Upgrading a normal PC for game development @ Rs 15k

Hello guys

I want to upgrade my computer. My main use of the computer is to develop good RPG games, 3d rendering, Modelling, programming by using Unreal Engine, Blender, 3ds max.

My Budget is 10k - 15k .if there's no configuration available then I can go up to 20k maximum.

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The Components I have

∆1 TB HDD (I think the company is seagate) (New one needed)

∆ I have a LG monitor 1366 *768 which only supports VGA

∆ Intel Core i3 3220 (dual core) (upgrade needed I guess)

∆ECS H61H2MV
(upgrade if needed)

∆iBall keyboard

∆Logitech mouse

∆Frontech 400w PSU (I don't really trust this)

∆iBall cabinet (This one's bit old)
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Questions

1. A powerful graphics card
2. Will this processor and motherboard be sufficient for this work ??
3. A good PC cabinet
4. I need a good PSU and a UPS (exclude UPS cost)
5. A fast HDD

I am planning to buy these components Online from Kerala.

Reply sooooooooooon.......................

Asking for new PC help? ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS FIRST

No I meant upgrading

Your budget is way too low. For modeling/rendering multi-threaded workloads, it is preferred to get higher core/thread count. A 2400G would cost you 14k alone.

Can you say the full name of the graphics card

Icosagon said:
Can you say the full name of the graphics card

That's the CPU, Ryzen 5 2400G.

I guess I could adjust with that, my laptop has a Nvidia MX150 with Intel i5

Icosagon said:
I guess I could adjust with that, my laptop has a Nvidia MX150 with Intel i5

You do realize that older components (except kb + mouse, monitor, hdd) won't work with all newer CPUs?

I am a beginner to game development and I am beginner to Blender.
I don't use much graphics in Unreal Engine

Processor may not support and cabinet for sure no support

Icosagon said:
Processor may not support and cabinet for sure no support

It is difficult to assemble even a basic system for 20k. You need to increase it drastically to get good enough components which are suitable for your work.

SaiyanGoku said:
It is difficult to assemble even a basic system for 20k. You need to increase it drastically to get good enough components which are suitable for your work.

Is a Nvidia 1050 enough ??
And a Ryzen 3

Icosagon said:
Is a Nvidia 1050 enough ??
And a Ryzen 3

You'd also need a new mobo (6-8k), at least 8GB DDR4 ram (6-7k), good PSU (4-8k) and a good cabinet (3-7k).

Ryzen 3 is not recommended for your use.

Is the Asus prime A320M-K and AMD Radeon RX550 4 GB good?

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Icosagon said:
Is the Asus prime A320M-K and AMD Radeon RX550 4 GB good?

Asus Prime is the motherboard and AMD is processor

Icosagon said:
Is the Asus prime A320M-K and AMD Radeon RX550 4 GB good?

That's why I asked you to fill the questionnaire so that nobody would need to suggest individual parts in separate posts.

SaiyanGoku said:
That's why I asked you to fill the questionnaire so that nobody would need to suggest individual parts in separate posts.

K I'll fill

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Icosagon said:
I guess I could adjust with that, my laptop has a Nvidia MX150 with Intel i5

What is your i5 model number in laptop? and do you feel laptop performance is enough for you with your workload ?

Answers
1. My main purpose of this computer is game development and 3d rendering/ Modelling

2. My Budget is 10k to 15k, maximum is 20k

3.Theres Turbo Boost in Intel processors and same technologies in AMD

4. Windows 10

5. 200 GB to 1 TB

6. No need, I have a LG monitor which is 1366 * 768 and supports only VGA

7. I want Motherboard, CPU, Graphics Card, PSU,HDD. I can reuse my old HDD and ODD. RAM is not compatible I guess.

9.I guess I could assemble a PC by reading the instructions in the digit's fastrack on assembling a Pc.

10.I live in Kerala, Ernakulam and I plan to buy online

gta5 said:
What is your i5 model number in laptop? and do you feel laptop performance is enough for you with your workload ?

From eBay:Acer Aspire A515-51G Corei5 8thGen 4GB,1TB HDD Windows 10, 2GBGraph 15.6 Laptop | eBay Mobile

i5 (8th generation)

gta5 said:
What is your i5 model number in laptop? and do you feel laptop performance is enough for you with your workload ?

The laptop is very great the only problem is the battery depletes very fast . The laptop seems to work with no lags, but in GTA 4 it feel like fps is dropping
And sometimes the PC freezes when using some 3d models in Unreal Engine 4

Icosagon said:
The laptop seems to work with no lags, but in GTA 4 it feel like fps is dropping

Poorly optimized game on a crap GPU has that effect.

Icosagon said:
And sometimes the PC freezes when using some 3d models in Unreal Engine 4

Are you doing heavy modeling?

Icosagon said:
The laptop is very great the only problem is the battery depletes very fast.

Always use the laptop on AC power unless you can't find an outlet.

SaiyanGoku said:
Poorly optimized game on a crap GPU has that effect.

Are you doing heavy modeling?

Always use the laptop on AC power unless you can't find an outlet.

I'm using the tutorial assets with high graphics and lags only when using a specific model in it.

Icosagon said:
I'm using the tutorial assets with high graphics and lags only when using a specific model in it.

@whitestar_999 (or anyone who uses UE4), any suggestions here? I'm not into 3d modeling/rendering.

I'm asking an off topic question.
The reason for upgrading my PC was because my laptop accidentally fell off the table and the display broke. Is there any Acer service centre in india that replace the display ????. I seems as if there is no repair center in here.

Icosagon said:
I'm asking an off topic question.
The reason for upgrading my PC was because my laptop accidentally fell off the table and the display broke. Is there any Acer service centre in india that replace the display ????. I seems as if there is no repair center in here.

Buddy, frankly sell that laptop off after repairs and get a proper desktop assembled for work. 20k for entire config won't even get you anywhere close to your laptop's performance.

For the rendering purpose you really need a power cpu which is at present is difficult in your limited budget. your best bet is to find a used intel core i7 3rd gen from ebay,olx,aliexpress etc and use it with your current configuration. you dont have to change your motherboard and ram then. You must get a good PSU preferable atleast corsair cx450. not sure about the graphics part.

Okay are there any processors having good integrated graphics.
My Intel i3's HD Graphics 2500 can at least reach 512mb -1000mb graphics memory.

Icosagon said:
Okay are there any processors having good integrated graphics.
My Intel i3's HD Graphics 2500 can at least reach 512mb -1000mb graphics memory.

Integrated graphics are good for display output only. For most intensive tasks, it is foolish to depend on them.

SaiyanGoku said:
Buddy, frankly sell that laptop off after repairs and get a proper desktop assembled for work. 20k for entire config won't even get you anywhere close to your laptop's performance.

The lag in GTA 4 only worked in some places, I can take the benchmark of the both systems using GTA 4.

Icosagon said:
The lag in GTA 4 only worked in some places, I can take the benchmark of the both systems using GTA 4.

Focus on the issue at hand now. Benchmarking will waste your time. Get the screen repaired and sell the laptop off.

15k is very low budget for building a PC for 3D modeling and game development.

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I don't use gfx for games,I use it for madvr though it loads the gfx card similarly to a game.I wouldn't recommend anything below a quad core & a 1050Ti for serious 3d rendering.Also a laptop is a bad idea for long duration usage for such tasks unless you sit in an AC room 24*7.

Icosagon said:
Answers
1. My main purpose of this computer is game development and 3d rendering/ Modelling

2. My Budget is 10k to 15k, maximum is 20k

3.Theres Turbo Boost in Intel processors and same technologies in AMD

4. Windows 10

5. 200 GB to 1 TB

6. No need, I have a LG monitor which is 1366 * 768 and supports only VGA

7. I want Motherboard, CPU, Graphics Card, PSU,HDD. I can reuse my old HDD and ODD. RAM is not compatible I guess.

9.I guess I could assemble a PC by reading the instructions in the digit's fastrack on assembling a Pc.

10.I live in Kerala, Ernakulam and I plan to buy online

Budget -31K

AMD Ryzen 3 2200G -8500,
Asus Prime B320M Plus -5000,
Corsair Value Series 8GB 3000Mhz -6500,
Corsair CX 450 -3500,
Antec GX200 -3000,
WD Caviar Blue 1TB -3500,
Logitech MK200 -1000.
TOTAL -31,000.

^ Not good enough for OP. Don't go on recommending anything just because it suits OP's budget. He might not get the expected performance.

Need to increase budget, 3ds max is a heavy workload application. Unreal not as much.

Hello guys
These are the recommended Pc specifications show on Unreal Engine's website

Desktop PC or Mac
Windows 7 64-bit or Mac OS X 10.9.2 or later
Quad-core Intel or AMD processor, 2.5 GHz or faster
NVIDIA GeForce 470 GTX or AMD Radeon 6870 HD series card or higher
8 GB RAM

I think I can't use 3ds max because it's not free. I will use another alternatives.
No need of much graphics. I only need that Unreal Engine to work.

^ There is a difference between the program running smoothly and running like a slideshow.

It depends on your usage, if the games you will be building are small indie titles 2D or otherwise, then a low-mid end gpu is perfectly fine. More than enough.

Nerevarine said:
It depends on your usage, if the games you will be building are small indie titles 2D or otherwise, then a low-mid end gpu is perfectly fine. More than enough.

I'm not using much graphics, I'm a beginner and learning to use unreal engine 4

Should I use a GTX 1050 ??

yes, more than enough for your usage..
If planning on mobile games, even lower is enough

Nerevarine said:
yes, more than enough for your usage..
If planning on mobile games, even lower is enough

Yes I was planning on making mobile games, then is a gtx 1050 enough ??

absolutely fine.

Icosagon said:
Yes I was planning on making mobile games, then is a gtx 1050 enough ??

Yes, 1050 is enough for your requirement

Hello ! is there any cheap graphics cards, gtx 1050 is about 15k

Icosagon said:
Hello ! is there any cheap graphics cards, gtx 1050 is about 15k

They aren't that powerful unless you are getting a used GTX 960 or 970 but then you'll loose efficiency.

SaiyanGoku said:
They aren't that powerful unless you are getting a used GTX 960 or 970 but then you'll loose efficiency.

Will the Zotac Nvidia GT 730 2GB DDR5 PCI-e Graphics Card powerful enough ?

Icosagon said:
Will the Zotac Nvidia GT 730 2GB DDR5 PCI-e Graphics Card powerful enough ?

Nope, its even worse than a 1030

Then is a 1030 good ??. From amazon.in *www.amazon.in/Zotac-Graphic-Firestorm-Extended-Warranty/dp/B071NPW8CK

Many websites are showing that Intel i3 3220 is good

Icosagon said:
Then is a 1030 good ??. From amazon.in *www.amazon.in/Zotac-Graphic-Firestorm-Extended-Warranty/dp/B071NPW8CK

No and that is way overpriced for a 1030.

SaiyanGoku said:
No and that is way overpriced for a 1030.

I think it's because of extended warranty. Any reliable website in India with a reasonable price ??

Mdcomputers, primeabgb try

Icosagon said:
I think it's because of extended warranty.

Zotac gives that by default. Do not waste money on it unless you've seen other people use it for same purpose like yours.

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Icosagon said:
Then is a 1030 good ??. From amazon.in *www.amazon.in/Zotac-Graphic-Firestorm-Extended-Warranty/dp/B071NPW8CK

Icosagon said:

Many websites are showing that Intel i3 3220 is good

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GT 1030 is roughly equal to MX 150 of your laptop .. so if you feel it stutters on your laptop with unreal engine 4 then avoid it..

how much ram does your current system has ? as i have seen some posts mentioning ram bottleneck with UE4 , find out what is limiting you .. attach your laptop to monitor /tv and look at CPU, Memory, GPU and Disk usages and see which one is at 90-100 % when it starts to stutter ..

gta5 said:
GT 1030 is roughly equal to MX 150 of your laptop .. so if you feel it stutters on your laptop with unreal engine 4 then avoid it..

how much ram does your current system has ? as i have seen some posts mentioning ram bottleneck with UE4 , find out what is limiting you .. attach your laptop to monitor /tv and look at CPU, Memory, GPU and Disk usages and see which one is at 90-100 % when it starts to stutter ..

My Pc's Specs
Intel Core i3 3220 @ 3.30GHz
ECS H61H2-MV
4.00GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz
931GB Seagate ST1000DM003-1CH162 ATA Device
Windows 10 Enterprise 64-bit
Intel HD 2500

Laptop"s Specs
Dedicated Graphic Memory Type- DDR5
Dedicated Graphic Memory Capacity-2 GB
Processor Brand- Intel
Processor Name- Core i5
Processor Generation-8th Gen
RAM- 4 GB
RAM Type- DDR4
HDD Capacity- 1 TB
Processor Variant- 8250U
Clock Speed- 1.6 GHz with Turbo Boost Upto 3.4 GHz
Cache- 6 MB
RPM -5400
Graphic Processor- Nvidia MX150 2 GB

The laptop is better than the PC you are building

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Icosagon said:
My Pc's Specs

Processor Name- Core i5
Processor Generation-8th Gen
RAM- 4 GB
RAM Type- DDR4
HDD Capacity- 1 TB
Processor Variant- 8250U

you are probably being limited by Ram with only 4gb even in your laptop , .. but still look at GPU and CPU usage as well and see if it reaches 90-100 % ..
can you borrow more RAM for laptop from friend/repair shop just for testing purposes ? and test after that , to see if it fixes it and whether or not you need more GPU power also

Nerevarine said:
The laptop is better than the PC you are building

I said the same to him in post #27

SaiyanGoku said:
Buddy, frankly sell that laptop off after repairs and get a proper desktop assembled for work. 20k for entire config won't even get you anywhere close to your laptop's performance.