Want to build a desktop that has an upgrade path ahead

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Hi All,

My personal Laptop is broke. And I immediately need to buy a new machine. I usually dont take my laptop anywhere else. It was used at my home only. So I thought better to go for a desktop than a laptop. I believe, for the same money I spend on a laptop, I can get a desktop with better confiuration. This is my first desktop. I want to start with a small budget and upgrade it as and when time and money permits me. So I definitely want an upgrade path ahead.

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Right now I will be using it for web browsing(Very Heavy browsing/downloading), Should be able to run applications related to my work. (Java, Tomcat, JBoss/Glassfish app servers, Eclipse, Dreamweaver etc..). I dont have any games in my mind right now. But would like to play some once I can upgrade my machine with graphics cards and whatever.

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: I need the basic setup done for 30K.

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: I am not planning to do any overclocking, but not averse to the idea.

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: I need to install 2 OSes. Ubuntu and Windows 7/8.

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: As much as the budget permits.

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: Yes, I need to buy a monitor. If I can use my Samsung 5000 series HDTV as a monitor, I can wait a little more to buy a monitor.

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: I dont have any components. I want to buy all necessary components.

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: Immediately.

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: Well, I didn't think about that one.

Since this a desktop we are talking about, and I plan to upgrade it as and when I can, I want to assemble the machine myself. I dont want to carry my CPU to get the upgrade done.

To be honest, I haven't even seen a desktop being assembled. But if it is not a very difficult task, I would like to assemble it myself and learn something new along the way.

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: I live in Bangalore. Since I am planning to do the assembling, I am open to buying stuff online also.

11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans: As I informed earlier, I urgently need to buy the desktop and cannot spend all the money I wanted to spent on it right now. I will do that gradually. I dont want to settle with an old motherboard to keep the budget. Now I can do with necessary components that would allow me to browse internet and do some programming. (I dont want to spend money on graphics cards/Headset/speakers/SSDs/MousePad right now, if I can avoid buying it now. I can even buy the monitor 1 or 2 months later, if I can use my TV as the monitor. )

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My recommendation:-

I3 3220 -7000
Gigabyte B75 -4000
Sapphire HD 5450-2000
Corsair/Gskill 4gb ram-2000
WD Blue 500GB-3200
Dell 20inch -6500
CM Elite 310-1800
ASUS B5St OPD-1000
Logitech MK200 KB/M-700
Corsair V430V2-2600

Total 30,800

the HD5450 can do for now, through i seriously recommend you change that first when you start upgrading.

Shiva

FX 6300 (7000)
Asus M5A97 R2.0 (6200)
G.Skill RipjawsX 4 GB 1600 MHz (2200)
WD Blue 500 GB (3000)
Corsair CX430v2 (2700)
Asus HD7770 (8000)
Any zebronics cabinet (1000)
Asus Optical Drive (1000)
Logitech Mk200 (750)

total: 31850

get a monitor later.

T

harshilsharma63 said:
FX 6300 (7000)
Asus M5A97 R2.0 (6200)
G.Skill RipjawsX 4 GB 1600 MHz (2200)
WD Blue 500 GB (3000)
Corsair CX430v2 (2700)
Asus HD7770 (8000)
Any zebronics cabinet (1000)
Asus Optical Drive (1000)
Logitech Mk200 (750)

total: 31850

get a monitor later.

+1. Nice config.

vyamoham said:
1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Right now I will be using it for web browsing(Very Heavy browsing/downloading), Should be able to run applications related to my work. (Java, Tomcat, JBoss/Glassfish app servers, Eclipse, Dreamweaver etc..).

shivakanth.sujit said:
My recommendation:-
I3 3220 -7000

@ shivakanth.sujit Ivy bridge is to be phased out as Haswell is soon on Horizon & OP wants an upgradeable sys so no ques of i3

If you don't plan gaming then you may subtract from GFX & get a FX 83x0

shivakanth.sujit said:
My recommendation:-

I3 3220 -7000
Gigabyte B75 -4000
Sapphire HD 5450-2000
Corsair/Gskill 4gb ram-2000
WD Blue 500GB-3200
Dell 20inch -6500
CM Elite 310-1800
ASUS B5St OPD-1000
Logitech MK200 KB/M-700
Corsair V430V2-2600

Total 30,800

the HD5450 can do for now, through i seriously recommend you change that first when you start upgrading.

Shiva

whats that??

harshilsharma63 said:
FX 6300 (7000)
Asus M5A97 R2.0 (6200)
G.Skill RipjawsX 4 GB 1600 MHz (2200)
WD Blue 500 GB (3000)
Corsair CX430v2 (2700) <--- Antec VP450
Asus HD7770 (8000)
Any zebronics cabinet (1000)
Asus Optical Drive (1000)
Logitech Mk200 (750)

total: 31850

get a monitor later.

replied

on 2nd thoughts..

get a 2-3K cheap a$$ GPU for now and invest in a better Cabinet like the Corsair 300R/something equivalent.

trust me, the zebronics cabby is not something youd want for a long term investment.

get a better GPU later.

S

Chaitanya said:
@ shivakanth.sujit Ivy bridge is to be phased out as Haswell is soon on Horizon & OP wants an upgradeable sys so no ques of i3

If you don't plan gaming then you may subtract from GFX & get a FX 83x0

I was trying to fit in the budget.since OP can buy the monitor later then harshil's config is good.

Shiva

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Hi All,

Thanks for the responses. I checked with local merchant about the prices for the components and I have decided the following configuration.

AMD FX 8350 - 11150
Asus M2A97 R 2.0 - 6300
G Skill RipJaws 8 GB(1600) - 4250
WD Blue 1 TB (64 MB cache) - 3750
CoolerMaster 311 - 2150
Asus 5450 - 1900
Power Supply - 800
Asus 24x DVD Writer - 975
MK 200 - 680

Total - 31955 + Tax (He gave me quote of 34000, including Windows 8 Home).

Do you think the prices are reasonable? Do you guys suggest any other changes?

For now I will buy a cheap PSU and Graphics card. In another 2 - 3 months, I can manage around 15-18k for PSU and GFX. I saw another motherboard asus m5a97 evo r2.0. Is it different from asus m5a97 r2.0?

Now that Haswell processors are out, does that provide a better upgrade path? If I go for Haswell based configuration, can I still be in budget(I will get the graphics card later)? I can spend as much as 40,000 now(It is including windows 8, tax and whatever).

Thanks again for all the responses.

vyamoham said:
Hi All,

Thanks for the responses. I checked with local merchant about the prices for the components and I have decided the following configuration.

AMD FX 8350 - 11150
Asus M2A97 R 2.0 - 6300
G Skill RipJaws 8 GB(1600) - 4250
WD Blue 1 TB (64 MB cache) - 3750
CoolerMaster 311 - 2150
Asus 5450 - 1900
Power Supply - 800
Asus 24x DVD Writer - 975
MK 200 - 680

Total - 31955 + Tax (He gave me quote of 34000, including Windows 8 Home).

Do you think the prices are reasonable? Do you guys suggest any other changes?

For now I will buy a cheap PSU and Graphics card. In another 2 - 3 months, I can manage around 15-18k for PSU and GFX. I saw another motherboard asus m5a97 evo r2.0. Is it different from asus m5a97 r2.0?

Now that Haswell processors are out, does that provide a better upgrade path? If I go for Haswell based configuration, can I still be in budget(I will get the graphics card later)? I can spend as much as 40,000 now(It is including windows 8, tax and whatever).

Thanks again for all the responses.

> Local PSU with FX 8350 = huge disaster. Buy a good quality PSU or don't buy anything :facepalm:

> EVO has more connection options and a better build quality. It also has better (6+2 I think) VRM design as compared to 4+2 VRM on non EVO. The price difference the two is just 1k, so I suggest you to get the EVO version of the motherboard.

> 31k for the components and 3k extra for the OS? Seems suspicious.

> Windows 8 home? What SKU is that? There is just "Windows 8", "Windows 8 Pro", "Windows 8 Enterprise" and "Windows 8 RT". he is offering you pirated copy most probably (for 3k)

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harshilsharma63 said:
> Local PSU with FX 8350 = huge disaster. Buy a good quality PSU or don't buy anything

Okay, I thought the PSU is required if I go for a Graphics Card. I will get an Antec 450 PSU then. That PSU should do fine for a graphics card of range 15k?

harshilsharma63 said:
> EVO has more connection options and a better build quality. It also has better (6+2 I think) VRM design as compared to 4+2 VRM on non EVO. The price difference the two is just 1k, so I suggest you to get the EVO version of the motherboard.

Okay thanks.

harshilsharma63 said:
> 31k for the components and 3k extra for the OS? Seems suspicious.

It is 32k for the components and another 2k as Tax and for Windows 8 installaton.

harshilsharma63 said:
> Windows 8 home? What SKU is that? There is just "Windows 8", "Windows 8 Pro", "Windows 8 Enterprise" and "Windows 8 RT". he is offering you pirated copy most probably (for 3k)

Not exactly sure whether he said Windows 8 Home, I might have added the "Home" part. My mistake.

If I am not asking too much, I wanted to know about the intel configuration also. Will I be able to get Haswell based system for 40,000 (Not including the graphics card)? Is it right that Haswell processor has integrated GPU?(If so I can avoid buying Asus HD 5450, that gives another 2000 for Processor and mobo.)

Or by introduction of Haswell series are we expecting any price cut for ivy processors in near future(2-3 weeks)? Should I wait and go for a Ivy machine rather than FX 8350 based machine?

vyamoham said:
If I am not asking too much, I wanted to know about the intel configuration also. Will I be able to get Haswell based system for 40,000 (Not including the graphics card)? Is it right that Haswell processor has integrated GPU?(If so I can avoid buying Asus HD 5450, that gives another 2000 for Processor and mobo.)

Or by introduction of Haswell series are we expecting any price cut for ivy processors in near future(2-3 weeks)? Should I wait and go for a Ivy machine rather than FX 8350 based machine?

Yes, you can get a Heswall config for that price, if gaming isn't an extreme priority, the FX 8350 is the best choice. the only advangate you;ll get with haswell over FX 8350 is slightly better gaming performance. Plus, with FX 8350, you'll have the ability to overclock at a much much cheaper price and a system which is more future proof and upgradable.

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harshilsharma63 said:
Yes, you can get a Heswall config for that price, if gaming isn't an extreme priority, the FX 8350 is the best choice. the only advangate you;ll get with haswell over FX 8350 is slightly better gaming performance. Plus, with FX 8350, you'll have the ability to overclock at a much much cheaper price and a system which is more future proof and upgradable.

Then FX 8350 it is. Please suggest a good Graphics card also. I will buy it after 20th of this month(In my next credit card billing cycle). Also a VFM monitor. Would prefer a 22" Full HD monitor.

Thanks Harshil

vyamoham said:
Then FX 8350 it is. Please suggest a good Graphics card also. I will buy it after 20th of this month(In my next credit card billing cycle). Also a VFM monitor. Would prefer a 22" Full HD monitor.

Thanks Harshil

>For monitor, Dell S2240L (8.5k) is the best offering in that budget.

>For graphic card, at 20k, adding another 2k to get the Sapphire HD7950 vapourX would be worthy.

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harshilsharma63 said:
>For monitor, Dell S2240L (8.5k) is the best offering in that budget.

>For graphic card, at 20k, adding another 2k to get the Sapphire HD7950 vapourX would be worthy.

Antec 450 PSU would support Sapphire HD7950 vapourX? Or do I need a better PSU then?

vyamoham said:
Antec 450 PSU would support Sapphire HD7950 vapourX? Or do I need a better PSU then?

Absolutely not sir..

You may see for Seasonic S12II 620W / Antec HCG 620 / Corsair TX 650 (non m version)

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Hi All,

I finalized the configuration into

AMD FX 8350 - 11150
Asus M2A97 EVO R 2.0 - 7200
G Skill RipJaws 8 GB(1600) - 4250
WD Blue 1 TB (64 MB cache) - 3750
CoolerMaster 311 - 2150
Sapphire HD7950 vapourX - 22000
Seasonic S12II 620 Watts PSU - 5400
Asus 24x DVD Writer - 975
MK 200 - 680
Dell S2240L - 8500

Do you guys suggest anyother changes? I will make the purchase next week (in my next billing cycle). Will buy Graphics card and monitor from credit card and others by cash. That gives me 2 months salary before I need to pay for them.

How good is Dell S2240L for gaming? I dont want head aches by playing games.

CoolerMaster 311 cabinet would be enough to accomodate all these components? or do I need to look for a better cabinet?

If I am not doing any overclocking, I dont need any cooler right? Or do I need to buy them also now?

Thanks again for all the response.

Change the cabinet to nzxt gamma.

Change the cabinet to nzxt gamma.

vyamoham said:
1. CoolerMaster 311 cabinet would be enough to accomodate all these components? or do I need to look for a better cabinet?

2. If I am not doing any overclocking, I dont need any cooler right? Or do I need to buy them also now?

3. Thanks again for all the response.

1. It's Enough but you may like to get something better...

2. Not required at all

3. Welcome

Get a 500W + PSU. My suggestion is Seasonic SS12II 520W

vyamoham said:
Seasonic S12II 620 Watts PSU - 5400

Cilus said:
Get a 500W + PSU. My suggestion is Seasonic SS12II 520W

S12II 620 is 500W+ AFAIK ;-)

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Thank you Cilus. I will get Seasonic SS12II 520W PSU. Later, if add more HDD or an SSD this PSU will suffice? If I do overclocking, will this be sufficient? I haven't done that before. But in case, I wanted to try it, can 520W handle that too?

What about the monitor? Is Dell S2240L good enough for gaming?

For cabinet, I can get NZXT Gamma. Are there other suggestions?

Suggest me a UPS as well..

Thanks for all the wonderful responses so far. This forum is helping a lot of guys like me who have next to no knowledge of hardware. Keep up the good work.

Thanks again..

vyamoham said:
Thank you Cilus. I will get Seasonic SS12II 520W PSU. Later, if add more HDD or an SSD this PSU will suffice?

What about the monitor? Is Dell S2240L good enough for gaming?

For cabinet, I can get NZXT Gamma. Are there other suggestions?

Suggest me a UPS as well..

Thanks for all the wonderful responses so far. This forum is helping a lot of guys like me who have next to no knowledge of hardware. Keep up the good work.

Thanks again..

yes dell s2240l is very good monitor for price.it has ips panel + full hd and enough for gaming.get it with eyes closed

you can nzxt source 210 (rs 2800 at local store) - NZXT Source 210 Black with Window Cabinet

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For UPS get an APC RS-600 ups. SHould be enough.

And now,if you want to assemble the pc yourself and learn how to do it,watch the 3 tutorials by newegg.
These videos are very helpful,easy to understand and explain things well. Be patient. And just for safety,have someone knowledgeable around when you assemble.

1.) *www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIXAtNGGCw

2.) *www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls

3.) *www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxaVBsXEiok

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Hi All.

Is this Asus Hd 7950 directcu II top 3gd5 - Golchha Computers same as Sapphire HD7950 vapourX? Or is it different? I also saw SAPPHIRE VAPOR-X HD7970 3GB DDR5 boost edition. but it costs more. Around 30,000.

NZXT Lexa S cabinet looks cool. Will I be able use that cabinet instead of Gamma/Source 210?

I also found *www.golchhait.com/index.php/build-ur-pc/product/1976-gskill-ripjawsx-8gb-1866mhz. This is just Rs. 400 more than 1600 MHz. Should I go for this? Or 1600MHz is just fine?

Can I do overclocking with 520W PSU? Or do I need a 620W?

Thanks.

^ yes it can even be considered.asus 7950 has very good cooling and quality + at good price.

@30k it was hd 7970 not hd 7950

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Thanks Ashish,

few more doubts.

NZXT Lexa S cabinet looks cool. Will I be able use that cabinet instead of Gamma/Source 210? Will all my components fit in it?

I also found *www.golchhait.com/index.php/b...sx-8gb-1866mhz. This is just Rs. 400 more than 1600 MHz. Should I go for this? Or 1600MHz is just fine?

Can I do overclocking with 520W PSU? Or do I need a 620W?

I saw a motherboard M5A99X EVO R20. Is it any better than M5A97 EVO R20? Or it makes difference only if I go for mutiple graphics card?

vyamoham said:
Thanks Ashish,

few more doubts.

NZXT Lexa S cabinet looks cool. Will I be able use that cabinet instead of Gamma/Source 210? Will all my components fit in it?

I also found *www.golchhait.com/index.php/b...sx-8gb-1866mhz. This is just Rs. 400 more than 1600 MHz. Should I go for this? Or 1600MHz is just fine?

Can I do overclocking with 520W PSU? Or do I need a 620W?

I saw a motherboard M5A99X EVO R20. Is it any better than M5A97 EVO R20? Or it makes difference only if I go for mutiple graphics card?

> Lexa S does not have front USB 3.0 ports. there are better cabinets that it in the same price range. if you can spend 4k on the cabinet, then get Corsair 300R eyes closed: probably the best cabinet at its price .

> Stick to the standard speed 1600 MHz ram. you can always overclock it though.

> 520W PSU is enough for overclocking the cpu and gpu.

> Yes it makes sense only if you go for multi-gpu setup.

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Hi All,

I had to buy a PC for my brother.
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/pc-components-configurations/175016-need-build-professional-pc.html

So I could not buy this PC. Just reopening the thread.

I saw a configuration

AMD FX 8350 DESKTOP 8 CORE - Golchha Computers

How different is this from the suggested configuration? Can I go with this?
Are there any custom changes that I need to do along with this PC?

Thanks

Chaitanya said:
S12II 620 is 500W+ AFAIK

there's two model. This one is 620W.

Jripper said:
For UPS get an APC RS-600 ups. SHould be enough.

Any PC with anything greater than an i3 with a lower mid range and above should atleast consider APC 1.1KVA(660W).

With the 600VA(360W) model suggested above you can get around 2mins in gaming load but later when battery wear level is near 70% you will get near 1 mins.

vyamoham said:
Hi All,

I finalized the configuration into

AMD FX 8350 - 11150
Asus M2A97 EVO R 2.0 - 7200
G Skill RipJaws 8 GB(1600) - 4250
WD Blue 1 TB (64 MB cache) - 3750
CoolerMaster 311 - 2150
Sapphire HD7950 vapourX - 22000
Seasonic S12II 620 Watts PSU - 5400
Asus 24x DVD Writer - 975
MK 200 - 680
Dell S2240L - 8500

Do you guys suggest anyother changes? I will make the purchase next week (in my next billing cycle). Will buy Graphics card and monitor from credit card and others by cash. That gives me 2 months salary before I need to pay for them.

How good is Dell S2240L for gaming? I dont want head aches by playing games.

CoolerMaster 311 cabinet would be enough to accomodate all these components? or do I need to look for a better cabinet?

If I am not doing any overclocking, I dont need any cooler right? Or do I need to buy them also now?

Thanks again for all the response.

vyamoham said:
So I could not buy this PC. Just reopening the thread.
How different is this from the suggested configuration? Can I go with this?
Are there any custom changes that I need to do along with this PC?

Thanks

considering about stated build
Well what gfx are they providing?? I think some cheapy one.
Also I doubt about PSU ( 90%+ chances are there that you are getting a crappy CM PSU+cabby)
Hence I suggest to drop this one & get the one suggested in thread.

avinandan012 said:
there's two model. This one is 620W.

I know...
Cilus said to get S12II 520 & op was already getting S12II 620 so i said 620=500+ :-D

V

ok.. Then I will go with the following configuration.

AMD FX 8350 : 11299
GSKILL RIPJAWS 8 GB 1600MHZ : 4300
CORSAIR 300R CASE : 4000
SEASONIC 520W POWER SUPPLY : 3799
ASUS DVR RW DRW24B5ST INTERNAL SATA : 999
Logitech G1 Gaming Desktop : 1499
M5A97 EVO-R2.0 : 7000
WD 1TB Blue Iinternal hdd : 3800
Dell S2240L : 8500

Total : 45196 + Tax

Please suggest a graphics card also. Now, I want a low cost one. I cannot spend too much on graphics card now. I will upgrade it later. I will try few games and if I enjoy them, then will decide whether to spend that much on a graphics card or not. I need a UPS too. UPS, I will take APC 1.1kv. How much does this cost?

Any changes are required in the config?

I heard that with the stock cooler, 8350 generates too much heat and is noisy. Do I need a better fan/cooler?

vyamoham said:
ok.. Then I will go with the following configuration.

AMD FX 8350 : 11299
GSKILL RIPJAWS 8 GB 1600MHZ : 4300
CORSAIR 300R CASE : 4000
SEASONIC 520W POWER SUPPLY : 3799
ASUS DVR RW DRW24B5ST INTERNAL SATA : 999
Logitech G1 Gaming Desktop : 1499
M5A97 EVO-R2.0 : 7000
WD 1TB Blue Iinternal hdd : 3800
Dell S2240L : 8500

Total : 45196 + Tax

Please suggest a graphics card also. Now, I want a low cost one. I cannot spend too much on graphics card now. I will upgrade it later. I will try few games and if I enjoy them, then will decide whether to spend that much on a graphics card or not. I need a UPS too. UPS, I will take APC 1.1kv. How much does this cost?

Any changes are required in the config?

I heard that with the stock cooler, 8350 generates too much heat and is noisy. Do I need a better fan/cooler?

> Config is good.

> For graphic card, get HD7750 now if you can.

> APC 1.1 kVA is good. it will cost you around 4 to 4.5k

> FX 8350's stock cooler is sufficient for stock speeds and for few 100 MHz of overclock. You shouldn't upgrade the cooler unless you are running the pc 24x7 or overclocking it.

vyamoham said:
Please suggest a graphics card also. Now, I want a low cost one. I cannot spend too much on graphics card now. I will upgrade it later. I will try few games and if I enjoy them, then will decide whether to spend that much on a graphics card or not

I heard that with the stock cooler, 8350 generates too much heat and is noisy. Do I need a better fan/cooler?

Well then I say you should put GFX on hold.. get 1.5-2k card / gather amount for HD7950/7970/ GTX760 & then only get a card..

AMD cooler is quite good upto 4GHz

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Without a discrete graphics card the 8350 will not work right? I need some graphics card. Which graphics card should I go for?

Is HD7750 good for that? how much does it cost? If I decide to buy a good graphics card like HD7950/7970/ GTX760 later, will this card be useless? Will I still be able to use HD7750 in multi GPU mode (CrossFire/SLI or whatever. I don't know). Or the multi GPUs should be of same type? Instead of getting a HD7950 later, can I get another HD7750 and do crossfire? Does my motherboard support this? Or should I go for M5A99 board? If HD7750 is not good enough for this, which card should I buy, that can be used to crossfire. I can manage around 10k for graphics card now.

If these are not options, please let me know about a cheap card, that I can dispose without worrying.

vyamoham said:
I can manage around 10k for graphics card now.
If these are not options, please let me know about a cheap card, that I can dispose without worrying.

For 10k get GTX650 afterwards get HD 7970 & use this for PhysX..

HD7750 Cf is very bad idea..
7870 is min fo a good CF( BTW currently AMD drivers are playing hell)

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Chaitanya said:
For 10k get GTX650 afterwards get HD 7970 & use this for PhysX..

I did not understand this. What is PhysX? Is it something like crossfire/SLI?

Yeah few guys in this forum have this multi GPU setup..
PhysX is a nVidia special effect thingy for physics of game although a few games use it
PhysX - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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>There are a couple of drawbacks with having a dedicated PhysX video card. The main one is power consumption. You PC's overall power consumption will increase even when you are not playing games, since you will have another video card hooked up to your PC. The second problem is that the dedicated PhysX video card will only be used with games based on PhysX technology, so only a few games will use this additional video card.

I understand this. Later when I buy a good graphics card, I can use the old card as a dedicated PhysX processor.

Do I need a GTX650, for this? or some more low level card can do the trick?

Yeah obviously low cards as low as GT 430 are enough.
I suggested GTX 650 cause you had 10k budget..
for lower budget look for HD6670 DDR5 @5.5k
or for nvidia look for GT630 for about 4k

V

Can my motherboard do this?

A gt620 is also good for providing physx support.

A gt620 is also good for providing physx support.

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So now I will go with GT630 and later I will buy HD 7970. But will my motherboard support this?

Well I have no info about it..let me see what i can..

Extra card for Physx = Utter waste of money + Power.

harshilsharma63 said:
A gt620 is also good for providing physx support.

really?? with all the discussions about Physx in the forum, you still want to suggest it??

Chaitanya said:
For 10k get GTX650 afterwards get HD 7970 & use this for PhysX..

HD7750 Cf is very bad idea..
7870 is min fo a good CF( BTW currently AMD drivers are playing hell)

10K for Physx card?????????????????? :shock:

i should report your post just for that

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j/king

seriously, dont dish out such crappy sugesstions. read up a bit more.

Chaitanya said:
Yeah few guys in this forum have this multi GPU setup..
PhysX is a nVidia special effect thingy for physics of game although a few games use it
PhysX - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

i know only one guy on TDF who uses Physx Card. and he himself says its kinda useless. Cilus PM him.

PhysX looks good in couple of games like Batman Series, Metro series and Mafia etc. The thing is although plenty of games do have support for it, only handful of them have utilized it properly to enhance the visual quality. If you want a card now which can be used as a dedicated PhysX later card then opt for noting less than GT 630 or GT 430. 96 Stream Processors are recommended for it.

Now, officially PhysX is not supported even if you have a nVidia card when an AMD card is also present in the system as nVidia disables it through Driver level. So you need to Mod the nVidia driver and PhysX dll files using some Modder tool. This technique is called Hybrid PhysX and I am using it for three years now. For better understanding, have a look here: Hybrid PhysX mod v1.03 / v1.05ff

Now the thing is that currently nVidia has updated their PhysX developement SDK with support for advanced CPU instructions like SSE2 and SSE3 which was not present in early versions. As a result now CPU PhysX also run far better than it used to be 1 year ago.

Physx in PC environment is going to run through CUDA. Upcoming Witcher 3 promises the best implementation in its vast open world environment.
Check the following witcher 3 tech demo. Its impressive:

The new Physx water simulation that received a lot of accolades is used in Witcher 3 for the first time.

anirbandd said:
really?? with all the discussions about Physx in the forum, you still want to suggest it??

ONLY if OP has some extra 4k lying around

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Right now I dont want to buy an expensive card like HD 7950/7970. I will buy this later, if I am interested in games. For now I will try by playing few games and see. I have played Fifa 2006 and Prince of persia many years back and enjoyed it. I might have some liking for games.

I will go by GT 430/GT 630 now, if that is sufficient for normal PC usage and some games(may not be ultra settings). And later if needed, I can buy a new card. If I buy a new card, I don't want to put my old card in cupboard to gather dust. I was just asking if there is a way for the old card to still remain useful. If it can be used as PhysX processor, then why not?

vyamoham said:
Right now I dont want to buy an expensive card like HD 7950/7970. I will buy this later, if I am interested in games. For now I will try by playing few games and see. I have played Fifa 2006 and Prince of persia many years back and enjoyed it. I might have some liking for games.

I will go by GT 430/GT 630 now, if that is sufficient for normal PC usage and some games(may not be ultra settings). And later if needed, I can buy a new card. If I buy a new card, I don't want to put my old card in cupboard to gather dust. I was just asking if there is a way for the old card to still remain useful. If it can be used as PhysX processor, then why not?

That's a very good point. getting a GT 630 now will allow you to play games on medium-low settings and can also be used as a PhysX processor later. Better some use than nothing.

vyamoham said:
I will go by GT 430/GT 630 now, if that is sufficient for normal PC usage and some games(may not be ultra settings). And later if needed, I can buy a new card. If I buy a new card, I don't want to put my old card in cupboard to gather dust. I was just asking if there is a way for the old card to still remain useful. If it can be used as PhysX processor, then why not?

then OLX zindabad

sell it. if it still has warranty, you will get a good price.