Upgrading PC - urgent help needed

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Hi friends

I have a desktop pc with AMD 635 processor, Gigabyte am3+ mobo, 4 gb corsair 1600 mhz ram, 430x corsair smps, 1tb hdd, dell 21 inch monitor.

Recently my mobo started giving problems and when I checked with repairs, they say it's repair costs ₹1200. Please suggest if I should buy another mobo, processor and ram or just get it repaired as I use pc for doing normal work like seeing movies and ms office and my son does his studies on it.

If new parts like mobo, processor n ram, then please give suggestions for it with on board graphics and slot for future expansion. I will keep other parts same.

Budget - normal say 10k - 12k for these 3 items

Need to decide by tomorrow as my son exams starts from 7th Jan.

rohitshakti_sehgal said:
If new parts like mobo, processor n ram, then please give suggestions for it with on board graphics and slot for future expansion. I will keep other parts same.

Budget - normal say 10k - 12k for these 3 items

Dude, budget is not enough for a good config. If you can get the old mobo repaired and it runs for even 3-6 months, do it. Meanwhile, consider saving ~30-35k for a new config.

You can also search for same motherboard in used market.

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SaiyanGoku said:
Dude, budget is not enough for a good config. If you can get the old mobo repaired and it runs for even 3-6 months, do it. Meanwhile, consider saving ~30-35k for a new config.

You can also search for same motherboard in used market.

Thanks for the reply. Do you mean 35k for basic computer and that too for only for processor, mobo CD drive and ram?

Isn't it too high.

Can you please also suggest a new mobo for this processor...

rohitshakti_sehgal said:
Thanks for the reply. Do you mean 35k for basic computer and that too for only for processor, mobo CD drive and ram?

Isn't it too high.

Processor ~8k
Mobo ~6k
8GB Ram ~3k
256GB SSD ~3k
New 500 or 550W PSU ~4k
New cabinet with proper airflow ~2k

Don't waste money on cd/dvd drive.

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SaiyanGoku said:
Processor ~8k
Mobo ~6k
8GB Ram ~3k
256GB SSD ~3k
New 500 or 550W PSU ~4k
New cabinet with proper airflow ~2k

Don't waste money on cd/dvd drive.

I intend to use my old 1gb hdd, 430x corsair smps and bijli cabinet with 2 extra fans already installed.

I can also settle for lower grade processor n mobo....

Please give model nos...

Anything less than i3 10100 doesn't feel value to me. But at this budget, can't think about that.

Cheapest you can go for is Pentium.

G5400 was selling for 4.5k, now it's mostly out of stock. See if you can find one. Compatible motherboard H310 chipset board would cost sub 5k and 2.5k for 8GB RAM

If you can't find G5400 around that price, next stop is G6400 for about 6k, compatible motherboad - H410 chipset board would cost about 5.5k and 2.5k for 8GB RAM.

For 2k more you can get Ryzen APU, and for another 2k you got i3. I see you don't have budget, this is just for your information.

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nac said:
Anything less than i3 10100 doesn't feel value to me. But at this budget, can't think about that.

Cheapest you can go for is Pentium.

G5400 was selling for 4.5k, now it's mostly out of stock. See if you can find one. Compatible motherboard H310 chipset board would cost sub 5k and 2.5k for 8GB RAM

If you can't find G5400 around that price, next stop is G6400 for about 6k, compatible motherboad - H410 chipset board would cost about 5.5k and 2.5k for 8GB RAM.

For 2k more you can get Ryzen APU, and for another 2k you got i3. I see you don't have budget, this is just for your information.

Sir

If I increase my budget to 16k, what would be the best options available...

As Saiyan suggested, see if you can get compatible board for your existing system. That's the cheapest option.

G6400 + H410M E + 8GB DDR4 2666mhz would cost about 14k
2200G/3200G + A320M S2H + 8GB DDR4 3000mhz would cost about 15k/16k - about 30/35% better than G6400
i3 10100 + H410M E + 8GB DDR4 2666mhz would cost about 18k - about 50% better than 2200G

You decide what's best. For your use case, any one of these build will do.

nac said:
As Saiyan suggested, see if you can get compatible board for your existing system. That's the cheapest option.

G6400 + H410M E + 8GB DDR4 2666mhz would cost about 14k
2200G/3200G + A320M S2H + 8GB DDR4 3000mhz would cost about 15k/16k - about 30/35% better than G6400
i3 10100 + H410M E + 8GB DDR4 2666mhz would cost about 18k - about 50% better than 2200G

You decide what's best. For your use case, any one of these build will do.

This post sums up your options pretty well. If you are tight on budget, get old PC repaired for now.

My recommendation will be this as you will likely use it for the next 6-8 years:

CPU - Intel i3 10100 - 10k

Mobo - MSI H410M Pro-VH - 5.6k (it has M.2 SSD slot)

RAM - 1x8GB DDR4 2666+MHz - 2.3k*

SSD - Kingston A400 120GB 2.5″ - 1.8k (For OS as SSD makes a big difference in responsiveness over HDD)

Total - 19.7k

*Get 2666MHz RAM but sometimes higher freq RAM is cheaper. Say a 3000MHz RAM will underclock & run at 2666.

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nac said:
As Saiyan suggested, see if you can get compatible board for your existing system. That's the cheapest option.

G6400 + H410M E + 8GB DDR4 2666mhz would cost about 14k
2200G/3200G + A320M S2H + 8GB DDR4 3000mhz would cost about 15k/16k - about 30/35% better than G6400
i3 10100 + H410M E + 8GB DDR4 2666mhz would cost about 18k - about 50% better than 2200G

You decide what's best. For your use case, any one of these build will do.

Currently intel 10100 is costing around 10800/- and 3200g is costing 8800/-

Have prices increased for intel as I found some persons bought 10100 around 9.9k in December itself.

and which is best place to buy, Online or offline, I live in Delhi.

Any old processor or mobo available?

If you have really low budget then you can get a 3ghz core 2 duo cpu, with g41 motherboard from zebronics /frontech etc and pair it with 4gb ddr3 ram. It will cost around 5-6k max for all of these components.

Although its not powerful or future proof, it will be enough for basic office work and school projects.

While upgrading you must upgrade these 3 together.
MOBO, PROCY and RAM.

Your old PSU may support these but recommended to replace that too.

Anyway, if possible build around i3 (or i5) processor.
Please don't use old processor or mobo as using old HW makes no sense.
They are either already out of support or would be soon. Also, finding compatible HW would be tough, and even found would be costly.
i3, i5 are at least 10yr old now.

Also, SSD would be costly i.e. price/GB would be higher than SATA drives.
If you are tight on budget, have a MOBO with SSD option but go for SATA as of now.

As per Amazon:-
i3 9th gen : 7156/-
MOBO MSi or ASUS: 4900/- each
RAM 8GB DD4 : 3680/-

Total 15736/-

b/w both MOBO are micro ATX, your existing case I guess is macro.
Keep this in mind before buying new mobo in case you don't plan to upgrade cabinet.

rhitwick said:
While upgrading you must upgrade these 3 together.
MOBO, PROCY and RAM.

Your old PSU may support these but recommended to replace that too.

Anyway, if possible build around i3 (or i5) processor.
Please don't use old processor or mobo as using old HW makes no sense.
They are either already out of support or would be soon. Also, finding compatible HW would be tough, and even found would be costly.
i3, i5 are at least 10yr old now.

Also, SSD would be costly i.e. price/GB would be higher than SATA drives.
If you are tight on budget, have a MOBO with SSD option but go for SATA as of now.

As per Amazon:-
i3 9th gen : 7156/-
MOBO MSi or ASUS: 4900/- each
RAM 8GB DD4 : 3680/-

Total 15736/-

b/w both MOBO are micro ATX, your existing case I guess is macro.
Keep this in mind before buying new mobo in case you don't plan to upgrade cabinet.

DO NOT BUY i3 9100F
It doesn't have an iGPU, so won't run without a dedicated GPU. Please keep this in mind in future.

Also, any RAM higher than 2666MHz is a waste of money for Intel rigs unless you get it for really cheap or have Zxxx mobo. I have seen 2666MHz RAMs for as low as 2.3k, right now 2.6k on amazon.

rohitshakti_sehgal said:
Currently intel 10100 is costing around 10800/- and 3200g is costing 8800/-

Have prices increased for intel as I found some persons bought 10100 around 9.9k in December itself.

and which is best place to buy, Online or offline, I live in Delhi.

Any old processor or mobo available?

Yes, seems like it. I have seen i3 10100 under 10k earlier. Now seeing it for 10.2k here:
Intel Core i3-10100 3.6 GHz Upto 4.3 GHz LGA 1200 Socket 4 Cores 8 Threads 6 MB Smart Cache Desktop Processor - Intel : Flipkart.com

i dont think he needs i3/ryzen or a similar cpu as his only motivation is to use it for office work and his kid's studies-for that reason,it would be a bit of an overkill.

And his budget is also quite low.

quicky008 said:
i dont think he needs i3/ryzen or a similar cpu as his only motivation is to use it for office work and his kid's studies-for that reason,it would be a bit of an overkill.

And his budget is also quite low.

True but in the long term might be worth it to spend that extra 5k over a 2c/4t Pentium G5400. nac did summarize the options well earlier.

quicky008 said:
i dont think he needs i3/ryzen or a similar cpu as his only motivation is to use it for office work and his kid's studies-for that reason,it would be a bit of an overkill.

And his budget is also quite low.

I won't even recommend 2C/4T processors unless that's a placeholder and the buyer would be waiting ~1-2 months for next gen CPUs.

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SaiyanGoku said:
I won't even recommend 2C/4T processors unless that's a placeholder and the buyer would be waiting ~1-2 months for next gen CPUs.

Do you mean to say that I should wait for next 1-2 months and then buy these processors when they become cheaper. If so, please suggest the final components as per you....

rohitshakti_sehgal said:
Do you mean to say that I should wait for next 1-2 months and then buy these processors when they become cheaper. If so, please suggest the final components as per you....

No, I mean don't buy any low end CPU which has less than 4 cores/4 threads for >1 month use.

Yeah, looks like prices have gone up lately. 10100 price gone up by few hundreds.
Check with local shops, you're likely to get better prices in local shops as you're in Delhi.

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nac said:
As Saiyan suggested, see if you can get compatible board for your existing system. That's the cheapest option.

G6400 + H410M E + 8GB DDR4 2666mhz would cost about 14k
2200G/3200G + A320M S2H + 8GB DDR4 3000mhz would cost about 15k/16k - about 30/35% better than G6400
i3 10100 + H410M E + 8GB DDR4 2666mhz would cost about 18k - about 50% better than 2200G

You decide what's best. For your use case, any one of these build will do.

I have got my old mobo repaired and will sell it soon and this looks good to me.

3200G + A320M S2H + 8GB DDR4 3000mhz

Please tell company good for mobo anf drr 4 ram. I think corsair still gives lifetime warranty on rams....?

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SaiyanGoku said:
No, I mean don't buy any low end CPU which has less than 4 cores/4 threads for >1 month use.

How much difference will it be from my old pc to
3200G + A320M S2H + 8GB DDR4 3000mhz...?

Is this overclocable?

rohitshakti_sehgal said:
How much difference will it be from my old pc to
3200G + A320M S2H + 8GB DDR4 3000mhz...?

Is this overclocable?

I think AMD supports OC in B series of mobo, not A. But the OC gains aren't worth it to even consider.

I'd consider Asus, MSI, Gigabyte & AsRock as good mobo manufacturers. For RAM, Crucial, G Skill, Adata/XPG & HyperX, maybe even Teamgroup, get the cheapest one IMO among them, for mobo look for its features like RAM slots, M2 slot, USB ports, etc.

rohitshakti_sehgal said:
How much difference will it be from my old pc to
3200G + A320M S2H + 8GB DDR4 3000mhz...?

Is this overclocable?

The difference will be pretty significant as 3200g is a lot faster as compared to your old athlon 635.

However how much difference will be actually noticeable will depend on the types of applications you will be using your pc for-you will not notice much improvement if you are only going to use your pc for basic office apps or school projects.

quicky008 said:
The difference will be pretty significant as 3200g is a lot faster as compared to your old athlon 635.

However how much difference will be actually noticeable will depend on the types of applications you will be using your pc for-you will not notice much improvement if you are only going to use your pc for basic office apps or school projects.

+1

Just to add to that, OS on HDD will bottleneck the new system in terms of responsiveness, SSD is much better, even cheap ones like Kingston A400 I suggested earlier @rohitshakti_sehgal

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quicky008 said:
The difference will be pretty significant as 3200g is a lot faster as compared to your old athlon 635.

However how much difference will be actually noticeable will depend on the types of applications you will be using your pc for-you will not notice much improvement if you are only going to use your pc for basic office apps or school projects.

I have got my old mobo repaired and will sell it with processor and ram.

Now my new rig will have AMD 3200G + 8GB Corsair 3200 mhz and Gig A320 mobo (Cost: Rs.16000/- from Nehru Place) with any of the suggested cabinets. My son selected these cabinets using youtube. Rest will be taken from my old PC which had 2TB hdd.

Final thing to find out is about the cabinet out of the following:

ICE 200TG (Rs.2500/-)

ICE 511 mt (Rs.3500/-)

ICE 211tg (Rs.2800/-)

Ant eSports ICE 300 tg (Rs.3000/-)

or last one

Chiptronex GX3000 (Rs.3300/-)

rohitshakti_sehgal said:
I have got my old mobo repaired and will sell it with processor and ram.

Now my new rig will have AMD 3200G + 8GB Corsair 3200 mhz and Gig A320 mobo (Cost: Rs.16000/- from Nehru Place) with any of the suggested cabinets. My son selected these cabinets using youtube. Rest will be taken from my old PC which had 2TB hdd.

Final thing to find out is about the cabinet out of the following:

ICE 200TG (Rs.2500/-)

ICE 511 mt (Rs.3500/-)

ICE 211tg (Rs.2800/-)

Ant eSports ICE 300 tg (Rs.3000/-)

or last one

Chiptronex GX3000 (Rs.3300/-)

Get ICE-511MT, if you can, best among the ones you listed & good for a proper gaming rig as well (because of the meshed front with 3 intakes + 1 exhaust). Otherwise, ICE-211TG is enough. Avoid rest IMO.