Need help with thermal paste for Core2Quad Q9550. I'm switching to it and will need a paste to apply on it. AS5 is too expensive and as I'm not overclocking, AS5 is unnecessary. Any help for a cheap one?
Thermal Paste
Get noctua nt -h1 from primeabgb.
But call then and confirm availability before making payment.
I ordered one RAM from them on Oct 14th, and still no response.
But call then and confirm availability before making payment.
I ordered one RAM from them on Oct 14th, and still no response.
-1 to AS V. That sucks.
+1 to Noctua NT-H1
+1 to Noctua NT-H1
H1 is good, atleast the ones that I get from Noctua. You can check out the usual MX2 but last time I checked it was too 'watery'. I think you get CM thermalfusion 400.
couldnt find CM thermalfusion 400 anywhere.
Get noctua nt -h1 from primeabgb.
But call then and confirm availability before making payment.
I ordered one RAM from them on Oct 14th, and still no response.
mailed them
AS5 sucks ....wow I never knew that! I shouldve met you when I was contemplating and finally switched from OCZ Freeze to AS5. Can you enlighten me as to why AS5 sucks, Sir?
It is alright when we are at temps around ~50-60 degrees which was hot for a few years ago. Nowadays, cards have Tjunction points of nearly 105 degrees so 50-60 degrees is not much.
Above 60 degrees, the effectiveness of ASV is 1 degrees inferior to normal stock thermal paste.
In my case
normal went upto 92.
ASV=94.
I applied AS V twice to confirm this.
Now I switched from ASV to IC Diamond 24(Arguably the best right now).
Now I have temps of 80 degrees on same OC.
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PS: IC Diamond works better the harder it is pushed.
AS5 is doing great. BF4 used to make the CPU i7 3770K do 67C+, AS5 and Hyper 212 is keeping it below 47C at any cost. The problem was that it was not applied properly in the first instance, don't follow the PEA procedure with AS5. Secondly AS5 takes 200 hrs of Curing before its magic happens,two things that you should always keep in mind. Back in 2008/09 then we had even hotter proccys and cards, it worked great then it still works great now,the trickiest part is ....Proper Application.
Told you, it works well at low temps.
1) I waited 5 months for 200 hours curing time to be over but to no avail.
2) I applied it exactly the same way I applied IC Diamond. Mind telling me why IC Diamond works so much better?
3) Application technique was center blob spread.
AS V was golden a few years ago, not now.
Its still gold,just spread it like butter on both the CPU and Heatsink in thin layers ( not transparent) and you are good to go.
105C which processor???!!! That's not normal even for a FX9370/9590
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105C which processor???!!! That's not normal even for a FX9370/9590
105C which processor???!!! That's not normal even for a FX9370/9590
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Its still gold,just spread it like butter on both the CPU and Heatsink in thin layers ( not transparent) and you are good to go.
105C which processor???!!! That's not normal even for a FX9370/9590
1) Center spread is the best method to apply TIM as it eliminates all air bubbles.
2) core i7 3632QM.
Some corrections:
CPU Usage 100% for 15 mins
ASV=105 degrees celsius.
IC D=75 degrees celsius.
GPU Usage 100% for 15 mins
ASV=94 degrees celsius.
ICD=80 degrees celsius.
There's no hard and bound thumb rule for applying TIM, trust me. Its exactly why people mess up.If PEA or Center Spread doesn't work then butter method works the best or vice versa.
Nevertheless, AS V has lost its touch especially for high temps.
ICD is the way to go if you're dealing with 80+ temps.
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@seamon and @The Incinerator, what are your impressions about the Deepcool Z9 thermal paste? I recently purchased a unit from Snapdeal, to use on one of my laptops, which I am yet to do.
@seamon and @The Incinerator, what are your impressions about the Deepcool Z9 thermal paste? I recently purchased a unit from Snapdeal, to use on one of my laptops, which I am yet to do.
I think that's an Indian brand.
That's good enough if you're not overclocking.
For overclocking, especially laptops, IC Diamond is the way to go. Best paste in the world right now.
@seamon and @The Incinerator, what are your impressions about the Deepcool Z9 thermal paste? I recently purchased a unit from Snapdeal, to use on one of my laptops, which I am yet to do.
Deepcool is a Chinese Brand and is an OEM to Dell and Fujitsu etc etc. They have been around for quite some time making affordable but quality stuff from CPU coolers to Cabinets. The Z9 is a well known and well regarded product from their Z line of thermal grease which also has lower priced Z3 and Z5 in that series. It stands shoulder to shoulder with Prolimatech ,AS5 ,Tuniq TX 3 and IC Diamond.Its a Tier 1 product and just not some Indian brand as pointed out by our dear friend here.Overall a very good buy. But the TX5 would have been slightly better and cheaper. Give the TX9 some time to settle in it will perform as intended.So,you can over clock with the Z9 between an AMD 9590 and its cooler as hard as you want to!!!!
Look at the Chart here.. Thermal Compound Roundup - February 2012 | Hardware Secrets
The sheer lack of good reviews for Z9 makes it's origin doubtful. My bad.
Deepcool Z9 comparable to ICD
ICD is the best stuff for laptops right now because it ignores the type of contact between the core and heatsink.
For temps above 80(which laptops usually reach), nothing is better than ICD.
For low ranges of 50-60 even ASV is good.
^^^^ [MENTION=248727]seamon[/MENTION] That's why its important to read and read some more.
Which ICD are you reffering to 7 Carat or 24 Carat? The HW Secrets review states its no better or in the same league as the Z9....
I'm even more surprised that you actually never have heard of Deep cool,seriously?
Which ICD are you reffering to 7 Carat or 24 Carat? The HW Secrets review states its no better or in the same league as the Z9....
I'm even more surprised that you actually never have heard of Deep cool,seriously?
wwll idk what you people are talking about 
btw i ordered Noctua NT-H1
btw i ordered Noctua NT-H1
Congrats and a great buy.
thanks for the help everyone
^^^^ [MENTION=248727]seamon[/MENTION] That's why its important to read and read some more.
Which ICD are you reffering to 7 Carat or 24 Carat? The HW Secrets review states its no better or in the same league as the Z9....
I'm even more surprised that you actually never have heard of Deep cool,seriously?
I researched for months before buying ASV. Everywhere they stated that the top thermal pastes are all good. I thought since it won't make much of a difference why not go for ASV as it is a reference paste.
It was a big mistake.
I was also about to go for Deepcool Z9 before I found ASV in primeabgb.
The thing is Internet reviews are based on low temps(50-60). Nobody bothers to go higher up to 80-90s.
Every Custom Laptop uses ICD. There's a reason that is so good for laptops.
Also ICD 7 Carat and 24 Carat is the same stuff, just different in amount of paste.
Of course I knew about that. I researched for a long time time remember? Pure diamonds are hard. They will scrape off anything written on the core.
The thing is I don't care. This is one thing I can trade off for ICD performance. I am already voiding my warranty by opening the laptop in the first case.
The thing is you love to be ignorant. Peace out and let's not waste time.
Any views on MX2 ? I am using it for laptop. Is there something better than this avaialble within 1k ?
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I guess not.
and the guys discussion above ,you realize the difference in Mounting pressure right ? the AS5 will be not very effective with that laptop Heatsink compared to how great it will be with a Hyper 212 which has high mounting pressure
The thing is I base my answers on experimental verification. I don't randomly copy pasta things from the Internet.
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It's very good too. Arctic MX-4, it's successor, is better. Is MX-2 in your laptop not performing very well?
Last time i did a tim job on my lappy and temps dropped very well.....but few months down the line it started to reach peak 100s again .
The tim shouldn't dry up so soon.
The tim shouldn't dry up so soon.
The only sad part is your basics are fundamentally flawed and hence your "experiments", if that's what you call them Hardware Secrets is a pretty respected techsite and they probably know a thing or two more than you do. Now let's not contest that! And I hope you believe the fact too that you are not the only one having Experimented with cooling in this forum,we all have and hence the reference. And of course none of us has the inventory or supply of all the TIM in the market,do we. Even you read from the internet that ICD is good,it didn't come in your dreams, or did it? Eh. So admit it. We all take references from the net and ain't scientists doing EXPERIMENTS!!! LOL.
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Get Arctic Silver 5 it stays on for very long,it needs curing of 200hrs just to set in and perform. Make a proper application and you are fine. Noctua NH1 or Thermal Fusion 400 are also good options. Application is the key to any thermal compound. The gamers these days wants instant result with Silver based compounds,but that's defying Chemistry and Physics altogether. Silver particles need time and heat to smother and set in filling the gaps appropriately.These days they jump to conclusions very fast and that's exactly why AS5 or other Silver compunds are misunderstood. Employ the Dot and Coating method,it works the best when combined.
I am a little skeptical in choosing electrically conductive TIMs. Since , it's a laptop , so the risk is even higher as everything is pretty much glued together . A speck of AS5 on PCB and kaboom!
That's why I generally refrain from Silver or metallic based compounds.
I use the bread-butter method to apply tim , as MX-2 is kind of easy to spread .
Order Arctic Silver V if you want to waste ~600 rupees because it's not gonna do much for laptops.
I was in a similar position 2 months ago. ASV failed very badly for my laptop and I got worse temps than stock paste. I tried everything. I waited for 200 hr cure in time to end and then reapplied again but I got no better temps than 94. I wondered and researched what else I should try. I was about to go for MX-4.
Then I thought why waste money on another useless paste which may or may not give the desired results.
So, I went ahead and ordered IC Diamond.
Believe me, I don't regret my decision. It's the best stuff ever.
The price is nothing when compared to the value of the laptop it is protecting.
So, take my advice. Don't waste your money on any other products, go for IC Diamond 24.
BEST STUFF EVER.
Nowadays my temps never go above 80 degrees(94 on Arctic Silver V). Moreover, I applied ICD all over the board including the vRAM chips etc.
I can't stress highly enough how good this stuff works for laptops.
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You're assuming that ICD is same as ASV in the temp ranges of 80-90 degrees without ever read/experimented.
I have conducted extensive experiments on both pastes. Try not to be so obstinate.
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I am saying that at the temp ranges of 50-60, it is the same because it is not high.
ICD works better the higher it is pushed. ASV loses its efficiency once high temps are attained.
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[MENTION=140405]Hrishi[/MENTION]
Also, it is fairly easy to avoid ASV contact with PCB as a little can be wiped off using Isopropyl Alcohol.
But, take my word and DON'T buy it. You'll just be wasting money.
ICD is extremely worth it.
AS5 is not runny or watery in nature so that wont be a problem. If you have reservations about silver compounds choose between a Noctua or the excellent Thermal Fusion 400.
In many reviews I read some time ago, deepcool z5 was performing better or more than equal than z9.
This is because Z5 ignores the quality of contact between core and heat sink.
Some pastes(ASV and Z9) work very well when a high amount of pressure exists between core and heatsink. This is not feasible in case of laptops because of space issues so pastes which work well irrespective of contact are the way to go for laptops(Z5 and ICD).
This is one of the reasons why ASV should be avoided for laptops.
I don't like the MX-2 that you get, atleast the one with white coloured packaging. The older MX-2 (grey coloured packaging) and the larger syringe one (i think that is still grey coloured packaging) is much better than the white one. I have one MX-2 paste just lying around. Earlier NT-H1 pastes used to do that, but newer ones have much better lifespan and doesn't seem to dry up quickly.
I think Antec has some thermal pastes too, but those are diamond-based I guess. You can try pinging Antec India or CM India to know where can you buy their brand's thermalpaste. Last time I checked, CM's paste is available in some store in Mumbai, but they don't have an online site. No harm in asking.
I would love to ping Antec India, but considering my last sour interaction where try to pressuring me to justify an 8k case with no radiator mounts and review a psu with a different perspective, I prefer to stay away from them. But they do have some good stuff.
I think Antec has some thermal pastes too, but those are diamond-based I guess. You can try pinging Antec India or CM India to know where can you buy their brand's thermalpaste. Last time I checked, CM's paste is available in some store in Mumbai, but they don't have an online site. No harm in asking.
I would love to ping Antec India, but considering my last sour interaction where try to pressuring me to justify an 8k case with no radiator mounts and review a psu with a different perspective, I prefer to stay away from them. But they do have some good stuff.
Will see if mx2 works well this time or not.....else I am going in for ICD.