want to know more about cpu coolers

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well i know the importance of cpu cooling but dnt really no how coolers help nd if i need one or not. i dnt overclock rather i dnt know how to overclock i would if knew how to ... so i m begining wid da first step dat is to cool my pc ...plz help me decide wat cooler to buy nd my budget is not more than 6K
plz help guys nd plz suggest some software dat will help me monitor my cpu temperature .. thnks a ton

first tell your config
then if you plan to overclock (oc)

for temp mngmnt
speed fan
hw monitor
real temp for amd
and lots more just google up
cpu z for computer specifications.

guru280789 said:
well i know the importance of cpu cooling but dnt really no how coolers help nd if i need one or not. i dnt overclock rather i dnt know how to overclock i would if knew how to ... so i m begining wid da first step dat is to cool my pc ...plz help me decide wat cooler to buy nd my budget is not more than 6K
plz help guys nd plz suggest some software dat will help me monitor my cpu temperature .. thnks a ton

See, if you are not overclocking the CPU to extreme points then stock HSF (heat sink fan) are fine for you. Also is is important to know what system configuration you have. Something similar to the signatures we carry on our posts here. Reason being many parameters come into play. Also the motherboard clearance (NB heat sinks, DIMM sockets) also are important. OEM HSFs can be big. For your budget you could probably get the best OEM HSF available.

For example see this:
Noctua NH-D14. This is around ~4.8K. And available in India. It is probably one of the best air coolers available. Something like this is procured if you are going for 35-40% system overclock. Extreme. Else there are HSFs available for lower range. Hyper 212 (Rs. ~2.8K) is good also.

guru280789 said:
well i know the importance of cpu cooling but dnt really no how coolers help nd if i need one or not. i dnt overclock rather i dnt know how to overclock i would if knew how to ... so i m begining wid da first step dat is to cool my pc ...plz help me decide wat cooler to buy nd my budget is not more than 6K
plz help guys nd plz suggest some software dat will help me monitor my cpu temperature .. thnks a ton

Man you have decided to cool yor proccy even before you overclock it.Its not like that.Most multicore CPU's get 15-20% OC in stock HSF.First you OC your proccy in stock and check temperatures in stress tests.If its in safe limits, you dont even need a cooler or you can get one to push your CPU little more.

My Athlon II X4 630 is running @ 3.3GHz in stock.It even touches 3.4GHz.But in stress tests its temperatures go higher with out crashes.So I am going to get a cooler to bring temperatures to the safe level and for a little more OC.

Hyper 212 Plus is available @ 1.8K + shipping from MEDIAHOME and PRIMEABGB

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k luks like i need a cooler only if i overclock...
can u tell me wat does overclocking mean m new to this so nd m ill informed... does overclocking include bios tweaking or does it include hardware tweaking as well....and wat r the advantages nd the side effects ...

Will a hyper TX3 do anything good for my proccy?
I have read somewhere that someone got 4GHz in Athlon II X4 630 with hyper TX3.I have read his posts and planned to get hyper TX3 also its much cheaper than hyper 212

Guys if going for OEM HSF, make sure it is bolt down. Nothing beats this. Push-pin is totally useless.

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@asigh:the 212+ is Rs1.8k in bangalore

Was talking about the Hyper 212 not (+) model, which is more expensive than the newer Hyper 212, being twin tower. Hyper 212+ is HDT.

Here is the URL

*www.primeabgb.com/index.php?page=s...keyword=hyper&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53

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I know that about the Hyper 212+, so what you trying to get at..?

i am saying its available @ Rs 1850 +shipping. You were saying its Rs 2.8K na ?

That is the Hyper 212. Not the Plus model. There is a difference between the two, as I mentioned initially.

but they wrote 212 plus in the site bro. as you said, its also a DHT.

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Okay, lets make it clear. There are two models of the Cooler Master Hyper 212 series.

Model 1: Hyper 212 : Cost 2.8K (or 2.4K, but for sure more expensive than the (+) model)
Model 2: Hyper 212+ : Cost 1.8K

Model 1 is the older model, more expensive than model 2, and is dual tower, and non HDT. THIS IS the model I was talking about being ~2.8K.
And it looks like this:
*img690.imageshack.us/img690/4672/coolermasterhyper212010.jpg

Model 2 is the newer model, and cheaper being single tower, but is HDT.
And it looks like this:
*img688.imageshack.us/img688/6394/coolermasterhyper212plu.jpg

The reason I do not recommend this cooler is because it has a flaw on the contact surface.
See this image.
*img39.imageshack.us/img39/50/closeupsurfaceexplained.jpg

The direct contact pipes leave air gaps. Of course they will need to be filled with TIM.

Ok got it now.thanks for the illustration bro. Hyper 212 also had heat pipes. If its not touching the CPU, how will it cool it.

Well the heat pipes run between the cpu cooler header, so they transmit heat from the cpu cooler contact surface. Most coolers are of this design, non HDT.

whats ur opinion on CM V8 , scythe mugen 2, xigmatek thors hammer ?

guru280789 said:
well i know the importance of cpu cooling but dnt really no how coolers help nd if i need one or not. i dnt overclock rather i dnt know how to overclock i would if knew how to ... so i m begining wid da first step dat is to cool my pc ...plz help me decide wat cooler to buy nd my budget is not more than 6K
plz help guys nd plz suggest some software dat will help me monitor my cpu temperature .. thnks a ton

Firstly, your processor already has a cooler, you will need to upgrade it only if you overclock. Bsic coolers blow air on the CPU so that cool fres air keeps coming in and absorbs the heat from the CPU. coolers with copper pipes absorb heat from the CPU and release it outside. So if you overclock within 10-15%, the cooler that you already have, which is referred to as stock HSF (Heat Sink Fan), will suffice.

pulsar_swift said:
whats ur opinion on CM V8 , scythe mugen 2, xigmatek thors hammer ?

CM V8 ---> huge.
scythe mugen 2 ---> nice one
xigmatek thors hammer ---> name says it all. & is also very expensive. & i read, don't ship with any fans.

i am fida over the looks of CM V8.

pulsar_swift said:
whats ur opinion on CM V8 , scythe mugen 2, xigmatek thors hammer ?

Well these are all good coolers in their class. All are bolt down, and only the Thor Hammer is HDT.

Though I would place them is performance (ascending):

CM V8 : Thors Hammer : Scythe Mugen

Again this is based on my reading about these. For sure CM V8 is the lowest cause its fan does not do the job, though the architecture, 4 layered towers is the best. Scythe Mugen has the best heat pipe system, where as Thor is HDT.

My choice is with the Noctua NH-D14, whose link I put on the first page of this thread. It is expensive, a bit shy of 5K. (Expect a review soon..hint hint).

Noctua NH-D14 > Thermalright Venomous X > Others

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My choice is with the Noctua NH-D14, whose link I put on the first page of this thread. It is expensive, a bit shy of 5K. (Expect a review soon..hint hint).

But its huge!

asigh said:
Well these are all good coolers in their class. All are bolt down, and only the Thor Hammer is HDT.

Though I would place them is performance (ascending):

CM V8 : Thors Hammer : Scythe Mugen

Again this is based on my reading about these. For sure CM V8 is the lowest cause its fan does not do the job, though the architecture, 4 layered towers is the best. Scythe Mugen has the best heat pipe system, where as Thor is HDT.

My choice is with the Noctua NH-D14, whose link I put on the first page of this thread. It is expensive, a bit shy of 5K. (Expect a review soon..hint hint).

Ahaa. So Asigh wil purchase it soon. I would love to read that review

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All ready have. Just need time to install it. Currently away from Delhi, am at my home town. Will put it in next weekend. Yes, it is huge. Will put up a good review.

already have? you never passed a single word about it. when you bought? or is it a gift from someone?

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Purchased on my own..no gift....! Did not pass any word, cause cannot install it as of now. Have to wait at least another 8-9 days. During week days, I go not get enough time. So one I install it, will put in a full review. I got it last Saturday from itwarez (Mumbai) -- online+courier.

asigh said:
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Purchased on my own..no gift....! Did not pass any word, cause cannot install it as of now. Have to wait at least another 8-9 days. During week days, I go not get enough time. So one I install it, will put in a full review. I got it last Saturday from itwarez (Mumbai) -- online+courier.

how much did it cost? still very nice buy, congrats.

asigh said:
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Purchased on my own..no gift....! Did not pass any word, cause cannot install it as of now. Have to wait at least another 8-9 days. During week days, I go not get enough time. So one I install it, will put in a full review. I got it last Saturday from itwarez (Mumbai) -- online+courier.

Why did you buy it from ITWAREZ ? It was not available from MEDIAHOME ? Or was it a special deal ? What was the final landed price ?

It was 4.8K+200 shipping. Got it in 48 hours post payment (EFT). Yes, was GO on TE by itwarez.

asigh said:
It was 4.8K+200 shipping. Got it in 48 hours post payment (EFT). Yes, was GO on TE by itwarez.

ok now waiting for review.

OFFTOPIC: whats exactly is a Group Order? plz shed little light on it. also theres some like IC, etc.

Not sure what IC is...! GO is for group order, where the dealer starts a deal, and waits till a GROUP of people have ordered, then he imports in the equipment. Usually done for stuff, which is difficult to access within India. Noctua, Scythe for example.

asigh said:
Not sure what IC is...! GO is for group order, where the dealer starts a deal, and waits till a GROUP of people have ordered, then he imports in the equipment. Usually done for stuff, which is difficult to access within India. Noctua, Scythe for example.

thanks for the info.