Vista Help · DIGIT-ARC

Well I today installed Vista Ultimate 64-bit and is lookin OK, not as fast and crisp as XP but will do the job. Just want to know the following:

Where's my Aero? How to turn it ON?
Where's my DirectX 10? How to get it?
Will using 32-bit apps on a 64-bit OS gonna cause any trouble? I'm trying to use at least the drivers 64-bit but most apps are 32-bit like Firefox,Winamp,VLC,Avast,Spybot etc. Are they going to possess or get into any trouble in this 64-bit environment?

Clear my doubts and ye shall thrive.

1) Update all the drivers
2) Run the system analysis again

DirectX 10 is API. Vista comes with directx 10.

you should be able to run 32 bit apps without any problem

1) Update all the drivers -Done
2) Run the system analysis again- Done

Now I've got my Aero, its running OK but When I tried to install programs through Digit's DVD's Autorun Interface, none of them ran. I had to manually run the installers from DVD contents. In case of VLC, all I got was a Zip file which later unzipped to a folder containing just files of VLC, how to actually install it, please guide me. Is it going to be like Linux, compiling Source Code to get it up and running?

Plasma_Snake said:
1) Update all the drivers -Done
2) Run the system analysis again- Done

Now I've got my Aero, its running OK but When I tried to install programs through Digit's DVD's Autorun Interface, none of them ran. I had to manually run the installers from DVD contents. In case of VLC, all I got was a Zip file which later unzipped to a folder containing just files of VLC, how to actually install it, please guide me. Is it going to be like Linux, compiling Source Code to get it up and running?

Since you got the Zipped version of VLC, it is the non-installer version. That means it does not come with an installer and cant be installed. But the program executable is given there and you can run VLC just by clicking it.

Dood I know that but in XP it ran like a charm and was able to shell extend it and all the usual stuff, here it is lying in a folder like a P.O.S which it is not.

that is why i consider XP,as the best os.

Read my siggy and u'll know why I had to shift to this god-awful OS!

^^ still dunno why!!!!!!!!

XP maharaj ki JAI!!

I had to shift because now my RAM is 4GB plus 512MB GDDR3 memory of GPU. XP showed only 3.25GB of RAM whilst now in 64-bit Vista I'm able to fully utilize mt RAM.

Plasma_Snake said:
I had to shift because now my RAM is 4GB plus 512MB GDDR3 memory of GPU. XP showed only 3.25GB of RAM whilst now in 64-bit Vista I'm able to fully utilize mt RAM.

Surely 32 bit XP can't do justice with 4GB RAM while 64 bit Bit Vista can. But I wonder what you'll do with that huge amount of memory to 'fully utilize' it ?

debsuvra said:
Surely 32 bit XP can't do justice with 4GB RAM while 64 bit Bit Vista can. But I wonder what you'll do with that huge amount of memory to 'fully utilize' it ?

OK then here's what I do on my PC:

GAMEZ
Visual Studio 2008
SQL Server 2008
Netbeans
Try Blender and other Animation and Design products
Game Programming
Game Designing

All of the above mentioned tasks are done by me at my own accord, no one teaches or coaches me so there is lot of trial and error involved.

With my new MOBo, in XP the songs sounded awesome and the level of Bass that was earlier provided by my Sub at 4th level was now available at 2nd but in Vista everything has F'd up. I've installed the Realtek drivers, configured the Speakers internally in Vista too, set output volume to maximum but still Output is weak and even turning the bass full up on both Sub and in Winamp doesn't gives good sound. WTH is going on???

Try reformat, and don't install SP1, that's like only thing I can say now!!

Plasma_Snake said:
OK then here's what I do on my PC:

GAMEZ

Visual Studio 2008

SQL Server 2008

Netbeans

Try Blender and other Animation and Design products

Game Programming

Game Designing

All of the above mentioned tasks are done by me at my own accord, no one teaches or coaches me so there is lot of trial and error involved.

With my new MOBo, in XP the songs sounded awesome and the level of Bass that was earlier provided by my Sub at 4th level was now available at 2nd but in Vista everything has F'd up. I've installed the Realtek drivers, configured the Speakers internally in Vista too, set output volume to maximum but still Output is weak and even turning the bass full up on both Sub and in Winamp doesn't gives good sound. WTH is going on???

For one time, play the song in Vista Media Center app. You will see lot of difference in audio quality.

desiibond said:
For one time, play the song in Vista Media Center app. You will see lot of difference in audio quality.

U mean Windows Media Player 11. I did that too and when switched the speakers type to large speakers, no audio output at all!

Well i tried "Windows Media Center" too and here the problem gets worse, it tries to emulate 5.1 surround sound in basic MP3 songs which kills the bass even further, looks like for songs XP is best but I intended to use Vista for these multimedia purposes only and now this is what I get, shitty sound from my good audio setup

So I had to reformat my system again today and earlier too I was using Google's Desktop search on my 64-bit Vista Ultimate and now today when I tried to do so again I got the error that "Google Desktop is not currently compatible with your operating
system. It requires a 32-bit version of Windows Vista, Windows XP
or Windows 2000 Service Pack 3 or above." I tries to run it in compatibility mode for XP SP2 but still of no use. Help me guys!

1. Vista's sound output is much (read again, much) better than XP. What audio card & version of drivers are you using?
2. Google Desktop is only for 32bit XP/Vista, so you cannot use it. A fact accepted by Google and they have said that it is something that they might *consider*.

@ Plasma Snake, I think you are not using the proper 64 bit WHQL certified drivers for your sound card in Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit. May be that is the sole reason for bad audio.

This is my RealTek driver info:
Driver Version- 6.0.1.5628
DirectX version- 10.0
Audio Controller- HD Audio
Audio Codec- ALC1200
Sound from every place, i.e. in Realtek setup, Window's configuration, everywhere has been configured to the max but still the sound I'm getting is not upto the level, which I was getting in XP. Bass has been just snuffed out, highs and mids are clear but without bass they r just waste. Moreover as I said b4, audio level too has dropped, the intesity of sound available at low levels is now accessed at comparably high level.

The sound card is onboard solution available on my ASUS P5QC motherboard and it is very good considering the fact that S/PDIF connectors are also available. Speakers are Creative T6060! The drivers I'm using r the ones that came in the mobo's DVD. how to update them?

Try downloading the drivers here:

*support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us

Alternately to search for updates:

Device Manager -> Sound, video... -> Properties -> Update driver.

I did the latter and there were no updates available. Just checked the link too, provided above, Audio drivers are up to date and WHQL certified. Problem that I've perceived is that Vista is trying to make stereo mp3 songs into multi channel ones, spreading sound over all channels thus giving better highs and mids but killing Bass in the process.

Try 2 things:

1. Control panel -> Sound -> Playback -> Speakers -> Enhancements -> Uncheck "Disable all sound effects".

If that does not work...

2. Under device manager roll back to a Vista driver as in don't install Realtek drivers use Vista's drivers.

If nothing happens, contact Asus.

Plasma_Snake said:
OK then here's what I do on my PC:

With my new MOBo, in XP the songs sounded awesome and the level of Bass that was earlier provided by my Sub at 4th level was now available at 2nd but in Vista everything has F'd up. I've installed the Realtek drivers, configured the Speakers internally in Vista too,

wonder why, on my computer, ive not been able to get the sound quality offered by vista in XP. MP3s sound awesome in vista on my creative 2.1

mobo MSI K9NGM

There's some config issues on his machine. It's not Vista but some settings not proper.

In my next post I'll give u screenies of my config and then u can tell me if its all right or anything wrong

^^What imav said is true. Am getting superb audio quality in Vista's media center. YOu may have to setup speakers again in VMC.

1) Go got Vista Media center -> Tasks -> Settings
2) Go to Windows Media Center Setup
3) Set Up Your Speakers
4) Click on Next
5) Select "2 speakers", click on Next
6) Test and click on next
7) Click on Finish. Now try to play audio in media center.

Also, go to WMP11 and disable SRS and Bass, set the equalizer to one tha suites your need better. Then play music over Vista Media Center.

PS: Vista Media Center uses WMP11 to play audio and video.

Below are the imageshack links to my screenshot uploads of my Audio Configuration,please check them out. My preferred audio player is Winamp and for Video its VLC.
Wud have loved to give the screenies itself here but forum doesn't allows more than 15 so here are the links to the images.

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So i tinkered with the settings a lil bit more and did these 2 things:

Swapped Center channel and Subwoofer inputs from Realtek Audio manager.
Disabled the Bass Management.

The bass has considerably improved but the intensity problem persists. Guess would have to live with it till Windows 7 comes out or migrate completely to Linux.

Plasma_Snake said:
I had to shift because now my RAM is 4GB plus 512MB GDDR3 memory of GPU. XP showed only 3.25GB of RAM whilst now in 64-bit Vista I'm able to fully utilize mt RAM.

Hey..plasma..there is a thread on the same topic..on how 2 utilize RAM in 32-Bit XP
even if u have more than 3.5GB of RAM....so,no problem @ all :))

R

Asus onboard sound does have a problem with x64 vista, specially if you have 4.1 or 5.1 speakers. If you select 2.1 output then it sounds better.
Sound in Xp is better & thats one of the reason I am still with XP (dual boot)

Few days back I extended a partition on my 400GB HDD using Vista's in-built partitioning tool. It made the 400GB HDD into a Dynamic disk. Can I revert it back to its non-dynamic nature with some other partitioning tool? Will there be any loss of data in the process?

Koi jawaab to do!

plasma yaar vista sucks *img507.imageshack.us/img507/8905/20081101012438nn4.th.png*img507.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif
when i copy or transfer data to 1 place to another its too much time i also enable the advanced performance in policy.XP is best

i switch from vista 32 to 64 no performance will be increased yup miss one thing increased my hard disk space its take more space than 32 b

Are you on SP1?

yes

I'm too on SP1 and 80GB of Data transfer between 2 HDD took friggin 6 hours!

Try installing these:

*support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/938979

*depositfiles.com/files/1575704

useless run the setup the message show the update does not apply to your system.i also turn off RDC but vista sucks means sucks

Same here dude, no $hite happens, same message as Nightmare's

plasma finally i fix it disable the the RDC and few service sorry i don't remember the service u can find easily find it just open the service but one thing is dead sure next time when i format my pc the vista is never install in my pc i used Window 7 its works gr8 just using 512 MB RAM i have some driver issue that why i uninstall

Where'd u got Windows 7? How to disable RDC? What is it anyway?

You are kidding. Win7 is not released yet

NIGHTMARE said:
plasma finally i fix it disable the the RDC and few service sorry i don't remember the service u can find easily find it just open the service but one thing is dead sure next time when i format my pc the vista is never install in my pc i used Window 7 its works gr8 just using 512 MB RAM i have some driver issue that why i uninstall

Some punctuation would surely help here.

jojothedragon said:
You are kidding. Win7 is not released yet

He is talking about the Preview version released in PDC last October.

Plasma_Snake said:
Where'd u got Windows 7? How to disable RDC? What is it anyway?

control panel>>programs and features>>(in left side last option) Turn Window features on or off>>Remote Differential Compression disable it

My Enable Features
1-Group Policy Preference CSE
2-Microsoft Net Framework 3.0>>XPS Viewer
3-Print Service>>Internet Printing Client
4-Window DFS Replication service

Remote Differential Compression

Remote Differential Compression (RDC) allows data to be synchronized with a remote source using compression techniques to minimize the amount of data sent across the network.

Many pre-Windows Vista computers and devices are not compatible with RDC which makes transferring files across a network slower for a Windows Visa computer because it’s trying to use RDC.

jojothedragon said:
You are kidding. Win7 is not released yet

i used the Microsoft windows 7 32Bit Build 6801 i know 7 is coming in 2010

bro already fix it still have one issue i can't configure the Wi-Fi with my laptop in XP its works fine but with vista

See here and tell me if its normal

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Vista $uck$ donkey's rear big time in the matter of data transfer. :evil:

i mention some setting above u do that

Kari yaar but no effect

yaar yeh kuch screen shot services jo main ban kar rakhi hai isko try kar le aur Turn window features on & off main jo jo tick hai woh yeh 1-Group Policy preference 2-Microsoft Net Framework 3.0>>XPS Viewer 3-Print Services>>Internet Printed Client 4 Windows DFS Replication Service

Disable this services

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Turn speaker fill on in realtek controt panel and select 5.1 speaker. This will solve the audio problem. I have the same t6060 as you running loud and clear in vista 32bit.

jojothedragon said:
Turn speaker fill on in realtek controt panel and select 5.1 speaker. This will solve the audio problem. I have the same t6060 as you running loud and clear in vista 32bit.

wat r u taking about read carefully then write man

Don't worry dude, he's talking about my earlier faced sound issues. Don't go Postal and be his Nightmare.

Yo! plasma is your audio issue fixed yet? And looks like your hdd is not full formatted or quick formatted. This hdd slow speed might happen for this reason.

I always full format my HDDs and now I've started using Tera Copy and the transfers rates have increased at a geometric rate. Still dunno why native Vista transfer is so slow?

^^well dont be surprised if you HDD's wear out sooner than you thought

Yes.........Tera Copy is an excellent freebee for Vista

@Plasma_Snake read this month Digit Fast Track, past PC World issues or even surf through the pcworld.com website.You will get the best free utilities for Vista there. No more headache. Tame vista to your needs.

Tera copy is a gr8 software. May be you should run chkdsk on your drives to varify their status.