Wait for Nehalem · DIGIT-ARC

Hi Guys

I was planning to buy a rig this month (*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93354).
But with nehalem in september, will it be wise to wait till then and buy a nehalem rig. What would be the cost of a mid-end nehalem rig. Looking forward to your thoughts.

Nehalem will be having lots of latency issues to start with...it wil take a year to be mainstream....

Get a c2Q and be happy

But if i get C2Q now, after one year it will not be upgradable (due to socket differences). I experienced it in my first rig, I dont want to repeat the same mistake again. Will it be worth to buy during nov to dec in festival season.

S

get it now. . not much point waiting for nehalem as prices will be ultra high

I'll also vote for Quad core.

N

no use spending so much on a pc now..wait for nehalems
get a temp rig if u want for now.sempron or something

Isn't Nehalem DDR3 only?

N

yea
but DDR3 will b cheaper then for sure

Oh.. ok.. But i would still suggest a high end Quad Core processor. And OC it.
But the best thing is to wait and see what performance they offer once the official reviews are out. If they look promising, only then buy them.

Will Nehalms be Socket 775..??

^^Nope..
Its socket 1366 or something like that..

nish_higher said:
*news.softpedia.com/news/Intel-Reveals-Nehalem-Socket-Design-72265.shtml

Hey thanks for sharing...its LGA715. (Socket H) or it could be LGA1160..!!!

So the LGA775 will not be compatible with Nehalms...best choice would be to go for a Quad Core...the new Nehalms..will be far to expensive..and with DDR3 (being produced less--for some reason)...will make a too expensive setup. And prices in India..

Expensive..!

I think Nehalem & DDDR3 prices will come down here in mid of 2009 or at the end of 2009

or may be at the beginning of 2010

@ nish_higher
Thanks for the Link.

N

no no it was mistake i gave a wrong link in a hurry

sorry
check this
*www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2282

*www.hardware.info/en-US/news/ymickpqTwpaaaZY/New_Nehalem_LGA1366_socket_is_stronger/

nish_higher said:
no no it was mistake i gave a wrong link in a hurry

sorry
check this
*www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2282

*www.hardware.info/en-US/news/ymickpqTwpaaaZY/New_Nehalem_LGA1366_socket_is_stronger/

OK, No problem. Checked both links.

topgear said:
I think Nehalem & DDDR3 prices will come down here in mid of 2009 or at the end of 2009
or may be at the beginning of 2010

No way! If thats the case, then Nehalem will never make it into the mid-range computer market.

N

nehalem's price cant come down without competetion or introduction of newer proccys..it wont happen soon enough-so hope that nehalems are priced better.

but DDR3 would definitely get cheaper.already 4GB OCZ DDR3 is available for about 10k , though not what u expect for that price coz its 1333mhz and DDR2 @half price runs at 1100mhz..

But Intel will surely reduce the price of Nehalem processors whether they have competition from AMD or not. They will obviously be better than the current generation of AMD processors. So they'll reduce the prices so people will buy that instead of AMD processors. And in the process, AMD's sales will go down again and they will suffer loses again.

N

that will happen when AMD gets into DDR3 scene

[OT]-I used AS5 on my 8600GTS ESE

^^Not necessarily. Intel will want to get their share in the low-end and mid-range processor segment which is currently the only place where AMD sells most of their products. They will either reduce the prices of Nehalem and make them affordable to budget buyers or they will reduce the prices of the current generation processors(like C2Q) so that even low-end computers can have them. That way, they'll knock of AMD from the market for sometime.

[OT]
How much did AS cost? Is it effective?[/OT]

N

^350 bucks and its effective-helped me sell my card
i think 2-3 months ago chip posted a tutorial on how to add custom cooler..check it.

and if i know intel its gonna be some current gen proccy price slash-they alredy decreased Quad price yesterday i think

^^Yup.. Thats what I'm telling.. If they wont reduce the prices of Nehalem, then the prices of the current generation processors will be cut by a huge margin. Maybe they'll make C2Qs affordable to low-end computer buyers.

Do you know which month exactly? And how much will it reduce the temperature? At least 20C?

N

18degree on one card and 13 on other (my frnd's 8800 GT Alpha dog)

i'll check the issue and scan that page if possible

hey all. jst a bit of info.. Nehalem,s were never meant to go mainstream btw.. they are ultra-high-end chips. like SKULLTRAIL .. nd altho they wud be launched soon . wid X58 .. NEHALEM,s are never coming to mainstream.. expect similar chips to hit the market last quater this year or Q1 next year.. also intel is going to work indigenously to get ddr3 prices and latences down.. expect it to be 1.5 times ddr mem at Q1 next year... i,d suggest if u can wait ... then you should . the Tick is coming .. and it always pays off to wait wherever computers are concerned

The wait is in most cases endless; and in this case, its almost forever.

I suggest you wait for Socket B (LGA1366).
Plus the single socket desktop variant - Bloomfield is bound to be cheap(er?) + mainstream.
Not to mention AMD will also roll out its AM3 socket.
The new sockets will atleast insure you for a year and a half to come.

If you upgrade now your CPU socket + memory will be totally useless in about one product cycle's time.

Even I was about to upgrade but have decided to wait for another few months.
It happened to me with the Socket 478~LGA 775 transition, and I wont repeat my error again.

AMD's next gen budget systems are going to rule. Quad Core 2.1GHz OCs to 3.4GHz !

^^Which processor you talking about?

^^ Deneb.

Pathik said:
^^ Deneb.

but it remains to be seen weather its dual channel mem or triple chanel mem supporting CPU.
and its mobo might have new RV700 series GPU too... hopefully it will be as strong as 8600GT

Nehalem is not for gamers. I am going to buy the system as planned except replacing core2duo by quad core. Can you tell me best quad core for gamming(around 200$)

^^
woot !! nehalem's not for gamers ??? good god.. thanx for the reply mate..

hew..:

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yup, me too looking for a gaming rig so im too waiting for replies... my budget will be 70K

^ nehalem not for gamers

Why so?

SenthilAnandh said:
Nehalem is not for gamers. I am going to buy the system as planned except replacing core2duo by quad core. Can you tell me best quad core for gamming(around 200$)

Like you have many options? Get the Q6600. what else?

^^ ..lol..

Btw, buddy, can u list down the mobo, proccy, RAM, SMPS and graphics card for the same config...(or any better if there is available for gaming) for a 70K budget..

i wud be obliged..as really do not hv any latest info on these systems/components..

currently hv a p4 2.0 ghz with 2GB ddr1 and 256 MB nvidia agp

Quad Core Q9300 2.50 GHz 11000
Asus P5Q Pro 9000
Corsair DDR 2 TWIN2X4096-6400C5 (2 X 2GB) 5000
Seagate Sata 2 1 Terabyte (32 MB Buffer) 8000
CoolerMaster RC330KKR1 Elite 330 Black 1800
CoolerMaster RP-600-PCAR Extreme Power 600W 3100
GeCube HD4870 512MB DDR5 16000
Viewsonic LCD 22" 2235WM 13000
Creative Inspire 5.1 Spkrs M5200 3900
Logitech G1 Gaming Destop Key + Mouse 1300

*www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=480

H

i think that its better to wait 4 Nehalem till November-December and if u can get a decent enuf Nehalem config in ur budget then get 1 else go for Core2.

i myself am not upgrading now and waiting till mid november to see whether i can get a good nehalem proccy + mobo & gfx card & ddr 3 ram in 40-50k.if i dont get then i shall move to P45/X48 & ddr3

A

well, atleast let nahelam release and see if other prices decrease or not, that is what I am doing. Running on my laptop for now.

Even me waitin so tht someone ll sell their C2D and C2Q wit a nice p45/p35 boards...