hidefield should not be penalised and even Hidefield has appologised. FIA did not penalize Hidefield.

100 imaginary negatige reps for Alonso from me

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i didn't get to see the restart but why wasn't lewis disqualified for being helped by a crane onto the track

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Just as his car was being moved out, the decision to restart the race was taken as I see it. Then it's very much ok. He was even one lap behind because of this.

Arsenal_Gunners said:

your ferrari friend says otherwise

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when did i say that prateek said that

prateek_san said:

cuz thats the main u need for winning in anything.....whether its in F1 , Football, Cricket anything.......no matter how well u do...but at the end of the its the luck u need to WIN.

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any way gr8 race by massa & cryonso ..ferrari made a mistake with the tyres otherwise it was massa's race...
kimi was unlucky..relaibility of ferrari has to improve & finally hamilton does not finish on the podium nor does he get a point
but amazing race by lewis

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I never expected Alonso could say that

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thats typical alonso ...

Every forum i go i see Alonso bashers drooling around everywhere, just like when it was with MS.
Now cryonso what ? just that maybe it sound good because one hates him, cut him some slack.

Massa drove well ? huh? a short tempered guy like him is a disgarce in F1. He is not even a WDC material. Last race in Magny Cours i remeber him whining about back markers, complaining the whole week, now how kimi felt about that he will never say, that's what it should be like, not show your emotions. Unlike massa who has proved himself a complete whiner.

And about alonso its just the media, they hate him and make you people hate him, just because he came in way of MS in 2006. Everyone including me wanted to see MS take the WDC, just follow some british tabloid and you will get my point about how bad they hate alonso now just because of Hamilton.

Man they are all growing up, Hamilton is just 22 and alonso is 25 not much of a diff. If one has a problem with Alonso's remark then should not go easy with Hamilton either--remember what he said at monaco --calling webber and the others MONKEY, and he tricked massa to a mistake means all the rest of the drivers are just idiots.

Alonso is a world class driver, so is Kimi-- and hamilton is proving he has all that need to be a world class F1 driver.

I have respect for all the top drivers MH, MS, FA, KR, and now LH.

Massa huh ? He should be kicked from F1.

Thats what massa and alonso argued -- Translation :
Alonso: "You broke my sidepod there..., go and have a look at it!"
Massa: "Go fsck yourself! You've won and you say something like this, a$$hle, you win and say something like this."
Alonso: "I fought with Heidfeld, i fought with everyone, but you can't do that."
Massa: (Touching Alonso) "Try to learn something"
Alonso: "You try to learn something"
Massa: "Try to learn something!"
Alonso: "Try to learn something, i fought with all the world today, and with 3 laps to go, we touch!"
Massa: (sitting on his chair) "Good job!"
Alonso: "Good job!"
Massa: (Standing up, sarcastic tone) "I did that on purpose, like i did that on porpuse in Barcelona!"
Alonso: "Ok, ok..."
Massa: (Touching Alonso) "Try to learn something"
Massa: (Looking to someone who invite him to relax) "That's him!"
Fia official: "Quiet"

~PEACE~

Hackattack said:

Thats what massa and alonso argued -- Translation :
Alonso: "You broke my sidepod there..., go and have a look at it!"
Massa: "Go fsck yourself! You've won and you say something like this, a$$hle, you win and say something like this."
Alonso: "I fought with Heidfeld, i fought with everyone, but you can't do that."
Massa: (Touching Alonso) "Try to learn something"
Alonso: "You try to learn something"
Massa: "Try to learn something!"
Alonso: "Try to learn something, i fought with all the world today, and with 3 laps to go, we touch!"
Massa: (sitting on his chair) "Good job!"
Alonso: "Good job!"
Massa: (Standing up, sarcastic tone) "I did that on purpose, like i did that on porpuse in Barcelona!"
Alonso: "Ok, ok..."
Massa: (Touching Alonso) "Try to learn something"
Massa: (Looking to someone who invite him to relax) "That's him!"
Fia official: "Quiet"

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is all that real???



or a translation from Anti-Massa people?

what did Massa do in Silverstone? did the other drivers just let him pass by them?

btw that was not FIA official, , that was Ron Dennis, this itself makes clear that its (translation) is a work by Anti-Massa squad.

^^ Maybe, i saw the same on many F1 forums along Youtube, so i posted it.

Alonso needed to keep his cool that time.....he got too excited for first win... Massa just defended his line...Nothin was wrong on his part

French Grands Prix - Gilles Villeneuve and René Arnoux going absolutely hell-for-leather for second place in the closing laps at Dijon-Prenois in 1979. Let Murray Walker be your guide:

*www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3tXJm9tYGM

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Dijon 1979: Remembered for his frenetic style which seemed more like that of a rally driver, Villeneuve's wheel-banging duel with René Arnoux in the last laps of the 1979 French Grand Prix at the Dijon circuit, when he stubbornly refused to accept his 312T4 was slower than Arnoux's faster Renault was one of the most intense moments in Formula One racing.[16] Arnoux passed Villeneuve for second place with three laps to go, but Villeneuve re-passed him on the next lap. On the final lap Arnoux attempted to pass Villeneuve again, and the pair ran side-by-side through the first several corners of the lap, making contact several times. Arnoux took the position, but Villeneuve attempted an outside pass one corner later. The cars bumped hard, and Villeneuve slid wide. Villeneuve then tried an inside pass at a hairpin turn and managed to make it stick. He then held off Arnoux for the last half of the lap to secure 2nd place.[17] Villeneuve commented afterwards, "I tell you, that was really fun! I thought for sure we were going to get on our heads, you know, because when you start interlocking wheels it's very easy for one car to climb over another."

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Toro Rosso’s Sebastian Vettel? Just checked f1.com and read Sebastian Vettel will be driving for Toro Rosso :O , when did red bull sign him ? After Indy I was disappointed that he may not be able to race this year again . This guy has got real potential ... lets see if he can perform in the ferrari backed Toro Rosso

yippie...Mc Laren to go 1-2 tomorrow.............

looool

Alonso had to do a pathetic act to beat his team mate. yay McLaren & Alonso

f1.com said:

Hamilton misses out after pit-lane confusion

McLaren’s Lewis Hamilton was left frustrated in qualifying at the Hungaroring after he was forced to wait in the pit lane behind team mate Fernando Alonso. While Alonso went on to secure pole position, the delay meant Hamilton left the pits too late for a final flying lap.

Both drivers had entered the pits in the closing stages of Q3. However, a lengthy stop for Alonso - with the Spaniard appearing to sit motionless for several seconds even after the lollipop had been raised - meant Hamilton was forced to queue behind the champion.

By the time Hamilton rejoined the circuit there was insufficient time for him to complete his out-lap before the chequered flag fell. He had dominated qualifying to that point, going fastest in Q1 and Q2 and holding provisional pole until Alonso’s final run, which Hamilton was left powerless to challenge.

In the post-qualifying press conference, neither Alonso nor Hamilton would be drawn on details concerning the delay. The former claimed the team had held him back to gain better track position, while the latter suggested the interviewer should ask his team. McLaren boss Ron Dennis told pit-lane reporters that the team would discuss the matter.

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Hamilton is Guilty and not Alonso

Dennis: Hamilton triggered incident


McLaren team boss Ron Dennis has confirmed Lewis Hamilton was to blame for the qualifying incident involving the Briton and teammate Fernando Alonso, after the rookie driver ignored team orders earlier in the session.
Alonso has been widely criticised after he waited for some ten seconds before leaving the pitlane during his final stop for tyres.
The delay meant that Hamilton had to sit behind Alonso and was then unable to complete his final flying lap.
The incident is under investigation by the race stewards.
Although the Spaniard had been waved by his "lolly pop" mechanic to leave the pitlane, Dennis revealed Alonso's engineer had instructed him to wait as a consequence of Hamilton disobeying the team's orders earlier on.
"He was being counted down by his engineer," Dennis told reporters after qualifying. "He's under the control of his engineer. He determined when he goes. That's the sequence.
"And if you think that was a deliberate thing, then you can think what you want. I have given you exactly what happened."
Dennis said Hamilton's decision to disobey the team's orders had compromised the team's plans during qualifying.
"They were out of sequence because Lewis should have slowed and let Fernando past. And he didn't. He charged off. That's how we got out of sequence," Dennis added.
He further explained: "We have various procedures within the team and prior to practice we determine how it is going to be run, what our strategy is, and how that's going to be enacted on the circuit.
"There are some procedural issues there on qualifying. One of the things that you'll have seen several times over the course of this season is long periods of time where the car has gone down to the end of pitlane and sat for a long time.
"In this situation, we are timed to when we can dispatch the car based on when the car reaches a given temperature, and then we know how long we can hold it at the pitlane.
"The cars are dispatched as soon as possible. In this instance, Lewis's car got up to that temperature first, we went Lewis, we sent Fernando, and the fuel burn characteristics [mean that] there is a small advantage which we play from driver to driver according to the nature of the circuit.
"In this instance, it was Fernando's time to get the advantage of the longer fuel burn. The arrangement was, OK, we're down at the end of the pitlane, we reverse positions in the first lap. That didn't occur as arranged. That was somewhat disappointing and caused some tensions on the pitwall.
"We were, from that moment on, out of sequence because the cars were in the wrong place on the circuit and that unfolded into the pitstops. It complicated the situation into the result, which was Lewis not getting his final timed lap.
"So this really started from that position, and from our drivers not swapping position to get the right fuel burn in order to arrive at the point where we cut the end result to the end.
"Now, as you have often asked the question, and let me make it a very honest answer, it is extremely difficult to deal with two such competitive drivers. There are definite pressures within the team. We make no secret of it. They are both very competitive, and they both want to win, and we are trying our very hardest to balance those pressures.
"Today we were part of a process where it didn't work, and the end result is more pressure on the team. But what you hear is the exact truth of what happened, and we will manage it inside the team through the balance of the season.
"Obviously Lewis feels more uncomfortable with the situation than Fernando. That's life, that's the way it is, and if he feels too hot to talk about it then that's the way it is.
"But what I've done is, I have given you an exact understanding of what took place today. And it's just pressure, competitiveness, and that's the way it is. We've just got to get on and deal with it, but we're not hiding from it.
"We're sat on the front row of the most difficult Grand Prix to win as regards to overtaking, and therefore we want to get on with the race.
"Fernando is here. Have I explained it accurately? [Alonso gives a thumbs-up]. OK. That's the way it is."

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Courtesy : www.autosport.com

um, bad news for Alonso... fans

Alonso demoted to sixth in Hungary

World Champion Fernando Alonso has lost his pole position for the Hungarian Grand Prix and will start tomorrow's race in sixth place.

The race stewards at the Hungaroring have decided to demote the McLaren driver after reviewing evidence from today's qualifying session, where the Spaniard held up teammate Lewis Hamilton in the pits, causing the Briton to miss out on a final flying lap and possible pole.

Alonso was adamant that he remained stationary for ten seconds because his engineers had told him to, while team boss Ron Dennis told reporters after the session that the incident was a result of Hamilton himself ignoring team orders earlier on in the session, therefore leaving the two drivers out of sequence.

The stewards talked to representatives of the team and reviewed recordings of the car radio transmissions before making their decision, over eight hours after qualifying ended.

source

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um, Bad news for McLaren .. fans

McLaren stripped of potential points

The stewards of the Hungarian Grand Prix have also penalised the McLaren team, saying the outfit will not be awarded any constructors points in tomorrow's race.

This comes along with a five-place demotion for Fernando Alonso, who has lost his pole position and will start tomorrow's race in sixth place.

The stewards said they did not accept the team's explanations nor Alonso's for the incident in today's qualifying, which saw the Spaniard hold up his teammate Lewis Hamilton, causing the Briton to lose the opportunity to run another flying lap.

McLaren have the right to appeal the stewards' decision.

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Felipe Massa, Ferrari (14th, 1m 21.021s):

“What happened in Q2 is very frustrating. I made a mistake at the final corner on my first run, but then, when I came back to the pits, there was a misunderstanding over refueling and they let me go without fuel. That's why I stopped and had to be pushed back to our area by the mechanics. I went back out again, but the tyres were very cold and I was not able to do a time good enough to stay in the top ten. Tomorrow, I expect a very difficult race, as this is one of the worst places to start from a long way back. I will try and do my best and to get the car home as high up the order as possible. From what we have seen today, I don't think I could have been on the front row, but third place would have been a realistic target. Now we have to look at ways of using strategy to improve our situation. It's a shame starting this far back given that the car has a very good race pace.”

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Alonso blew it up

Alonso & the "Team" gotta do some work on their "Communication"

The team stated that they frequently give estimates as to duration of pit stop to their drivers before they pit and that the reason the car was in fact held for 20 seconds was that it was being counted down prior to release at a beneficial time regard being given to other cars on the track.

Alonso was asked why he waited for some 10 seconds before leaving the pits after being given the signal to leave. His response was that he was enquiring as to whether the correct set of tyres had been fitted to his car. When asked why this conversation did not take place during the 20 second period when his car sat stationary all work on it having been completed, it was stated that it was not possible to communicate by radio because of the countdown being given to him.

Reference to the circuit map shows that at the time Alonso was told he would be held for 20 seconds there were but 4 cars on the circuit, his own and those of Fisichella, Hamilton and Raikkonen. All but Raikkonen entered the pits such that there can have been no necessity to keep Alonso in the pits for 20 seconds waiting for a convenient gap in traffic in which to leave.

The explanation given by Alonso as to why at the expiration of the 20 second period he remained in his pit stop position for a further 10 seconds is not accepted. The Stewards find that he unnecessarily impeded another driver, Hamilton, and as a result he will be penalised by a loss of 5 grid positions.

...The full decision by the race stewards

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oh my.........

Seems a pretty fair decision to me by the FIA...

Finally a good & Fiar decision by FIA...this type of steps was needed by the Fia .....

Bernie Eccelstone

Bernie should now just simply hand over the 2007 WDC to Hamilton. END OF SEASON.

looool

Fisichella demoted to 13th on the grid

Giancarlo Fisichella will start today's Hungarian Grand Prix from 13th after being docked five grid positions for blocking Spyker's Sakon Yamamoto yesterday.

The Renault driver was judged to have impeded Yamamoto for virtually an entire lap during Yamamoto's second run during the opening phase of qualifying.

Fisichella's penalty means that seventh-placed Robert Kubica is the only driver in the top ten who will start from the grid position that he qualified in, following the earlier decision by the stewards to relegate Fernando Alonso to sixth for his actions in pitlane late in the session.
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Hamilton has shown his true colors, that smug arsewipe.
Radio commentary

Hamilton: "Don't ever f---ing do that to me again."

Dennis: "Don't f---ing talk to me like that."

Hamilton: "You can go and f---ing swivel."

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For those who don't know Ron Dennis is the Team principal/boss of Mclaren.

*www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/070805105554.shtml
*www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article2199765.ece

wow this is a real non-doctored reality tv show ... man this playing nothing less than a hollywood movie ... internal rivalries, good guy bad guy and a mentor involved ...

when will the race start

5:30pm

Hackattack said:

Hamilton has shown his true colors, that smug arsewipe.
Radio commentary


For those who don't know Ron Dennis is the Team principal/boss of Mclaren.

*www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/070805105554.shtml
*www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article2199765.ece

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looooooool

watever it is, why did'nt the Team just let the two drivers fight it out on the track?

now see who suffered?

Alonso not only lost his P1, but his image as double champ also getting ruined, thanks to the team.

i think he should hav stayed with Renault or joined Ferrari, Kimi & Alonso = Prost & Senna type rivalry.

but what we got now is a not a good sporty rivalry

hey "Arsenal Gunners", forget about McLaren beating Ferrari, but a noob is beating a pro (Lewis beating Alonso)

the n00b wins ... gr8 dominance ... hes te next schumi ... amazing drive ... only he can ruin himself ....

s18000rpm said:

5:30pm

looooooool

watever it is, why did'nt the Team just let the two drivers fight it out on the track?

now see who suffered?

Alonso not only lost his P1, but his image as double champ also getting ruined, thanks to the team.

i think he should hav stayed with Renault or joined Ferrari, Kimi & Alonso = Prost & Senna type rivalry.

but what we got now is a not a good sporty rivalry

hey "Arsenal Gunners", forget about McLaren beating Ferrari, but a noob is beating a pro (Lewis beating Alonso)

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Got beaten by a n00b ya. Then getting penalized to 6th is funny, as no rules in the FIA says that. That incident was inside the team, the stewards did not have the right to stick up their arse, Oh wait a sec he is FIAMILTON the Golden boy of FIA, they listen to the media. FIA is a joke now.

No doubt this Arsewipe being a british in a british team is getting the first preference(well this news is pretty old though).

And ya he made the biggest mistake switching from renault.

FIA=Hamilton=Mclaren
MclarenMercedes should change their name to MclarenHamilton.

this is not only "British in a British team", its also b'coz of that HUGE media attention on Lewis = Ego adding up , & maybe Lewis's "new friends" the drug addict Rap, Hollywood,...stars have some contribution to Lewis' new manners.

talking "fu[k" to a guy who raised this kid from age of 12 (kart racing...) .

these noobs should understand the meaning of "Professional Racing".



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Alonso said:

"Right now Hamilton isn't talking to anyone in the team," the Spaniard added. "The situation has changed a lot from one race to another. I don't have any problems, it's the team who have the biggest one."

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more

when did that conversation take place i'm going to see the race repeat telecast

s18000rpm said:

hey "Arsenal Gunners",a noob is beating a pro (Lewis beating Alonso)

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Go take some hope from that

^ya whatever

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World champion Fernando Alonso has cast doubt on his future with McLaren after relations with his team-mate Lewis Hamilton reached an all-time low.

Source: BBC

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P1. Massa
P2. Lewis
P3. Kimi

finally....lets hope it finishes with Kimi in 1st and then massa and lewis.....

yeah we need ferrari to step up and hv lewis colliding with alonso

I want ferrari to win the constructors championship atleast...

constructors title is history for ferrari

btw sad news for f1 fans in india karun chandok just got hit by 2nd position driver after leading for 12 laps it was too close to call whose fault was it but professionally speaking karun made the mistake and should hv tried to take the position in the next corner(these are the kinda things gp2 is famous for,amateur driving)

wow.....Paula's lookin great......

u guys saw the mercedes ad of lewis and fernando?
andar kuch, bahar kuch..:

ankurgupta.me said:

I want ferrari to win the constructors championship atleast...

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This is gonna be ferrari's race

Both McLaren will be on the dirty side of the track. That means better starting chance for Kimi and Massa. If both the Ferrari's develop good lead on Alonso, who is on hard tires and may be fuelled heavily for long first run, it's all over for Alonso. All they have to fear about is Lewis now. He is the leader and he is no.2 on the grid.

a 1-2 after such a long time.

Alonso finally happy after his team mate's tyre puncture

RACE RESULT
P1. Massa
P2. Kimi
P3. Alonso

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Constructor's title within sight.

Ferrari off by just 11 points now.

"Neither McLaren got away well at the start of the race, with Hamilton immediately losing second to Raikkonen and Alonso dropping to sixth behind the two BMWs."

*www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/61806

The result brings Alonso to within five points of Hamilton in the standings, with Massa still 17 points behind.

I am so happy to see Ferrari dominate this way.
Poor Hamilton was so unlucky but that opens up the championship to 4 people now. I hope ferrari repeat the performance in Italy. It will lead to a great finish to the season with fights in both constructor's and driver's championship.

ALONSO got some life now hehehehe practically opens up mostly to him with just 5 races to go

Also wondering why this thread is not pinned

mehulved said:

I am so happy to see Ferrari dominate this way.
Poor Hamilton was so unlucky but that opens up the championship to 4 people now. I hope ferrari repeat the performance in Italy. It will lead to a great finish to the season with fights in both constructor's and driver's championship.

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Good to see Ferraris at the top again.

But saying hamilton POOR IMO is silly. He should be kicked in the butt along with his irritating father. He just got too lucky to even get that 4 points, lucky that his tyre puntured just before the pits.

That arrogant swiveling kid should learn to drive first, just pushing the car to its limit to get a better lap time is not always the clever thing to do. He learn't something today by puncturing his car. Good for him. Drving a F1 car in not something you do on a bl00dy playstation !

Anyway Congrats to Massa for his win.

Lauda tells Alonso to stop complaining

"Instead of complaining, moaning and b1tching, which is what Alonso is doing at the moment, all he needs to do is concentrate on driving quicker"

anyone know what happened to Jacques Villeneuve

a great start like Lewis, but...

s18000rpm said:

Lauda tells Alonso to stop complaining

"Instead of complaining, moaning and b1tching, which is what Alonso is doing at the moment, all he needs to do is concentrate on driving quicker"

anyone know what happened to Jacques Villeneuve

a great start like Lewis, but...

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This old prick Niki Lauda or L A U D A is know for his big fart mouth. Will he ever shut up. Nonsence biased comments by this d!ck.

The old ba$tard should put on his glasses and see who is driving faster.

Lauda

Fart mouth

Hackattack said:

That arrogant swiveling kid should learn to drive first, just pushing the car to its limit to get a better lap time is not always the clever thing to do. He learn't something today by puncturing his car. Good for him. Drving a F1 car in not something you do on a bl00dy playstation !

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Atleast he can do that. How many others can claim to do so?
And how many others have such a record to show off?
He's still young and he will take some time to learn.

Hackattack said:

Good to see Ferraris at the top again.

But saying hamilton POOR IMO is silly. He should be kicked in the butt along with his irritating father. He just got too lucky to even get that 4 points, lucky that his tyre puntured just before the pits.

That arrogant swiveling kid should learn to drive first, just pushing the car to its limit to get a better lap time is not always the clever thing to do. He learn't something today by puncturing his car. Good for him. Drving a F1 car in not something you do on a bl00dy playstation !

Anyway Congrats to Massa for his win.

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Cheers. It's ferrari 1-2.

IMHO, Lewis is the best of the rookies. Look at the way he drives. Perfect driving. Pushing the car to the limits and driving inch perfect race is what he is doing. If you say that the tyre puncture means he is bad driver, what about the other drivers retirements. Even Schumi has a tyre puncture last year, Kimi has suspension failure in Monaco when his car jumped over the kerb.

Lewis is certainly gonna break more records and will kick Alonso's b**t in coming races.

mehulved said:

Atleast he can do that. How many others can claim to do so?
And how many others have such a record to show off?
He's still young and he will take some time to learn.

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At least he can do what ? Drive aggresively. Only a fool like lewis and arrogant Rosberg can do that. Other 20 drivers are too smart to take that approach. I won't argue with his driving style... he is new....many drivers changed their driving style according to the car just like Kimi, Alonso...so may be he might just change as well. Who knows ?

Ya record to put him in the Guiness Books. Thanks to Alonso and Mclaren, A Rookie getting a top car with a 2x wdc as a teammate. Great ... Luckiest guy ever.

I will take you last statement though, i agree with that.

ambandla said:

Cheers. It's ferrari 1-2.

IMHO, Lewis is the best of the rookies. Look at the way he drives. Perfect driving. Pushing the car to the limits and driving inch perfect race is what he is doing. If you say that the tyre puncture means he is bad driver, what about the other drivers retirements. Even Schumi has a tyre puncture last year, Kimi has suspension failure in Monaco when his car jumped over the kerb.

Lewis is certainly gonna break more records and will kick Alonso's b**t in coming races.

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I you didn't notice I cheered for ferrari too.

Best of the rookies, smell my rats a$$.

Rosberg, Sutil, Kubica who are they then, they don't seem to exist. If you read my above post you will get what Iam trying to say. I don't like to repeat.

Ya his driving really amazed me yesterday. Great breaker errr... driver

For your kind information the circuit at turkey, especially the turn 8, thats the weakest zone for the bridgestone tyres. Similar for the Indy track turn 11-12. Every other drivers seems to know about that except Lewis. Just ease the throttle a bit at turn 8 Craneboy..no he wont listen...he wanted to catch those ferraris who were 0.6-0.9 sec quicker than maccas. Intelligen guy i would say

We will all see who is gonna break what records or cars.

ferrari will b pushing hard for a 1-2 at italy too xpect atleast 1 mclaren to run light in qualifying

let's all predict the winners

CC-Mclaren
WC-Fernando Alonso(i've got a gut feeling)

mods plz make this thread sticky after each race weekend this thread gets thrown out of sights

WHEN A TV INTERVIEWER pointed out to Michael Schumacher that his victory in the Italian Grand Prix in September was the 42nd of his career, surpassing the number of wins earned by the late Ayrton Senna, the German driver broke down and cried. For the first time, the world saw the human side of the icy Schumacher

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Schumacher cries after he beats Ayrton Senna' Record in 2000 .


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Briatore would welcome Alonso back

plz make the thread sticky.....

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Funny version - Alonso-Hamilton Hungary GP

if you have gmail account, then rate this video

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Edited version of new Merc-McLaren TV Ad



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Schumacher vs Hakkinen Monza 1998

The short but intense, and unusual, battle between Michael and Mika at the Italian GP in 1998.

Having nearly stalled on the start line Michael Schumacher has made his way past Villenueve and Irvine and chased down the McLaren of title rival Mika Hakkinen and is pressuring him for 2nd position, which is where this video kicks off.

Out front is David Coulthard in the sister silver arrow, who is running a two stop strategy (compared to the single stops of Mika and Michael) and attempting to break away.

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Funny Michael

@hackattack : watch your language ! this is a warning to you..!

shantanu said:

@hackattack : watch your language ! this is a warning to you..!

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What about others using little fun language ??

Aap to mere peeche par gaye. Think i am some sort of hacker, trying to hack this forum. LOL

What bad language did i use against any forum members, plz point out. ?

You are in the mood of banning me is guess ? I never get any warning whatsoever from other bigger forums.

I hardly visit this site.

And yo this is the way i write, not bad but funny, if only you can really get it. I don't see others complaining.

And if you and some few can't take the fun.

Go ahead. It doesn't matter.

I would like to hear what other members say.

And hey don't delete this post, like u did earlier. I want to see responses.

Too much moderation.

why r we fighting here........ ????

ok cool ! get responses man.. ! and your language is not upto mark..

and you talk of bigger forums.. why are you here then ?

and i am not in the mood of banning you until you cross the limits.. it was just a warning..

prateek_san said:

why r we fighting here........ ????

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I ain't fighthing ! look who started.

shantanu said:

ok cool ! get responses man.. ! and your language is not upto mark..

and you talk of bigger forums.. why are you here then ?

and i am not in the mood of banning you until you cross the limits.. it was just a warning..

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Whatever you say boss.

what do you mean by who started ?

and now let the other members say whose language is not upto mark !

and remember that you aren't a Hacker of whom this forum will be afraid of..

you are a member as everyone else.. all guys remain in limits and maintain forum decorum so i think you should too..

shantanu said:

what do you mean by who started ?

and now let the other members say whose language is not upto mark !

and remember that you aren't a Hacker of whom this forum will be afraid of..

you are a member as everyone else.. all guys remain in limits and maintain forum decorum so i think you should too..

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I was all well until u popped in.

Hacker LOL. It's just a funny nick name. Sheesh.

As far i know, i didn't insult anyone with my language, you are constanly. insulting me. I can say that George Bush is a jacka$$, but if i tell the same to some member that would be an insult, i would never do that. Because i know what i am saying. I never hurt any forum members until the case so like now you are making it become.

I come here to see some nice discussions going on here, not here to spoil it.

You are spoliling the fun.period.

This is my last post here i guess.

HAve fun.

Nice forum turning bitter.

and should this thread be made sticky ? if you guys want then let me know !

i didnt post here myself.. you post was reported as rude.. !

^^
oh yes plz


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btw .. vijay malaya really in talks or just a hype again

Hackattack said:

I ain't fighthing ! look who started.


Whatever you say boss.

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Thand rakho bhai...

Its an F1 thread...first ppl were fighting ovr Alonso and Kimi....then Mclaren and Ferrari and now user and mod....

forget that..continue with F1..

Well there is lot of catchup ferrari has to do in terms of WDC.. Unless Mclaren makes mistake or Ferrari improves more (its expected at Monza), Mclaren can breath easy..

Me being Ferrari fan...i think Kimi has to up his racing, he has to drive aggresive yet under limits. because it would be too stupid to commit unforced error at this time of championship...well massa can act as buffer for Kimi... eitherways Mclarens will be good competitors for each other through the race..

With BMWs improving...I feel that Kubica has good chance of playing spoilsport for either of teams by takin 3rd...Whatever it is if it has to go to east asia then these 2 races must be in favor of Ferrari...

Thread made a sticky..

shantanu said:

Thread made a sticky..

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WOW Great Thanks a lot

Yahoooooooooooooooooooooo ....... ... hehehehehehehehheheheheheeeeeeeee

@s18000rpm thanks for those videos

^^ fab videos thnx s18000rpm

Vijay Mallaya close to buying Spyker Ferrari team .... awesome means awesome ...

Source: cnn-ibn

^^^^
Will Mallaya Favour Narain????

Expecting a F1 Driver frm India Soooooon!

sure cud b possible..

when will the season(edited) 2007 end ? can anyone tell me ?

#17---FORMULA 1™ Grande Prêmio do Brasil 2007 (Sao Paulo)---19-21 October

2007 F1 World Championship Race Calendar

btw its season, not session

so it closes on 21st oct. !

yup

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Ayrton Senna - F1 McLaren MP4-5 vs 911 Turbo vs Honda Civic


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Why Ayrton Senna is the Greatest???
one of the reason...

F1 - Ayrton Senna rushes to Help fellow F1 driver who had a Accident

its official ... mallaya is now the MD of Spykar Ferrari ... Mallaya will have 3 board members out of 5 ... great going .... also this acquisition is in his personal capacity .... (personally salle k pass itna paisa hai hai toh kingfisher k pass kitna hoga) and kingfisher will continue to sponsor toyota

this makes vijay mallaya a key player in F1

look at this one guys....awesome driving by 3 greats of F1 *www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MEG88C3Mp0

F1 Williams Simulator

*www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=1125841841&channel=294380095

nicccce, wud love to have that simulator


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Mallya vows to put India on grid

now that he owns a team and spnsors 1 .... he will be bernie's friend ....

Indian Grand Prix plans still 'on track'
Monday, September 3rd 2007, 14:09 GMT



India remains on course to stage a Formula One Grand Prix after circuit designer Hermann Tilke carried out an inspection of possible sites for a track around New Delhi.

Tilke began a two-day visit of the venues and would provide his feedback to F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone.

"He has gone around and we have shown him a few places," Indian Olympic Association (IOA) president Suresh Kalmadi told Reuters. "He will go back and give his views to Bernie.

"We are happy with the progress," he said. "We are on track."

The IOA took up a conditional offer in June to stage a Formula One Grand Prix in 2009 following a letter from Ecclestone to Kalmadi listing tough conditions including various commercial agreements to be signed by the end of September.

Kalmadi was confident the IOA, busy with preparations for the 2010 Commonwealth Games, would meet the deadline.

Indian Formula One involvement has taken a leap with businessman Vijay Mallya teaming up with Spyker director for Formula One, Michiel Mol, in a bid to take over the cash-strapped Dutch team.

"Now, owning a F1 team, it is even more in my interest to make sure there is F1 Indian GP," Mallya said at the weekend.


*www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/62030

the talks are of a possible city race around delhi ... another monaco

thats obvious.

India cant make a full fledged Circuit, that too with such limited time.

hope its better.

Hyderabad was all set to get a F1 circuit till and Chandrababu even signed an agreement then the crappy Congress govt. came and washed it out.

u never know hyderabad might still get it ... yeh india bhai ... kuch bhi ho sakta hai

Chennai can also get a track, the next Bahrain

with so many Automotive giants here, it should get it.

BMW will support it
Merc. will support Mumbai/Pune

^^^^
Already Narain supported for that...
Me tooooo

we need a track near mumbai coz by that way we could have a rain race which would b gr8 since a race in india's hot climate would blow so many engines up and too many retirements.this will eventually put the indian gp out of contention after a few yrs

India is no hotter than Bahrain...

LOL

Race in Mumbai???

are you talking of Power Boat Race???

If there is a choice .. I would like to see a F1 track in Chennai. I belive that the temperature and humidity of chennai will push the engines and the drivers to the max, thats what I want to see. The only the best of the lot can win the race there.

mumbai believe me ... even if theres a race there will:

1. traffic
2. potholes filled with water

^^ Toh delhi kaunsa acha hai yahan toh rikshaw and reri wallas hai bahut.

delhi still has better roads ... a lot better roads as compared what we have here ....

But Delhi wont get it.They are looking for a place outside delhi in NCR.Noida may be Gurgaon.

jaipur is great with roads.. jaipur pune highway

if someone talks of Racing, then first thing that comes is Chennai, it has India's 1st proper Race Track (MMSC), then Coimbatore(recently got a track).

host the race @ Chennai, party at Pondy or B'lore

csczero said:

ALONSO got some life now hehehehe practically opens up mostly to him with just 5 races to go

Also wondering why this thread is not pinned

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ATLAST THE THREAD IS STICKY

Italy GP, qualifying results...

link

Bad Day For Us Ferrari Fans ......

^^ can any1 give any link to watch F1 Live Online????

I have links to watch cricket but not f1

McLaren-Mercedes FTW!

Ganeshkumar said:

^^ can any1 give any link to watch F1 Live Online????

I have links to watch cricket but not f1

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Pls give me any link if any1 know... i want to c tmrw's race online!

.. I never got that .. after searching for long.

only thing is live commentary at f1.com ... but thats no use.

its a McLaren 1-2.

race results

it was R.Barrichello with a Lap record of 1:21.046 in 2004

* Bows McLaren-Mercedes!

Now Felipe Massa is out of Championship contention (well, almost). I always believed that Alonso would be 3 times World Champion by the end of this season and seems it's most likely to happen.

yeah Alonso he is coming.......... you just cant write off two time world champion that easily

lol... McLaren 1-2 on ferrari land... so much for the spying **** which fia and ferrari have been conveniently using to harass McLaren (IMO)...

FA - Fat ASS won ... nothing to cheer about here ... bad day

saw the race after months!

rollcage said:

.. I never got that .. after searching for long.

only thing is live commentary at f1.com ... but thats no use.

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Hi!
Finally i got a link to watch f1 live online.... (Alll Sports)

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download thier player and watch it!!!

But I dont know whether it is legal site! So Moderators delete if it is not!

Edit (drgrudge)
It's illegal!

Hamilton admits McLaren exclusion possible

Lewis Hamilton at Monza admitted for the first time that Sunday's Italian Grand Prix might have been his last F1 race for a while.

The British rookie finished second at the Autodromo Nazionale, which brought his victorious McLaren team-mate Fernando within three points of his lead in the drivers' title.

But with the Woking based team now heading to the World Motor Sport Council ahead of next weekend's Belgian Grand Prix, Hamilton expressed concern at the possible sanctions that could result.

While most in the paddock agree that McLaren will minimally be docked of championship points for its involving in the espionage scandal, Hamilton also acknowledged the FIA's ultimate power.

"When you really think about that, you think 'wow, I could be out of a job next weekend and then what happens?'” he said in a pre-race interview on Sunday with the British broadcaster ITV.

Hamilton enjoyed a dream start to his formula one career this year, but said recent off-track developments have been like a ‘big knife’ to him and his team, including his childhood mentor Ron Dennis.

"I never actually thought I'd be sitting here saying I hate something about Formula One, but the politics and people wanting to be bigger than others is just incredible," he continued.

"F1 would not be the same without McLaren, so let's just keep our fingers crossed that nothing else is going to happen."

Source GMM
CAPSIS International

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Politics

^^^^plch(sound made by lips when one gets annoyed)

hate that word, that too here....

Ferrari on its way to win Construtors Championship

Source: NDTV

McLaren is stripped of constructors Points and no driver is not penalized

bad politics everywhere!

McLaren have been stripped of all their points from the 2007 season and been fined £50million.
Ron Dennis' outfit will have to prove there is no Ferrari involvement in their cars before they can race in next year's championship.
*www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,3-2007420785,00.html

yeah...but the drivers can still fight for the championship.....

iMav said:

Ferrari on its way to win Construtors Championship

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On its way? I think they have already won! I dont think BMW with 86 Points
will be any where close to claiming the championship. But is a good second season for BMW.

infra_red_dude said:

bad politics everywhere!

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aha. stealing 780 page document from Ferrari and fined is politics?

Remember. 100 million $ is a very large amount. But McLaren is a big team with lot of fundings and FIA finalized the amount to make sure it hurts McLaren. This way, next time, no other team will dare to spy on rivals. It is said that McLaren puts around $500 million every year for the development of car.

Now, they can pay that fine with the amount of money that they received by winning the races this seadon + some hard earned money.

now, such a bad name for McLaren. nothing's going good on their way.

still they are lucky to stay in Drivers championship. They deserve ousting from this years championship.

guys just read this

*f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2007/09/14/fia-divulge-mclaren-drivers-secrets/

F1-Live

Full FIA statement

This is where one should use Encrypted messages

Ganeshkumar said:

Hi!
Finally i got a link to watch f1 live online.... (Alll Sports)

<<Edited>>

download thier player and watch it!!!

But I dont know whether it is legal site! So Moderators delete if it is not!

Edit (drgrudge)
It's illegal!

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OOps! Sorry for that!

Today i could'nt watch formula1 qualifying bcoz star sports telecasted football & Espn cricket instead of formula1. I was watching this live timing board, it was not bad at all, keep this link handy guys, you might need it in this cricked crazy nation. here's the link *www.formula1.com/services/live_timing/live_timing.html# it requires a free registration.

1st-Raikonnen
2nd-Massa
3rd-Alonso
4th-Hamilton

aahh finally a 1st row start for ferrari after a long period ......

Rats... No more Bus Stop chicane

The TITLE RACE is gettin hot !!

1--- LEWIS 97
2--- Alonso 95
3--- KIMI 84

just the 3 races to go ! any prediction on who wins the championship ??

Awesome Race...
Hamilton on his way to winning the Championship!
Breathtaking driving by Massa in last lap...just loved it...

Kimi drove superb ....but just couldnt keep it tigh after passing Heikki ...damn
hamilton definatly won the championship now,.... great that its not alonso...

can someone giv link to Hamilton & Alonso quotes???

the recent ones, where Hamilton kinda humilated Alonso.

Race was boring, only last few (10) laps were good. its sad that Alonso crashed & Ferrari were forced to pit, otherwise it cud have been a Ferrari 1-2.

prateek_san said:

Kimi drove superb ....but just couldnt keep it tigh after passing Heikki ...damn
hamilton definatly won the championship now,.... great that its not alonso...

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20 more points to go you never know..

Briatore (Renault boss) confirms Alonso offer

*www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/62925

hailgautam said:

20 more points to go you never know..

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yeah i know still 20 more points to score...in that case hamilton has have a 0 points in one of the race...i cant see that happening....


it will be great seeing Cryonso leaving Mclaren ....

yea alonso shold leave the team else he will be kicked out of McLaren ..

Ralf is also leaving toyota but he will confirm hin next team after the season.

I have become a huge fan of Hamilton...but its sad to see the way Alonso is getting treated by Mclaren n Hamilton enjoyin every moment of it...Anyways i like this kid...He is the future of F1...I wud like to c him grabbin the world championship soon...


Cheers,
Kunal

Muhahaha

Hamilton retires from the Chinese GP
Championship leader Lewis Hamilton suffered his first retirement of the season after he went off the track at the Chinese Grand Prix.

The McLaren driver lost control of his car when trying to make his second pitstop, going off at the entry of the pitlane. He ended up stuck in the gravel and was unable to return to the track.

Hamilton, 12 points ahead of teammate Fernando Alonso before the end of the race, needed to finish ahead of the Spaniard and Kimi Raikkonen to clinch the title.

His retirement left Raikkonen in the lead with Alonso in second, meaning the title battle is likely to go down to the wire.

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may he & Alonso retire in next race & Kimi win the Champonship

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Race Results
*s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/untitled-20071007024931.jpg


P1.Kimi
P2.Alonso
P3.Massa (today's fastest man)

Great Race by Kimi...
Loved it when Hamilton got stuck in gravel!!
I just hope that Kimi wins it in Brazil but that seems very difficult..
Don't want Alonso to win atleast

^^^
Exactly same!

Dont want Alonso to Win... its better to be hamilton!

i just dont want alonso to win ....who ever wins..

What a season this has been.....

So many Alonso haters r here!!!

Dunno why is everyone against Alonso... people here, the drivers and even his own team!!!!

Spectacular show by Kimi

I want Alonso to win

Arsenal_Gunners said:

I want Alonso to win

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start doing prayers then....cuz that wont be happening ....

infra_red_dude said:

Dunno why is everyone against Alonso... people here, the drivers and even his own team!!!!

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Who'll like crybabies?

start praying for kimi i so badly want him to win.maybe alonso will take out hamilton at brazil for a fine but atleast he'll not have his ego hurt by loosing to a rookie(that's just the WWE creative thing going on in my mind )

the reason i want kimi to win coz i havent seen the best or the glory days of my idols.

i never got to see and understand what the rock did or how he won the wwe championship so many times.
i never saw y2j win the undisputed title.
i never saw schumi in his prime and his hard fought championship wins.
i never heard linkin park's first 2 albums when they were released
i never saw any of the american pie series when they were released.


lol that's a lot of things i've missed but i don't wanna miss this one!

^^HAHA .. big list you got there man ...

Hamilton has the better chance of wining, but you never know what lies ahead.
Kimi .. can win .. he has a mathematical chance .. as everyone is saying.
but don't forget ya .. Hamilton .. just needs 4 points to win ..
kimi would need 10points and also pray that hamilton again has a bad luck with Fernando aka fat-ass need to finish low.
I would have loved to see Massa win .. but he didnt had the chance and again he was forced to support the Kimi throught the season ..Kimi says in the begining that he wasnt finding the pace in the car, point is kimi always does this.. its his luck not to win. he missed out earlier too.
its all ifs and buts..
Ferrari had to justify the huge money paid to Iceman rather they should have supported.. Massa instead.
But the Fact remains
.. its the end of the day only cars
.. no-one except Ferrari & Mclaren has the courage to win.
.. i rephrase actually Noone had the car to win or challenge Ferrari or McLaren in 2007 season

after the change in regulations Renault got the advantage // and they won in 2005 & 2006.
this year .. from nowhere McLaren came-up in 2007 to lead.
Next year Honda will come .. but its unlikely. Renault may bounce back.
Williams and BMW will again fight for 4th & 5th place.

Its all about cars .. nothing of racing. nothing for drivers.
we just hope that one driver wins .. but actually we know that its always between two guyz .. who have the best cars.

..

Newsupdate 9/10/07..
Wurz has retired from the F1 in the middle of the season.
may be some fight within Williams. and The Great Frank williams giving the Seat to a new rookie..
bcoz he is again the son of some old F1 driver as was the case in Nico RosBurger in 2006.
Williams is no way near their prime.

Mclaren need to thank Ferrari for this season coz there is a Ferrari in that Mclaren.

The drivers should have been punished imho, not fair. Also the point system is total crap, there should be more gap between the points alloted to 1st and 2nd place finishes. At this rate, anyone can win the championship by always placing 2nd, its wrong, the driver with the most wins should be champion always,

Alonso has been tricked by Mclaren, poor man, he's a Champion ffs, he deserved better. Better he get back to Renault and kick Mclaren's ass. I always thought Alonso in a Ferrari would be absolutely devastating but alas that chance is ruled out by Ferrari announcing no such thing's gonna happen.

I'm rooting for Kimi from the start, hope he gets his Championship at Ferrari.

As for the last race, hoping Alonso and Lewis take each other out and Kimi cruise to victory

......you never know, outside chance,......anythings' possible

Alonso commits to Renault return in 2008
Fernando Alonso has signed a letter of intent to rejoin Renault starting next January (2008), according to emerging reports.

Germany's Bild newspaper said the document is the precursor to a definitive three-year contract (2008-2010), but only if the reigning world champion can successfully negotiate an end to his current McLaren deal.

Alonso is currently under contract to McLaren also for 2008, with an option to continue in 2009.

The news of Alonso's likely return to Renault follows reports that Toyota was offering the

Spaniard a record retainer to switch to the Japanese car giant for 2008.

The German magazine Sport Bild said the Cologne based team was prepared to fork out (US) $150 million for a three year deal; a comparable amount of money to that earned by Michael Schumacher at Ferrari towards the end of his illustrious career.

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1 of the cause for Hamilton's Chinese GP retirement

*www.autosport.com/gallery/picture_free.php/dir/2007chi4/image/XPB_0J1L05C03DJP1D0NU3EGW-2

^^ nice pic there .. clearly the tyres gone man. he took a big risk there.


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Massa pens new Ferrari deal

Felipe Massa is set to remain at Ferrari
until the end of 2010 after signing a new deal with the Scuderia.
*images.teamtalk.com/07/10/240/Felipe_Massa_581284.jpg

Massa's future has been the topic of some debate
with reports suggesting that he's heading to Toyota
next season to make way for Fernando Alonso.

*www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_2803530,00.html

Mclaren need to thank Ferrari for this season coz there is a Ferrari in that Mclaren.

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True .. waise it happens always teams try to find others secret... just that it was proved this time in court.

the point system is total crap, there should be more gap between the points alloted to 1st and 2nd place finishes. At this rate, anyone can win the championship by always placing 2nd, its wrong, the driver with the most wins should be champion always,

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Yes, everyone says this .. still we cant see a change. point system is totally crap. 10 8 6 5 4 3 2 1.. wat the hell

Alonso has been tricked by McLaren, poor man, he's a Champion ffs, he deserved better. Better he get back to Renault and kick Mclaren's ass. I always thought Alonso in a Ferrari would be absolutely devastating but alas that chance is ruled out by Ferrari announcing no such thing's gonna happen.

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Ferrari did the right thing .. FA don't deserve the Ferrari seat. I am not starting a Anti Alonso thing here .. but just have a look at this video. Michael Schumacher For Life !! --> *www.youtube.com/watch?v=geQvkZuBSHo <--- [See at 1.24 .. see what Fat Ass doing here]
*img513.imageshack.us/img513/6524/michaelschumacheryi9.th.jpg
He is anti Schumi .. he should give respect to a guy who has won so many times or who is your senior. also There has been numerous occasions where Schumi has given tips to fellow driver or rookie driver even to another team mate..our own Narain got few tips from him in 2005. on the Alonso part .. never .. done this. Infact .. abused some other drivers. .. I don't say he is a bad driver but he is not a good person. If Alonso was a Anti-Schumi .. he will never get into Ferrari .. I say Never. he is always dissatisfied with one thing or the other. He had problems with Renaul left that. Now crying at McLaren. holy crap .. crying Baby FA. Alonso is disgrace to Formula1.

as for championship .. Kimi should win although .. Hamilton is hot fav ..

guess who celebrated his birthday yesterday (17-10-2007) jus like me (had food, tats all)------- Kimi Räikkönen (born October 17, 1979)

Boy o boy.. I can't wait to watch the next GP. After Mika left this season has been prolly the most interesting one

is this season over ?

^^This weekend will be the last race shantanu.. you can close this thread after a few days.

actuallly will only have to remove it from sticky status , thats what i am directed to ;D (on 22nd )

^^
Oh no .. season coming to an end ... nahiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii


@rollcage .. nice clip there .. and photo of schumi is also good.
ya we know Alonso may be fine driver BUT He is not a Good Person .. hahahaha

@s18000rpm
Hey dude ... congrats ... and belated Happy Birthday dood ...
kya baat hai ... enjoy karo ...in ur bmw ..

^ thank you.

oh man, i'm gonna miss this season's finale

coz the quali. & race starts at 21:30 (IST) on saturday & sunday respectively.

i thought i wud go to b'lore(KGF) & watch & record that race on sunday & come back in 3:30pm train . but i've to be here @ Chennai monday morning

Why no access to TV back there in chennai?

Chennai = no Star Sports (or any other, jus local channels)

i'll need to get a Set-Top Box to watch them, or get 2000buks(which i dont have) & goto some pub to watch it.

time to play the game guyz!