Upgarding my cpu..suggestions please!!

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hey all,
i need help in buying components for my new cpu..

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: gaming and basic 3d design (blender 3d, zbrush mostly)..should be able to run latest games..

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: 40k for the whole cpu...including processor, motherboard, gpu, psu, case, HDD...

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: maybe in future..

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Windows 7

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: 250 gb should be fine..

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: No monitor

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: Monitor, mouse, keyboard, speakers, ups, optical drive.

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: in a week

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: by an assembler.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: i'll buy it in Gurgaon or Delhi.. please suggest some reliable computer stores also..

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans:i want the processor and the motherboard to be future proof, as for the gpu i want a decent model that will do for 1-2 years..after that i can upgarde to a better one..

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What is the resolution of your current monitor ?

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22 inch 1920 x 1080

Component Make Price
CPU AMD Phenom II 960T 6960
Motherboard Biostar A880GZ 3450
RAM G.Skill RipjawsX 4GB DDR3 1530
GPU MSI Radeon HD6850 8850
HDD WD Caviar Blue 500 GB 4100
Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B3ST 1135
Case Zebronics Bijli 1200
PSU Corsair CX430V2 2500
UPS APC 600VA 1900
Total 31625

>I don't know by how much you can extend your budget, if you can push a bit more get a true 6 core CPU like 1075T or abetter motherboard like ASUS M5A88-M.

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budget revised...i can spend 40k.. :lol:

Then made the following changes in the Rigod's config:
Processor: FX-8120 @ 9600
Motherboard: Asus M5A-880M @ 5200
Graphics Card: MSI GTX 560 1 GB GDDR5 (Non Ti) @ 10500
Cabinet: NZXT Source 210 Elite

Total: 38,865.

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Cilus said:
Then made the following changes in the Rigod's config:
Processor: FX-8120 @ 9600
Motherboard: Asus M5A-880M @ 5200
Graphics Card: MSI GTX 560 1 GB GDDR5 (Non Ti) @ 10500
Cabinet: NZXT Source 210 Elite

Total: 38,865.

is the FX-8120 suitable for my purpose? is it future proof?

i was thinking about i5 2500k..

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^^ You won't get a good z68 board in that budget. FX 8120 has more cores so it'll help you in 3d rendering work.

Actually for your usage, it is very much suitable. Also overclocking FX series is real fun, you can reach 4 GHz with the stock cooler, although not recommended.

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the_conqueror said:
^^ You won't get a good z68 board in that budget. FX 8120 has more cores so it'll help you in 3d rendering work.

and what about gaming? will it be able to run latest games like Max Payne 3, Assassins Creed 3 at high settings ??

and what if i settle for a decent graphic card and buy a z68 board.. because as i said i want the processor and the motherboard to be future proof..

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Cilus said:
Then made the following changes in the Rigod's config:
Processor: FX-8120 @ 9600
Motherboard: Asus M5A-880M @ 5200
Graphics Card: MSI GTX 560 1 GB GDDR5 (Non Ti) @ 10500
Cabinet: NZXT Source 210 Elite

Total: 38,865.

Fx-8120 have integrated graphics, can they be used in crossfire with external graphics card?

Correct if i am wrong but same can be done with Intel procy.

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i dont need ups and optical drive..

what if i go with something like this..
though i am not sure if the components are compatible with each other..

Component Make Price
CPU intel i5 2500k 13250
Motherboard ASUS P8Z77-M 10600
RAM G.Skill RipjawsX 4GB DDR3 1530
GPU MSI R6850 Cyclone 1 GB GDDR5 9878
HDD WD Caviar Blue 500 GB 4100
Case Cooler Master Elite 310 1950
PSU Corsair CMPSU-500CXV2UK 3611
Total 44919

also these are flipkart prices..so i can expect a little less in local market..

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The components are compatible but the mobo isn't very good for OCing(no heatsink over vrm, less power phases). For your purpose FX 8120 is more than enough. Gaming is GPU dependant at high resolutions, so i5 2500k or FX 8120 won't make much difference.

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the_conqueror said:
The components are compatible but the mobo isn't very good for OCing(no heatsink over vrm, less power phases). For your purpose FX 8120 is more than enough. Gaming is GPU dependant at high resolutions, so i5 2500k or FX 8120 won't make much difference.

i read somewhere that due to 8 cores FX8120 faces heating problems?

and also if it is okay for gaming and other general uses then why most people go for intel ? :-?

Hannibal09 said:
Fx-8120 have integrated graphics, can they be used in crossfire with external graphics card?

Correct if i am wrong but same can be done with Intel procy.

AMD FX series doesn't have onboard IGP, you are confusing it with Llano and Trinity. Their IGP can be Crossfired with AMD cards upto HD 6670.

For Crossfire or SLI, the minimum is to have GPU from same vendor and we don't have Intel Graphics card. So Intel GPUs can't be used simultaneously with any other Gfx card.

AnaRCHist, at 1080P or higher resolution, Graphics card plays he major role, not CPU. You need a CPU which shouldn't bottleneck the GPU. So a better Graphics card with a good quad core is enough for 1080P. Even a Phenom II 965 will serve your purpose. Sadly they are not available anymore.

AnaRCHist said:
i read somewhere that due to 8 cores FX8120 faces heating problems?

Wrong piece of info.

and also if it is okay for gaming and other general uses then why most people go for intel ?

Price of 8 core FX series processors used to be higher that the present price.
All games do not use more than 8 cores. They can use only 4 cores.
And, performance per core is better for Intel than AMD.

^ +1 poor PSU. poor CPU. also low end GPU. Can do a lot better

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so will it be a wise decision to go for FX8120 and a better gpu like gtx 560ti ??

FX8120 is okay but 560Ti is an outdated GPU, go for HD7850 instead.

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RiGOD said:
FX8120 is okay but 560Ti is an outdated GPU, go for HD7850 instead.

what is the price range for HD7850 cards?

^^15.3-16k

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what about this one?

Component Make Price
CPU AMD FX 8120 9911
Motherboard Asus M5A-880M 5200
RAM G.Skill RipjawsX 4GB DDR3 1530
GPU Gigabyte AMD GV-R7850OC 2 GB 16830
HDD WD Caviar Blue 500 GB 4100
Case Cooler Master Elite 310 1950
PSU Seasonic S12II-520 520 W 3972
Total 43493

flipkart prices again..

i am still reluctant to go for Bulldozer series..i am always seeing posts like this one..

[Solved] I5 2400 or FX 8120? - CPUs - CPU-Components

what do you people think? is i5 2400 a better choice?

also one thing to keep in mind is that i am not going to upgrade again in the coming 2-3 years..so will the FX 8120 do the job?

I am using the I5 2400 and it is just awesome.

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guys i need you help......i am going to buy the cpu in next two days..so i have to decide the components by tomorrow.... :-?

At your budget, it is not possible to create a balnced rig with Intel SB quad cores and that's why we've suggested FX-8120.
Intel config will be i5 2400 + Intel DH67CL-B3

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Cilus said:
At your budget, it is not possible to create a balnced rig with Intel SB quad cores and that's why we've suggested FX-8120.
Intel config will be i5 2400 + Intel DH67CL-B3

but if you ignore the budget constraint for now then i5 2400 + DH67CL is a better choice? and if better, then in what sense?

also the flipkart prices for i5 2400 + Intel DH67cl are 11766+5600 = 17366 , just 2k more than the amd rig..so if i5 2400 gives better performance then i think i can go for it..

Buy it locally . You will get it for max 16.5K !!!

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Sainatarajan said:
Buy it locally . You will get it for max 16.5K !!!

yes, that is what i am expecting...

so which one is a better choice according to you guys? and why?

A. i5 2400 + DH67CL
B. Fx 8120 + Asus M5A 880 M

First combo would be best for gaming.
Second combo would be better than the first one in case of using heavily thread apps.

You can't overclock the first config. Although you can reach 3.8GHz with 2400.

The choice will depend on the type of use by you.

In CPU based apps where more threads are necessary the FX will kick 2400's A$$...speaking from personal experience

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i think i will go for the second option because:

1. As gaming mostly depends on gpu, it should not matter much..

2. I can overclock it.

3. It will perform better in apps like Blender, Maya..

but do you people think this rig will do for coming 2-3 years ?

^^yup...

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then fx 8120 it is..

so the rig is

Component Make Price
CPU AMD FX 8120 9911
Motherboard Asus M5A-880M 5200
RAM G.Skill RipjawsX 4GB DDR3 1530
GPU Gigabyte AMD GV-R7850OC 2 GB 16830
HDD WD Caviar Blue 500 GB 4100
Case Cooler Master Elite 310 1950
PSU Seasonic S12II-520 520 W 3972
Total 43493

now...

1. is the motherboard okay? are there better models in that range?
2. What about the gpu? is the gigabyte make best for HD 7850?
3. i have no idea which case to choose... i put this one just for calculating the approx. total cost...
4. do i need any cooling for this rig?

try m5a97...or any 990X series motherboard....

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^^ What about Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 ?

^^Yeah, Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 should be the bare minimum to OC FX 8120 I guess.

YA, SUmon is right. FX-8120 can be very useful in highly multi-threaded apps and apps with newer instruction set supports.

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which one to go for?
ASUS M5A97 or Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3

Asus M5A97 seems a little better, feature wise..no??

Get the Gigabyte Mobo.

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ok..so these components are finalized..

cpu - AMD FX 8120
mobo - Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3

what about the gpu , case and the cooling..?? is gigabyte make okay for hd 7850 ??

the GB looks good on paper...

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ok..so the new rig is..

Component Make Price
CPU AMD FX 8120 9911
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 6500
RAM G.Skill RipjawsX 4GB DDR3 1530
GPU Gigabyte AMD GV-R7850OC 2 GB 16830
HDD WD Caviar Blue 500 GB 4100
Case NZXT Source 210 Elite 2400
PSU Seasonic S12II-520 520 W 3972
Total 45243

changed the motherboard and the case..
Please give some feedback guys so that i can finalize it toady itself..

^^ Everything looks good here. You should go ahead & buy these listed components.

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one other thing....i am going to use the pc in my hostel room..we dont have any air conditioning there...so it can get pretty hot sometimes...so do i need to buy extra fans for this rig?? and if yes, which ones?

please guys...help...going to buy the cpu tomorrow...!!

buy some fans..CM R4 would be good...

AnaRCHist said:
one other thing....i am going to use the pc in my hostel room..we dont have any air conditioning there...so it can get pretty hot sometimes...so do i need to buy extra fans for this rig?? and if yes, which ones?

please guys...help...going to buy the cpu tomorrow...!!

Depending in the number of fans that are coming with the cabinet. I think 2 fan will be there in the cabinet. Add another 2. One in top exhust, another as side/front intake wherever possible.

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can someone suggest a reliable store in guragon or delhi to buy this rig??

^^ SMC? Cost2cost?

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Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 is not available at computer empire....is ASUS M5A97 okay?

M5A97 is a good board, but not as feature rich as 970A-UD3.

Yes. The Gigabyte has 8 + 2 Power Phase while the ASUS Has 4 + 2 Power Phase . So the GB is a good OC'er .

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M5A97 won't be able to OC the FX 8120 as good as GA-970A-UD3.

the_conqueror said:
M5A97 won't be able to OC the FX 8120 as good as GA-970A-UD3.

Prove it with some links to good review!
AFAIK, both boards are same.

The Gigabyte Has More Power Phases than the ASUS one making it a better OC'er .

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posting this from my new rig... :lol:

thanks everyone..you all have been very helpful.. :razz:

Sainatarajan said:
The Gigabyte Has More Power Phases than the ASUS one making it a better OC'er .

more no of phases=/=better overclocker er...
the quality matters

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AnaRCHist said:
posting this from my new rig...

thanks everyone..you all have been very helpful..

mate post pics of u r rig

AnaRCHist said:
posting this from my new rig...

thanks everyone..you all have been very helpful..

pics or it didnt happen...