w910i or k850i - A better buy?

My friend needs to buy a multimedia phone.

His primary concern is music followed by a good camera.

He liked SE w910i as it suits his needs perfectly except for the camera.
Then I recommended him K850i. But, then he's (and even me) confused.

What do you guys suggest is a better buy ??
SE w910i @ Rs. 15000 /-
or k850i @ Rs. 16000 /-

Please tell if there are any other good purchases available. We've already thought about N73 ME but, my friend was not very impressed with it's music quality. Next was N82 but, the loudness is not very good in this set.

Thanks in advance !

K850i without any doubt.Ask himto wait for the W760 if he can. It will be available in a while.

Considering the camera my personal choice would be k850i.

K850i.

K850i has one of the best sound quality too, and there has been a long debate on it some days before.
Nyways, it has good quality, but the player is no match for a walkman's

Even SE K810i cud sound really gr8 with custom acostics like Peter's V2 HPM 70 one....wow i love that!!!

Go with SE K850i.

Thanks guys ... I'd definately recommend him K850i now with more confidence.

BTW, I was going through the reviews of c702
What do you guys say about this phone?

Most of features are pretty much da same.. Though c702 is outshone by k850's 5mp cam..

no debatable question only go for K850I ......... tell him to increase his budget a little and get N82

T

I dont understand why did you told n82's loudness low. Are you comparing the speaker loudness or headphone loudness ?

You should really consider n82. Its selected as best cameraphone by TIPA. So no doubt its camera quality. Definitly better than k850i. And 82 also had gps , auto screen rotation , great s60 , a great browser ,3.5 mm jack , ngage game , vga video(its really nice) .

I know n82 may be a bit more than budget , but you should really consider n82 once again.

There's a good comparison of n82 vs k850i given in mobile-review.com . Please check it out.

dude i think everyone hears music through earphone ( exception me

)

pls guys, dont start n82 vs k850i debate again ...

u cant compare a smart phone to a dumb phone ...

and between k850i & w910i .. k850i anyday ..

yup ..sound through speakers in n82 is way lower than that of say, n73 or 6233 ..its about 60% of total speaker volume of n73 .. through headset its as loud as n73 when used with creative ep 630 ..

by the way, why people want to use their cell phone as dedicated hi-fi systems, especially with those tiny speakers..

T

If speaker loudness is main concern . Nothing can beat CHINESE MAAL. You'll even get tv !

^Agree

Tamoghno said:
I dont understand why did you told n82's loudness low. Are you comparing the speaker loudness or headphone loudness ?

Well, I myself own a N82 purchased a month back. And I can tell you that the sound through the speakers is quite low as comapred to other phones. I never listen to songs via headphone so I'll keep quite on this matter.

Anyways, K850i have a lot of similarities with C902. Which one is better of the two?
And is c902 launched? How much is it priced? And what about its sound quality?

T

^^ agree.

But i think its n82's only minus point.

but to cover that they have given the 3.5 mm jack

Tamoghno said:
^^ agree.

But i think its n82's only minus point.

lets say as its n82's only major minus point ..

the other ones will be ,
1. lack of video assist light
2. lack of optical zoom
3. lack of fm transmitter as in n78
4. lack of dvbh as in n96
5. lack of naviwheel as in n78 .. which i think was there in prototype ..but they removed in final version ..

K850i.but there are few new models from SE.you may like to check that out.

yogi7272 said:
pls guys, dont start n82 vs k850i debate again ...

u cant compare a smart phone to a dumb phone ...

so true!

Compare the C905 to the n82 when it comes out. First hands on by me.

yogi7272 said:
lets say as its n82's only major minus point ..

the other ones will be ,
1. lack of video assist light
2. lack of optical zoom
3. lack of fm transmitter as in n78
4. lack of dvbh as in n96
5. lack of naviwheel as in n78 .. which i think was there in prototype ..but they removed in final version ..

but for that much budget it is the best

what is the difference between processors on N78 and N82 ?why N82 is available for Rs19700 and N78 for 2000+

also ,Is N78 the successor of N73 fone?

^^^ N78 is the successor of N73 as stated by others

but i think N82 is the successor of N73

processor power - n78 vs n82?

^^^noob jaisi baatein mat kar.Nokia themselves quoted N78 as N73's successor.noob kahika.

n78 is true successor of n73

but nokia again missed the bus .. they could have included a truly great 3mp cam module with xenon flash in n78 ..

@dream keep your mouth shut

go and read class 9TH 10TH history book and learn that our country is democratic and everyone has the right to express there views

^^aabe noob- you can express ur opinion, just that its too noobish even for a guy like you.

( shut up and don't spam )

you are such a n00b i can't even express in words

duniya mein words ki kami pad jaayegi tumhare jaise jack a$$ ke baare mein bataunga ton

CPU

N78 : FreeScale Semiconductor 32-bit RISC CPU based on ARM-11 series, 369 MHz

N82 : Texas Instruments OMAP 2420, Dual CPU, ARM architecture ARM 11, 332 MHz

^aww! It sounds greek to me

,tell me whose processor is superior in all aspects? :?:

N82's cpu is based on High Performance series of the Texas Instruments OMAP.

OMAP2420 - 330 MHz ARM11 + 220 MHz C55x DSP + PowerVR MBX 2D/3D Graphics Accelerator + IVA

N82 Cpu has a better performance.

Also N82 has 90 Mb free ram , which is double than the n78 free ram of 44 Mb.

^^free ram is firmware dependant. both have 128 mb ram. The next firmare release for the N78 will provide better memory utilization.

And both have significantly the same ARM processor with a few minor tweaks. Its not a computer where the processor will affect the performance a great deal.

dreamcatcher said:
^^free ram is firmware dependant. both have 128 mb ram. The next firmare release for the N78 will provide better memory utilization.

^^ Dude N82 has 128 Mb SDRAM with 90 Mb on fresh boot , while N78 has 96 MB SDRAM memory with 44 Mb free.

Please get your facts straight

N82 & N78 both already have excellent memory utilization techniques. Even if new firmware comes for N78 at the most it can increase a few mb free ram,
And remember N82 also will get an updated firmware , so the same rules apply to it too.

dreamcatcher said:
And both have significantly the same ARM processor with a few minor tweaks. Its not a computer where the processor will affect the performance a great deal.

I am talking about the whole package.
While the N78 is a single CPU , the N82 has a Dual CPU with extra processing for Digital signal processor (DSP). Its performance is significantly better.

Plus N82 also has a Graphics Accelerator which increases multimedia and gaming performance.

Ps. And finally N82 is a top end product while the N78 is aimed at middle class market. So its quite logical that we can deduce that N82 has a better cpu without reading all this stuff

Of course N82 is far more value for money when you compare it with N78.

But, my question is c902 vs N82 / K850i ?
Can anyone help me out on this ?

dreamcatcher said:
^^^noob jaisi baatein mat kar.Nokia themselves quoted N78 as N73's successor.noob kahika.

yogi7272 said:
n78 is true successor of n73

but nokia again missed the bus .. they could have included a truly great 3mp cam module with xenon flash in n78 ..

dreamcatcher said:
^^aabe noob- you can express ur opinion, just that its too noobish even for a guy like you.

krates said:
( shut up and don't spam )

you are such a n00b i can't even express in words

duniya mein words ki kami pad jaayegi tumhare jaise jack a$$ ke baare mein bataunga ton

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krazzy said:
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More SPAM

Cool G5 said:
More SPAM

Even more SPAM.....

Anyways, I would also say to wait for the availability of W760 - Its a good phone...But if you want an answer between these two, then it is surely K850i..

K850i got both - Great camera and sound....Thats why.

dude w910 is made for style. and k850 for feature set.
If had the cash i would gone for the w910i

Hmmm, if we keep the camera factor apart, then does w910 beat k850 ???

And no one answered anything about c902 ... too bad ... :cry:

C902 is a winner.it even sund better than the K850 according to esato users. Havent tried it tho. is a great looker and takes great pics too. Now dont go by beta reviews.

Aah sorry, i thought that the n78 had 128 mb ram.pathetic.

From when did N82 start having a dual core CPU?? ROFLMAO
Both the proccys are the same, the n78 with more clock speed. Its more like the motherboards we get here, branded by some company and added with a few features, but the same intel chipset.

And that logic does not apply, sorry. The N78 is newer and is launched at a price higher than the N82, so it deservingly has the same proccy.

yea, n82 excels in the graphics department, not that it makes toomuch of a difference, coz there are harldy any games available that make use of the accelerator.

dreamcatcher said:
Aah sorry, i thought that the n78 had 128 mb ram.pathetic.

From when did N82 start having a dual core CPU?? ROFLMAO
Both the proccys are the same, the n78 with more clock speed. Its more like the motherboards we get here, branded by some company and added with a few features, but the same intel chipset.

Search in net for N82 cpu , here is a link for starters *en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N82

dreamcatcher said:
And that logic does not apply, sorry. The N78 is newer and is launched at a price higher than the N82, so it deservingly has the same proccy.

yea, n82 excels in the graphics department, not that it makes toomuch of a difference, coz there are harldy any games available that make use of the accelerator.

^^ The logic applies nicely. The only reason N78 is launched at a price higher than the N82 is because its a "newer product" which is true for many consumer items and double true for items imported to India

It is a pity that Nokia doesnot have any mfg plant for higher end mobiles(IIRC).

^^ All SE, Nokia, Moto, LG phones are imported. If I'm not wrong, only Samsung manufactures their phones here.

infact I read ,that nokia is opening its factory in ...bombay or madras ..dont remember.

dreamcatcher said:
C902 is a winner.it even sund better than the K850 according to esato users. Havent tried it tho. is a great looker and takes great pics too. Now dont go by beta reviews.

Wow ... thanks a lot ...

In fact, I sold off my N82 to my friend today. So, I'll be getting a new phone now.

I think I should wait for the C902. It'll be my next phone ... Or maybe the iPhone ... Lets see ...

^kya baat hai!

it is very difficult to convince these things(selling off) without any proofs. I ,once struggled about a w810i of a friend which I tried to sell off for him in a forum made me look bad

.experience.

iatb.gourav said:
Wow ... thanks a lot ...

In fact, I sold off my N82 to my friend today. So, I'll be getting a new phone now.

I think I should wait for the C902. It'll be my next phone ... Or maybe the iPhone ... Lets see ...

Awesum.C902 is available for 19.5k in kolkata.get it.

^^^ Why is it that there are very less reviews of c902?
Except for mobile-review.com, I didn't really find a proper review of C902 on net.
Please tell me if anyone did.

gsmarena has a preview of the c902.Check it out.

K850 is the real deal.

^^^ lol

there have been some major discussions about the K850I vs N82

and after using the N82 i don't think he will be happy with that crap

SE has already opened a plant at Chennai, my friend's w200i was manufactured in Chennai.

^oho!

good.but no not any high end fones or any of the smart phones ,I suppose. all made in china(which I hate wholeheartedly :twisted:

)

dreamcatcher said:
gsmarena has a preview of the c902.Check it out.

I've already seen that. It's too short and incomplete to come to any conclusion. Anyways, thanks for help.

Third Eye said:
K850 is the real deal.

KPower Mania said:
^^^ lol

there have been some major discussions about the K850I vs N82

and after using the N82 i don't think he will be happy with that crap

I personally am never too satisfied with Nokia phones. Maybe, the "looks" are the reason behind it.

And, I don't find it sensible to go for K850i now, since c902 has already been launched. It's an upgrade to k850i and surely will be better than it. Only concern is the small screen size. Still, I'll compromise on it provided that the battery life and sound quality is at least decent.

wow! ur not satisfied with n82 .. that says it all ..

^^^some people aren't, so please dont try to install in them what big fools they are coz you will be the one undermining yourself, and stop being sarcastic with your comments.

iatb.gourav said:
Wow ... thanks a lot ...

In fact, I sold off my N82 to my friend today. So, I'll be getting a new phone now.

I think I should wait for the C902. It'll be my next phone ... Or maybe the iPhone ... Lets see ...

infact u didnt even bought the N82 . You were just playing fools with every1 here :wink:

iatb.gourav said:
And, I don't find it sensible to go for K850i now, since c902 has already been launched. It's an upgrade to k850i and surely will be better than it. Only concern is the small screen size. Still, I'll compromise on it provided that the battery life and sound quality is at least decent.

C902 is not an upgrade to K850i. K850i was SE's imaging device whereas C902 is a fashion device. The 5mp camera is just for the sake of it. It's true purpose is not to take great pictures but to just look good in hand with it's slim design and all. Both K850i, N82 and even the 6220 Classic take better photos than C902. The sensor in the C902 is designed more to fit in a small phone than to take great pictures. Check out Mobile-Review's review of C902 if you don't believe me.

SE K850i would be a good choice for your friend, considering his requirements

@ dream

keep ur expert comments to urself. I surely dont need ur advice on how to reply to others ..

Obviously K850i

utsav said:
infact u didnt even bought the N82 . You were just playing fools with every1 here

+1

.......

If you dint buy the N82 and were fooling with us then god save you from me..

lol gud joke gud joke :))

dreamcatcher said:
If you dint buy the N82 and were fooling with us then god save you from me..

And if so then god saves you from me tooo

are we fools sitting here suggesting and fighting over what you were going to buy

hey yogi and power up ask him some question relating to N82,which a person who is having the N82 will only be able to answer !!!

~~~~~
i am krates

^

so we were hearing story about the purchase of N82 :lol:

I appreciate if he can tell boldly that he DIDNOT bought N82

KPower Mania said:
And if so then god saves you from me tooo

are we fools sitting here suggesting and fighting over what you were going to buy

hey yogi and power up ask him some question relating to N82,which a person who is having the N82 will only be able to answer !!!

~~~~~
i am krates

lol its no use fighting with him Krates , we will just go in circles and circles

Anyway welcome dude

utsav said:
infact u didnt even bought the N82 . You were just playing fools with every1 here

Wow ... What should I say you?
Do you have a Sixth Sense? Or a Third Eye? Or hmmm ... are you a Fortune Teller? Or maybe a Wild Guesser ....

Whatever you are, I just want to ask you 1 thing. Why on earth would I tell that I have purchased a N82 if I hadn't?

Power UP said:
+1 .......

dreamcatcher said:
If you dint buy the N82 and were fooling with us then god save you from me..

KPower Mania said:
And if so then god saves you from me tooo

are we fools sitting here suggesting and fighting over what you were going to buy

hey yogi and power up ask him some question relating to N82,which a person who is having the N82 will only be able to answer !!!

~~~~~
i am krates

praka123 said:
^ so we were hearing story about the purchase of N82 I appreciate if he can tell boldly that he DIDNOT bought N82

@ utsav: Did you read the above? Think over it. Just one foolish statement from you has made me a culprit. And I feel so guilty ... in spite of the fact that I have not done anything wrong.

Is it necessary that 1 phone can satisfy everyone ???
N82 is a gr8 phone ... no doubt.
But, read all my posts. I've mentioned before that the sound output is very poor.
So, when I got an opportunity to sell off my cell, I thought to utilize it.

But ... why am I explaining myself ??
It was a stupid statement from utsav that created all this mess.
So, it should be utsav who should me feeling guilty.

Nevertheless, from your posts I feel that I have done "something horribly wrong" in the eyes of you all.

One request, please don't blame anyone without any strong reason. It hurts one's self dignity !!!

In fact, I feel ashamed that I thought I was a part of this forum and you all were my friends.
I was wrong ...

Sorry ...
Sorry for what I didn't do ...

guys, just chill yaar .. we dont need to fight over phones .. as if nokia or se is going to pay us to promote their models ..

ok .. so u purchased and sold it . fine then .. reason could be loudness of speakers .. great ..

^^^ Thats not the matter yogi.

read all the quotes in my previous post.

Even before given a chance to explain myself, I was already made a CULPRIT.
It really did make me feel horribly bad.

All thanks to the wild thoughts running on utsav's mind !!!

gourav relax man we were just playing jokes on each other

And as Yogi said no need to fight over se or nokia etc.

Ps. But do remeber u sacrificed some nice features for some slight loudness.......but anyway the consumer satisfaction is the main point. Hope u enjoy ur new phone

yup its not about the phone but about what the person feels about it. everybody says k750i was a great phone but i got bored very soon.

H

Woah ok, I see no point in continuing this discussion, it's getting personal now and all the flamebaits beware. If the OP wants this thread to remain open, PM me with your reason.

Closed!