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User does not believe Linux can run without Windows

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soumya
soumya Original post #1
Jan 21, 2008 at 10:04 PM
In a forum post on zdnet, a user explains why Linux cannot run on a computer without Windows. Very funny to read.

*digg.com/linux_unix/User_does_not_believe_Linux_can_run_without_Windows

Why Linux will not displace Windows

You are kidding arent you ?
Are you saying that this linux can run on a computer without windows underneath it, at all ? As in, without a boot disk, without any drivers, and without any services ?

That sounds preposterous to me.

If it were true (and I doubt it), then companies would be selling computers without a windows. This clearly is not happening, so there must be some error in your calculations. I hope you realise that windows is more than just Office ? Its a whole system that runs the computer from start to finish, and that is a very difficult thing to acheive. A lot of people dont realise this.

Microsoft just spent $9 billion and many years to create Vista, so it does not sound reasonable that some new alternative could just snap into existence overnight like that. It would take billions of dollars and a massive effort to achieve. IBM tried, and spent a huge amount of money developing OS/2 but could never keep up with Windows. Apple tried to create their own system for years, but finally gave up recently and moved to Intel and Microsoft.

Its just not possible that a freeware like the Linux could be extended to the point where it runs the entire computer fron start to finish, without using some of the more critical parts of windows. Not possible.

I think you need to re-examine your assumptions.
din
din #2
Jan 21, 2008 at 11:16 PM
LOL :D

But wait for more responses, it will not sound funny for many here either ;)
utsav
utsav #3
Jan 21, 2008 at 11:20 PM
its very true
RCuber
RCuber #4
Jan 21, 2008 at 11:30 PM
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~Phenom~
Jan 21, 2008 at 11:37 PM
haha :D
praka123
Jan 22, 2008 at 12:05 AM
:D
idiot said:
Its just not possible that a freeware like the Linux blah blah blah...blah
GNU/Linux is Free Software,NOT Freeware!:x


Well,No offense!but see! the knowledge of windows users :lol: !

and..I have seen such id!ots in few forums!worst,those win users who switched to Linux are first searching for control panel,googling for AV,trying to install setup.exe's of spybot,ad-aware,seeking everything in windows,thinking Linux is another alternate Windows :D pathetic!

Wi!dows users are simply restricting themselves inside windows.they dont understand what other superior OS are having!.those who switched to Open Source and Linux like me and many come back and say: "we got a better and superior option than this paid cr@p" -but sadly,our windows boy cannot open the eyes and see the reality!Hopefully this will be changing with distros like Ubuntu,PclinuxOS etc :)

edit:JerryLeeCooper Site :lol: a collection of his ideas(similar to someone here ;) )

*www.jerryleecooper.com/
a_k_s_h_a_y
Jan 22, 2008 at 12:31 AM
i dugg it.. to add one more

hmm wait a sec.. i doubt if there is any jerry lee cooper !!

super cool .. he created a site .. fake name.. put ads from original adsense account .. make foolish points ... get traffic to his site.. make mony. genius
praka123
Jan 22, 2008 at 12:35 AM
^that site is his unofficial fan's site ;) JFYI! :D
Zeeshan Quireshi
Jan 22, 2008 at 12:36 AM
ROFL :lol:

@praka , mate no need to be so senti in every post of yours . We know that you like GNU/Linux but don't let it threaten your sanity .
vish786
vish786 #10
Jan 22, 2008 at 12:38 AM
i dugg it.. to add one more

hmm wait a sec.. i doubt if there is any jerry lee cooper !!

super cool .. he created a site .. fake name.. put ads from original adsense account .. make foolish points ... get traffic to his site.. make mony. genius

this is wat happens usually... just all circus to increase traffic loads :)
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Hitboxx #11
Jan 22, 2008 at 12:44 AM
w00t? O_O., y0u d0n't n33d W1nd0w$?! BuT, h0w w1ll m3 c0mput3r run th3n? i lik3 tis fr33war3 l1nux but i als0 n33d w1nd0w$ und3rn34th t0 mak3 it w0rk, d0n't i?! r0flma0 :D
vish786
vish786 #12
Jan 22, 2008 at 12:47 AM
w00t? O_O., y0u d0n't n33d W1nd0w$?! BuT, h0w w1ll m3 c0mput3r run th3n? i lik3 tis fr33war3 l1nux but i als0 n33d w1nd0w$ und3rn34th t0 mak3 it w0rk, d0n't i?! r0flma0 :D

praka would kill u for this :D
T
Jan 22, 2008 at 4:26 AM
LMAO... This is the funniest thing I've read in months...
S
shobankr #14
Jan 22, 2008 at 9:56 AM
it reminds me of cast away
debsuvra
debsuvra #15
Jan 22, 2008 at 9:59 AM
Well some damn causes were given to support Windows, I personally do not believe that a computer cannot run without Windows. The Pro Applications may not run but the whole computer would be useless without linux.... I do not believe in that $hit. :D
DigitalDude
Jan 22, 2008 at 10:02 AM
GNU/Linux is Free Software,NOT Freeware!:x

we all know it... he is just quoting the noob user.. there is no need to go gah gah over this as if you r the only saviour of linux.

the user in question is just acting or trolling :\

Well,No offense!but see! the knowledge of windows users :lol: !

and..I have seen such id!ots in few forums!worst,those win users who switched to Linux are first searching for control panel,googling for AV,trying to install setup.exe's of spybot,ad-aware,seeking everything in windows,thinking Linux is another alternate Windows :D pathetic!

Wi!dows users are simply restricting themselves inside windows.they dont understand what other superior OS are having!.those who switched to Open Source and Linux like me and many come back and say: "we got a better and superior option than this paid cr@p" -but sadly,our windows boy cannot open the eyes and see the reality!Hopefully this will be changing with distros like Ubuntu,PclinuxOS etc :)

I like linux but not people like praka and his attitude.. see his post how amateurish

stop generalising you fool, just because you use linux u dont become uber geek. stop acting like something is superior. people have right to choose respect their choice. if you think something might be better just suggest dont call names.

an OS is just that a fking OS. it doesnt matter what OS you use if all you du is bash some other OS in forums. its just a tool. what you do using the tool matters a lot than what tool you are using. I think most of the users dont have time to RTFM, they just want to get the work done. so dont generalise and call them fools, when you are a perfect example of one.

I have organised a city wide event (when i was in college) called Linuxplore, went to lot of computer shops and IT training centres in chennai talked with people there gave them lot of posters designed by us to display and also asked their students to come to the event. the sessions in the event were conducted by our seniors about what free software is, installing, using linux etcetra.. we gave everyone, who attended the event, a CD with linux distro to try. the event was mainly attended by college students and even a few working people.. and you should have been there in the q and a session to know what an average user thinks and wants from a PC.
all this back in 2002... I wish there was ubuntu at that time.

so if you want other people to try what you think is good, tell them politely. If you are going to call them fools and boast over your mental capabilities no one would care to give you a sh!t.
i_am_crack
Jan 22, 2008 at 10:11 AM
Keep it rolling guys...I am loving it..

eBro
ray|raven
ray|raven #18
Jan 22, 2008 at 10:14 AM
Lolz,
But this isnt new, not to me anyways,
I've heard these kinda lines before.

Regards,
ray
Who
Who #19
Jan 22, 2008 at 11:13 AM
stop generalising you fool, just because you use linux u dont become uber geek. stop acting like something is superior. people have right to choose respect their choice. if you think something might be better just suggest dont call names.

an OS is just that a fking OS. it doesnt matter what OS you use if all you du is bash some other OS in forums. its just a tool. what you do using the tool matters a lot than what tool you are using. I think most of the users dont have time to RTFM, they just want to get the work done. so dont generalise and call them fools, when you are a perfect example of one.

I have organised a city wide event (when i was in college) called Linuxplore, went to lot of computer shops and IT training centres in chennai talked with people there gave them lot of posters designed by us to display and also asked their students to come to the event. the sessions in the event were conducted by our seniors about what free software is, installing, using linux etcetra.. we gave everyone, who attended the event, a CD with linux distro to try. the event was mainly attended by college students and even a few working people.. and you should have been there in the q and a session to know what an average user thinks and wants from a PC.
all this back in 2002... I wish there was ubuntu at that time.

so if you want other people to try what you think is good, tell them politely. If you are going to call them fools and boast over your mental capabilities no one would care to give you a sh!t.

I agree with you , one should use the OS that one likes. I mean people should use OS that they think is good , i mean some people here like NOD32 as Anti-virus & some like Avast ! as their antivirus software that's the same with OS , Every OS out there has its own stregths & weaknesses, There is no OS out there that could be called as best.

Bashing people who uses diffrent OS than you use is downright stupid , This is a free forum , people here have their own free opinion , this is no jail so deal with it.
kumarmohit
Jan 22, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Alright He has some skills at comedy.
Zeeshan Quireshi
Jan 22, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Praka , YOU NEED HELP.

I think praka's an Extreme cas of OCD(Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) .
RCuber
RCuber #22
Jan 22, 2008 at 3:40 PM
cool cat 8)

Edit: What does the cat has to do with the topic?
Gigacore
Gigacore #23
Jan 22, 2008 at 4:03 PM
rofl... cats likes windows :D
phreak0ut
phreak0ut #24
Jan 22, 2008 at 6:21 PM
Hey Praka, cool down man. Agreed that you are general linux user, but please try to refrain yourself from posting about DRM and evangelising about linux ALL the time. We really appreciate your help, but sometimes you get out of hand. Getting angry so much is not good for your health either :D
praka123
praka123 #25
Jan 22, 2008 at 7:18 PM
^I think I overreacted!but Still, using Linux Will not make you a Uber Geek Just for @digitaldude's info :rolleyes:
@idigitaldeuode:You are no one to advice me.mind your business!:rolleyes:

I remain a average Linux user for the past 6 years+.when someone says that move to GNU/Linux and FOSS again and again,he must be sure that the GNU/Linux OS is indeed Superior.

Yes.It is purely by choice only for win users.still Linux doesnot have those "WoW" ads running all over net and ur TV.Linux and FOSS awareness grow by posting thorugh forums like these!

I think you should know that an indirect ad for Community which I does!giving cd/dvd and go,try Linux will not help!I am,from 1998 knows what Linux is,and from my first encounter left Linux usage and again started using Linux after reading about Linux in forums!

and,do u think u r a "senior" guy who want to educate me? :evil:
you are really a fool to come and start educating me from first! :x go ,learn first that idiotic win/PC novices wont give Linux a try until they read what Linux is!
I too got CD's and Floppies of some distro during my Engg days back in 97-2001 :rolleyes: I dont give a damn about the whole thing!

Until you read,understands the superiority of UNIX-like Platforms you wont be caring for FOSS is what and what Linux is!

Still most windows users deserve generalization
they decay themselves inside windows with upgrading/downgrading to vista and xp,searching warez,format-reinstall,wont understand that there are better OS's.

@zeeshan:I think you too have the same disorder due to win+.net addiction+ may be a bi-polar disorder :)

@windowsusers: *getgnulinux.org
drgrudge
drgrudge #26
Jan 22, 2008 at 7:30 PM
DigitalDude -
It's none of your business to tell other members what he wants to do unless he's not crossing the rules of this place. If you feel irritated, don't respond or leave this place.

1 week of Misery. See to it you don't indulge in such things in the future.


praka123 -
2 days for misery for you. Be calm. By the way, I can read deleted posts too...
infra_red_dude
Jan 22, 2008 at 9:49 PM
Lolz.. awesome post! :) Keep 'em coming........
vish786
vish786 #28
Jan 22, 2008 at 11:23 PM
DigitalDude -
It's none of your business to tell other members what he wants to do unless he's not crossing the rules of this place. If you feel irritated, don't respond or leave this place.

1 week of Misery. See to it you don't indulge in such things in the future.


praka123 -
2 days for misery for you. Be calm. By the way, I can read deleted posts too...


godly power rains only on those special choosen ones :p
contactpraven2001
Jan 22, 2008 at 11:56 PM
well keep going i m enjoying it .............. but i m not agree with the though of the post..........
Cyrus_the_virus
Jan 23, 2008 at 1:35 AM
More from the biggest Idiot (or acting so for personal gains through ads).

It wont happen I dont see how this will happen at all.

Vista is far more powerful than windows XP, and runs twice as fast. It is also much harder to pirate, and this point more than anything else has the Linux crowd in a panic.

It wont be long until Windows XP is no longer supported, and when that happens, what is Linux going to do ?

Linux will have to find a way to work under Vista from here on, since it wont be able to rely on XP being readily available anymore.

Linux may seem like a good alternative to Office, but all that is happening in linux is that the windows interface is cleverly hidden away. It still needs the drivers and software services in order to run, and in most cases - that happens WITHOUT a valid windows licence.

This is just plain piracy.

Vista will finally put an end to this blatant abuse of intellectual property, and linux should decline, taking the pirates with it.

Anyone that supports the continuation of Windows XP in place of Vista surely has a hidden agenda .. and you will surely be caught out.

sigh.. either he's just plain stupid like what 80% of windows users are(no offence unless you think you are one in the 80% :D ) or like we know, he's just acting dumb to drive some traffic. Can't believe people follow up with such stupids.:rolleyes:
Rahim
Rahim #31
Jan 23, 2008 at 7:55 AM
Hey guys, I have set my home folder permission to:
1:Owner: Me can create and execute
2:My group can create and execute
3:Others None.
Now when i boot with the Ubuntu Live CD and used "gksu nautilus" from there i can access the contents of my Home folder. WHY?
Isnt it suppose to give me Permission Denied Error as i had set it to "Others - None". How is my folder's content safe then when it is easily accessible.
Am I am missing something, guys?

PS: Dont laugh I have no Porn to hide :D
I am just curious yaar.
H
Hitboxx #32
Jan 23, 2008 at 10:11 AM
gksu = root access.

Have you tried without it? Root is above all whatever permissions you give, he/she can access anything, be it live cd or otherwise.
RCuber
RCuber #33
Jan 23, 2008 at 10:35 AM
^^ but do you have to give a root password while running live CD?
Rahim
Rahim #34
Jan 23, 2008 at 8:01 PM
^ No, it doesnt need a password..
But what kind of protection is that, no need of password and anyone with a Live CD can boot and access your files and folders :(
Can someone give some suggestion or it cant be done?
RCuber
RCuber #35
Jan 23, 2008 at 8:14 PM
^^^ Zikes.. wait.. Live CD + mount all partitions + sudo rm -rf / *gigasmilies.googlepages.com/13a.gif
Rahim
Rahim #36
Jan 23, 2008 at 8:55 PM
Yah thats crazy. I am sure we are missing something here or not doing it properly. Any suggestion guys.

EDIT: Sorry guys i was to post my query Here, but mistakenly posted it in this thread as i had both tabs open . Sorry:?
QwertyManiac
Jan 23, 2008 at 9:10 PM
Yah thats crazy. I am sure we are missing something here or not doing it properly. Any suggestion guys.

EDIT: Sorry guys i was to post my query Here, but mistakenly posted it in this thread as i had both tabs open . Sorry:?

Encrypt what you want to secure. Same goes for Windows, no matter how many rights you set, unless its encrypted (NTFS supports it) it can be viewed somehow.