+1, its basically a fraud.
Yeah, I saw a tv commercial too. It went like several businessmen & businesswomen were fighting over to invest in a app that a small child has coded, and the parents of that child were proudly telling this story to a neighbor. So, yeah this one's definitely like byjus, forcing gullible parents (which is the majority of parents, bcoz of how they are sensitive towards giving their child "the best") to buy their package, without any ethics.
No one does, they want to make drones out of kids. All they care about is money. They don't even care about their own employees
Oo that explains soo much.
Yes, but the main problem is many parents don't even wanna listen that the company is just extorting money from them. There ain't just parents who fall into the trap, many students join these "free" classes just cause they are desperate. The covid19 hasn't helped much in that regard. I myself haven't seen any good "free classes" except khanacademy ( which is not laser focused on Indian curriculum) to give 'em a alternative........................
This is certainly not true(imo). According to me if a parent is more educated but is unable to give time/effort to his child's education, he is significantly more likely to fall for this crap.
I framed the opinion after speaking to an IIT Kanpur professor who is a relative of mine. I asked him if what he thinks of Byjus and the "modern education" thing.
Its a dog eat dog world, ease of doing business in india is lowest. So the only easy alternative is to eat the other people
Oh, you seem to know this stuff, the thought never came to my mind that in biju's not only ruin parents and students but also their teachers. That's really sad. Its like this company is run by robots, the only difference being , robots probably have more humanity than them.
The instinct of most businessmen's are to cheat and make money, the only difference between Indian business men is the can get away with it. Authorities either don't care or are corrupted away and even new channels consider bringing "death of a single actor" in limelight more important than suffering of thousands.
Yeah this is can also be a factor. Newcomers are shooed away and only the hard-hearted can thrive.
Yes, im dumbfounded too
What they advertise:- | What they give:- |
| 1. Learn "coding" (Mind the word coding) at the age of 5-7 | They are teaching MIT app inventor, which does not include any code. Just blocks. Which is not "coding" |
| 2. Create a new and innovative app. | Seriously, Like if one visits their website, Half of it is filled with default examples of MIT app Inventor. And the remaining are Calculators. really? |
| 3. Get Job at google/Microsoft and other big firms etc. | a.This is pretty much not possible, as common sense says, 5 year olds, will at least take 15-17 years for their graduation and all, and by then, what is the guarantee that the blocks which they learnt will be functional? b. Google may hire people without degree, but will never hire 5 year old who know nothing but just a few blocks. c. Does the certificate which they give at the end of course of any value? It ain't a degree certificate |
So your brother had to take the course or parents/guardians had the rights to deny this extra class?
)
Wew lol. That's some seriously detailed rant !
Yeah, government even banned any other books other than NCERT a while back(for both gov. and private) and there were raids in schools to find out if someone carried a supplementary book.
I feel ya, tho we didn't had chemistry in 4th.
Oh, school is till 5th only?
Umm.............. I am not too sure about them, learning from good youtube videos and online courses, is as , if not more effective than books imo. Sure this is a case that makes everyone sad about the dangers of online courses, but I think we should not generalize this into EVERYTHING. Good sources like khan academy do such a great job of teaching khan academy, that my ol' teachers cannot ever hope to achieve. I dunno about coding, but I learned blender online, and I learnt much more than I could with a FastTrack, I could practice as I learn which would be not possible , or at least an inconvenience , when learning with a book. I take a not so radical approach to learning medium, there is no reason to consider one is good while other is bad, learning from book is ok and good for teaching in school, but we all know learning with the machine online interactively, is far more intuitive.
Moral of the story? Don't name urself whitehat sr, just like you don't name ur company green apple. They got such an ezy reason, to ban him lol.
Well, to be fair, this seems like what a student in 5th grade would say, so maybe she is only 5th pass?
*www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/j4yqdh/update_on_byjus_the_internet_mafia_and_whitehatjrthat forbes article was because of the redditor's persistence tbh
It's not new, byju's the parent company has been doing this since years.
WTF! Letting the truth out is "defamation" now?
Whistleblower protection should be mandatory in every civilized society. Too bad
In the end, this is india and whoever has the more paid or better lawyer wins.
Correct me if I'm wrong, for Whistleblower protection, shouldn't Poonia be an employee of the company ? Or anybody who exposes malpractices of an organization is a Whistleblower ?
You are right, poonia will be termed as a leaker not a whistleblower. Just googled whistleblower vs leaker
The "Wolf Gupta" kid was a fabrication as per the legal notice served by them to Poonia.
Agreed. It's more of an argument of whether the service is value for money or not. Though personally I think the whole premise of their business is kind of flawed because charging close to one lakh for very elementary programming courses to kids belonging to an age group who would not be able to grasp the concepts is not fair. Also, their marketing about kids getting a 30 lakh job at Google is pretty shady marketing. On that basis I think they are in the wrong.
Seems sexist and racist at the same time.
Actually it's a result of school teachers and college professors not paid enough. If they were paid as much as the coaching class peers, it would attract more talented people, and overall we would not need to rely on coaching etc.
Yes teachers are not paid enough but it is only in case of small schools & colleges which are not well funded. Other wise if you go check some esteemed colleges & schools they are payed well.
Actually that money is all gobbled up by administration and management, it doesn't reach the teachers or atleast the teachers who just teach and not be part of administration.
Damn, that's called persistency!
If this was US, then he would have a good chance of coming out on top. Unfortunately that's not the case.
WTF, don't suggest them ideas to make gaming worse.
Death by Heart attack is better than Death by Corona
Bajaj Group people are rather okay.
Their finance and loan businesses are often criticised for their unscrupulous and scammy behaviour.
Reported for spam
Is this not against some kind of rules by the Competition Commission of India ?
Maybe, but considering how powerful it has become, it may have contacts higher up.
Possible. I remember this issue being raised in the Parliament discussion without naming the company.
Even the MPs are afraid of naming the company. They need to stop this before they grow too powerful.
In Parliament you cannot name any company or person, unless they are members of Parliament.
Because Money matters a lot in Business. They would sacrifice their ethics and morale for MONEY.
Obviously. He has enough money to retire quietly.
But he's under investigation by the ED, he shouldnt be allowed to leave the country. WTF is going on lol